Trump orders American troops to retreat

[bravoactual]

It's always a good laugh when Dems play Monday morning QB after professionals in a GOP administration make a military decision.

It was a Republican that allowed the surrender of an Active U.S. Military Base to Russia...Democrats had nothing to do with that.

It was a Republican that allowed the surrender of an Active U.S. Military Base to Russia...

When did Syria give us permission to build a military base?

U.S. Military Bases in NORTHERN SYRIA, have been surrendered to Russia.

Russians mock US troops for abandoning military bases in Syria.

The insanity of Trump's surrender in Syria as Russia gleefully moves in | Daily Mail Online.

U.S. Military Bases surrendered to Russia by 45. The first time in our country's history that U.S. Military Bases have been surrendered to Russia by REPUBLICAN.

Yeah, weird, huh? It's usually Democrats who surrender to the Russkies. SEE ALSO: The Vietnam War.

Actually that surrender to Communist Viet Nam happened under Richard M. Nixon, a Republican. I know Cons are fact challenged but that so very very easy to fact check, you did fact check right?

The War in Viet Nam Ended in 1973, I served in the Nam. Nixon was President in 1973.

The formal peace treaty was signed on January 27, 1973.

The U.S. under Nixon did a huge cut and run on the South Viet Namese. Nixon also went to China. Republican....NOT A DEMOCRAT!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's always a good laugh when Dems play Monday morning QB after professionals in a GOP administration make a military decision.

It was a Republican that allowed the surrender of an Active U.S. Military Base to Russia...Democrats had nothing to do with that.

It was a Republican that allowed the surrender of an Active U.S. Military Base to Russia...

When did Syria give us permission to build a military base?

U.S. Military Bases in NORTHERN SYRIA, have been surrendered to Russia.

Russians mock US troops for abandoning military bases in Syria.

The insanity of Trump's surrender in Syria as Russia gleefully moves in | Daily Mail Online.

Video shows the inside of an abandoned US camp in Syria taken over by Russian mercenaries.

U.S. Military Bases surrendered to Russia by 45. The first time in our country's history that U.S. Military Bases have been surrendered to Russia by REPUBLICAN.

U.S. Military Bases in NORTHERN SYRIA,

I heard that......when did Syria allow us to build bases?

The first time in our country's history that U.S. Military Bases have been surrendered to Russia by REPUBLICAN.

Does that make up for all the military bases in Europe that the Russians lost when Reagan won the Cold War?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's always a good laugh when Dems play Monday morning QB after professionals in a GOP administration make a military decision.

It was a Republican that allowed the surrender of an Active U.S. Military Base to Russia...Democrats had nothing to do with that.

It was a Republican that allowed the surrender of an Active U.S. Military Base to Russia...

When did Syria give us permission to build a military base?

U.S. Military Bases in NORTHERN SYRIA, have been surrendered to Russia.

Russians mock US troops for abandoning military bases in Syria.

The insanity of Trump's surrender in Syria as Russia gleefully moves in | Daily Mail Online.

U.S. Military Bases surrendered to Russia by 45. The first time in our country's history that U.S. Military Bases have been surrendered to Russia by REPUBLICAN.

Yeah, weird, huh? It's usually Democrats who surrender to the Russkies. SEE ALSO: The Vietnam War.

Actually that surrender to Communist Viet Nam happened under Richard M. Nixon, a Republican. I know Cons are fact challenged but that so very very easy to fact check, you did fact check right?

The War in Viet Nam Ended in 1973, I served in the Nam. Nixon was President in 1973.

The formal peace treaty was signed on January 27, 1973.

The U.S. under Nixon did a huge cut and run on the South Viet Namese. Nixon also went to China. Republican....NOT A DEMOCRAT!

Actually that surrender to Communist Viet Nam happened under Richard M. Nixon, a Republican.

Democrats in Congress cut off the funding and materials that the South needed to defend themselves.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

It's always a good laugh when Dems play Monday morning QB after professionals in a GOP administration make a military decision.

With the exception of Trump's followers who support his cooperation with Vladimir Putin, Trump has accomplished the impossible. He has made Americans feel ashamed of being an American.

He betrayed an ally. He has proven, that under his stewardship, America cannot be trusted. He has ceded power broker status in the Middle East to Russia.

