Trump saves 1,000 jobs over two weeks, miracle, Obama creates 7,200 a day, he's a failure

[eddiew37]

I think you yourself said it "THE ECONOMY" produced the jobs. Obama did jack shit.

yes Barry is a typical anti business socialist so naturally discouraged job creation.

Really, then why is unemployment so low? Coincidence?

Simple question for you, R-Derp...name the Obama policy that created jobs! Since you're here claiming that he's responsible for job creation then you should have no problem at all pointing out his economic policies that made that happen. Right?

Nitwit It happened on OBAMAS WATCH Want to give GWB credit ?? DOW goes up 13000 points under Obama repubs bash him Goes up 1000 since election Repubs kiss trump ass Repubs are sick in the head

Did the stock market go up under Barack Obama's watch because of his economic policies...or because the Fed kept interest rates at nearly zero for eight straight years...allowing the wealthy in America to reap huge profits in a stock market driven by investment of essentially free money if you had the credit to play the game? You folks on the left who constantly whine about "income inequality" yet tout the surging stock market under Obama as a success of his Administration amuse me. The rich have gotten far richer under Barry than they have under Republican Presidents because his only remedy to a sluggish economy was to pump up the stock market bubble.

Old if you want to nit pick about why it happened who was really responsible we could go back in time and find NO president was responsible EVEN CARTER BUT the way it goes is whomever is in office gets the credit or blame and history will imo show that

 

[Oldstyle]

yes Barry is a typical anti business socialist so naturally discouraged job creation.

Really, then why is unemployment so low? Coincidence?

Simple question for you, R-Derp...name the Obama policy that created jobs! Since you're here claiming that he's responsible for job creation then you should have no problem at all pointing out his economic policies that made that happen. Right?

Nitwit It happened on OBAMAS WATCH Want to give GWB credit ?? DOW goes up 13000 points under Obama repubs bash him Goes up 1000 since election Repubs kiss trump ass Repubs are sick in the head

Hmmm, it suddenly shoots up after Trump's win but obama did it. I don't get it.

Naaa it was trump and his policies that really did it imo but from 7000 to 19000 you bashed obama Who gets credit for that? In Republican world it'd be GWB

Where did I "bash" Obama for the stock market surge? What I did was point out that surge had little to do with Obama policy and in many ways happened BECAUSE Obama wasn't successful at growing the economy! Giving rich people interest free money to invest in a surging stock market didn't help blue collar workers much did it? So why is it you on the left are somehow shocked that the Rust Belt union vote didn't turn out for another Democrat after eight years of watching other people get rich while they got poorer?

 

[Oldstyle]

yes Barry is a typical anti business socialist so naturally discouraged job creation.

Really, then why is unemployment so low? Coincidence?

Simple question for you, R-Derp...name the Obama policy that created jobs! Since you're here claiming that he's responsible for job creation then you should have no problem at all pointing out his economic policies that made that happen. Right?

Nitwit It happened on OBAMAS WATCH Want to give GWB credit ?? DOW goes up 13000 points under Obama repubs bash him Goes up 1000 since election Repubs kiss trump ass Repubs are sick in the head

Did the stock market go up under Barack Obama's watch because of his economic policies...or because the Fed kept interest rates at nearly zero for eight straight years...allowing the wealthy in America to reap huge profits in a stock market driven by investment of essentially free money if you had the credit to play the game? You folks on the left who constantly whine about "income inequality" yet tout the surging stock market under Obama as a success of his Administration amuse me. The rich have gotten far richer under Barry than they have under Republican Presidents because his only remedy to a sluggish economy was to pump up the stock market bubble.

Old if you want to nit pick about why it happened who was really responsible we could go back in time and find NO president was responsible EVEN CARTER BUT the way it goes is whomever is in office gets the credit or blame and history will imo show that

So you really don't have any examples of Obama economic policies that worked...but you're giving him credit because his ass was sitting in a chair behind a desk in the Oval Office?

 

[eddiew37]

Really, then why is unemployment so low? Coincidence?

Simple question for you, R-Derp...name the Obama policy that created jobs! Since you're here claiming that he's responsible for job creation then you should have no problem at all pointing out his economic policies that made that happen. Right?

