Trump holds news conference on invasion from central America and invasion in general
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11.4 million.
Actually it does work.... and we have tripled our Border Patrol agents and INS agents in the past decade or two.... and refugees and illegal crossings have been reduced greatly due to their presence.....
Under Clinton, we had as many as 1.6 million illegals and refugees trying to cross in a year.... we are down to around 300k, if memory serves....
Everyone is having a fit over troops shooting at illegals.
federal law restricts the military from engaging in law enforcement on American soil.
What they are doing;
providing helicopter support for border missions, installing concrete barriers and repairing and maintaining vehicles. The new troops will include military police, combat engineers and helicopter companies equipped with advanced technology to help detect people at night.
That means the troops will not be allowed to detain immigrants, seize drugs from smugglers or have any direct involvement in stopping a migrant caravan .
federal law restricts the military from engaging in law enforcement on American soil.
What they are doing;
providing helicopter support for border missions, installing concrete barriers and repairing and maintaining vehicles. The new troops will include military police, combat engineers and helicopter companies equipped with advanced technology to help detect people at night.
That means the troops will not be allowed to detain immigrants, seize drugs from smugglers or have any direct involvement in stopping a migrant caravan .
Posse Comitatus Act
Opinion | Trump’s troop buildup at the border violates centuries of Anglo-American law
The principle is the prohibition of military involvement in domestic law enforcement. Its abridgement was prominent among the charges laid on King George in the Declaration of Independence — Jefferson wrote that the crown “has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.” And its common law roots are far stronger and older, dating at least to Magna Carta.
The legal provision that encapsulates the principle is the Posse Comitatus Act. The law was passed in 1878, following widespread, heavy-handed use of Union troops to exercise typical law enforcement functions in the former Confederate states. In its current form, it provides criminal penalties for anyone who “willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a posse comitatus” — that is, as an auxiliary of law enforcement — “or otherwise to execute the laws.” There is an exception for circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or an act of Congress, which Congress invoked for example in authorizing limited military involvement in the war on drugs.
Its obscure name and rare deployment notwithstanding, the Posse Comitatus Act enshrines the bedrock democratic idea that civil society is separate from and superior to military force, and that regulation of citizens by military is antithetical to liberty.
Opinion | Trump’s troop buildup at the border violates centuries of Anglo-American law
The principle is the prohibition of military involvement in domestic law enforcement. Its abridgement was prominent among the charges laid on King George in the Declaration of Independence — Jefferson wrote that the crown “has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.” And its common law roots are far stronger and older, dating at least to Magna Carta.
The legal provision that encapsulates the principle is the Posse Comitatus Act. The law was passed in 1878, following widespread, heavy-handed use of Union troops to exercise typical law enforcement functions in the former Confederate states. In its current form, it provides criminal penalties for anyone who “willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a posse comitatus” — that is, as an auxiliary of law enforcement — “or otherwise to execute the laws.” There is an exception for circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or an act of Congress, which Congress invoked for example in authorizing limited military involvement in the war on drugs.
Its obscure name and rare deployment notwithstanding, the Posse Comitatus Act enshrines the bedrock democratic idea that civil society is separate from and superior to military force, and that regulation of citizens by military is antithetical to liberty.
1. 11 million is an old number based on shit.
2. Wow. 300 k a year more, and you consider that good enough?
3. If we let the caravan though, we will have a new method on invasion.
It's just theater for the rubes.
Posse Comitatus Act
Opinion | Trump’s troop buildup at the border violates centuries of Anglo-American law
The principle is the prohibition of military involvement in domestic law enforcement. Its abridgement was prominent among the charges laid on King George in the Declaration of Independence — Jefferson wrote that the crown “has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.” And its common law roots are far stronger and older, dating at least to Magna Carta.
The legal provision that encapsulates the principle is the Posse Comitatus Act. The law was passed in 1878, following widespread, heavy-handed use of Union troops to exercise typical law enforcement functions in the former Confederate states. In its current form, it provides criminal penalties for anyone who “willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a posse comitatus” — that is, as an auxiliary of law enforcement — “or otherwise to execute the laws.” There is an exception for circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or an act of Congress, which Congress invoked for example in authorizing limited military involvement in the war on drugs.
Its obscure name and rare deployment notwithstanding, the Posse Comitatus Act enshrines the bedrock democratic idea that civil society is separate from and superior to military force, and that regulation of citizens by military is antithetical to liberty.
Opinion | Trump’s troop buildup at the border violates centuries of Anglo-American law
The principle is the prohibition of military involvement in domestic law enforcement. Its abridgement was prominent among the charges laid on King George in the Declaration of Independence — Jefferson wrote that the crown “has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.” And its common law roots are far stronger and older, dating at least to Magna Carta.
