Trump is the ultimate fail for pandemic responses, while China did a great job.

[Desperado]

Reports are now claiming that the Chinese knew of the virus as early as October. That they have lied about the numbers infected and the number of deaths. How anyone can trust the Chinese government is beyond me.

I heard as early as September. By November China was in full scale war with coronavirus. While our government caught sleeping and watching what is going on in China. That’s the reason why the pandemic team that he disbanded was created to begin with to react before it hit US. NOT after it hit us.
You are right we cannot trust Chinese numbers but why are you so concerned? We should worry our own numbers. don’t you think.

This country is heavily intertwined or invested with countries all over the world. If there is an outbreak somewhere at high percentage it can happen here.

It happened that we have an inept amateur president. Results? Look at where and what is happening to this country. We are so screwed. It’s all on Trump

Fuck you twerp, This would have happened no matter who was President. In fact it was the last 5 Presidents before Trump that allowed our manufacturing to be moved to China because of cheap labor. Now all our antibiotics are now made in China, and we do not even make penicillin anymore!

U.S. officials worried about Chinese control of American drug supply

"Basically we've outsourced our entire industry to China," retired Brig. Gen. John Adams told NBC News. "That is a strategic vulnerability."

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Wapasha]

You actually believe the numbers coming out of China?

I know right?? That's some funny shit.

Meanwhile, on Jan 14th, 2020, Xi's China was telling the W.H.O. that COVID-19 was not contagious between humans. Two weeks later, President Trump signed a proclamation banning flights from China, and declaring COVID-19 a National Public Health Emergency.

 

[Wapasha]

How would the Pandemic team had been able to know what was going on when China Government was refusing help when we offered it?

And... wasn't China taking away press privileges from foreign journalists who were trying to report the truth about the effects of the virus in China

 

[Markle]

Reports are now claiming that the Chinese knew of the virus as early as October. That they have lied about the numbers infected and the number of deaths. How anyone can trust the Chinese government is beyond me.

It's not about trusting the Chinese government. It's about how they responded to their own crisis. They worked circles around our response, because Trump made a joke of it, and China didn't. And now its too late for those who have lost their lives in this country. Can you imagine if Obama had dropped the ball this badly? OMG!

 

[Markle]

I heard as early as September. By November China was in full scale war with coronavirus.

 

[BWK]

The good thing about it is, I have a back up. It's called my opening thread. No one can debunk the facts, because it's all coming from Trump's own idiotic mouth. So, there is nothing for you to hang your hat on. You're as naked as a jaybird, trying to apologize for this failure of a human being.

You're a lying chinese communist not an American...hopefully you get your own virus and die.

Your weakness in attacking me, instead of challenging the substance of the argument is a testament to your own lost cause. You're a loser. Enough said.

What is your argument, low IQ dumbass?

In the OP you stupidly claimed that Trump was disinterested in the pandemic, regardless of the fact that he holds press conferences and talks about it every fucking day, you stupid TDS afflicted moron.

THINK!

Easy now, asking Progressives to think is pushing things a bit. They get told what to think by their alphabet media, their talking points and off the go, like little whirling dirvishes!

In this time of crisis, idiots should just STFU voluntarily.

"Crisis?" Trump said it was a hoax and his supporters said it doesn't exist. Believe me, we know who needs to shut up, and it's the idiot running the WH who is first in line.

Not so fast Wu Mao, that's what you said he said. Otherwise you would quote him, or post a link, but you can't, because it does not exist.

Lol! Look at this idiot who puts his foot in his mouth;

[W]hen you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."

Trump says he knew coronavirus was a pandemic ‘long before’ it was declared

President Trump on Tuesday said that he realized that the coronavirus outbreak was a pandemic before the World Health Organization (WHO) labeled it as such last week.

thehill.com

Trump Supporters Are Now Claiming Coronavirus Doesn’t Exist And Nobody Has Died From It

Supporters of Donald Trump are now claiming not only that zero people have died from the coronavirus but that the virus itself doesn’t even exist.

www.politicususa.com

Damn, what a loser you are.

 

[BWK]

America is a free country not a communist dictatorship where lock downs and quarantines are enforced in two different ways. Also you can not trust any numbers coming out of china

You aren't free when you are dead. Congratulations! You managed to prove my case about these Trump cultists. They are the best candidates for natural selection because their priorities are all about worrying about communism.

And your worry is about making sure no one knows China Government is lying about their numbers and hiding the truth!

