Trump Leveraging Ukraine Military Aid For Dirt On Joe Biden

[progressive hunter]

If any of this is true........Damn, It leaves me speechless.

Please God, let it be true so this imbecile will shut up!

Which one, the OP or madcow?

Of course the OP is ignoring that Biden withheld US funds from Ukraine until they fired a prosecutor that was investigating an oil company his son was associated with.

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If it's illegal for Biden to do it's illegal for tRump to do as well, right?

except biden did it for personal gain and trump is doing it to catch a traitor,,,

Who is the "whistle blower" that is snooping on Trump's calls with foreign leaders? Isn't that espionage?

wouldnt know, I'm not a lawyer,,

 

[edward37]

It seems he did. It's just the tip of the iceberg though. By the time the election is through Trump will pull every dirty trick he can come up with.

Like what, having the FBI launch an investigation into the Democrat campaign and creating a phony "dossier" to slander it?

Will you EVER act like a real American and stop kissing the asses of cheats liars and traitors?

 

[mikegriffith1]

What?! You guys couldn't have cared less when it was revealed that Hillary and the DNC paid a former British agent to go to Russia to try to get dirt on Trump from the Russians! You didn't care when it was found that VP Biden had leaned on Ukraine to halt its investigation into the company that employed his son. But, oh, NOW, NOW you care about Trump using perfectly legal means to try to get the Ukrainian government to check into a corruption case involving Biden!

 

[bripat9643]

It seems he did. It's just the tip of the iceberg though. By the time the election is through Trump will pull every dirty trick he can come up with.

Like what, having the FBI launch an investigation into the Democrat campaign and creating a phony "dossier" to slander it?

Will you EVER act like a real American and stop kissing the asses of cheats liars and traitors?

The Democrat minions are the cheats, liars and minion.

 

[Oddball]

If any of this is true........Damn, It leaves me speechless.

The "dirt" on Creepy Joe is him using his position as veep -and Murican foreign aid loot- to have an investigation into his crooked crackhead son spiked.....The ********** is even on tape bragging about it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You guys couldn't have cared less when it was revealed that Hillary and the DNC paid a former British agent to go to Russia to try to get dirt on Trump from the Russians!

Because that isn't what happened. Yeah, funny how people care less about the fantasies in your head than about reality...how puzzling this must be for you...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If any of this is true........Damn, It leaves me speechless.

The "dirt" on Creepy Joe is him using his position as veep -and Murican foreign aid loot- to have an investigation into his crooked crackhead son spiked.....The ********** is even on tape bragging about it.

And along comes trump's number one bootlicker, with his whataboutism Tourettes....

 

[Oddball]

If any of this is true........Damn, It leaves me speechless.

The "dirt" on Creepy Joe is him using his position as veep -and Murican foreign aid loot- to have an investigation into his crooked crackhead son spiked.....The ********** is even on tape bragging about it.

And along comes trump's number one footlocker, with his whataboutism Tourettes....

It's not whataboutism, jackass...This is at the heart of the disinformation campaign being waged by you tankie agitprop fuckwads.

 

[edward37]

It seems he did. It's just the tip of the iceberg though. By the time the election is through Trump will pull every dirty trick he can come up with.

Like what, having the FBI launch an investigation into the Democrat campaign and creating a phony "dossier" to slander it?

Will you EVER act like a real American and stop kissing the asses of cheats liars and traitors?

The Democrat minions are the cheats, liars and minion.[/QUO
Sorry bri but if you can't see roy cohens pal ,trump the AH is wrong for America you have no hope

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If any of this is true........Damn, It leaves me speechless.

The "dirt" on Creepy Joe is him using his position as veep -and Murican foreign aid loot- to have an investigation into his crooked crackhead son spiked.....The ********** is even on tape bragging about it.

And along comes trump's number one footlocker, with his whataboutism Tourettes....

It's not whataboutism, jackass...This is at the heart of the disinformation campaign being waged by you tankie agitprop fuckwads.

Of course it is whataboutism, and an embarrasisngly stupid nugget of it, at that. No, the Trump nominated and republican confirmed IC IG is not covering for Biden, numbnuts.

 

[Dragonlady]

Once again we have Donald Trump inventing imaginary crimes being committed by Democrats. Crimes for which there is no evidence, and no one is willing to investigate, and those who do investigate, cannot find a crime to be charged. Republicans are still bat shit crazy over Hillary's emails, but the bald fact remains that not one of her Hillary's classified emails has ended up in the hands of anyone who should not have received it. So while she may have been careless in her handling of her emails, she was aparently careful enough to make sure she didn't break any laws.