Nitwit It happened on OBAMAS WATCH Want to give GWB credit ?? DOW goes up 13000 points under Obama repubs bash him Goes up 1000 since election Repubs kiss trump ass Repubs are sick in the head

Hmmm, it suddenly shoots up after Trump's win but obama did it. I don't get it.

Naaa it was trump and his policies that really did it imo but from 7000 to 19000 you bashed obama Who gets credit for that? In Republican world it'd be GWB

Where did I "bash" Obama for the stock market surge? What I did was point out that surge had little to do with Obama policy and in many ways happened BECAUSE Obama wasn't successful at growing the economy! Giving rich people interest free money to invest in a surging stock market didn't help blue collar workers much did it? So why is it you on the left are somehow shocked that the Rust Belt union vote didn't turn out for another Democrat after eight years of watching other people get rich while they got poorer?

Gave the president credit?? seems like repubs are falling all over the place giving trump credit

 

[eddiew37]

blue collar guys lost jobs because wages in mexico china etc etc were much less

 

[eddiew37]

And as far as help Didn't any republicans have 401k's or IRA's and benefited from the rising market

 

[Iceweasel]

And as far as help Didn't any republicans have 401k's or IRA's and benefited from the rising market

Yeah if they didn't have to live off of it prematurely because the job market still sucks no matter how great the dishonest left proclaims.

 

[depotoo]

I'll bet after election day... companies are enthusiastic about the future with Trumps win. Amazing what just a president-elect can accomplish, isn't it, if it gives people real hope for change.

You are comparing a President to someone who hasn't even been inaugurated yet? That spells DESPERATION
Buy yea, I see what you are saying. I personally LOVE obamas retail economy. Who doesn't want a career at Old Navy or Burger King?

considering who the OP is you can bank on it is he says 216,000 jobs were produced,its a lie.

Job creation in November was a lot more than anyone expected

U.S. private sector adds 216,000 jobs in November: ADP

Apology accepted.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'll bet after election day... companies are enthusiastic about the future with Trumps win. Amazing what just a president-elect can accomplish, isn't it, if it gives people real hope for change.

You are comparing a President to someone who hasn't even been inaugurated yet? That spells DESPERATION
Buy yea, I see what you are saying. I personally LOVE obamas retail economy. Who doesn't want a career at Old Navy or Burger King?

considering who the OP is you can bank on it is he says 216,000 jobs were produced,its a lie.

Job creation in November was a lot more than anyone expected

U.S. private sector adds 216,000 jobs in November: ADP

Apology accepted.

In the news yesterday.....

1. "Dollar Climbs to Strongest Since 2003 on Fed Path; Bonds Drop"
Dollar Climbs to Strongest Since 2003 on Fed Path; Bonds Drop



2. "Measures of Economic Optimism Are Shooting Up All Over the Place After Trump's Win"
Measures of Economic Optimism Are Shooting Up All Over the Place After Trump's Win



3. "Homebuilder sentiment spikes 7 points, Trump has them feeling fantastic"
Trump has homebuilders feeling fantastic: Here's why

 

[rdean]

Part of Trump's plan is to lower Corporate Tax from 35% to 15%.

So last year, United Technologies, the owner of Carrier, paid 9%. The previous 4 years they paid 10%.

WTF?

Yeah, and as I posted in another thread... most of their income is kept overseas and they use a Federal law to keep from paying taxes indefinitely on it...

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-carrier-jobs-913348bbf46#.wfdof3flv

Twice before companies were given a tax holiday by Republicans hoping they would bring the money back and use it to invest in American companies.
Instead, it went into investors accounts and just sat there. No new jobs were created. We have been duped by that twice. I guess third time is the charm.

What is needed is some new creativity. To get people with imagination into positions. Not just money movers and money counters.

Twice before companies were given a tax holiday by Republicans hoping they would bring the money back and use it to invest in American companies.
Instead, it went into investors accounts and just sat there.

Companies brought money back, paid the tax on it and gave it to their shareholders.

I can see why that makes you sad.

No new jobs were created.

People had more money but no jobs were created?
You should retake that Econ 101 class you failed.

Share holders had more money which they banked. No jobs were created.

Share holders had more money which they banked.