"Russia Assumes Mantle of Supreme Power Broker in the Middle East," proclaimed Britain's Telegraph. "Russia's status as the undisputed power-broker in the Middle East was cemented as Vladimir Putin continued a triumphant tour of capitals traditionally allied to the US."

"Donald Trump Has Handed Putin the Middle East on a Plate," according to the Telegraph. "Putin Seizes on Trump's Syria Retreat to Cement Middle East Role," said the Financial Times.

The conservative leaning Washington Examiner writes, "The awful and obviously predictable outcome of President Trump’s surrender in Syria has now come to pass.

"Turkey and Russia have announced an agreement to remove Kurdish fighters from northern Syria, a horrible development for the forces of freedom and Middle Eastern stability. This agreement supersedes the Kurds' earlier attempt at an agreement with Russia and the government of Bashar Assad. Now, Turkey will move against YPG Kurdish units in northern Syria from one side, while Russia and its Syrian government clients will move in from the other. Crucially, all Kurdish fighting “elements and their weapons” will “be removed from Manbij and Tal Rifat.”

"Those towns, especially the large town of Manbij, are strategic linchpins. Without them, the Kurds can be essentially starved out. There could be an immense humanitarian crisis."

If Russia ends up effectively dominating Turkey, the damage it can do in the eastern Mediterranean region is immense.

The conservative Examiner concludes, There is not a single strategic or tactical gain for U.S. interests that has been gained from Trump’s order of withdrawal. In fact, more U.S. troops will be in the Middle East than before, but nations traditionally hostile to the U.S. are now ascendant.

This is disastrous, pure and simple.

Of course, none of this bothers Trump's fans.

 

[lennypartiv]

With the exception of Trump's followers who support his cooperation with Vladimir Putin, Trump has accomplished the impossible. He has made Americans feel ashamed of being an American.
He betrayed an ally. He has proven, that under his stewardship, America cannot be trusted. He has ceded power broker status in the Middle East to Russia.
"Russia Assumes Mantle of Supreme Power Broker in the Middle East," proclaimed Britain's Telegraph. "Russia's status as the undisputed power-broker in the Middle East was cemented as Vladimir Putin continued a triumphant tour of capitals traditionally allied to the US."
"Donald Trump Has Handed Putin the Middle East on a Plate," according to the Telegraph. "Putin Seizes on Trump's Syria Retreat to Cement Middle East Role," said the Financial Times.
The conservative leaning Washington Examiner writes, "The awful and obviously predictable outcome of President Trump’s surrender in Syria has now come to pass.
"Turkey and Russia have announced an agreement to remove Kurdish fighters from northern Syria, a horrible development for the forces of freedom and Middle Eastern stability. This agreement supersedes the Kurds' earlier attempt at an agreement with Russia and the government of Bashar Assad. Now, Turkey will move against YPG Kurdish units in northern Syria from one side, while Russia and its Syrian government clients will move in from the other. Crucially, all Kurdish fighting “elements and their weapons” will “be removed from Manbij and Tal Rifat.”
"Those towns, especially the large town of Manbij, are strategic linchpins. Without them, the Kurds can be essentially starved out. There could be an immense humanitarian crisis."
If Russia ends up effectively dominating Turkey, the damage it can do in the eastern Mediterranean region is immense.
The conservative Examiner concludes, There is not a single strategic or tactical gain for U.S. interests that has been gained from Trump’s order of withdrawal. In fact, more U.S. troops will be in the Middle East than before, but nations traditionally hostile to the U.S. are now ascendant.
This is disastrous, pure and simple.
Of course, none of this bothers Trump's fans.

it doesn't bother us because it's fake news.

 

[basquebromance]

Pres. Trump: “There were some political pundits who responded to Turkey’s offensive in Syria by calling for yet another American military intervention. I don’t think so.” “They are the ones who got us into the Middle East mess, but never had the vision or courage to get us out.”

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Trump and his SecDef, Mark Esper, are without shame as they try to defend Trump's decision to surrender to Turkey and Russia.

Recently, Esper was interviewed by Christiane Amanpour. In that interview our secretary of defense said, The United States "didn't sign up to fight a war to defend the Kurds against a longstanding NATO ally."