This is vastly unlike Donald Trump who obstructs justice in plain sight. And at every turn.

 

[MAGAman]

Forty million and still counting. Say Thanks To Democrats!

The Tards started whining in unison about the latest fake scandal so fast they didn't even bother to find out the fake wrongdoing they were supposed to pretend to be outraged over.

 

[Oddball]

Once again we have Donald Trump inventing imaginary crimes being committed by Democrats. Crimes for which there is no evidence, and no one is willing to investigate, and those who do investigate, cannot find a crime to be charged. Republicans are still bat shit crazy over Hillary's emails, but the bald fact remains that not one of her Hillary's classified emails has ended up in the hands of anyone who should not have received it. So while she may have been careless in her handling of her emails, she was aparently careful enough to make sure she didn't break any laws.

This is vastly unlike Donald Trump who obstructs justice in plain sight. And at every turn.

It's not imaginary....Your senile old coot wannabe nominee bragged about the shit.

 

[MAGAman]

If any of this is true........Damn, It leaves me speechless.

"If any of this is true".....

We hear that a lot from the left...

 

[Zorro!]

Once again we have Donald Trump inventing imaginary crimes being committed by Democrats. Crimes for which there is no evidence....

Joe Biden publically bragged that he withheld $1B in US aid from Ukraine and gave them 6 hours to fire the prosecutor who was investigating Hunter Biden or he would leave and the wouldn't get the $1B in US Tax Payer money. Before the 6 hours was up, they fired the Prosecutor investigating Hunter Biden.

... This is vastly unlike Donald Trump who obstructs justice in plain sight. And at every turn.

Comey by his own testimony was not conducting a criminal investigation, he opened a counter-intelligence investigation and repeatedly assured Trump that he was NOT under Criminal Investigation.

Dirty Bob Mueller took over Comey's counter-intelligence investigation after Lying Jim Comey was fired.

Trump never obstructed either investigator, and Obstruction statutes do not apply to Counter-Intelligence investigations because they are not designed to build a criminal case, they are designed to inform the President the President.

Do some research, the Fake News Media has run a 3 year scam on you.

This will get you started:

Obstruction law does not apply to counter intelligence investigations. - Google Search

 

[Dragonlady]

Guliani asked him, not Trump. Oh....and feel free to site the regulations that support your ******* bogus conclusions.

Personally I think Biden is planning on copping an insanity plea because he knows the walls are closing in on his corrupt ass.

It's being reported Giuliani acted on Trump's behest.

Guiliani admitted to Chris Cuomo last night on CNN that he talked to the Ukrainians about investigating whether Joe Biden pulled any strings to stop the investigation against his son, Hunter Biden.



The larger question is, did Trump cancel aid to Ukraine because they refused to investigate Joe Biden.

The investigation is against Hunter Biden, not Joe.

And why wouldn't America expect our allies to investigate criminality?

Trump wants an investigation as to whether JOE BIDEN intervened with the government of the Ukraine to end the investigation of Hunter Biden.

Trump cancelled the defence aid to the Ukraine after the President refused to investigate Joe Biden, and then re-instated the aid when Congress got wind of his requests to the Ukraine, but the whistle blower has direct knowledge of the phone call, and Congress should be told too.

If Biden wants to be President, he needs to get used to investigations of both he and his family members, and anyone he has associated with over the years.

Personally, I think Ukraine should investigate the whole family. And if they ask President Trump to extradite them, I think he should. Biden deserves a chance to face justice on these charges, no?

You realize of course that the Ukrainian President is coming to Washington next week, and that the Congress Leaders can meet with him directly and get his version of events. That's precisely WHY Trump reinstated the aid. Failure to give the promised aid to the Ukrainians would have exposed his extortion.

Trump is already trying to gaslight the American public on this story, just like he did with the Russia investigation. The American people do NOT want foreign leaders investigating American political rivals of the sitting American President. There are good and valid reasons why Trump attempting to extort the Ukrainian government for his own political gain, is an impeachable offence.

Trump is daring Democrats to impeach him. What's really happening is that Trump is just having that bad guy meltdown just before his whole world falls apart.

Wait until he goes for military assistance to the Saudi's. I'm stocking up on popcorn this this dust up.