Every shareholder banked every dollar they received?
Well at least they paid taxes on it first.

No jobs were created.

People putting more money in the bank doesn't create jobs?
What about when people took that money and repaid debt?

Maybe their own personal debt. But when Republicans, using reconciliation, passed the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich, it took away an enormous source of revenue. Not just during Bush's term, but also through Obama's.
Then the 43,000 factories that left under Bush and suddenly, the US has enormous debt. And very limited revenue streams.
Of course, add in the cost of Iraq and the trillions spent.
And Republicans blame every bit of it on Obama.

 

[rdean]

I think you yourself said it "THE ECONOMY" produced the jobs. Obama did jack shit.

yes Barry is a typical anti business socialist so naturally discouraged job creation.

Really, then why is unemployment so low? Coincidence?

Simple question for you, R-Derp...name the Obama policy that created jobs! Since you're here claiming that he's responsible for job creation then you should have no problem at all pointing out his economic policies that made that happen. Right?

How good were the 10.9 million jobs under Obama?

One thing Obama never gets credit for are all his wins for US industries at the WTO:

FACT SHEET: The Obama Administration’s Unprecedented Trade Enforcement Record | United States Trade Representative

WTO hands Obama victory in U.S.-China steel case

http://www.newsmax.com/t/finance/article/379793
WTO Rules US Tariffs on Chinese Tire Imports Legal

That's just the beginning.

And remember, Republicans were trying to destroy Obama every step of the way. Even you can't deny that.

LOL...you didn't really read any of those...did you, Derp? Winning a case against the Chinese for a 250 million dollar niche of the steel industry while ignoring a 15 BILLION dollar imbalance in car manufacturing counts as an Obama "win" in your eyes? Creating low paying "service" jobs counts as an Obama "win" in your eyes? Here's a hint for you, little buddy...the reason that blue collar union members voted against a Democrat in this race isn't because Barack Obama created so many jobs for them...it's because he DIDN'T and hid behind misleading statistics pretending that he'd done something good for the economy. That huge loss of State and local government jobs? That happened because Barry couldn't grow the economy enough to generate the tax revenues at the local level to retain government workers! Did we see a reduction of Federal workers during the same time of reduced revenues? No, because unlike State and local government that have to balance their budgets...the Federal Government can just keep going further in debt...something that Barack Obama did more than all the other Presidents before him combined!

As for the GOP trying to "destroy" Barack Obama? The people most responsible for the "destruction" of the Democratic Party are not Republicans...it's the Progressive Wing of the Democratic Party itself who passed things like that "Affordable Care Act" and lied to the American people about how it would work and what it would cost.

If you don't add links, how can I know if you are lying or not?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yeah, and as I posted in another thread... most of their income is kept overseas and they use a Federal law to keep from paying taxes indefinitely on it...

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-carrier-jobs-913348bbf46#.wfdof3flv

Twice before companies were given a tax holiday by Republicans hoping they would bring the money back and use it to invest in American companies.
Instead, it went into investors accounts and just sat there. No new jobs were created. We have been duped by that twice. I guess third time is the charm.

What is needed is some new creativity. To get people with imagination into positions. Not just money movers and money counters.

Twice before companies were given a tax holiday by Republicans hoping they would bring the money back and use it to invest in American companies.
Instead, it went into investors accounts and just sat there.

Companies brought money back, paid the tax on it and gave it to their shareholders.

I can see why that makes you sad.

No new jobs were created.

People had more money but no jobs were created?
You should retake that Econ 101 class you failed.

Share holders had more money which they banked. No jobs were created.

Share holders had more money which they banked.

Every shareholder banked every dollar they received?
Well at least they paid taxes on it first.

No jobs were created.

People putting more money in the bank doesn't create jobs?
What about when people took that money and repaid debt?

Maybe their own personal debt. But when Republicans, using reconciliation, passed the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich, it took away an enormous source of revenue. Not just during Bush's term, but also through Obama's.
Then the 43,000 factories that left under Bush and suddenly, the US has enormous debt. And very limited revenue streams.
Of course, add in the cost of Iraq and the trillions spent.
And Republicans blame every bit of it on Obama.