So, according to Esper, if the Turks wish to eliminate an American ally, that is okay with him and U.S. forces won't get in the way. That, or course, is what the military ignorant Trump said. Trump and Esper think it is their job to prevent our troops from getting hurt.

He added later that Turkey "is a longstanding NATO ally," saying, "we're not going to go to war with a NATO ally and certainly not ... with regard to a border that we didn't sign up to defend in the first place."

"We're not going to go to war with a NATO ally." Did our secretary of defense think Turkey would engage U.S. forces? Did he not know that a small U.S. force has been in Syria for over two years as a buffer to prevent going to war.

It worked until Trump removed that buffer and war began immediately as Turkey invaded Syria. Now the region is controlled by Turkey, Russia, and the butcher, Assad.

The gutless Esper was hired by Trump to be his mouthpiece in the Pentagon. Esper is doing a great job of doing just that.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Trump defended his dishonorable surrender decision to betray our Kurdish allies today. To properly understand Trump's statements one must know two things.

First, directly as a result of Trump's decision, hundreds have died and over 100,000 people have been forced to leave their homes. Secondly, Trump speaks only to his base, not Republicans in Congress and not the American people as a whole. Only his base will believe his statements.

“This was an outcome created by us, the United States, and nobody else,” Trump said. “No other nation. Very simple.” No, this was an outcome created by Trump and his unconditional surrender to Turkish and Russian goals. For example, Russian troops now occupy former American bases.

Trump announced that the United States had brokered a permanent cease-fire in northeast Syria, taking credit for a tentative deal that was worked out between Turkey and Russia. He lifted the sanctions he had imposed after Turkey invaded Kurdish-run areas south of its border. The President cast the announcement as a triumph of diplomacy.

In other words, this is complete capitulation to Turkey and Russia, and Trump is telling his base this was a diplomatic victory and a proud moment for America.

“Let someone else fight over this long bloodstained sand,” Trump said. It is Trump's wish to abandon Israel, leave the Middle East and its strategic oil deposits, and turn the whole region over to Russia, Turkey, and Iran. Trump even said it. “Others have come out to help and we welcomed them to do so; other countries have stepped forward,” referring to the hours of negotiations in Sochi, Russia between Putin and President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey. “They want to help and we think that’s great.”

Good grief, this is our President. Has he lost his mind? Is this another one of his stupid jokes?

“The government of Turkey informed my administration that they would be stopping combat and their offensive in Syria, and making the cease-fire permanent,” Trump said. Doesn't the idiot know Erdogan stopped the fighting because he has gotten everything he wanted and more.

Trump calls this a diplomatic triumph???

Erdogan and Putin have to be laughing their fool heads off at the American President. Putin picked a good one when he picked Trump to run our country.

Now to top everything off, there was a ruckus in the capital today as Republican representatives stormed the meeting room for the impeachment hearing, delaying testimony for about five hours.

No doubt Trump's fans are quite happy with all this.

 

[lennypartiv]

I see we have more Democrats playing Monday morning quarterback.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Ope! And back to Syria we go:

US military vehicles cross into Syria's oil field area, official confirms

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/10/26/politics/us-military-syria-oil-field/index.html?r=https://www.cnn.com/

 

[22lcidw]

Trump and his SecDef, Mark Esper, are without shame as they try to defend Trump's decision to surrender to Turkey and Russia.

Recently, Esper was interviewed by Christiane Amanpour. In that interview our secretary of defense said, The United States "didn't sign up to fight a war to defend the Kurds against a longstanding NATO ally."

So, according to Esper, if the Turks wish to eliminate an American ally, that is okay with him and U.S. forces won't get in the way. That, or course, is what the military ignorant Trump said. Trump and Esper think it is their job to prevent our troops from getting hurt.

He added later that Turkey "is a longstanding NATO ally," saying, "we're not going to go to war with a NATO ally and certainly not ... with regard to a border that we didn't sign up to defend in the first place."

"We're not going to go to war with a NATO ally." Did our secretary of defense think Turkey would engage U.S. forces? Did he not know that a small U.S. force has been in Syria for over two years as a buffer to prevent going to war.

It worked until Trump removed that buffer and war began immediately as Turkey invaded Syria. Now the region is controlled by Turkey, Russia, and the butcher, Assad.

