Trump to back ceding of Ukrainian territory to Russia as part of peace deal

[TimFitz]

You left out the obvious geography.
Everything happening in Ukraine in 1945 was happening on the opposite side of the planet from DC.
And before you spin the propaganda about US "good guys" fighting against godless communists, please remember the US was using former Nazis in its campaigns:

Operation Gladio - Wikipedia

Who do you think the Russians were using????????

 

[TimFitz]

What you are doing is dumb. You are harping on a minor win, to have an excuse to spam shit talk.


That is weakness and desperation on your part. Libtard.

You still can’t refute the facts. So name calling and made up little code words substitute for argument.

 

[sartre play]

Talked to a US service member who married a Ukrainian and his take was they are rather ambivalent about having their own country.

Maybe she is ambivalent because she Doesn't live there any more!

 

[schmidlap]

Yes it’s already established he’s been pocketing US dollars

You fail to document your lie.

Trump can tell him whatever he wants. He doesn’t have to listen. What Trump is telling him is what the people of Ukraine want according to Gallup polling

You fail to cite your supposed poll.

Again, you said, "that doesn’t give us a right to tell Ukraine what to do with their country... they don’t have to surrender land"

In opposition to most Americans and European democracies, Trump is telling them what they should do with their country:

Trump tells Zelensky to give up Crimea and agree to not join NATO​

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Russia is already the largest country in the world, now they want some land the size of NJ? what for? unless there is something good in the ground this makes no sense

Putin is steeped in 19th century Russian mythology.

Go down that rabbit hole, and you will see why he wants Ukraine.

 

[struth]

You fail to document your lie.

You fail to cite your supposed poll.

Again, you said, "that doesn’t give us a right to tell Ukraine what to do with their country... they don’t have to surrender land"

In opposition to most Americans and European democracies, Trump is telling them what they should do with their country:

Trump tells Zelensky to give up Crimea and agree to not join NATO​

I posted the link to the poll already once, see post 264.

Why would I document a lie?

Um, no, Trump is simply saying what the majority of Ukrainians want.

See the poll I cited.

 

[Lesh]

Yes it’s already established he’s been pocketing US dollars

Trump can tell him whatever he wants. He doesn’t have to listen. What Trump is telling him is what the people of Ukraine want according to Gallup polling

Prove it

 

[Delldude]

Trump endorsed the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Before or after Biden made his comments about a 'limited incursion'?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Before or after Biden made his comments about a 'limited incursion'?

Irrelevant.

 

[sartre play]

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Real reasons for War. Donetsk is rich in resources. And the other is control of the Black Sea.

Also grain, that feed many outside of UKRAINE.

 

[struth]

Prove it

I provided the link it 264

 

[whitehall]

Every country in the world has ceded territory in exchange for peace at one time or another. It happened in the U.S. when the defeated Confederate states ceded authority to the Union after the Civil War.. The Z man has to give up territory to end the conflict. Ukies are basically Russians anyway.

 

[Couchpotato]

You parroted discredited propaganda: "President Z isn't looking for a deal, he's looking for more money to line his pockets."

The Russian propaganda that the Ukrainian president's motive is personal profit has been thoroughly debunked repeatedly.

I disagree. In a democracy, democratic values and public sentiment should guide the nation's policies.

What Americans want for Ukraine is irrelevant. Our "democracy" doesnt cover their country.

No, no more than telling them that they should surrender land to an invader to appease him. We should support their decision, as do European democracies.

Fine.

Ukrainian Support for War Effort Collapses

New data from Ukraine show the public favors ending the war with Russia through negotiations, as support for fighting until victory has plummeted.

news.gallup.com

We should be supporting ending the war then, correct?

 

[kyzr]

I can only laugh at these ***** that still think that Russia-Putin has a positive relationship with President Trump
Those with a brain, always knew better -
Even those without a brain have now been shown that it was all a hoax perpetrated by Hilliary and the Obama Admin.
In the Obama administration's own documents. Yet they can't let go without their entire world crashing in upon them. It's sad, really.

Its just the way the democrat's propaganda machine, i.e. the MSM, pushes democrat lies.

 

[sartre play]

So why would North Korea send troops to UKRAINE?
Why do you think another Dictator would support Dictator PUTIN??

 

[kyzr]

So why would North Korea send troops to UKRAINE?
Why do you think another Dictator would support Dictator PUTIN??

I know, I know, I know...a cool white horse.

 

[Delldude]

Black tee shirt event.

Looks like he dressed for the occasion.....

 

[AlexanderPK]

President Z isn't looking for a deal, he's looking for more money to line his pockets.

The people of Ukraine are however.. Trump wants what they want.,..and end to the war and their neighbors in Europe to step up to the plate and help produce it. Half of Ukrainians Want Quick, Negotiated End to War

The only people that want the continued death is Putin, and his allies in the warmongering Demafacsit party

Yeah, Putin wants death and destruction while what the Banderites are busy with is incessantly pulling poor Ukrainian children out of their burning houses. Putin instead of flipping him off must have gotten a blister on his tongue explaining Trump why the whole thing got started in the first place. Isn't that a good will gesture? Hopefully some of that reasoning have gotten through to Trump this time, he is not like the brain dead Biden after all, and he'll start caring about his own country rather than wasting its money on ungrateful deadbeats.

 

[Lesh]

I provided the link it 264

You proved that Zelensky has been pocketing money?!

No. You have not

 

[struth]

You proved that Zelensky has been pocketing money?!

No. You have not

I’m not a prosecutor..what a weird statement

What I did show via Gallup is that the people of you Ukraine and Trump want the same thing