When you have a Government like China Government that arrests those that were warning about the virus then you do not trust anything else that government has to say but you seem to believe them as long as it help you with your hatred for Trump!

Facts are facts and China Government numbers are not to be trusted and if you fully believe their numbers are correct then you will have no issues walking in the infectious region!

Facts are facts. Our own media in this country is telling us they are loosening restrictions. So go question our own coverage of the facts before you question China. If you were questioning the facts of China, or my own thread, then don't sit there with your finger up your ass. Go do your own research.

There are no facts in Chinese propaganda. Neither in leftist media that are word for word copy of Chinese media.

What's next, you gonna tell us that virus is US made and released in Wuhan?

You and your ilk aren't saying or debating anything. Trolls have no real agenda other than to pretend they have arguments. Facts speak for themselves. You are boring. Scram!

Yes, facts speak for themselves and they say:

China Government arrested innocent people that warned the World about the virus!

China Government has lied about the numbers they are reporting!

China Government failed to contain the virus and a timeline will back all of China Government failures!

So you are full of it when you proclaim China Government did a great job!

Really? Our own media said they are reducing restrictions. What's your counter argument to that?China's Lifting of Restrictions Has Worked, Flu Expert Says

 

[BWK]

America is a free country not a communist dictatorship where lock downs and quarantines are enforced in two different ways. Also you can not trust any numbers coming out of china

You aren't free when you are dead. Congratulations! You managed to prove my case about these Trump cultists. They are the best candidates for natural selection because their priorities are all about worrying about communism.

And your worry is about making sure no one knows China Government is lying about their numbers and hiding the truth!

When you have a Government like China Government that arrests those that were warning about the virus then you do not trust anything else that government has to say but you seem to believe them as long as it help you with your hatred for Trump!

Facts are facts and China Government numbers are not to be trusted and if you fully believe their numbers are correct then you will have no issues walking in the infectious region!

Facts are facts. Our own media in this country is telling us they are loosening restrictions. So go question our own coverage of the facts before you question China. If you were questioning the facts of China, or my own thread, then don't sit there with your finger up your ass. Go do your own research.

What the fuck!?!

I can question why your beloved China Government did not do anything to stop the spread of the virus for nearly two months after they learned about the damn virus!

You do not tell me who I should question and also restrictions are still up because of China Government failure so tell what is next?

The Virus did not originate in China?

China Government never arrested people to hide the fact they were do nothing to slow the virus spread?

China Government claim the first confirm case was Jan and not November?

No, China Government failed and there is nothing you write that will change those facts!

Trump fucked this up royally, despite what you think happened in China. China is lifting some restrictions, which means their response was much better. China's Lifting of Restrictions Has Worked, Flu Expert Says

 

[Markle]

Facts are facts. Our own media in this country is telling us they are loosening restrictions. So go question our own coverage of the facts before you question China. If you were questioning the facts of China, or my own thread, then don't sit there with your finger up your ass. Go do your own research.

REAL research as opposed to your wishful thinking for bad things to happen to our country. Why?

U.S. Intel Confirms China Hid Severity of Coronavirus Outbreak
EDWIN MORA1 Apr 20, 2020 3:44

Communist officials in China have hidden the severity of the coronavirus outbreak within their borders, under-reporting both total cases and fatalities linked to the disease, the U.S. intelligence community reportedly confirmed in a classified report to the White House.
Wuhan, the capital of China’s Hubei province, is the birthplace of the novel coronavirus illness (COVID-19).

During the early stages of the epidemic in China that was later deemed a global pandemic by the World Health Organization (WHO), Beijing hid the extent of the viral outbreak, muzzling and jailing whistleblowers and critics in a move that allowed the disease to gain a firm foothold across the world.
Citing three officials familiar with the classified report issued by the American intelligence community, Bloomberg revealed on Wednesday:

The officials asked not to be identified because the report is secret and declined to detail its contents. But the thrust, they said, is that China’s public reporting on cases and deaths is intentionally incomplete. Two of the officials said the report concludes that China’s numbers are fake.The report was received by the White House last week, one of the officials said.

Health officials detected the first case of the coronavirus in China in mid-November 2019. Yet, the Asian giant has publicly reported fewer cases and fatalities than the United States, where officials diagnosed the first person with coronavirus in late January.