But when Republicans, using reconciliation, passed the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich

You misspelled, Bush Tax Cuts for everyone.

but also through Obama's.

Obama's tax cuts took away an enormous source of revenue?

the US has enormous debt. And very limited revenue streams.

Record tax revenues.

U.S. tax revenues at record high. Who's paying?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

And Republicans blame every bit of it (debt) on Obama.

because Republicans have long wanted to make debt illegal and Democrats have killed every effort!! If Newt had gotten his way debt would be 0 now not $20 trillion.

 

[FA_Q2]

I think you yourself said it "THE ECONOMY" produced the jobs. Obama did jack shit.

yes Barry is a typical anti business socialist so naturally discouraged job creation.

Really, then why is unemployment so low? Coincidence?

Simple question for you, R-Derp...name the Obama policy that created jobs! Since you're here claiming that he's responsible for job creation then you should have no problem at all pointing out his economic policies that made that happen. Right?

Nitwit It happened on OBAMAS WATCH Want to give GWB credit ?? DOW goes up 13000 points under Obama repubs bash him Goes up 1000 since election Repubs kiss trump ass Repubs are sick in the head

Did the stock market go up under Barack Obama's watch because of his economic policies...or because the Fed kept interest rates at nearly zero for eight straight years...allowing the wealthy in America to reap huge profits in a stock market driven by investment of essentially free money if you had the credit to play the game? You folks on the left who constantly whine about "income inequality" yet tout the surging stock market under Obama as a success of his Administration amuse me. The rich have gotten far richer under Barry than they have under Republican Presidents because his only remedy to a sluggish economy was to pump up the stock market bubble.

This.

It amazes me that the left can simultaneously complain about the rich and call record stock prices under the current fed policy a huge success. Pick one.

 

[rdean]

Twice before companies were given a tax holiday by Republicans hoping they would bring the money back and use it to invest in American companies.
Instead, it went into investors accounts and just sat there. No new jobs were created. We have been duped by that twice. I guess third time is the charm.

What is needed is some new creativity. To get people with imagination into positions. Not just money movers and money counters.

Twice before companies were given a tax holiday by Republicans hoping they would bring the money back and use it to invest in American companies.
Instead, it went into investors accounts and just sat there.

Companies brought money back, paid the tax on it and gave it to their shareholders.

I can see why that makes you sad.

No new jobs were created.

People had more money but no jobs were created?
You should retake that Econ 101 class you failed.

Share holders had more money which they banked. No jobs were created.

Share holders had more money which they banked.

Every shareholder banked every dollar they received?
Well at least they paid taxes on it first.

No jobs were created.

People putting more money in the bank doesn't create jobs?
What about when people took that money and repaid debt?

Maybe their own personal debt. But when Republicans, using reconciliation, passed the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich, it took away an enormous source of revenue. Not just during Bush's term, but also through Obama's.
Then the 43,000 factories that left under Bush and suddenly, the US has enormous debt. And very limited revenue streams.
Of course, add in the cost of Iraq and the trillions spent.
And Republicans blame every bit of it on Obama.

But when Republicans, using reconciliation, passed the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich

You misspelled, Bush Tax Cuts for everyone.

but also through Obama's.

Obama's tax cuts took away an enormous source of revenue?

the US has enormous debt. And very limited revenue streams.

Record tax revenues.

U.S. tax revenues at record high. Who's paying?

Imagine if Republicans had not fucked with the economy.

Obama wouldn't be partially responsible without the GOP.

Unemployment benefits: not until Bush tax cuts pass, Senate GOP says

Blackmail made Obama responsible?

 

[rdean]

And Republicans blame every bit of it (debt) on Obama.

because Republicans have long wanted to make debt illegal and Democrats have killed every effort!! If Newt had gotten his way debt would be 0 now not $20 trillion.

If Clinton had gotten his way, we would have a 5 trillion surplus.

But Bush and the GOP got in the way.

That's just recent history. Millions of jobs moved overseas and the terrible deficit creating Bush tax cuts.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Twice before companies were given a tax holiday by Republicans hoping they would bring the money back and use it to invest in American companies.
Instead, it went into investors accounts and just sat there.

Companies brought money back, paid the tax on it and gave it to their shareholders.

