Trump plans 100% tariff on computer chips, unless companies build in U.S.

[egp320i]

That's fine in a few years but Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Micron all make their parts outside the USA, this screws the consumer now who wants to upgrade or rebuild
nobody is going to pay double for a samsung 970 but good chance the T500 is made in mexico, does it get a pass?

Intel does have a few FAB's in the USA but they make enterprise chips, not consumer

he means well well but it's a marathon, not a sprint.......doubling the price tomorrow is insanity

thoughts?

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[The Duke]

That's fine in a few years but Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Micron all make their parts outside the USA, this screws the consumer now who wants to upgrade or rebuild
nobody is going to pay double for a samsung 970 but good chance the T500 is made in mexico, does it get a pass?

he means well well but it's a marathon, not a sprint.......dropping doubling the price tomorrow is insanity

thoughts?

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-says-plans-put-100-213632525.html

Dude, Trump is undoing the offshoring of manufacturing that H.W. Bush and Clinton did.
I wouldn't hammer Taiwan. Or Vietnam. Those companies need to manufacture IN the US.

 

[egp320i]

Dude, Trump is undoing the offshoring of manufacturing that H.W. Bush and Clinton did.
I wouldn't hammer Taiwan. Or Vietnam. Those companies need to manufacture IN the US.

apparently that is what he is doing with china in the crosshairs, yes my last intel chip was Vietnam, back in the day costa rica or Malaysia

 

[The Duke]

That's fine in a few years but Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Micron all make their parts outside the USA, this screws the consumer now who wants to upgrade or rebuild
nobody is going to pay double for a samsung 970 but good chance the T500 is made in mexico, does it get a pass?

Intel does have a few FAB's in the USA but they make enterprise chips, not consumer

he means well well but it's a marathon, not a sprint.......doubling the price tomorrow is insanity

thoughts?

story

Here's another thought: NVIDIA didn't manufacture almost anything for about 2 years, but their stock kept going steadily up? That's fishy.
I'm buying some Intel as soon as I can.
AMD GPUs have potential to be more powerful, but they don't write drivers for them.
During the covid lack of GPU-age, I sold off several GPUs at a slight profit over the retail I paid for them.
I wasn't gouging, either, I was the cheapest. Nothing got made for almost 2 years with that covid garbage.

 

[JGalt]

That's fine in a few years but Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Micron all make their parts outside the USA, this screws the consumer now who wants to upgrade or rebuild
nobody is going to pay double for a samsung 970 but good chance the T500 is made in mexico, does it get a pass?

Intel does have a few FAB's in the USA but they make enterprise chips, not consumer

he means well well but it's a marathon, not a sprint.......doubling the price tomorrow is insanity

thoughts?

story

I would call it "Americanize or die."

 

[toobfreak]

That's fine in a few years but Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Micron all make their parts outside the USA, this screws the consumer now who wants to upgrade or rebuild

Trump realizes that. His tariff is to create panic and urgency. Soon, he will drop or change the tariffs on these chips if the chip makers commit to investing in American manufacturing by some deadline he sets, that way, he gets the ball rolling yet keeps prices affordable.

Intel does have a few FAB's in the USA but they make enterprise chips, not consumer

I use a Xeon W3565 quad-core cpu.

 

[IM2]

Another stupid tariff, considering Biden had passed the Chips Act.

 

[egp320i]

Trump realizes that. His tariff is to create panic and urgency. Soon, he will drop or change the tariffs on these chips if the chip makers commit to investing in American manufacturing by some deadline he sets, that way, he gets the ball rolling yet keeps prices affordable.


I use a Xeon W3565 quad-core cpu.

I see what you did there and him, yeah it's a scare ploy that apparently is still working

trump is not so dumb to expect FABS not built to start making chips here. we have the land, well if you want to tear up trees and pave of cactus, do we have the water is a main issue or the labor force? sent all the illegals back who is going to work at these FABS to keep up with chip demand?
apparently the average person in Taiwan is smarter then those in the USA and can handle clean room work

your come computer is using a server board? I mean that's cool for the coin but wee bit overkill?

 

[Anomalism]

Another stupid tariff, considering Biden had passed the Chips Act.

We shouldn't rely so heavily on other nations for the production of such vital technology in my opinion.

Chips typically account for 20–30% of a computer's total cost. Expect a ballpark of 20–40% price jump when buying one as a result, depending on the device, margins, and domestic sourcing.

The result will be a lot more domestic production, and fast. In the long run it will be worth it.

 

[toobfreak]

your come computer is using a server board? I mean that's cool for the coin but wee bit overkill?

Not really. It is a high-end MacPro desktop set up as a RAID 5. I've had the thing since Spring of 2011. Still going strong. The RAID controller card alone was worth the price of two PCs.

 

[egp320i]

Not really. It is a high-end MacPro desktop set up as a RAID 5. I've had the thing since Spring of 2011. Still going strong. The RAID controller card alone was worth the price of two PCs.

hold up, what mac pro desktop runs a server chip? Sounds durable but unless you have 3 extra bays and a highpoint or adaptec raid card, they are not that much

I have a custom build computer I did myself, I have a marvel raid chip that can do 5 and 10 but I just use 1, it's just a bulk storage of old shit I probably don't need anymore but horde and have not got around to throwing away.

I7, 16GB RAM, mid level nvidia card, SSD pair in raid 1, it's freaking fast

 

[Muhammed]

That's fine in a few years but Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Micron all make their parts outside the USA, this screws the consumer now who wants to upgrade or rebuild
nobody is going to pay double for a samsung 970 but good chance the T500 is made in mexico, does it get a pass?

