Trump goes scorched earth in RNC 2020 acceptance speech

[Mac1958]

The rioters are doing a great job of helping Trump, that's for sure.

Democrats have been condemning violence continuously... GOP tactic has been to try and label the violence on Democrats...

But they make no comment about violence from extreme right wing...

Pence uses Biden’s comments on police funding out of context

Former Vice President Joe Biden has rejected the notion of "defunding the police," but that hasn’t stopped his critics f

www.politifact.com

View attachment 381106

Biden has repeatedly denied interest in defunding the police, a position supported by the Black Lives Matter movement, and has instead proposed a $300 million cash infusion to support community policing and employing more social workers alongside police officers.

Even the way Police in America handle rioters is archaic compared to UK and EU... Europe has been dealing protestors for years the US way of handling it seems just bizarre... We see armoured vehicles which were designed for low intensity war/ guerrilla warfare...
Where are the water cannons?
Where are the cameras? I mean there should be drones all over the place, screwed to walls, van below has a telescopic...


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First thing is you allow protestors to protest and tell the organisers if stays peaceful you can stay there all night and for days... If someone misbehaves try and sort out internally before police get involved... In Europe the protest organisers and police work hand in hand, they work together to keep peaceful...
there are always elements that want violence, Anarchists in Europe turn out to these things all the time... Organisers highlight them quickly and usually first thing is to get them to remove face covering so Camera can identify them... Any violence can be traced to them later.

Cops don't usually tackle the riot directly but contain them... They remove innocent people... Then detain on mass while taking details or arrest... They will be arresting people for 3 weeks afterwards... Protestors are usually very supportive as it keeps things peaceful and doesn't hijack there agenda... This is how you get a 100,000+ people on streets protesting, that change things...

I've been watching this, and I've seen very little criticism from the Left, especially when compared to their criticisms of the other side.

Has the Left criticized its own more than Trumpsters have? Yes, of course, but zero is a pretty low bar.

 

[JLW]

The rioters are doing a great job of helping Trump, that's for sure.

Democrats have been condemning violence continuously... GOP tactic has been to try and label the violence on Democrats...

But they make no comment about violence from extreme right wing...

Pence uses Biden’s comments on police funding out of context

Former Vice President Joe Biden has rejected the notion of "defunding the police," but that hasn’t stopped his critics f

www.politifact.com

View attachment 381106

Biden has repeatedly denied interest in defunding the police, a position supported by the Black Lives Matter movement, and has instead proposed a $300 million cash infusion to support community policing and employing more social workers alongside police officers.

Even the way Police in America handle rioters is archaic compared to UK and EU... Europe has been dealing protestors for years the US way of handling it seems just bizarre... We see armoured vehicles which were designed for low intensity war/ guerrilla warfare...
Where are the water cannons?
Where are the cameras? I mean there should be drones all over the place, screwed to walls, van below has a telescopic...


View attachment 381109

First thing is you allow protestors to protest and tell the organisers if stays peaceful you can stay there all night and for days... If someone misbehaves try and sort out internally before police get involved... In Europe the protest organisers and police work hand in hand, they work together to keep peaceful...
there are always elements that want violence, Anarchists in Europe turn out to these things all the time... Organisers highlight them quickly and usually first thing is to get them to remove face covering so Camera can identify them... Any violence can be traced to them later.

Cops don't usually tackle the riot directly but contain them... They remove innocent people... Then detain on mass while taking details or arrest... They will be arresting people for 3 weeks afterwards... Protestors are usually very supportive as it keeps things peaceful and doesn't hijack there agenda... This is how you get a 100,000+ people on streets protesting, that change things...

I've been watching this, and I've seen very little criticism from the Left, especially when compared to their criticisms of the other side.

Has the Left criticized its own more than Trumpsters have? Yes, of course, but zero is a pretty low bar.

The Blake family has condemned the violence in Kenosha. Most Democrats condemn the violence. You are right to the degree that this rioters may help the Trump cause. Kellyanne has admitted as much. The riots need to stop and the professional agitators arrested. However, right-wing extremists have also contributed to the violence. Where are Trump and Trumpers calling them out for their violence?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Our wingers are killing us. In real time.

