Trump needs more than 1237 delegates to win

[SuperDemocrat]

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

 

[FJO]

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

You may be right. Just imagine how much better off the world would have been with a Gore Presidency:

1. No war in Afghanistan. No war on innocent Taliban whose only fault was of hiding Osama bin Laden. No bloodthirsty attack on Islam, the religion of peace.

2. No more criminal reliance on coal. Let those coal miners go to Hell and/or just die peacefully.

3. No more coal fired electric plants. Only those who get their electricity from sun and wind deserve electricity.

4. No more Miami. Instant and immediate relocation of all people from there, avoiding the impending disaster of rising seas.

5. No more cars, SUV's, trucks or trains moved by evil Diesel. Deliver goods by bicycle in order to save Mother Earth.

6. As the inventor of internet, Gore would have had the power to decide who would merit internet. Or TV. Or telephone.

7. No more air travel, except for private air craft owned by environmentally conscientious patriots like Al Gore and Leonardo di Caprio.

 

[eddiew]

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

Dems imo were right about Fla .....and look how that "cheat" turned out Now Jan Brewer of AZ is yelling she was cheated too

 

[SuperDemocrat]

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

You may be right. Just imagine how much better off the world would have been with a Gore Presidency:

1. No war in Afghanistan. No war on innocent Taliban whose only fault was of hiding Osama bin Laden. No bloodthirsty attack on Islam, the religion of peace.

2. No more criminal reliance on coal. Let those coal miners go to Hell and/or just die peacefully.

3. No more coal fired electric plants. Only those who get their electricity from sun and wind deserve electricity.

4. No more Miami. Instant and immediate relocation of all people from there, avoiding the impending disaster of rising seas.

5. No more cars, SUV's, trucks or trains moved by evil Diesel. Deliver goods by bicycle in order to save Mother Earth.

6. As the inventor of internet, Gore would have had the power to decide who would merit internet. Or TV. Or telephone.

7. No more air travel, except for private air craft owned by environmentally conscientious patriots like Al Gore and Leonardo di Caprio.

I was just asking some honest questions. I didn't mind that Geoge Bush won and didn't care if the democrats cried about losing but now that the same stuff is being turned against Trump it just makes it more apparent. I don't know if the RNC was completely honest about the FLorida election now. I don't know if the democrats were completely honest either. So many people lie it is impossible to tell who is telling the truth.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

Dems imo were right about Fla .....and look how that "cheat" turned out Now Jan Brewer of AZ is yelling she was cheated too

They are trying to cover this up. Even the local media in Arizona doesn't talk about it. They know such a controversy will benefit Trump even more. I'm going to start tweeting this story so that it will break out nationally.

 

[Indeependent]

If Trump doesn't get the nod, I expect major Convention Hall damage.

 

[HappyJoy]

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

it's not cheating, it's understanding the rules and executing, regardless of how democratic the process was.

Florida :

1. Removing people from the voter roles who had the right to vote
2. A crappy designed ballot that led many older Jewish voters to cast a vote for Pat Buchanan (even he says those votes shouldn't have been his)
3. Stopping the recount
4. The Democrats only wanting to count in select counties when it should have been a statewide recount.

Florida has nothing to do with Trump's incompetence and most of the items above are not from "cheating".

 

[Boss]

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

Maniacal... So now you've concocted some hypothetical sinister conspiracy theory in your head and the paranoia is causing you to think Democrats were right about Florida in 2000? Is that what you're telling us?

The chances of Trump landing on exactly 1,237 delegates is near impossible. Generally, candidates who are over the 1,237 before the convention are over by enough of a margin that a few delegates won't matter. There are always a few delegates who are unbound and change their votes at the last minute... usually in support of some third party candidate. This isn't "cheating" it's part of the process.

It sounds to me like you are setting up the scenario for if Trump gets close but fails to get the 1,237 on the first ballot... you can start hollering about cheating and rigged systems.

In 1980, Ronald Reagan's team had crunched the numbers and though they were over the 1,237 needed, it wasn't by a lot. They feared the same thing, that the establishment would work some back room deal to peel off some of his delegates and prevent him from a win on the first ballot. As a strategic move to prevent this, he nominated HW Bush as his VP. Well, it turned out he really didn't need to have done that, he won by a substantial margin. But that's the process, that's how campaigns have to strategize.

So to Trump AND his supporters... Stop the infantile whining about cheating and rigged systems and get the fucking job done. Ya boy is supposed to be good at closing deals... close the fucking deal and shut the fuck up. This incessant whining and moaning about things not being "fairrrr" makes you all sound like a bunch of milquetoast liberals.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

it's not cheating, it's understanding the rules and executing, regardless of how democratic the process was.

