Trump to back ceding of Ukrainian territory to Russia as part of peace deal

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region

Donald Trump will back a plan to cede unoccupied Ukrainian territory to Russia to secure an end to the war between the two countries, it was reported on Saturday, after details of his post-summit call with European leaders leaked out.

Trump told European leaders that he believed a peace deal could be negotiated if the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, agreed to give up the Donbas region, which Russian invaders have not been able to seize in over three years of fighting, the New York Times reported, citing to two senior European officials.

Two sources with direct knowledge of the talks in Alaska told the Guardian that Putin demanded Ukraine withdraw from Donbas, which is made up of the Donestk and Luhansk regions, as a condition for ending the war, but offered Trump a freeze along the remaining frontline.”

Trump reportedly to back ceding of Ukrainian territory to Russia as part of peace deal

Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region

www.theguardian.com

That Trump would stab Zelenskyy in the back comes as no surprise, of course, and reward the war criminal Putin.

Trump is also messaging to his fellow despots and dictators that might makes right, that war criminals who lawlessly invade sovereign countries will likewise be rewarded for their criminal acts.

 

[egp320i]

Russia is already the largest country in the world, now they want some land the size of NJ? what for? unless there is something good in the ground this makes no sense

 

[yidnar]

“Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region

Donald Trump will back a plan to cede unoccupied Ukrainian territory to Russia to secure an end to the war between the two countries, it was reported on Saturday, after details of his post-summit call with European leaders leaked out.

Trump told European leaders that he believed a peace deal could be negotiated if the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, agreed to give up the Donbas region, which Russian invaders have not been able to seize in over three years of fighting, the New York Times reported, citing to two senior European officials.

Two sources with direct knowledge of the talks in Alaska told the Guardian that Putin demanded Ukraine withdraw from Donbas, which is made up of the Donestk and Luhansk regions, as a condition for ending the war, but offered Trump a freeze along the remaining frontline.”

Trump reportedly to back ceding of Ukrainian territory to Russia as part of peace deal

Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region

www.theguardian.com

That Trump would stab Zelenskyy in the back comes as no surprise, of course, and reward the war criminal Putin.

Trump is also messaging to his fellow despots and dictators that might makes right, that war criminals who lawlessly invade sovereign countries will likewise be rewarded for their criminal acts.

its up to Zelenskyy and Putin to iron out the details and end the death and destruction .. Trump is just a middle man bringing both sides together to talk .

 

[DGS49]

This is not actually President Trump's call, is it? Our Beloved President is in more or less constant contact with Zelenskyy, so whatever he said to Vlad must have some tenuous connection to what Z wants. The meeting in Washington on Monday might be elucidating.

Regardless of who is holding what cards, it is not good "deal making" to give your adversary everything he wants, then tout your achievement of making a deal. And that is what it looks like so far.

 

[Crepitus]

“Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region

Donald Trump will back a plan to cede unoccupied Ukrainian territory to Russia to secure an end to the war between the two countries, it was reported on Saturday, after details of his post-summit call with European leaders leaked out.

Trump told European leaders that he believed a peace deal could be negotiated if the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, agreed to give up the Donbas region, which Russian invaders have not been able to seize in over three years of fighting, the New York Times reported, citing to two senior European officials.

Two sources with direct knowledge of the talks in Alaska told the Guardian that Putin demanded Ukraine withdraw from Donbas, which is made up of the Donestk and Luhansk regions, as a condition for ending the war, but offered Trump a freeze along the remaining frontline.”

Trump reportedly to back ceding of Ukrainian territory to Russia as part of peace deal

Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region

www.theguardian.com

That Trump would stab Zelenskyy in the back comes as no surprise, of course, and reward the war criminal Putin.

Trump is also messaging to his fellow despots and dictators that might makes right, that war criminals who lawlessly invade sovereign countries will likewise be rewarded for their criminal acts.

And now he will claim the Ukrainians don't want peace and blame them for the war.

 

[Oddball]

Russia is already the largest country in the world, now they want some land the size of NJ? what for? unless there is something good in the ground this makes no sense

Russian speaking provinces, that ID with Russia more than Ukraine.

 

[Darkwind]

The ONLY way that Ukraine gets to keep the Donbas is if the United States mIlitary enters Ukraine and pushes the Russians out.


How about that C_Clayton_Jones

Is that what you want?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

"Leaked. That means democrats made it up and planted the fabricated story.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump is also messaging to his fellow despots and dictators that might makes right, that war criminals who lawlessly invade sovereign countries will likewise be rewarded for their criminal acts.

Trump the Surrender Monkey

Where is my Peace Prize?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The ONLY way that Ukraine gets to keep the Donbas is if the United States mIlitary enters Ukraine and pushes the Russians out.


How about that C_Clayton_Jones

Is that what you want?

There doesn't need to be a leak to know that Donbas and Crimea will go to Russia. Otherwise, it's another Bosnia.

 

[initforme]

There can eadily be a peace deal without anyone surrendering land.

 

[Woodznutz]

There was no red line drawn when Russia invaded Ukraine. Whatever the outcome now a red line will be drawn.

 

[yidnar]

This is not actually President Trump's call, is it? Our Beloved President is in more or less constant contact with Zelenskyy, so whatever he said to Vlad must have some tenuous connection to what Z wants. The meeting in Washington on Monday might be elucidating.

Regardless of who is holding what cards, it is not good "deal making" to give your adversary everything he wants, then tout your achievement of making a deal. And that is what it looks like so far.

we don't know what's gonna be agreed on .. Zelenskyy is coming to the WH next week .. Trump us getting input from both sides , and is probably attempting to help negotiate something in the middle where both sides get some things they want and some things they don't want .. is called negotiating .

 

[yidnar]

There can eadily be a peace deal without anyone surrendering land.

how so ?

 

[Mrkelly]

They leak what they want leaked

There will be peace when Putin gets what he wants

And tRump will be given the credit by his base

And by him of course

 

[Manonthestreet]

Talked to a US service member who married a Ukrainian and his take was they are rather ambivalent about having their own country.

 

[yidnar]

They leak what they want leaked

There will be peace when Putin gets what he wants

And tRump will be given the credit by his base

And by him of course

Dems are prepared to downplay a peace deal ..

 

[80zephyr]

Sorta funny. The left wants to stop the killing in Gaza, but really doesn't mind too much about the
killing in the Ukraine.

 

[petro]

Trump the Surrender Monkey

Where is my Peace Prize?

What surrender?
We aren't at war here.

 

[georgephillip]

That Trump would stab Zelenskyy in the back comes as no surprise, of course, and reward the war criminal Putin.

Trump is also messaging to his fellow despots and dictators that might makes right, that war criminals who lawlessly invade sovereign countries will likewise be rewarded for their criminal acts.

You're under the delusion Putin's SMO was unprovoked.
It wasn't.

https://www.cato.org/commentary/us-nato-helped-trigger-ukraine-war-its-not-siding-putin-admit-it