AND YOU DONT STAND UP TO THEM

Of course I do. The problem is that there are now so many, on both ends. You appear to be multiplying, like some kind of virus.

You won't even call them what they really are. You refuse to identify their cause. You can't stand up to Marxist Revolutionaries if you live in denial about their real objective, which you support by voting for the candidates they put forward in the party they infest. Tell me I am wrong.

You're wrong. But I'm not trying to convince you of anything. No reason to waste the time.

C'mon Mac. Just say the words. It's not hard. I'll say it with you... Commu...c'mon Mac. You can say it. Communi...almost there.

 

[Mac1958]

Our wingers are killing us. In real time.

AND YOU DONT STAND UP TO THEM

Of course I do. The problem is that there are now so many, on both ends. You appear to be multiplying, like some kind of virus.

You won't even call them what they really are. You refuse to identify their cause. You can't stand up to Marxist Revolutionaries if you live in denial about their real objective, which you support by voting for the candidates they put forward in the party they infest. Tell me I am wrong.

You're wrong. But I'm not trying to convince you of anything. No reason to waste the time.

C'mon Mac. Just say the words. It's not hard. I'll say it with you... Commu...c'mon Mac. You can say it. Communi...almost there.

Sure, okay, I'm a hardcore communist and I want to see the whole world go commie and I look great in red.

Anything else?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Has the Left criticized its own more than Trumpsters have? Yes, of course, but zero is a pretty low bar.

Have you called them out and told them that America will never be a socialist/communist/marxist nation and to get the fuck out of your party?

If not, you are doing NOTHING!!!!

 

[Mac1958]

Has the Left criticized its own more than Trumpsters have? Yes, of course, but zero is a pretty low bar.

Have you called them out and told them that America will never be a socialist/communist/marxist nation and to get the fuck out of your party?

If not, you are doing NOTHING!!!!

That's because I'm a commie!

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Our wingers are killing us. In real time.

AND YOU DONT STAND UP TO THEM

Of course I do. The problem is that there are now so many, on both ends. You appear to be multiplying, like some kind of virus.

You won't even call them what they really are. You refuse to identify their cause. You can't stand up to Marxist Revolutionaries if you live in denial about their real objective, which you support by voting for the candidates they put forward in the party they infest. Tell me I am wrong.

You're wrong. But I'm not trying to convince you of anything. No reason to waste the time.

C'mon Mac. Just say the words. It's not hard. I'll say it with you... Commu...c'mon Mac. You can say it. Communi...almost there.

Sure, okay, I'm a hardcore communist and I want to see the whole world go commie and I look great in red.

Anything else?

I am not saying you're a commie doofus. You won't call commies commies when they are right in your fucking face. THAT is my complaint.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Our wingers are killing us. In real time.

AND YOU DONT STAND UP TO THEM

Of course I do. The problem is that there are now so many, on both ends. You appear to be multiplying, like some kind of virus.

You won't even call them what they really are. You refuse to identify their cause. You can't stand up to Marxist Revolutionaries if you live in denial about their real objective, which you support by voting for the candidates they put forward in the party they infest. Tell me I am wrong.

You're wrong. But I'm not trying to convince you of anything. No reason to waste the time.

C'mon Mac. Just say the words. It's not hard. I'll say it with you... Commu...c'mon Mac. You can say it. Communi...almost there.

Sure, okay, I'm a hardcore communist and I want to see the whole world go commie and I look great in red.

Anything else?

Now say it like you mean it

 

[CowboyTed]

The rioters are doing a great job of helping Trump, that's for sure.

Democrats have been condemning violence continuously... GOP tactic has been to try and label the violence on Democrats...

But they make no comment about violence from extreme right wing...

Pence uses Biden’s comments on police funding out of context

Former Vice President Joe Biden has rejected the notion of "defunding the police," but that hasn’t stopped his critics f

www.politifact.com

View attachment 381106

Biden has repeatedly denied interest in defunding the police, a position supported by the Black Lives Matter movement, and has instead proposed a $300 million cash infusion to support community policing and employing more social workers alongside police officers.

Even the way Police in America handle rioters is archaic compared to UK and EU... Europe has been dealing protestors for years the US way of handling it seems just bizarre... We see armoured vehicles which were designed for low intensity war/ guerrilla warfare...
Where are the water cannons?
Where are the cameras? I mean there should be drones all over the place, screwed to walls, van below has a telescopic...