U.S. Intel Confirms China Hid Severity of Coronavirus Outbreak

China hid the severity of the coronavirus outbreak within their borders, under-reporting total cases and fatalities linked to the disease.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Desperado]

America is a free country not a communist dictatorship where lock downs and quarantines are enforced in two different ways. Also you can not trust any numbers coming out of china

You aren't free when you are dead. Congratulations! You managed to prove my case about these Trump cultists. They are the best candidates for natural selection because their priorities are all about worrying about communism.

And your worry is about making sure no one knows China Government is lying about their numbers and hiding the truth!

When you have a Government like China Government that arrests those that were warning about the virus then you do not trust anything else that government has to say but you seem to believe them as long as it help you with your hatred for Trump!

Facts are facts and China Government numbers are not to be trusted and if you fully believe their numbers are correct then you will have no issues walking in the infectious region!

Facts are facts. Our own media in this country is telling us they are loosening restrictions. So go question our own coverage of the facts before you question China. If you were questioning the facts of China, or my own thread, then don't sit there with your finger up your ass. Go do your own research.

What the fuck!?!

I can question why your beloved China Government did not do anything to stop the spread of the virus for nearly two months after they learned about the damn virus!

You do not tell me who I should question and also restrictions are still up because of China Government failure so tell what is next?

The Virus did not originate in China?

China Government never arrested people to hide the fact they were do nothing to slow the virus spread?

China Government claim the first confirm case was Jan and not November?

No, China Government failed and there is nothing you write that will change those facts!

Trump fucked this up royally, despite what you think happened in China. China is lifting some restrictions, which means their response was much better. China's Lifting of Restrictions Has Worked, Flu Expert Says

then do us all a favor and move your ass to China

 

[BWK]

As U.S. tops global tally of coronavirus cases, Trump is at odds with reality We have now surpassed China for Coronavirus cases and our population is lower. Go figure. Just proves how well their leadership has tackled this virus with their mandatory quarantines and preparedness. The lack of interest in this pandemic by Trump has taken its toll with loss of life, coupled with all the lies that lead the people in the wrong direction with their preparedness. He told his base it was a hoax for Gods sake, and they said it doesn't exist. Add that with the failure to not declare the defense production act, 9/11 and Pearl Harbor are going to look like a scratch in comparison, if Trump doesn't act, or gets the hell out of the way. Having bidding wars with companies to make masks is insane for example. They are bidding over making money, while people die. To hell with that failure. The defense production act has to happen yesterday. Trump with this ultimate failure of his, has done enough damage already. Can you believe it, he wants everybody to get together to go find the easter bunny, a few Sundays from now because it will be beautiful. In the mean time, people are dropping like flies, because we either are in short supply, or have no masks, gloves, or ventilators. But ha, let's all walk out of church together on easter Sunday and have an easter egg hunt. What a sick, selfish. monster he is.

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www.msnbc.com

States fight for supplies in absence of federal coordination

Rachel Maddow looks at how the lack of federal leadership on seeing to the medical equipment needs of the states has states competing against each other and even other countries, driving up prices.

www.msnbc.com

trusting China's stats is really foolish

You won't be debunking them, so your point is moot.

ooooook the Dems are taking China's side

No, they're taking their side.

That's so stupid. Taking sides is not what this thread is about. You are a liar.

 

[BWK]

Facts are facts. Our own media in this country is telling us they are loosening restrictions. So go question our own coverage of the facts before you question China. If you were questioning the facts of China, or my own thread, then don't sit there with your finger up your ass. Go do your own research.

REAL research as opposed to your wishful thinking for bad things to happen to our country. Why?

U.S. Intel Confirms China Hid Severity of Coronavirus Outbreak
EDWIN MORA1 Apr 20, 2020 3:44

Communist officials in China have hidden the severity of the coronavirus outbreak within their borders, under-reporting both total cases and fatalities linked to the disease, the U.S. intelligence community reportedly confirmed in a classified report to the White House.
Wuhan, the capital of China’s Hubei province, is the birthplace of the novel coronavirus illness (COVID-19).

During the early stages of the epidemic in China that was later deemed a global pandemic by the World Health Organization (WHO), Beijing hid the extent of the viral outbreak, muzzling and jailing whistleblowers and critics in a move that allowed the disease to gain a firm foothold across the world.
Citing three officials familiar with the classified report issued by the American intelligence community, Bloomberg revealed on Wednesday:

The officials asked not to be identified because the report is secret and declined to detail its contents. But the thrust, they said, is that China’s public reporting on cases and deaths is intentionally incomplete. Two of the officials said the report concludes that China’s numbers are fake.The report was received by the White House last week, one of the officials said.