I can see why that makes you sad.

No new jobs were created.

People had more money but no jobs were created?
You should retake that Econ 101 class you failed.

Share holders had more money which they banked. No jobs were created.

Share holders had more money which they banked.

Every shareholder banked every dollar they received?
Well at least they paid taxes on it first.

No jobs were created.

People putting more money in the bank doesn't create jobs?
What about when people took that money and repaid debt?

Maybe their own personal debt. But when Republicans, using reconciliation, passed the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich, it took away an enormous source of revenue. Not just during Bush's term, but also through Obama's.
Then the 43,000 factories that left under Bush and suddenly, the US has enormous debt. And very limited revenue streams.
Of course, add in the cost of Iraq and the trillions spent.
And Republicans blame every bit of it on Obama.

But when Republicans, using reconciliation, passed the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich

You misspelled, Bush Tax Cuts for everyone.

but also through Obama's.

Obama's tax cuts took away an enormous source of revenue?

the US has enormous debt. And very limited revenue streams.

Record tax revenues.

U.S. tax revenues at record high. Who's paying?

Imagine if Republicans had not fucked with the economy.

Obama wouldn't be partially responsible without the GOP.

Unemployment benefits: not until Bush tax cuts pass, Senate GOP says

Blackmail made Obama responsible?

Imagine if Republicans had not fucked with the economy.

Republicans popped the Internet Bubble?

ROFLMAO!!!

Obama wouldn't be partially responsible without the GOP.

Obama signed tax cuts, right?

Blackmail made Obama responsible?

Who blackmailed Obama in 2012?

 

[Oldstyle]

blue collar guys lost jobs because wages in mexico china etc etc were much less

And NAFTA allowed Mexico to lure those jobs south of the border...a trade agreement that Hillary Clinton and her hubby supported.

 

[Oldstyle]

Yeah, and as I posted in another thread... most of their income is kept overseas and they use a Federal law to keep from paying taxes indefinitely on it...

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-carrier-jobs-913348bbf46#.wfdof3flv

Twice before companies were given a tax holiday by Republicans hoping they would bring the money back and use it to invest in American companies.
Instead, it went into investors accounts and just sat there. No new jobs were created. We have been duped by that twice. I guess third time is the charm.

What is needed is some new creativity. To get people with imagination into positions. Not just money movers and money counters.

Twice before companies were given a tax holiday by Republicans hoping they would bring the money back and use it to invest in American companies.
Instead, it went into investors accounts and just sat there.

Companies brought money back, paid the tax on it and gave it to their shareholders.

I can see why that makes you sad.

No new jobs were created.

People had more money but no jobs were created?
You should retake that Econ 101 class you failed.

Share holders had more money which they banked. No jobs were created.

Share holders had more money which they banked.

Every shareholder banked every dollar they received?
Well at least they paid taxes on it first.

No jobs were created.

People putting more money in the bank doesn't create jobs?
What about when people took that money and repaid debt?

Maybe their own personal debt. But when Republicans, using reconciliation, passed the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich, it took away an enormous source of revenue. Not just during Bush's term, but also through Obama's.
Then the 43,000 factories that left under Bush and suddenly, the US has enormous debt. And very limited revenue streams.
Of course, add in the cost of Iraq and the trillions spent.
And Republicans blame every bit of it on Obama.

That's a total crock, R-Derp...the Bush Tax Cuts were extended because Democrats realized that ending them would slow an already weak economy. You liberals voted to extend those cuts because someone with enough economics "smarts" managed to make enough of your leaders understand it would be economic suicide to increase taxes in the midst of a recession! That doesn't stop you from blaming it on the GOP though...does it?

 

[Oldstyle]

And Republicans blame every bit of it (debt) on Obama.

because Republicans have long wanted to make debt illegal and Democrats have killed every effort!! If Newt had gotten his way debt would be 0 now not $20 trillion.

If Clinton had gotten his way, we would have a 5 trillion surplus.

But Bush and the GOP got in the way.

That's just recent history. Millions of jobs moved overseas and the terrible deficit creating Bush tax cuts.

First of all there never WAS a surplus. You'd understand that if you weren't so deficient when it comes to economics.