View attachment 381109

First thing is you allow protestors to protest and tell the organisers if stays peaceful you can stay there all night and for days... If someone misbehaves try and sort out internally before police get involved... In Europe the protest organisers and police work hand in hand, they work together to keep peaceful...
there are always elements that want violence, Anarchists in Europe turn out to these things all the time... Organisers highlight them quickly and usually first thing is to get them to remove face covering so Camera can identify them... Any violence can be traced to them later.

Cops don't usually tackle the riot directly but contain them... They remove innocent people... Then detain on mass while taking details or arrest... They will be arresting people for 3 weeks afterwards... Protestors are usually very supportive as it keeps things peaceful and doesn't hijack there agenda... This is how you get a 100,000+ people on streets protesting, that change things...

I've been watching this, and I've seen very little criticism from the Left, especially when compared to their criticisms of the other side.

Has the Left criticized its own more than Trumpsters have? Yes, of course, but zero is a pretty low bar.

True...

Pelosi was very quick in condemning violence... The last thing Democrats want is violence... While it is peaceful they are on a winner all day...

These are large and pretty disorganised protest by international standards... Europe has a good long history with peaceful mass marches and the coordination with the police is essential... If a march turns violent the blame is given squarely at bot organisers and police pretty equally... Marches are meant to be safe and mainstay of any democracy...

Now there is problems with the present marches, they don't have start and end times with a well communicated route... What is being experienced is a disparate protests and the police haven't seem to have control. That 17 year old with a gun on the street should be a MASSIVE red flag.
Think about it... Northern Ireland have been rioting for decades. There is two side rioting and the police there have been dealing it for years... If the Nationalists are rioting do you think they would let the loyalist with guns patrol the streets? They would have outright gun warfare with little to no clue who started it...
If someone had a gun and shot that 17 year old was he in the right or wrong.. I think he could claim self defence but so could the guy who shoots him... Full scale gun battle... Then you need real experts, UN peacekeepers(European Ones), the bravest guys I have ever met, they can tell you stories that are crazy...

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

That BLM thread you started a while back is proof, Mac. Even when I and others gave you indisputable proof you didn't seem it acknowledge what we showed you.

 

[DBA]

The rioters are doing a great job of helping Trump, that's for sure.

Democrats have been condemning violence continuously... GOP tactic has been to try and label the violence on Democrats...

But they make no comment about violence from extreme right wing...

Pence uses Biden’s comments on police funding out of context

Former Vice President Joe Biden has rejected the notion of "defunding the police," but that hasn’t stopped his critics f

www.politifact.com

View attachment 381106

Biden has repeatedly denied interest in defunding the police, a position supported by the Black Lives Matter movement, and has instead proposed a $300 million cash infusion to support community policing and employing more social workers alongside police officers.

Even the way Police in America handle rioters is archaic compared to UK and EU... Europe has been dealing protestors for years the US way of handling it seems just bizarre... We see armoured vehicles which were designed for low intensity war/ guerrilla warfare...
Where are the water cannons?
Where are the cameras? I mean there should be drones all over the place, screwed to walls, van below has a telescopic...


View attachment 381109

First thing is you allow protestors to protest and tell the organisers if stays peaceful you can stay there all night and for days... If someone misbehaves try and sort out internally before police get involved... In Europe the protest organisers and police work hand in hand, they work together to keep peaceful...
there are always elements that want violence, Anarchists in Europe turn out to these things all the time... Organisers highlight them quickly and usually first thing is to get them to remove face covering so Camera can identify them... Any violence can be traced to them later.

Cops don't usually tackle the riot directly but contain them... They remove innocent people... Then detain on mass while taking details or arrest... They will be arresting people for 3 weeks afterwards... Protestors are usually very supportive as it keeps things peaceful and doesn't hijack there agenda... This is how you get a 100,000+ people on streets protesting, that change things...

I've been watching this, and I've seen very little criticism from the Left, especially when compared to their criticisms of the other side.

Has the Left criticized its own more than Trumpsters have? Yes, of course, but zero is a pretty low bar.

