Trump is right about the enemy within, the military should be used

[daveman]

Members of the American Communist Party did not shoot anyone. They had the right under the Constitution to express their opinions.

Communist Party USA

Official website of the Communist Party USA, est. 1919.

www.cpusa.org

They do indeed. They do not, however, have the right to work to overthrow the Constitution of the United States.

 

[Skylar]

She's popular because you obedient sheep were told to support her. You didn't have a single bit of choice about it.

Yay democracy!

So all of your babble about why she's popular aside, you acknowledge that Harris is indeed the most popular candidate for president among democrats in 2024.

Which is exactly what I've said all along.

If you're going to agree with me, you don't need 5 posts to do it.

 

[daveman]

So all of your babble about why she's popular aside, you acknowledge that Harris is indeed the most popular candidate for president among democrats in 2024.

Which is exactly what I've said all along.

If you're going to agree with me, you don't need 5 posts to do it.

Okay. WHY is she so popular?

 

[Skylar]

Okay. WHY is she so popular?

Because she has a decent chance of winning. Biden didn't.

 

[daveman]

Because she has a decent chance of winning. Biden didn't.

Wrong. That's not why she's popular.

I already explained why. Do you need me to repeat it?

 

[Natural Citizen]

This is of course totally irrelevant to what the orange rapist was babbling about.

Well. So long as we understand whose watch it's actually happening on.

But commes always claim the other guy is going to do things that they themselves are actually doing.

It's the darndest thing...

It's kind of humorous really. Especially the way Harris popped her pie hole off in that Fox News interview about ''Trump done said he gawna fetch the military awn the citizens. ''

But yet this administration is the one actually doing it.

Granted, the Trump humpers seem to want it, too.

But all that really demonstrates is that the party-of-one is is alive and well.

Most are on the same team in scope. They just can't seem to grasp that fact. It's the darndest thing...

But, yes, it's absolutely relevant in scope

Probably you just aren't a deep enough thinker. And also it wasn't broadcast on the idiot box, so that might justify your ignorance to relevance, too. I guess...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Well. So long as we understand whose watch it's actually happening on.

Nothing happened.

It's the orange rapist suggesting the US military harm american citizens.

And it's not the first time he has done so.

Under Harris, the military is helping hurricane victims.

Spot the difference.

 

[Skylar]

Wrong. That's not why she's popular.

I already explained why. Do you need me to repeat it?

No, you gave us your personal opinion on the matter. MAGA may be indoctrinated to believe that their feelings are facts, but they aren't.

Harris as a presidential candidate was WAY more popular among democrats than Biden was in 2024. Democrat satisfaction for their candidate skyrocketed after Harris become the presumptive nominee.

If it was only 'because they were told to like here', then why didn't dems like Biden 'because they were told to'? Your logic makes no sense.

 

[Hector12]

They do indeed. They do not, however, have the right to work to overthrow the Constitution of the United States.

Does that prohibition extend to Donald Trump? During the Republican primary of 2016 a campaign aide tried to explain the United States Constitution to Trump. Trump responded with incomprehension and indifference.

As president Trump was asked to read out loud part of the Constitution. He had trouble reading it and complained that it was like a foreign language.

 

[Natural Citizen]

It's the orange rapist suggesting the US military harm american citizens.

Well, see, but what had happen whuh that it's under Under the Biden/Harris administration that DoD Directive 5240.01 was just amended to permit the military to use lethal force against the citizens.

To repeat...

Effective September 27, 2024...

DOD INTELLIGENCE AND INTELLIGENCE-RELATED ACTIVITIES AND DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE COMPONENT ASSISTANCE TOLAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND OTHER CIVILAUTHORITIES

What's new...

“Subject to Paragraph 3.1., Defense Intelligence Components may provide personnel to assist a Federal department or agency, including a Federal law enforcement agency, or a State or local law enforcement agency when lives are in danger, in response to a request for such assistance, in accordance with the following approval authorities:

a. Secretary of Defense Approval.

(1) The Secretary of Defense may approve any type of requested permissible assistance described in Paragraph 3.2.

(2) The decision to approve requests for these types of permissible assistance described in Paragraph 3.2. to law enforcement agencies and other civil authorities are reserved to the Secretary of Defense:

(a) Provision of personnel to support response efforts for civil disturbances, which may also require Presidential authorization.

(b) DoD response to chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, and high-yield explosive incidents.

(c) Assistance in responding with assets with potential for lethality, or any situation in which it is reasonably foreseeable that providing the requested assistance may involve the use of force that is likely to result in lethal force, including death or serious bodily injury. It also includes all support to civilian law enforcement officials in situations where a confrontation between civilian law enforcement and civilian individuals or groups is reasonably anticipated.”


Further relevant reading, per the Posse Comitatus Act, 18 U.S. Code § 1385...

“Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army, the Navy, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, or the Space Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

18 U.S. Code § 1385 - Use of Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, and Space Force as posse comitatus

Under Harris, the military is helping hurricane victims.

Spot the difference.

Pole smokers first? Because, you know, they already have so much else to deal with...

Here FEMA Emergency Management Specialist Tyler Atkins states that the agency was prioritizing individuals who consider themselves LGBTQ because he says they are ''already disadvantaged....they already have their own things to deal with. So you add a disaster on top of that, it’s just compounding on itself, he states in an official capacity.