Health officials detected the first case of the coronavirus in China in mid-November 2019. Yet, the Asian giant has publicly reported fewer cases and fatalities than the United States, where officials diagnosed the first person with coronavirus in late January.

U.S. Intel Confirms China Hid Severity of Coronavirus Outbreak

China hid the severity of the coronavirus outbreak within their borders, under-reporting total cases and fatalities linked to the disease.

www.breitbart.com

I could care less whether China hid the severity of the Coronavirus or not. What my OP is about involves their response to contain it, and Trump fucked that up on so many fronts, we can't even keep up how many different ways he did that. And he is still doing it today, because Trump could care less.

 

[lantern2814]

China did a great job? Well it is easy to drop your number of cases when you just kill everybody you think is infected. Anybody believing anything coming out of there is a special kind of stupid.

 

[Markle]

I could care less whether China hid the severity of the Coronavirus or not. What my OP is about involves their response to contain it, and Trump fucked that up on so many fronts, we can't even keep up how many different ways he did that. And he is still doing it today, because Trump could care less.

Translated, you proudly continue to post your ignorance.

You must feel so smug.

 

[Papageorgio]

Reports are now claiming that the Chinese knew of the virus as early as October. That they have lied about the numbers infected and the number of deaths. How anyone can trust the Chinese government is beyond me.

I heard as early as September. By November China was in full scale war with coronavirus. While our government caught sleeping and watching what is going on in China. That’s the reason why the pandemic team that he disbanded was created to begin with to react before it hit US. NOT after it hit us.
You are right we cannot trust Chinese numbers but why are you so concerned? We should worry our own numbers. don’t you think.

This country is heavily intertwined or invested with countries all over the world. If there is an outbreak somewhere at high percentage it can happen here.

It happened that we have an inept amateur president. Results? Look at where and what is happening to this country. We are so screwed. It’s all on Trump

So you heard about Covid-19 in September? Do you have a link? The reports from China claimed the end of December and the virus was not named until WHO named it in January.

 

[Theowl32]

China Concealed Extent of Virus Outbreak, U.S. Intelligence Says
Nick Wadhams and Jennifer Jacobs
BloombergApril 1, 2020, 1:21 PM EDT

(Bloomberg) -- China has concealed the extent of the coronavirus outbreak in its country, under-reporting both total cases and deaths it’s suffered from the disease, the U.S. intelligence community concluded in a classified report to the White House, according to three U.S. officials.
The officials asked not to be identified because the report is secret, and they declined to detail its contents. But the thrust, they said, is that China’s public reporting on cases and deaths is intentionally incomplete. Two of the officials said the report concludes that China’s numbers are fake.
The report was received by the White House last week, one of the officials said.
The outbreak began in China’s Hubei province in late 2019, but the country has publicly reported only about 82,000 cases and 3,300 deaths, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. That compares to more than 189,000 cases and more than 4,000 deaths in the U.S., which has the largest publicly reported outbreak in the world.
Communications staff at the White House and the Chinese embassy in Washington didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.
“The reality is that we could have been better off if China had been more forthcoming,” Vice President Mike Pence said Wednesday on CNN. “What appears evident now is that long before the world learned in December that China was dealing with this, and maybe as much as a month earlier than that, that the outbreak was real in China.

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We should be preparing ourselves for armageddon. It is what is next and the op is a clear example of the enemy of truth.

Better pick a side

 

[Markle]

I could care less whether China hid the severity of the Coronavirus or not. What my OP is about involves their response to contain it, and Trump fucked that up on so many fronts, we can't even keep up how many different ways he did that. And he is still doing it today, because Trump could care less.

In other words, and no one is surprised, you "could care less" about FACTS.

Second Wave: A County In Central China Is Locked Down Because Of New Coronavirus Cases
JOHN SEXTONPosted at 5:01 pm on April 1, 2020
[...]
Henan province in central China has taken the drastic measure of putting a mid-sized county in total lockdown as authorities try to fend off a second coronavirus wave in the midst of a push to revive the economy.

Curfew-like measures came into effect on Tuesday in Jia county, near the city of Pingdingshan, with the area’s roughly 600,000 residents told to stay home, according to a notice on the country’s official microblog account…

All businesses have been shut down, except utilities, medical suppliers, logistics companies and food processing firms. All shops except supermarkets, hospitals, food markets, petrol stations, pharmacies and hotels have been closed.
[...]