Florida :

1. Removing people from the voter roles who had the right to vote
2. A crappy designed ballot that led many older Jewish voters to cast a vote for Pat Buchanan (even he says those votes shouldn't have been his)
3. Stopping the recount
4. The Democrats only wanting to count in select counties when it should have been a statewide recount.

Florida has nothing to do with Trump's incompetence and most of the items above are not from "cheating".

I'm just pointing out it kind of sounds similar. I really don't know the truth because so many people say so much shit back and forth that it is impossible to tell what that is anymore. I just kind of gave up on understanding it sometimes.

 

[HappyJoy]

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

it's not cheating, it's understanding the rules and executing, regardless of how democratic the process was.

Florida :

1. Removing people from the voter roles who had the right to vote
2. A crappy designed ballot that led many older Jewish voters to cast a vote for Pat Buchanan (even he says those votes shouldn't have been his)
3. Stopping the recount
4. The Democrats only wanting to count in select counties when it should have been a statewide recount.

Florida has nothing to do with Trump's incompetence and most of the items above are not from "cheating".

I'm just pointing out it kind of sounds similar. I really don't know the truth because so many people say so much shit back and forth that it is impossible to tell what that is anymore. I just kind of gave up on understanding it sometimes.

Doesn't sound similar at all.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

Maniacal... So now you've concocted some hypothetical sinister conspiracy theory in your head and the paranoia is causing you to think Democrats were right about Florida in 2000? Is that what you're telling us?

The chances of Trump landing on exactly 1,237 delegates is near impossible. Generally, candidates who are over the 1,237 before the convention are over by enough of a margin that a few delegates won't matter. There are always a few delegates who are unbound and change their votes at the last minute... usually in support of some third party candidate. This isn't "cheating" it's part of the process.

It sounds to me like you are setting up the scenario for if Trump gets close but fails to get the 1,237 on the first ballot... you can start hollering about cheating and rigged systems.

In 1980, Ronald Reagan's team had crunched the numbers and though they were over the 1,237 needed, it wasn't by a lot. They feared the same thing, that the establishment would work some back room deal to peel off some of his delegates and prevent him from a win on the first ballot. As a strategic move to prevent this, he nominated HW Bush as his VP. Well, it turned out he really didn't need to have done that, he won by a substantial margin. But that's the process, that's how campaigns have to strategize.

So to Trump AND his supporters... Stop the infantile whining about cheating and rigged systems and get the fucking job done. Ya boy is supposed to be good at closing deals... close the fucking deal and shut the fuck up. This incessant whining and moaning about things not being "fairrrr" makes you all sound like a bunch of milquetoast liberals.

I read the story and the delegates decided not to elect Trump because more people voted against him than for him. Technichally that is true but only because you added up both Cruiz and Kasich together which is more than the total vote for Trump but Trump still beats either of them by a landslide. And don't give me this crap that it is the rules and that makes it good because slavery was a rule and that didn't make it OK to do. What is the point of having an election if the party is just going to override it?

 

[Avatar4321]

Well I guess the easiest way to stop trump is just to keep him from the magic number and let the delegates decide

 

[FJO]

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

You may be right. Just imagine how much better off the world would have been with a Gore Presidency:

1. No war in Afghanistan. No war on innocent Taliban whose only fault was of hiding Osama bin Laden. No bloodthirsty attack on Islam, the religion of peace.

2. No more criminal reliance on coal. Let those coal miners go to Hell and/or just die peacefully.

3. No more coal fired electric plants. Only those who get their electricity from sun and wind deserve electricity.

4. No more Miami. Instant and immediate relocation of all people from there, avoiding the impending disaster of rising seas.

5. No more cars, SUV's, trucks or trains moved by evil Diesel. Deliver goods by bicycle in order to save Mother Earth.

6. As the inventor of internet, Gore would have had the power to decide who would merit internet. Or TV. Or telephone.

7. No more air travel, except for private air craft owned by environmentally conscientious patriots like Al Gore and Leonardo di Caprio.

I was just asking some honest questions. I didn't mind that Geoge Bush won and didn't care if the democrats cried about losing but now that the same stuff is being turned against Trump it just makes it more apparent. I don't know if the RNC was completely honest about the FLorida election now. I don't know if the democrats were completely honest either. So many people lie it is impossible to tell who is telling the truth.