The gutless Esper was hired by Trump to be his mouthpiece in the Pentagon. Esper is doing a great job of doing just that.

Areas of the world have been traditionally influenced from more powerful neighbors. We just happened to get into it almost as soon as the Soviet Union officially fell under the first President Bush. Then we never left. Fighting wars is different then policing. It is understood that there are people who yearn for freedom. They must mostly all be on the same page though. It seems like that type of fighting is part of the makeup of people in that region. It never ends.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I see we have more Democrats playing Monday morning quarterback.

Well that's idiotic. Literally every dem amd Republican said exactly what would happen before it happened. Nice try, troll.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Still true, every report we are getting is coming from Trump or the White House. Taking into account their propensity to lie, the convenience of Baghdadi's demise considering the strong criticism Trump has received from Republicans and others, I am not willing to accept Baghdadi's death until we hear from an independent source, any source other than Trump and the White House.

However, the irony of this operation -- if it happened -- is palpable.

Trump was criticized heavily by members of his own party, members of his own staff, and our military leaders for his cowardice after making the dishonorable decision to betray in important ally in Syria. Matters got only worse as Erdogan and Putin decided things for him, and Trump characterized his unconditional surrender to Turkey and Russia as great diplomatic victory.

Making matters worse, the Pentagon countermanded Trump's decision and upped the ante. The Pentagon decided to send in tanks, armor, and the requisite number of troops to guard the oil fields and deal with the ISIS terrorists who escaped as a consequence of Trump's decision to retreat.

In other words, contrary to what he said on Oct. 7 -- "We want to bring our troops back home” -- more troops than ever will be sent to Syria.

Amidst all this Trump proudly declares a military victory, the exact opposite of his intentions a few weeks ago.

Trump proudly described the military operation by the Joint Special Operations Command's Delta Team. He imagined Baghdadi's final minutes for his audience.
"He died like a dog. He died like a coward. The world is now a much safer place.".

Trump then described the situation as if he was there, saying the ISIS leader "spent his last moments in utter fear, in total panic and dread, terrified of the American forces bearing down on him." Trump loves melodrama to enhance the viewing pleasure of his audience, his gullible base.

No doubt Trump was enjoying his military victory.

The only question is, is it real or imagined?

Baghdadi has been killed many times in the past.

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has only appeared in public once since he declared himself emir (leader) of the Islamic State in June 2014.

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: Everything you need to know about the leader of the Islamic State

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Still true, every report we are getting is coming from Trump or the White House. Taking into account their propensity to lie, the convenience of Baghdadi's demise considering the strong criticism Trump has received from Republicans and others, I am not willing to accept Baghdadi's death until we hear from an independent source, any source other than Trump and the White House.

However, the irony of this operation -- if it happened -- is palpable.

Trump was criticized heavily by members of his own party, members of his own staff, and our military leaders for his cowardice after making the dishonorable decision to betray in important ally in Syria. Matters got only worse as Erdogan and Putin decided things for him, and Trump characterized his unconditional surrender to Turkey and Russia as great diplomatic victory.

Making matters worse, the Pentagon countermanded Trump's decision and upped the ante. The Pentagon decided to send in tanks, armor, and the requisite number of troops to guard the oil fields and deal with the ISIS terrorists who escaped as a consequence of Trump's decision to retreat.

In other words, contrary to what he said on Oct. 7 -- "We want to bring our troops back home” -- more troops than ever will be sent to Syria.

Amidst all this Trump proudly declares a military victory, the exact opposite of his intentions a few weeks ago.

Trump proudly described the military operation by the Joint Special Operations Command's Delta Team. He imagined Baghdadi's final minutes for his audience.
"He died like a dog. He died like a coward. The world is now a much safer place.".

Trump then described the situation as if he was there, saying the ISIS leader "spent his last moments in utter fear, in total panic and dread, terrified of the American forces bearing down on him." Trump loves melodrama to enhance the viewing pleasure of his audience, his gullible base.

No doubt Trump was enjoying his military victory.

The only question is, is it real or imagined?

Baghdadi has been killed many times in the past.

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has only appeared in public once since he declared himself emir (leader) of the Islamic State in June 2014.

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: Everything you need to know about the leader of the Islamic State

Yes, you can believe al Baghdadi is dead. They got him.