Intel does have a few FAB's in the USA but they make enterprise chips, not consumer

he means well well but it's a marathon, not a sprint.......doubling the price tomorrow is insanity

thoughts?

story

Here in Ohio, Intel is building a massive new facility that will make 18A CPUs and GPUs.

They have already poured over 200,000 cubic yards of concrete at the site this year.

 

[cnm]

thoughts?

You caught the bus.

 

[cnm]

Trump realizes that. His tariff is to create panic and urgency. Soon, he will drop or change the tariffs on these chips if the chip makers commit to investing in American manufacturing by some deadline he sets, that way, he gets the ball rolling yet keeps prices affordable.

I'm reassured to find one really can fool some of the people all of the time...

some deadline he sets​

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It can't get better.

 

[cnm]

Here in Ohio, Intel is building a massive new facility that will make 18A CPUs and GPUs.

They have already poured over 200,000 cubic yards of concrete at the site this year.

This one?

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https://www.nbc4i.com/intel-in-ohio/intel-ohio-plant-likely-canceled-if-company-cant-get-new-manufacturing-customers/

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Updated: Jul 31, 2025​

NEW ALBANY, Ohio (WCMH) — Intel announced it will need to get external customers for its manufacturing division, or it may need to stop all work in Ohio.​

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Last week, Intel announced it is further slowing construction at its $28 billion manufacturing site in Licking County. Intel also said if it is unable to find external customers for a new manufacturing technology, it will likely have to stop all work in Ohio. The technology is called 14A and won’t debut until 2027, so Intel will have some time to try and acquire the customers it needs.​

 

[shockedcanadian]

This seems very high, is there production of chips currently occurring so that they can be made locally? If not, this tariff will backfire unless there is a domestic replacement. He never should have allowed certain chips to be sent to China without them committing to domestic production.

 

[cnm]

Started in 2022 I understand.

https://www.nbc4i.com/intel-in-ohio/what-does-intel-mean-by-slowing-construction/

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Intel told our partners at Columbus Business First, ‘slowing construction’ really does mean slowing and says they have not pushed back the 2031 finish at this time. DeWine said in a news conference Friday he spoke with Intel’s new CEO following the announcement.​

 

[toobfreak]

hold up, what mac pro desktop runs a server chip?

Apparently mine does. When I ordered the computer, they offered several choices up to a 16-core Windmere I think. The quad-core was the best fit to my needs, I didn't buy it thinking it was a "server" chip. You'd have to ask Apple Engineering why they pick this chip or that.

Sounds durable but unless you have 3 extra bays and a highpoint or adaptec raid card, they are not that much

In 2011 when I ordered the RAID controller off of Apple, I think it sold for something like $996 dollars. It is quite sophisticated--- for instance, if the computer is interrupted or dies during a WRITE operation to the HDDs, the card saves the last WRITE operation on the card so that once normal operation resumes, the WRITE operation is completed and nothing is lost.

I have a custom build computer I did myself, I have a marvel raid chip that can do 5 and 10 but I just use 1, it's just a bulk storage of old shit I probably don't need anymore but horde and have not got around to throwing away.

I'm guessing that Apple makes the RAID controller. To my knowledge, the whole computer was designed and manufactured by Apple in California, except for the graphics card, which was made by NVIDIA. I don't know if this is typical, but my controller has a battery on it which every few months, must be "conditioned" to keep it healthy.

There is not a single loose wire inside the computer. Here is a peek. The controller card is the long, thin card above the red thing (the graphics card):

 

[egp320i]

Apparently mine does. When I ordered the computer, they offered several choices up to a 16-core Windmere I think. The quad-core was the best fit to my needs, I didn't buy it thinking it was a "server" chip. You'd have to ask Apple Engineering why they pick this chip or that.


In 2011 when I ordered the RAID controller off of Apple, I think it sold for something like $996 dollars. It is quite sophisticated--- for instance, if the computer is interrupted or dies during a WRITE operation to the HDDs, the card saves the last WRITE operation on the card so that once normal operation resumes, the WRITE operation is completed and nothing is lost.


I'm guessing that Apple makes the RAID controller. To my knowledge, the whole computer was designed and manufactured by Apple in California, except for the graphics card, which was made by NVIDIA. I don't know if this is typical, but my controller has a battery on it which every few months, must be "conditioned" to keep it healthy.

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There is not a single loose wire inside the computer. Here is a peek. The controller card is the long, thin card above the red thing (the graphics card):

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pretty slick for 2011, My first build was 2000
if if has a server chip likely a sever memory, ECC

apple did not make that raid card, likely adaptec which in 2011 server grade yes would likely have a crazy price like that.

if it works it does, probably were on 7, went to 10, with EOL need 11 but without TMP 2.0, GPT and secure boot you are screwed unless you use rufus to bypass all that bullshit
hopefully C drive is not in raid or you will need to go into bios and break the array to convert in window RE in command prompt, admin with mbr2gpt switch without destroying your OS
doable but steps need followed in order or it won't work

 

[egp320i]

You caught the bus.

what bus would that be?
this is not political this is logical, we don't have the educated people, we need a water source too
we have the land if you want to cut down a forest all so that we can make chips somebody else can, a friend
of the USA, WTF for exactly?
we DO have FAB's here a I noted but they only produce server grade chip, nothing you need to buy for your home computer
You don't need the power and they cost 3x more
If you want to build your own server go for it, you can