It is the life long career politicians who developed the capacity at limitless lying. If they had any decency, all of them would leave Washington, DC or any of the State Capitals after four years or two terms, whichever is less, just as the Founding Fathers intended.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

Well I guess the easiest way to stop trump is just to keep him from the magic number and let the delegates decide

I'm sure someone else has already thought of that long ago. The good thing about a Hillary presidency is that this country can finally see how bad it can get under socialism. It may take a generation or so but eventually people will get tired of it just like they did in the Soviet Union.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

You may be right. Just imagine how much better off the world would have been with a Gore Presidency:

1. No war in Afghanistan. No war on innocent Taliban whose only fault was of hiding Osama bin Laden. No bloodthirsty attack on Islam, the religion of peace.

2. No more criminal reliance on coal. Let those coal miners go to Hell and/or just die peacefully.

3. No more coal fired electric plants. Only those who get their electricity from sun and wind deserve electricity.

4. No more Miami. Instant and immediate relocation of all people from there, avoiding the impending disaster of rising seas.

5. No more cars, SUV's, trucks or trains moved by evil Diesel. Deliver goods by bicycle in order to save Mother Earth.

6. As the inventor of internet, Gore would have had the power to decide who would merit internet. Or TV. Or telephone.

7. No more air travel, except for private air craft owned by environmentally conscientious patriots like Al Gore and Leonardo di Caprio.

I was just asking some honest questions. I didn't mind that Geoge Bush won and didn't care if the democrats cried about losing but now that the same stuff is being turned against Trump it just makes it more apparent. I don't know if the RNC was completely honest about the FLorida election now. I don't know if the democrats were completely honest either. So many people lie it is impossible to tell who is telling the truth.

It is the life long career politicians who developed the capacity at limitless lying. If they had any decency, all of them would leave Washington, DC or any of the State Capitals after four years or two terms, whichever is less, just as the Founding Fathers intended.

I totally agree with that.

 

[Avatar4321]

Well I guess the easiest way to stop trump is just to keep him from the magic number and let the delegates decide

I'm sure someone else has already thought of that long ago. The good thing about a Hillary presidency is that this country can finally see how bad it can get under socialism. It may take a generation or so but eventually people will get tired of it just like they did in the Soviet Union.

8 years of Obama wasn't enough???

 

[SuperDemocrat]

Well I guess the easiest way to stop trump is just to keep him from the magic number and let the delegates decide

I'm sure someone else has already thought of that long ago. The good thing about a Hillary presidency is that this country can finally see how bad it can get under socialism. It may take a generation or so but eventually people will get tired of it just like they did in the Soviet Union.

8 years of Obama wasn't enough???

A lot of people are abandoning the democratic party and even though younger people support the democratic party by a lot they to will feel the burn as they try to find jobs in this country. Eventually the entire country as a whole will figure it out that capitalism is the only way to go.

 

[DarkFury]

If Trump hits the 1237 the question is moot. Those delegates taken cannot switch until a second ballot. 1237 on the first and its over.

 

[Boss]

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

Maniacal... So now you've concocted some hypothetical sinister conspiracy theory in your head and the paranoia is causing you to think Democrats were right about Florida in 2000? Is that what you're telling us?

The chances of Trump landing on exactly 1,237 delegates is near impossible. Generally, candidates who are over the 1,237 before the convention are over by enough of a margin that a few delegates won't matter. There are always a few delegates who are unbound and change their votes at the last minute... usually in support of some third party candidate. This isn't "cheating" it's part of the process.

It sounds to me like you are setting up the scenario for if Trump gets close but fails to get the 1,237 on the first ballot... you can start hollering about cheating and rigged systems.

In 1980, Ronald Reagan's team had crunched the numbers and though they were over the 1,237 needed, it wasn't by a lot. They feared the same thing, that the establishment would work some back room deal to peel off some of his delegates and prevent him from a win on the first ballot. As a strategic move to prevent this, he nominated HW Bush as his VP. Well, it turned out he really didn't need to have done that, he won by a substantial margin. But that's the process, that's how campaigns have to strategize.

So to Trump AND his supporters... Stop the infantile whining about cheating and rigged systems and get the fucking job done. Ya boy is supposed to be good at closing deals... close the fucking deal and shut the fuck up. This incessant whining and moaning about things not being "fairrrr" makes you all sound like a bunch of milquetoast liberals.

I read the story and the delegates decided not to elect Trump because more people voted against him than for him. Technichally that is true but only because you added up both Cruiz and Kasich together which is more than the total vote for Trump but Trump still beats either of them by a landslide. And don't give me this crap that it is the rules and that makes it good because slavery was a rule and that didn't make it OK to do. What is the point of having an election if the party is just going to override it?

