Trump supports immigration visas backed by Musk: ‘I have many H-1B visas on my properties’

[buttercup]

I have a problem with ILLEGALS.

NOT LEGALS.

Not a dang issue

Yes, of course. That's not the topic here.

 

[eagle1462010]

Yes, of course. That's not the topic here.

Actually it is.

 

[buttercup]

Actually it is.

No, this is not about illegal immigration. It's about H-1B visas. I'm sorry, but you need to catch up on what the debate is, I don't have time right now to walk you through this.

 

[eagle1462010]

No, this is not about illegal immigration. It's about H-1B visas. I'm sorry, but you need to catch up on what the argument is, I don't have time right now to walk you through this.

Its a TDS thread.

Trump has always agreed to LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

This is NOTHING NEW

 

[buttercup]

Its a TDS thread.

Trump has always agreed to LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

This is NOTHING NEW

That's not the point of contention. You need to look into H-1B visas more, to begin to understand why people are saying that Elon's comments and attitude, and Trump's agreement with it is not "America first." Again, the program is being abused, at the expense of Americans.

 

[eagle1462010]

That's not the point of contention. You need to look into H-1B visas more, to begin to understand why people are saying that Elon's comments and attitude, and Trump's agreement with it is not "America first." Again, the program is being abused, at the expense of Americans.

Again. It is a LEGAL PROGRAM.

The OP only brings it up to Attack Trump.

He LIVES FOR IT.

ARE H1B VISAS LIMITED?

 

[buttercup]

Again. It is a LEGAL PROGRAM.

The OP only brings it up to Attack Trump.

He LIVES FOR IT.

ARE H1B VISAS LIMITED?

I'm sorry, but this is pointless. You are not listening, at all.

Also, it's a logical fallacy to dismiss a claim based on who brings it up. I'm pretty sure that's called the Genetic fallacy. But continue to stick your fingers in your ears and say "la la la" to things you don't want to hear, I'm sure that will get you far.

 

[WelfareQueen]

This shouldn't surprise anyone who paid attention to the election. Trump said he wanted to give a green card to every foreign college student who graduated from an American university. The right being up in arms about Elon's and Vivek's statements only indicates how much they were distracted by the pomp and fanfare and how little they were actually listening.

President-elect Trump told The Post Saturday he supports immigration visas for highly skilled workers, appearing to side with Elon Musk in the roiling intra-MAGA debate on the issue.

“I’ve always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas. That’s why we have them,” Trump said by phone, referring to the H-1B program, which permits companies to hire foreign workers in specialty occupations.

“I have many H-1B visas on my properties. I’ve been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It’s a great program,” added Trump, who restricted access to foreign worker visas in his first administration and has been critical of the program in the past.

Exclusive | Trump supports immigration visas backed by Musk: ‘I have many H-1B visas on my properties’

“I’ve always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas. That’s why we have them,” Trump said referring to the H-1B program.

nypost.com

The right is not "up in arms" about H-1 B visas. The story (like so many), is a legacy media fiction.

Legal immigration is fine. Allowing skilled workers in who are fully vetted on legal visas is fine.


Letting millions of illegal alien pedophiles, rapists, and murderers in with zero vetting is not fine. Any simpleton can understand this. But the media spins lies, that is what they do. And the stupid believe them, or pretend to believe them if it suits their purposes.

 

[eagle1462010]

I'm sorry, but this is pointless. You are not listening, at all.

Also, it's a logical fallacy to dismiss a claim based on who brings it up. I'm pretty sure that's called the Genetic fallacy. But continue to stick your fingers in your ears and say "la la la" to things you don't want to hear, I'm sure that will get you far.

65000 a year. Have a nice day.

 

[SeaMajor7]

This shouldn't surprise anyone who paid attention to the election. Trump said he wanted to give a green card to every foreign college student who graduated from an American university. The right being up in arms about Elon's and Vivek's statements only indicates how much they were distracted by the pomp and fanfare and how little they were actually listening.

President-elect Trump told The Post Saturday he supports immigration visas for highly skilled workers, appearing to side with Elon Musk in the roiling intra-MAGA debate on the issue.

“I’ve always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas. That’s why we have them,” Trump said by phone, referring to the H-1B program, which permits companies to hire foreign workers in specialty occupations.

“I have many H-1B visas on my properties. I’ve been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It’s a great program,” added Trump, who restricted access to foreign worker visas in his first administration and has been critical of the program in the past.

