Trump lost New Hampshire in '16 by less than 1%.

[JoeB131]

Why would anyone support Bernie after what he did last time? He knew she, the DNC, and members of the MSM colluded to prevent him the nomination. Yet, he supported her in the general, when she was everything he opposed. He really screwed his supporters.

He’s toast.

Um, no, Bernie lost because he didn't get enough votes and the Super Delegates didn't want to support someone who wasn't even a member of their party.

There are more than enough people to fill the far left lane than Commie Bernie next time, though.

 

[JoeB131]

Let's lose the circular firing squad. Bernie is no commie but I also agree he would be at best, an adequate President.

MILES better than Trump but there are numerous better alternatives

The guys been in Congress for 40 years and has accomplished nothing other than being a Commie POS. he might actually drive me back to being a Republican.

 

[gipper]

Why would anyone support Bernie after what he did last time? He knew she, the DNC, and members of the MSM colluded to prevent him the nomination. Yet, he supported her in the general, when she was everything he opposed. He really screwed his supporters.

He’s toast.

Um, no, Bernie lost because he didn't get enough votes and the Super Delegates didn't want to support someone who wasn't even a member of their party.

There are more than enough people to fill the far left lane than Commie Bernie next time, though.

Yes he lost a rigged election, but D voters are told by their ruling class media, it was a fair election. They believe the Ruling Class. Go figure.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes he lost a rigged election, but D voters are told by their ruling class media, it was a fair election. They believe the Ruling Class. Go figure.

Seems like the only people who think Bernie was aggrieved are the Right Wingers who would have rather faced him than Hillary.

 

[gipper]

Yes he lost a rigged election, but D voters are told by their ruling class media, it was a fair election. They believe the Ruling Class. Go figure.

Seems like the only people who think Bernie was aggrieved are the Right Wingers who would have rather faced him than Hillary.

Wrong again. I am just correcting you, which happens often.

 

[sparky]

And there is NOTHING Congress can (realistically) do to stop it because it is perfectly legal (and positively insane).

They'll be all for it....

Never doubt for a minute that the economy (since 2008) has been run by the Federal Reserve.

since 1913.....

~S~

 

[McRocket]

And there is NOTHING Congress can (realistically) do to stop it because it is perfectly legal (and positively insane).

They'll be all for it....

Never doubt for a minute that the economy (since 2008) has been run by the Federal Reserve.

since 1913.....

~S~

Well, I think the Dems will want a short recession right around the end of 2020 to help them take back the White House.

Then they will tell the Fed to stimulate again please and 'artificially' prop up the economy again.

 

[sparky]

Only because they'll be enough of us that believe partisan politics can turn the economy on a dime Mr Rocket


~S~

 

[JoeB131]

Wrong again. I am just correcting you, which happens often.

Okay, but the only people I see whining about poooooor Commie Bernie are the people who support Der Donnie von Trumpenfuhrer... why do you think that is?

 

[JoeB131]

Well, I think the Dems will want a short recession right around the end of 2020 to help them take back the White House.

Then they will tell the Fed to stimulate again please and 'artificially' prop up the economy again.

I'm curious how the Fed can artificially prop up anything.. If they could, we'd have avoided the 2008 recession.

 

[gipper]

Wrong again. I am just correcting you, which happens often.

Okay, but the only people I see whining about poooooor Commie Bernie are the people who support Der Donnie von Trumpenfuhrer... why do you think that is?

It is most unfortunate what Hillary, the DNC, and the MSM did to Bernie. It is terribly unjust, yet thmey have suffer no consequences because most D voters are focused strictly on Trump. Funny how that happened. No?

 

[ptbw forever]

A new poll shows Bernie Sanders leading Trump by 10% in the state. And 6% with Schultz on the ballot.
No wonder the attacks on Bernie are picking up.
Bernie Takes Early Lead In New Hampshire Democratic Primary; Potential Tight US Senate Race if Gov. Sununu takes on Sen. Shaheen – Emerson College Polling

And the last 2 polls taken had Cankles Clinton up by 1 and 11 points....Lol...polls are useless when skewed.

When the polls closed on election day "Cankles Clinton" was ahead by 2-3% overall. And she won the popular vote by...wait for it



3%.

The polls were remarkably accurate..at least in that instance

They always play dumb about the accuracy of polls. They never want to cite the average of polls.

Who is “they”?

You do realize you are pretending to be a “centrist” still, right?

 

[McRocket]

Well, I think the Dems will want a short recession right around the end of 2020 to help them take back the White House.

Then they will tell the Fed to stimulate again please and 'artificially' prop up the economy again.

I'm curious how the Fed can artificially prop up anything.. If they could, we'd have avoided the 2008 recession.

Their 'All in' policy did not begin until the 2008 Recession when Ben Bernanke was Fed Chairperson. Before that it was Alan Greenspan (who was not in favor of the massive meddling of the Fed post 2007/8).
Plus, the Fed minutes from back then prove how it completely undeerestimated the housing crisis until it was 'too late'.