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The GOP operates under the same guideline it has operated under since it's inception in 1856, requiring the nominee to secure a MAJORITY of delegates. It has nothing to do with how many people voted for whom. Delegates are awarded in different ways depending on the state party rules, and it's always been like that... it's NEVER been who gets the most votes.

If the rules are tilted in anyone's favor it is the front-runner and candidate who gets a plurality. Trump enjoys many "winner take all" delegates that he did not earn by a vote of the people! He happened to have more votes than anyone else, so he got all the delegates. In some states, if he got over a certain percent of the vote, he won all the delegates, the other candidates got NONE! Is that fairrrrr?

This is SO frustrating to me because we studied about this stuff in like 7th grade Civics... The party nomination process has never been a "pure democratic" process and there is a very good reason for that. It's designed to prevent some fly-by-night populist lynch mob from taking over the party! What if the Bible-thumpers all got together and decided they wanted a Christian GOP? They outnumber every other voting demographic so if we had a "pure democratic" system, they could control the party and we'd always have the Christian-picked candidate as the nominee. Ya think you'd like that?

 

[SuperDemocrat]

In order to stop the RNC from taking away the election from Trump Trump is going to have win overwhelmingly. He is going to lose a few delegates because of cheating. He is going to have to have a lot more than 1237 because of that. It is unfortunate but that is the reality.

I'm beginning to wonder if the democrats were right about Florida in 2000.

Maniacal... So now you've concocted some hypothetical sinister conspiracy theory in your head and the paranoia is causing you to think Democrats were right about Florida in 2000? Is that what you're telling us?

The chances of Trump landing on exactly 1,237 delegates is near impossible. Generally, candidates who are over the 1,237 before the convention are over by enough of a margin that a few delegates won't matter. There are always a few delegates who are unbound and change their votes at the last minute... usually in support of some third party candidate. This isn't "cheating" it's part of the process.

It sounds to me like you are setting up the scenario for if Trump gets close but fails to get the 1,237 on the first ballot... you can start hollering about cheating and rigged systems.

In 1980, Ronald Reagan's team had crunched the numbers and though they were over the 1,237 needed, it wasn't by a lot. They feared the same thing, that the establishment would work some back room deal to peel off some of his delegates and prevent him from a win on the first ballot. As a strategic move to prevent this, he nominated HW Bush as his VP. Well, it turned out he really didn't need to have done that, he won by a substantial margin. But that's the process, that's how campaigns have to strategize.

So to Trump AND his supporters... Stop the infantile whining about cheating and rigged systems and get the fucking job done. Ya boy is supposed to be good at closing deals... close the fucking deal and shut the fuck up. This incessant whining and moaning about things not being "fairrrr" makes you all sound like a bunch of milquetoast liberals.

I read the story and the delegates decided not to elect Trump because more people voted against him than for him. Technichally that is true but only because you added up both Cruiz and Kasich together which is more than the total vote for Trump but Trump still beats either of them by a landslide. And don't give me this crap that it is the rules and that makes it good because slavery was a rule and that didn't make it OK to do. What is the point of having an election if the party is just going to override it?

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The GOP operates under the same guideline it has operated under since it's inception in 1856, requiring the nominee to secure a MAJORITY of delegates. It has nothing to do with how many people voted for whom. Delegates are awarded in different ways depending on the state party rules, and it's always been like that... it's NEVER been who gets the most votes.

If the rules are tilted in anyone's favor it is the front-runner and candidate who gets a plurality. Trump enjoys many "winner take all" delegates that he did not earn by a vote of the people! He happened to have more votes than anyone else, so he got all the delegates. In some states, if he got over a certain percent of the vote, he won all the delegates, the other candidates got NONE! Is that fairrrrr?

This is SO frustrating to me because we studied about this stuff in like 7th grade Civics... The party nomination process has never been a "pure democratic" process and there is a very good reason for that. It's designed to prevent some fly-by-night populist lynch mob from taking over the party! What if the Bible-thumpers all got together and decided they wanted a Christian GOP? They outnumber every other voting demographic so if we had a "pure democratic" system, they could control the party and we'd always have the Christian-picked candidate as the nominee. Ya think you'd like that?

It's designed to prevent some fly-by-night populist lynch mob from taking over the party!

Where is that ever written that the purpose of delegates was to stop some fly by night person? I'm just kind of curious where it is written that the purpose of the rules were for that?