The legal provision that encapsulates the principle is the Posse Comitatus Act. The law was passed in 1878, following widespread, heavy-handed use of Union troops to exercise typical law enforcement functions in the former Confederate states. In its current form, it provides criminal penalties for anyone who “willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a posse comitatus” — that is, as an auxiliary of law enforcement — “or otherwise to execute the laws.” There is an exception for circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or an act of Congress, which Congress invoked for example in authorizing limited military involvement in the war on drugs.
Its obscure name and rare deployment notwithstanding, the Posse Comitatus Act enshrines the bedrock democratic idea that civil society is separate from and superior to military force, and that regulation of citizens by military is antithetical to liberty.
The military isn't going there to protect the border. They going they're to get out the vote. To placate the pathetic fears of abject cowards.
SobieskiSavedEurope
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It's not racist beliefs over skin color which bother me, it's massacres, killings & genocides..
Racism is a good thing in discipline, to protect ones heritage & protect against the GREAT FAILURES of Balkanization.
Massacres are always wrong, however.
SobieskiSavedEurope
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America's Hicks are really violent, because of their dubious Anglo-Saxon heritages.
Notice, they NEVER come up with solutions LIKE SHOOT WARNING SHOTS.
Be it here with the Illegal Caravan, or with Zimmerman vs Trayvon a simple WARNING SHOT should scare them off.
But, that doesn't make sense to these people, they're ALWAYS calling for more blood, death & destruction.
Now, I'm actually an advocate of gun rights & racism rights.
HOWEVER, these Hicks need to be talked down to, because they're violent trash.
They're PUSHING the limits of disciplined & sensible gun rights & racism rights.
Anglo-Saxons can't help themselves they've ALWAYS got to be Looting & Shooting.
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Billy_Bob
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LOL
You folks ignore the news when it doesn't fit your agenda... The Mexican government detained over 100 MS13 and ME men..
11,4 million is based on 2015, 3 different sources that track it
Calm down, at least 90% of those applying for refugee asylum, will be turned down in their hearings, and returned to their native land.
we need to staff the border crossings and the courts, to process quickly the ones that actually make it here....
Billy_Bob
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Irrelevant... These are foreigner invaders
this article is very very informative, for anyone that wants to learn more:
Illegal Immigration Statistics - FactCheck.org
That’s an 81.5 percent decline in the number of apprehensions between the peak in 2000 and 2017.
We can also look at how the figures have changed over the past several years.
Under the Obama administration, the yearly apprehensions on the Southwest border declined by 35 percent from calendar year 2008, the year before President Obama took office, through the end of 2016. In President Donald Trump’s first full year in office, the apprehensions declined by 43 percent, from calendar year 2016 to 2017.
On a monthly basis, the apprehensions decreased significantly during the first six months of Trump’s tenure and then began to rise back in line with the level of apprehensions from 2016.
Illegal Immigration Statistics - FactCheck.org
That’s an 81.5 percent decline in the number of apprehensions between the peak in 2000 and 2017.
We can also look at how the figures have changed over the past several years.
Under the Obama administration, the yearly apprehensions on the Southwest border declined by 35 percent from calendar year 2008, the year before President Obama took office, through the end of 2016. In President Donald Trump’s first full year in office, the apprehensions declined by 43 percent, from calendar year 2016 to 2017.
On a monthly basis, the apprehensions decreased significantly during the first six months of Trump’s tenure and then began to rise back in line with the level of apprehensions from 2016.
SobieskiSavedEurope
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It was wrong when the IDF did it & similarly it would be wrong when the USA military does it, IF they do.
I support CIVILIZATION, something foreign to the nations West of Eastern Europe.
You don't promote Civilization with terroristic massacres, you don't promote Civilization by supporting Third-Worlders immigrating into your nation, you don't promote Civilization by cutting taxes, or by allowing Muslim extremists in your countries.
It seems that 99% of Western Europeans are ANTI-CIvilization, ESPECIALLY Americans.
The more West, and West you go as "Whites" from Poland to America, it becomes more, and more Liberal & savage, coincidentally from Poland also East you get more savage too.
Poland's the center of the civilized & Conservative World.
We have every right to judge "Undesirable Barbarians" but we don't have the rights to genocide, or massacre, NO ONE should have such rights.
You and the murderer Bowers seem to think so....
------------------------------------------- these people in the invader columns probably hunt with rocks all the time . They are good at throwing rocks as they have been throwing rocks since a very early age so are well practiced at throwing rock . After all , many , most of these invader people [indians] are really 'stone age' people !!-------------------------------------------- maybe , maybe not . Plus these third worlders are good practiced rock throwers . They know how to throws rocks because they probably are not allowed to own firearms . So they learn how to throw rocks from an early age . Rocks can kill American Soldiers Coyote .
You don't like it to dam bad.
And it has nothing to do with what the fk color thier skin is....
COME HERE LEGALLY first a.hole
Or we'll shoot you.
You don't need to kill a caravan of desperate people to have good border control policies.
---------------------------- GOOD , Whatever works eh DBlack !!
danielpalos
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Our drug war is unconstitutional.
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