After that, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Senior Emergency Management Specialist Maggie Jarry stated that instead of helping as many people as they can, FEMA should follow a policy of ''disaster equity'' that sees minority communities being given the priority...the shift that we’re seeing right now is a shift in emergency management from utilitarian principles where everything is designed for the greatest good, for the greatest amount of people to disaster equity.''

 

[SeaMajor7]

Copying and pasting a long screed that someone else wrote is lame. Compose your own arguments, if you can.

Ignoring the content and dismissing it without contextual argument is a fool's folly.
Have at it at your own demise.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Under the Biden/Harris administration, DoD Directive 5240.01 was just amended to permit the mlitary to use lethal force against the citizens.

And yet the orange rapist is the only person I see suggesting that the military be used to harm Americans.

 

[daveman]

No, you gave us your personal opinion on the matter. MAGA may be indoctrinated to believe that their feelings are facts, but they aren't.

Harris as a presidential candidate was WAY more popular among democrats than Biden was in 2024. Democrat satisfaction for their candidate skyrocketed after Harris become the presumptive nominee.

If it was only 'because they were told to like here', then why didn't dems like Biden 'because they were told to'? Your logic makes no sense.

Dems DID like Biden -- right up until they were told to like Harris.

Weren't you paying attention?

 

[daveman]

Does that prohibition extend to Donald Trump? During the Republican primary of 2016 a campaign aide tried to explain the United States Constitution to Trump. Trump responded with incomprehension and indifference.

As president Trump was asked to read out loud part of the Constitution. He had trouble reading it and complained that it was like a foreign language.

Is that true, or did you hear it on CNN?

 

[Skylar]

Dems DID like Biden -- right up until they were told to like Harris.

Weren't you paying attention?

If Dems liked Biden, then why was the Dem satisfaction with their nominee so low.....and why did it skyrocket after Harris became the presumptive nominee?

Your 'because they were told to' nonsense doesn't work. If merely telling democrats to like a candidate would result in them doing so, then Biden would have already been popular.

He wasn't.

"About 8 in 10 Democrats say they would be somewhat or very satisfied if Harris became the Democratic nominee for president, according to the survey from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, which was conducted after Biden withdrew from the race.

In a separate AP-NORC poll, taken before Biden dropped out but after his debate against Republican former President Donald Trump, only about 4 in 10 Democrats said they were somewhat or very satisfied that he was the Democratic Party’s likely nominee for president."

About 8 in 10 Democrats are satisfied with prospect of Harris as nominee, AP-NORC poll shows"

By some polls, satisfaction among democrats essentially doubled after Harris become that presumptive nominee.

Your personal opinion is poorly thought through. And contradicted by evidence.

 

[daveman]

And yet the orange rapist is the only person I see suggesting that the military be used to harm Americans.

Biden/Harris did when they authorized the military to fire on Americans.

 

[Natural Citizen]

And yet the orange rapist is the only person I see suggesting that the military be used to harm Americans.

You know, with the amendment to DoD Directive 5240.01 under the Biden/Harris administration permitting/directing the military to use lethal force against the citizens, and with Harris cackling about "Trump say he gawna put the military on the citizens. '' it kind of reminds me of that time that Nuland, talking about Russia, said that the commies always accuse others of wanting to do what they themselves are actually doing.

 

[daveman]

If Dems liked Biden, then why was the Dem satisfaction with their nominee so low.....and why did it skyrocket after Harris became the presumptive nominee?

Your 'because they were told to' nonsense doesn't work. If merely telling democrats to like a candidate would result in them doing so, then Biden would have already been popular.

He wasn't.

"About 8 in 10 Democrats say they would be somewhat or very satisfied if Harris became the Democratic nominee for president, according to the survey from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, which was conducted after Biden withdrew from the race.

In a separate AP-NORC poll, taken before Biden dropped out but after his debate against Republican former President Donald Trump, only about 4 in 10 Democrats said they were somewhat or very satisfied that he was the Democratic Party’s likely nominee for president."

About 8 in 10 Democrats are satisfied with prospect of Harris as nominee, AP-NORC poll shows"

By some polls, satisfaction among democrats essentially doubled after Harris become that presumptive nominee.

Your personal opinion is poorly thought through. And contradicted by evidence.

Interesting timing, don't you think? Biden's polls dropped after his colossal debate failure. What were his approval ratings before, when he was "sharp as a tack"?

 

[Skylar]

Interesting timing, don't you think? Biden's polls dropped after his colossal debate failure. What were his approval ratings before, when he was "sharp as a tack"?

Laughing.....so you just abandoned your entire argument and tried to change the topic.

I accept your concession with all the grace and patience it deserves

 

[Skylar]

You know, with the amendment to DoD Directive 5240.01 under the Biden/Haris administration permitting/directing the military to use lethal force against the citizens, and with Harris cackling about "Trump say he gawna put the military on the citizens. '' it kind of reminds me of that time that Nuland, talking about Russia, said that the commies always accuse others of wanting to do what they themselves are actually doing.

So until DoD Directive 5240.01, the military wasn't permitted to use lethal force when their lives were threatened?