Trump says Robert E Lee would have won in Afghanistan

[Meathead]

That's nice. That doesn't change that they were traitors to the United States back in the 1860s.

Lee was an officer and a gentleman, far more so than Grant. Lee almost won an asymmetrical war between an industrial north and an agrarian south. He was, by all accounts a great general and man. Cancel culture cannot change that.

 

[Lastamender]

General Patton would have prevented genocide in Bosnia!

this is fun!

The point is anyone would have done better than Biden (Obama). Period.

 

[Lastamender]

Take all the Lees and put 'em in a Lee Museum
And charge the rednecks a dollar and a half just to see 'em!

From the same song. "you don't know what you got till its gone." I am talking about freedom.

 

[edthecynic]

He was, by all accounts a great general and man

BULLSHIT!
Lee was a disgusting POS as a man, and a LOSER as a general.

Soldiers under Lee’s command at the Battle of the Crater in 1864 massacred black Union soldiers who tried to surrender. Then, in a spectacle hatched by Lee’s senior corps commander, A. P. Hill, the Confederates paraded the Union survivors through the streets of Petersburg to the slurs and jeers of the southern crowd. Lee never discouraged such behavior. As the historian Richard Slotkin wrote in No Quarter: The Battle of the Crater, “his silence was permissive.”

As the historian James McPherson recounts in Battle Cry of Freedom, in October of that same year, Lee proposed an exchange of prisoners with the Union general Ulysses S. Grant. “Grant agreed, on condition that black soldiers be exchanged ‘the same as white soldiers.’” Lee’s response was that “negroes belonging to our citizens are not considered subjects of exchange and were not included in my proposition.” Because slavery was the cause for which Lee fought, he could hardly be expected to easily concede, even at the cost of the freedom of his own men, that black people could be treated as soldiers and not things. Grant refused the offer, telling Lee that “government is bound to secure to all persons received into her armies the rights due to soldiers.” Despite its desperate need for soldiers, the Confederacy did not relent from this position until a few months before Lee’s surrender.
Robert E. Lee’s greatness as a military leader is only real to those who appreciate that he allowed Black people to be paraded around for sport, denied their surrender, and was a vicious slave owner who beat his slaves, divided families, and led troops into worthless battles.

 

[Lastamender]

It is still history. You take that away we have nothing to show us how we progressed under our system of government. Destroying history is a big part of any Communist revolution.

 

[initforme]

Lee couldn't defeat a rag tag army the Taliban would make easy fodder of him.

 

[DrLove]

From the same song. "you don't know what you got till its gone." I am talking about freedom.

I'm giving you 3 stars on that one for knowing it was a Joni Mitchell tune.
But no, that wasn't what she was talking about.

 

[Alan Stallion]

It is still history. You take that away we have nothing to show us how we progressed under our system of government. Destroying history is a big part of any Communist revolution.

History can be told in history book and documentaries.

You put up a statue of somebody, you give him stature, a seal of approval. You make him an undeserved idol. You create idolatry.

Hitler, Mao, Lenin, Stalin, etc. are all a part of history. None of those deserve to be lifted up as an idol with the presence of a statue.

Leave history to historical documents.

 

[whitehall]

Trump never said that but apparently "meathead" Rob Reiner said he did. Shouldn't Twitter cancel Reiner's account because of "misinformation"?

 

[Lastamender]

History can be told in history book and documentaries.

You put up a statue of somebody, you give him stature, a seal of approval. You make him an undeserved idol. You create idolatry.

Hitler, Mao, Lenin, Stalin, etc. are all a part of history. None of those deserve to be lifted up as an idol with the presence of a statue.

Leave history to historical documents.

Where were you when a drug addict's statue was put up in a major city and murals of him in many? Those people are history. History is good and bad, we need to know about it.

 

[Lastamender]

I'm giving you 3 stars on that one for knowing it was a Joni Mitchell tune.
But no, that wasn't what she was talking about.

She was talking about losing something you have which could be a number of things. Song writing is poetry and it has many meanings, not just the one that is convenient to you.

 

[DrLove]

She was talking about losing something you have which could be a number of things. Song writing is poetry and it has many meanings, not just the one that is convenient to you.

I'll bet that beotch voted for TRUMP!

 

[Alan Stallion]

Where were you when a drug addict's statue was put up in a major city and murals of him in many? Those people are history. History is good and bad, we need to know about it.

George Floyd is also undeserving of idolatry.
I was glad to see one of those idolatrous murals destroyed by lightning strike.
To hell with idolatry.
Leave history to historical documents.

 

[whitehall]

Would you rather talk about what Canadian born 78 year old Joni Mitchell thought or would you rather talk about misinformation by Hollywood meatheads or is it all the same? Either way the post doesn't belong in the history forum. Maybe reviews or the rubber room.

 

[Magnus]

It is still history. You take that away we have nothing to show us how we progressed under our system of government. Destroying history is a big part of any Communist revolution.

Really, you need a statue to learn about history? Ever heard of books? No wonder your hero is Rump

That reminds me, how's the audit going?

 

[Lastamender]

Really, you need a statue to learn about history? Ever heard of books? No wonder your hero is Rump

That reminds me, how's the audit going?

At least I can learn. Where does that leave you?

 

[Magnus]

At least I can learn. Where does that leave you?

If you could learn, you wouldn't be sobbing about a statue of a racist being removed. Nope, you are still a moron.

Btw, how's the audit going? Rump coming back to power anytime soon?

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Lee lost in the US… so now he’d win in Afghanistan? News to him.

The death of Stonewall Jackson is what sunk the South chances of staying independent…

Lee couldn’t win without Stonewall, so the fact is Lee would have never won in Afghanistan either…

 

[surada]

Poor Trumpy Bear - Working overtime to shore up that 15%-er Deplorable Redneck contingency.

"Just watched as a massive crane took down the magnificent and very famous statue of ‘Robert E. Lee On His Horse’ in Richmond, Virginia," Trump wrote. "It has long been recognized as a beautiful piece of bronze sculpture. To add insult to injury, those who support this ‘taking’ now plan to cut it into three pieces, and throw this work of art into storage prior to its complete desecration."

"Robert E. Lee is considered by many Generals to be the greatest strategist of them all," Trump continued. "President Lincoln wanted him to command the North, in which case the war would have been over in one day. Robert E. Lee chose the other side because of his great love of Virginia, and except for Gettysburg, would have won the war. He should be remembered perhaps as the greatest unifying force after the war was over, ardent in his resolve to bring the North and South together through many means of reconciliation and imploring his soldiers to do their duty in becoming good citizens of this Country."

Trump went on to claim Lee was more skilled than current U.S. generals, writing, "Our culture is being destroyed and our history and heritage, both good and bad, are being extinguished by the Radical Left, and we can't let that happen! If only we had Robert E. Lee to command our troops in Afghanistan, that disaster would have ended in a complete and total victory many years ago. What an embarrassment we are suffering because we don't have the genius of a Robert E. Lee!"

When Trump needs a headline, he just shoots off his mouth and he knows his groupies will lap it up .

 

[Correll]

When Trump needs a headline, he just shoots off his mouth and he knows his groupies will lap it up .

Trump's opinion on how Gen Lee could do in Afghanistan means nothing to me. It seems to be you leftards that are caring about it.