 

[Bush92]

Ukrainians killed Russian communist in WW2. We should give them military aid today. Looks like Democrats are “anti-Ukrainian” and “pro-Russian.”

 

[Bush92]

It's being reported Giuliani acted on Trump's behest.

Guiliani admitted to Chris Cuomo last night on CNN that he talked to the Ukrainians about investigating whether Joe Biden pulled any strings to stop the investigation against his son, Hunter Biden.



The larger question is, did Trump cancel aid to Ukraine because they refused to investigate Joe Biden.

The investigation is against Hunter Biden, not Joe.

And why wouldn't America expect our allies to investigate criminality?

Trump wants an investigation as to whether JOE BIDEN intervened with the government of the Ukraine to end the investigation of Hunter Biden.

Trump cancelled the defence aid to the Ukraine after the President refused to investigate Joe Biden, and then re-instated the aid when Congress got wind of his requests to the Ukraine, but the whistle blower has direct knowledge of the phone call, and Congress should be told too.

If Biden wants to be President, he needs to get used to investigations of both he and his family members, and anyone he has associated with over the years.

Personally, I think Ukraine should investigate the whole family. And if they ask President Trump to extradite them, I think he should. Biden deserves a chance to face justice on these charges, no?

You realize of course that the Ukrainian President is coming to Washington next week, and that the Congress Leaders can meet with him directly and get his version of events. That's precisely WHY Trump reinstated the aid. Failure to give the promised aid to the Ukrainians would have exposed his extortion.

Trump is already trying to gaslight the American public on this story, just like he did with the Russia investigation. The American people do NOT want foreign leaders investigating American political rivals of the sitting American President. There are good and valid reasons why Trump attempting to extort the Ukrainian government for his own political gain, is an impeachable offence.

Trump is daring Democrats to impeach him. What's really happening is that Trump is just having that bad guy meltdown just before his whole world falls apart.

Wait until he goes for military assistance to the Saudi's. I'm stocking up on popcorn this this dust up.

Trump is solid as a rock.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

The WSJ has it just a bit more nuanced..which is to say..yeah, Trump put the screws on Ukraine..but No, there was no Quid Pro Quo offered.

sleazy..yeah...illegal...IMO..no.

WSJ News Exclusive | Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden’s Son


"President Trump in a July phone call repeatedly pressured the president of Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden’s son, according to people familiar with the matter, urging Volodymyr Zelensky about eight times to work with Rudy Giuliani on a probe that could hamper Mr. Trump’s potential 2020 opponent.
“He told him that he should work with [Mr. Giuliani] on Biden, and that people in Washington wanted to know” if his lawyer’s assertions that Mr. Biden acted improperly as vice president were true, one of the people said. Mr. Giuliani has suggested Mr. Biden’s pressure on Ukraine to fight corruption had to do with an investigation of a gas company for which his son was a director. A Ukrainian official this year said he had no evidence of wrongdoing by Mr. Biden or his son, Hunter Biden.
Mr. Trump in the call didn’t mention a provision of U.S. aid to Ukraine, said this person, who didn’t believe Mr. Trump offered the Ukrainian president any quid-pro-quo for his cooperation on any investigation."

 

[Oddball]

The WSJ has it just a bit more nuanced..which is to say..yeah, Trump put the screws on Ukraine..but No, there was no Quid Pro Quo offered.

sleazy..yeah...illegal...IMO..no.

WSJ News Exclusive | Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden’s Son


"President Trump in a July phone call repeatedly pressured the president of Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden’s son, according to people familiar with the matter, urging Volodymyr Zelensky about eight times to work with Rudy Giuliani on a probe that could hamper Mr. Trump’s potential 2020 opponent.
“He told him that he should work with [Mr. Giuliani] on Biden, and that people in Washington wanted to know” if his lawyer’s assertions that Mr. Biden acted improperly as vice president were true, one of the people said. Mr. Giuliani has suggested Mr. Biden’s pressure on Ukraine to fight corruption had to do with an investigation of a gas company for which his son was a director. A Ukrainian official this year said he had no evidence of wrongdoing by Mr. Biden or his son, Hunter Biden.
Mr. Trump in the call didn’t mention a provision of U.S. aid to Ukraine, said this person, who didn’t believe Mr. Trump offered the Ukrainian president any quid-pro-quo for his cooperation on any investigation."

Yet not a single iota of curiosity as to why the investigation into the crackhead Hunter Biden was deep sixed....