Exclusive | Trump supports immigration visas backed by Musk: ‘I have many H-1B visas on my properties’

“I’ve always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas. That’s why we have them,” Trump said referring to the H-1B program.

nypost.com

The Narrative.

 

[buttercup]

65000 a year. Have a nice day.

TBH I was getting tired of this topic, so I wasn't going to say anything further. But I noticed something that I haven't seen anyone bring up.

I want to be fair about this...So maybe there's a logical explanation for what appears to be an easily demonstrable lie?

Trump in a recent interview with the NY Post:

“I’ve always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas. That’s why we have them"

"I’ve been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It’s a great program,” added Trump​

Trump in 2016:

"We shouldn't have it. Very, very bad for workers." "It's very bad for business.... It's very bad for our workers. And it's unfair for our workers, and we should end it."​

 

[eagle1462010]

TBH I was getting tired of this topic, so I wasn't going to say anything further. But I noticed something that I haven't seen anyone bring up.

I want to be fair about this...So maybe there's a logical explanation for what appears to be an easily demonstrable lie?

Trump in a recent interview with the NY Post:

“I’ve always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas. That’s why we have them"​

​

"I’ve been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It’s a great program,” added Trump​

Trump in 2016:

"We shouldn't have it. Very, very bad for workers." "It's very bad for business.... It's very bad for our workers. And it's unfair for our workers, and we should end it."​

Not the 1st time he has flip flopped.

Same as most politicians.

Back in Reagan times same assholes still in office were Gonna build a fence.

Passed the requirement of the I-9 form.

Same one they need fake ids for today, and a possible answer to end the illegal BS.

But not until career politicians are gone and the fed limited.

 

[buttercup]

Not the 1st time he has flip flopped.

Same as most politicians.

Back in Reagan times same assholes still in office were Gonna build a fence.

Passed the requirement of the I-9 form.

Same one they need fake ids for today, and a possible answer to end the illegal BS.

But not until career politicians are gone and the fed limited.

I agree. But it wasn't the flip-flop that I was commenting on. It was this statement: "I’ve always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas."

I mean, unless there's a valid explanation for that, it's a blatant lie.

Stuff like that almost makes me wonder if people are being tested...to see how much they will take. Or maybe not. Maybe he just forgot that he's on the record from 2016 saying that it was very bad for workers and it should end?

 

[eagle1462010]

I agree. But it wasn't the flip-flop that I was commenting on. It was this statement: "I’ve always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas."

I mean, unless there's a valid explanation for that, it's a blatant lie.

Stuff like that almost makes me wonder if people are being tested...to see how much they will take. Or maybe not. Maybe he just forgot that he's on the record from 2016 saying that it was very bad for workers and it should end?

And during his first term disapprovals increased. Then before he got out he waived them in NY allowing a bunch through.

So id say by his actions at the end of his 1st term he is for them.

Flip flopped yes.

Does it matter to me No.

I want the larger flood of ILLEGALS DEALT WITH.

 

[eagle1462010]

The H-1B Visa Program and Its Impact on the U.S. Economy.

It is capped at 65000.

Would need the 1990 law changed to increase it.

So this whole thread is MEANINGLESS

 

[buttercup]

And during his first term disapprovals increased. Then before he got out he waived them in NY allowing a bunch through.

So id say by his actions at the end of his 1st term he is for them.

Flip flopped yes.

Does it matter to me No.

I want the larger flood of ILLEGALS DEALT WITH.

You ignored my point. It wasn't the flip-flop that I was commenting on. It was the blatant lie, especially when it was so easy to prove, which is very odd to me. (Again, unless there's some explanation for that?) But I'm not going to keep repeating myself with you, you keep deflecting.

 

[Mac1958]

“I’ve always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas. That’s why we have them,” Trump said

 

[scruffy]

They don't teach that crap in most schools. just libera dominated school in blue cities or blue states. You won't find that crap in most of flyover country.

Horseshit.

 

[scruffy]

Again. It is a LEGAL PROGRAM.

The OP only brings it up to Attack Trump.

He LIVES FOR IT.

ARE H1B VISAS LIMITED?

At this moment there are about 600,000 H1B workers in America.

Obviously, the cap is meaningless. H1B is being abused and no one is stopping it.

The same is true for h2b. The cap is legally 66,000 but at this moment the actual number is about 250,000.

 

[eagle1462010]

At this moment there are about 600,000 H1B workers in America.

Obviously, the cap is meaningless. H1B is being abused and no one is stopping it.

The same is true for h2b. The cap is legally 66,000 but at this moment the actual number is about 250,000.

That number is new applicants per year.

H1Bs can last up to 6 years