Second wave: A county in central China is locked down because of new coronavirus cases

hotair.com

 

[charwin95]

Reports are now claiming that the Chinese knew of the virus as early as October. That they have lied about the numbers infected and the number of deaths. How anyone can trust the Chinese government is beyond me.

I heard as early as September. By November China was in full scale war with coronavirus. While our government caught sleeping and watching what is going on in China. That’s the reason why the pandemic team that he disbanded was created to begin with to react before it hit US. NOT after it hit us.
You are right we cannot trust Chinese numbers but why are you so concerned? We should worry our own numbers. don’t you think.

This country is heavily intertwined or invested with countries all over the world. If there is an outbreak somewhere at high percentage it can happen here.

It happened that we have an inept amateur president. Results? Look at where and what is happening to this country. We are so screwed. It’s all on Trump

Fuck you twerp, This would have happened no matter who was President. In fact it was the last 5 Presidents before Trump that allowed our manufacturing to be moved to China because of cheap labor. Now all our antibiotics are now made in China, and we do not even make penicillin anymore!

U.S. officials worried about Chinese control of American drug supply

"Basically we've outsourced our entire industry to China," retired Brig. Gen. John Adams told NBC News. "That is a strategic vulnerability."

www.nbcnews.com

Reports are now claiming that the Chinese knew of the virus as early as October. That they have lied about the numbers infected and the number of deaths. How anyone can trust the Chinese government is beyond me.

I heard as early as September. By November China was in full scale war with coronavirus. While our government caught sleeping and watching what is going on in China. That’s the reason why the pandemic team that he disbanded was created to begin with to react before it hit US. NOT after it hit us.
You are right we cannot trust Chinese numbers but why are you so concerned? We should worry our own numbers. don’t you think.

This country is heavily intertwined or invested with countries all over the world. If there is an outbreak somewhere at high percentage it can happen here.

It happened that we have an inept amateur president. Results? Look at where and what is happening to this country. We are so screwed. It’s all on Trump

Fuck you twerp, This would have happened no matter who was President. In fact it was the last 5 Presidents before Trump that allowed our manufacturing to be moved to China because of cheap labor. Now all our antibiotics are now made in China, and we do not even make penicillin anymore!

U.S. officials worried about Chinese control of American drug supply

"Basically we've outsourced our entire industry to China," retired Brig. Gen. John Adams told NBC News. "That is a strategic vulnerability."

www.nbcnews.com

Really? What is penicillin or manufacturing has anything to do with Trump ineptness?

That is true it could happened no matter who is the president.
Its how he handled at the start is what makes the difference.
No matter how much you defend Trump. He fucked this up big time. If I’m wrong. Look at the results facts are facts.

 

[BWK]

I could care less whether China hid the severity of the Coronavirus or not. What my OP is about involves their response to contain it, and Trump fucked that up on so many fronts, we can't even keep up how many different ways he did that. And he is still doing it today, because Trump could care less.

In other words, and no one is surprised, you "could care less" about FACTS.

Second Wave: A County In Central China Is Locked Down Because Of New Coronavirus Cases
JOHN SEXTONPosted at 5:01 pm on April 1, 2020
[...]
Henan province in central China has taken the drastic measure of putting a mid-sized county in total lockdown as authorities try to fend off a second coronavirus wave in the midst of a push to revive the economy.

Curfew-like measures came into effect on Tuesday in Jia county, near the city of Pingdingshan, with the area’s roughly 600,000 residents told to stay home, according to a notice on the country’s official microblog account…

All businesses have been shut down, except utilities, medical suppliers, logistics companies and food processing firms. All shops except supermarkets, hospitals, food markets, petrol stations, pharmacies and hotels have been closed.
[...]

Second wave: A county in central China is locked down because of new coronavirus cases

hotair.com

Good! Then they are doing a good job. Trump could learn a thing or two about how the Chinese do it. Because, under Trump's leadership, he's more worried about his stock portfolio and tax deductions for strip joints.

 

[BWK]

I could care less whether China hid the severity of the Coronavirus or not. What my OP is about involves their response to contain it, and Trump fucked that up on so many fronts, we can't even keep up how many different ways he did that. And he is still doing it today, because Trump could care less.

Translated, you proudly continue to post your ignorance.

You must feel so smug.

That's not an argument challenging any facts, but a failure on your part to lock horns, with the facts from the OP.