Fed Misread Crisis in 2008, Records Show

And what can the Fed do? What can't it do?

- The Fed can buy almost any publicly traded company it wants (it bought the then largest insurance company in the world - AIG - back in 2008...just to keep it afloat).

https://seekingalpha.com/article/95810-federal-reserve-buys-aig

This means any corporation that gets into trouble that the Fed feels is 'Too Big To Fail'...it can simply buy it (if it can get hold of enough shares) and dump money into it to keep it going. ANY corporation...and as many as it wishes.

- It can drop rates to zero (and even to below zero) to encourage people to take out more and more loans to stimulate the economy and especially the stock market.

- It can buy up trillions of dollars in toxic assets from banks as it did in 2008 to the tune of $1.7 trillion dollars.

- It can do ALL kinds of things to deliberately send equity markets skyrocketing. It already did over a trillion of QE-type stimuli that has directly seen the stock markets rise up since April 2009.
And that just scratches the surface. They could do what Japan's central bank has been doing for years and buy stocks directly through ETF's. Or just buy stocks directly...as much as they want to. Hundreds of billions, trillions, tens of trillions if they felt like it.

- And since the Fed has that crazy 'full employment' mandate....this means it can do almost anything it wants to almost any part of the economy that it can purchase/effect.

- It can allow the government to run trillion+ dollar deficits by buying the government bonds (if no one else will).

It's tough for an economy to enter a recession when the central bank is willing to keep rates at/below zero and/or prepared to dump literally trillions into the economy per year to keep it afloat.
And as we saw late last year, the Fed can cause people to panic just by hinting at interest rate hikes. And cause them to rejoice with the promise not to hike rates.

IMO, the number one driving force in the US economy since 2008 (by far) has been the Federal Reserve.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

A new poll shows Bernie Sanders leading Trump by 10% in the state. And 6% with Schultz on the ballot.
No wonder the attacks on Bernie are picking up.
Bernie Takes Early Lead In New Hampshire Democratic Primary; Potential Tight US Senate Race if Gov. Sununu takes on Sen. Shaheen – Emerson College Polling

Bernie Sanders is not going to be president

 

[JoeB131]

It is most unfortunate what Hillary, the DNC, and the MSM did to Bernie. It is terribly unjust, yet thmey have suffer no consequences because most D voters are focused strictly on Trump. Funny how that happened. No?

Actually, they treated Commie Bernie better than he deserved, given HE ISN'T EVEN A DEMOCRAT!!!

The problem wasn't that Hillary got to see a question on the Death Penalty before the debate. They should have expected that question to be asked.

The problem was, Commie Bernie's position on the DP isn't mainstream.

 

[gipper]

It is most unfortunate what Hillary, the DNC, and the MSM did to Bernie. It is terribly unjust, yet thmey have suffer no consequences because most D voters are focused strictly on Trump. Funny how that happened. No?

Actually, they treated Commie Bernie better than he deserved, given HE ISN'T EVEN A DEMOCRAT!!!

The problem wasn't that Hillary got to see a question on the Death Penalty before the debate. They should have expected that question to be asked.

The problem was, Commie Bernie's position on the DP isn't mainstream.

Yeah you Dems are a hateful corrupt bunch.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah you Dems are a hateful corrupt bunch.

Let me know when you want to address a point.

 

[gipper]

Yeah you Dems are a hateful corrupt bunch.

Let me know when you want to address a point.

Yes Bernie was for nonintervention, limiting the MIC, greater controls on Wall Street, and curtailing crony capitalism. Sadly, the D Party and specifically Mrs Clinton don’t stand for these things. They and she stand for the exact opposite of these things.

Apparently you do too.

 

[gipper]

A new poll shows Bernie Sanders leading Trump by 10% in the state. And 6% with Schultz on the ballot.
No wonder the attacks on Bernie are picking up.
Bernie Takes Early Lead In New Hampshire Democratic Primary; Potential Tight US Senate Race if Gov. Sununu takes on Sen. Shaheen – Emerson College Polling

Bernie Sanders is not going to be president

We could do far worse. Mrs Clinton for example.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes Bernie was for nonintervention, limiting the MIC, greater controls on Wall Street, and curtailing crony capitalism. Sadly, the D Party and specifically Mrs Clinton don’t stand for these things. They and she stand for the exact opposite of these things.

You mean he was for things that Most Democrats really aren't for.

Most democrats realize that Capitalism is a necessary evil, that sorry, we live in a real world where we sometimes have to take military action, and, no we don't want to pay 70% taxes...

Bernie brought these positions to the primaries, and more Democrats voted for her.

The mistake she made was not squashing him like a bug in the primaries, and now we are dealing with idiots like AOC promising people the moon.