Yes but is that adjusted for population???
It's one planet, one atmosphere. Explain why the populations matter as to the amount of greenhouse gasses entering the atmosphere.
The data is skewed against the USA due to its size and number of people! Of course we appear a bigger polluter than we are, if we didn't have such good technology, we would pollute much more. And India while contributing 7% is a much bigger polluter considering the small size of the country and population.
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China produces nearly a THIRD of the world CO2 emission yet is GROWING and not affected by the ACCORD.
India, despite its small size producers almost as much as all the countries of the EU combined.
Yes, we produce 14%, considering our population and size, pretty damned good compared to the tiny EU (look at a map).
Tiny Japan producers almost as much as all of Russia!
If you want to say 14% is still 14%, fine, but to cut our CO2 by 20% would be DEVASTATING to our economy, MASSIVELY EXPENSIVE. Now is not the time with our economy already weak and when the benefits of doing so are HIGHLY debatable. Even the PA predicts only a minuscule improvement over a century!
Not a good deal to CRIPPLE ourselves while China and India run away Scott free producing nearly 40% of the total global amount and INCREASING.
Let's take a look at air quality in BEIJING CHINA:
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Now let us take a look at New Delhi India:
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Now, let us take a look at an American City like Chicago, one of our largest:
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Any questions? Pure numbers and statistical data can be deceiving.
Yes you have a problem. No No No No and NO.
Your pictures are very misleading and very wrong comparison.
New Delhi, India is several hundred miles away from the ocean water. Beijing China is approximately 120 miles away a from the ocean water.
Chicago is next to a big body of water Lake Michigan and its windy blowing smog to inland city like Iowa. How often do you see a smog next to a body of water? See picture.
Other picture is from Riverside and San Bernardino, Ca. smog coming from Orange County Ca.
Now you compare those pictures to New Delhi and Beijing.
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This is San Bernardino and Riverside County, Ca
Yes you have a problem. No No No No and NO.
Your pictures are very misleading and very wrong comparison.
New Delhi, India is several hundred miles away from the ocean water. Beijing China is approximately 120 miles away a from the ocean water.
Chicago is next to a big body of water Lake Michigan and its windy blowing smog to inland city like Iowa. How often do you see a smog next to a body of water?
Yes. I see. Thank you. I got it all wrong. I posted a few pictures just for illustration, but China and India don't really have air quality issues! It is just all a matter of where you live next to a body of water!!! How did I never think of that??? The wind always blows around water and they never have breezes or wind away from bodies of water!
BULLSHIT!
1. CHINA. Taken strait from Wiki:
Air pollution has become a major issue in China and poses a threat to Chinese public health. In 2016, only 84 out of 338 prefecture-level or higher cities attained the national standard for air quality. The China Medical Association, warned in 2012 that air pollution could become China's biggest health threat. Measurements by Beijing municipal government in January 2013 showed that highest recorded level of PM2.5 (particulate matter smaller than 2.5 micrometers in size), was at nearly 1,000 μg per cubic meter. Traces of smog from mainland China has been observed to reach as far as California. Large-scale use of formaldehyde in make home building products in construction and furniture also contributes to indoor air pollution.
INDIA. Taken strait from Wiki:
Air pollution in India is quite a serious issue with the major sources being fuelwood and biomass burning, fuel adulteration, vehicle emission and traffic congestion. In autumn and winter months, large scale crop residue burning in agriculture fields – a low cost alternative to mechanical tilling – is a major source of smoke, smog and particulate pollution. India has a low per capita emissions of greenhouse gases but the country as a whole is the third largest greenhouse gas polluter. A 2013 study on non-smokers has found that Indians have 30% lower lung function compared to Europeans. The Air (Prevention and Control of Pollution) Act was passed in 1981 to regulate air pollution and there have been some measurable improvements. However, the 2016 Environmental Performance Index ranked India 141 out of 180 countries.
2. THE USA. Taken straight from Wiki:
Pollution in the United States has plummeted in the recent decade, with pollutants such as nitrogen dioxide decreasing despite the fact the number of vehicles on the road isn't. This is due to better regulations, economic shifts, and technological innovations. With respect to nitrogen dioxide, NASA reported a 32% decrease in New York City and a 42% decrease in Atlanta between the periods of 2005-2007 and 2009-2011.
3. California has the worst air quality of any state, and in most surveys the cities in California rank in the top 5 or top 10 of most polluted air in the United States.
Last I checked, Nimrod, most of your major cities in California lie right along the coast, YOU KNOW, the Pacific Ocean, the LARGEST BODY OF WATER IN THE WORLD.
4. If the Paris Accord wants to worry about real air quality and climate change, ask the people of China and India what they think? These places need to get their act together, not the USA and Trump was right to say Nyet to the Accord rather than foot the bill for other people's problems!!!
1. Wrong again. I never said China and India don't have a pollution problem. Never.
2. This is funny. From your own words-------- US pollution plummeted in the recent decade. DUE to better *regulation*, economic shift and technological innovations ( reusable energy). In short according to you Obama did a very good job. Thank you.
But you purposely omit the increase of natural gas usage which is cheaper to extract and cleaner air compared to coal.
3. I am fully aware of the dirty air here in Ca. From #1 to #4 all of those are located inland. And if you go towards east surrounded by mountains blocking smog. The same with Los Angeles blocked by LA national forest, go south blocked by San Bernardino mountains. For #6 (picture) please don't tell me that is a smog.
We also have drought which causes warmer weather that results increased levels of ozone or smog.
Top 10 most ozone-polluted cities:
1. Fresno-Madera, Calif.
2. Bakersfield, Calif.
3. Visalia-Porterville-Hanford, Calif.
4. Modesto-Merced, Calif.
5. Los Angeles-Long Beach, Calif.
6. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, Calif.
The 10 most polluted cities in the U.S.
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4. China and India are very concern and worried of their air, land and sea quality. And as far as I know they are trying to do something. But to phase out in next 12 years is impossible----- That is why the 2030 time frame come in to place. What made you or others think they are not doing anything?
Trump pulled out from Paris accord is to revive a dying coal industry and believed its a hoax. *Nothing* more repeat nothing more. At the same time Trump believed in Climate Change according Pruiit and Haley.
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