The Blake family has condemned the violence in Kenosha. Most Democrats condemn the violence. You are right to the degree that this rioters may help the Trump cause. Kellyanne has admitted as much. The riots need to stop and the professional agitators arrested. However, right-wing extremists have also contributed to the violence. Where are Trump and Trumpers calling them out for their violence?

The left-wing protests are the impetus of the violence. The left-wing dominated news media mis-reports incidents to create the protests. Case in point, they didn't initially report that Blake had a knife which he was asked to drop and that he had been tased previously(resisting arrest). They may report this now to some degree, but the riots started the day after the shooting. The know exactly what they are doing and they think it hurts Trump, but in reality, it is hurting Biden.

 

[Mac1958]

The rioters are doing a great job of helping Trump, that's for sure.

Democrats have been condemning violence continuously... GOP tactic has been to try and label the violence on Democrats...

But they make no comment about violence from extreme right wing...

Pence uses Biden’s comments on police funding out of context

Former Vice President Joe Biden has rejected the notion of "defunding the police," but that hasn’t stopped his critics f

www.politifact.com

View attachment 381106

Biden has repeatedly denied interest in defunding the police, a position supported by the Black Lives Matter movement, and has instead proposed a $300 million cash infusion to support community policing and employing more social workers alongside police officers.

Even the way Police in America handle rioters is archaic compared to UK and EU... Europe has been dealing protestors for years the US way of handling it seems just bizarre... We see armoured vehicles which were designed for low intensity war/ guerrilla warfare...
Where are the water cannons?
Where are the cameras? I mean there should be drones all over the place, screwed to walls, van below has a telescopic...


View attachment 381109

First thing is you allow protestors to protest and tell the organisers if stays peaceful you can stay there all night and for days... If someone misbehaves try and sort out internally before police get involved... In Europe the protest organisers and police work hand in hand, they work together to keep peaceful...
there are always elements that want violence, Anarchists in Europe turn out to these things all the time... Organisers highlight them quickly and usually first thing is to get them to remove face covering so Camera can identify them... Any violence can be traced to them later.

Cops don't usually tackle the riot directly but contain them... They remove innocent people... Then detain on mass while taking details or arrest... They will be arresting people for 3 weeks afterwards... Protestors are usually very supportive as it keeps things peaceful and doesn't hijack there agenda... This is how you get a 100,000+ people on streets protesting, that change things...

I've been watching this, and I've seen very little criticism from the Left, especially when compared to their criticisms of the other side.

Has the Left criticized its own more than Trumpsters have? Yes, of course, but zero is a pretty low bar.

True...

Pelosi was very quick in condemning violence... The last thing Democrats want is violence... While it is peaceful they are on a winner all day...

These are large and pretty disorganised protest by international standards... Europe has a good long history with peaceful mass marches and the coordination with the police is essential... If a march turns violent the blame is given squarely at bot organisers and police pretty equally... Marches are meant to be safe and mainstay of any democracy...

Now there is problems with the present marches, they don't have start and end times with a well communicated route... What is being experienced is a disparate protests and the police haven't seem to have control. That 17 year old with a gun on the street should be a MASSIVE red flag.
Think about it... Northern Ireland have been rioting for decades. There is two side rioting and the police there have been dealing it for years... If the Nationalists are rioting do you think they would let the loyalist with guns patrol the streets? They would have outright gun warfare with little to no clue who started it...
If someone had a gun and shot that 17 year old was he in the right or wrong.. I think he could claim self defence but so could the guy who shoots him... Full scale gun battle... Then you need real experts, UN peacekeepers(European Ones), the bravest guys I have ever met, they can tell you stories that are crazy...

This just a REALLY SHITTY time for this. The WORST POSSIBLE time.

And I wonder if they have any idea how much they're helping Trump, or if they're so lost in their rage that they think it hurts him.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The rioters are doing a great job of helping Trump, that's for sure.

Democrats have been condemning violence continuously... GOP tactic has been to try and label the violence on Democrats...

But they make no comment about violence from extreme right wing...

Pence uses Biden’s comments on police funding out of context

Former Vice President Joe Biden has rejected the notion of "defunding the police," but that hasn’t stopped his critics f

www.politifact.com

View attachment 381106

Biden has repeatedly denied interest in defunding the police, a position supported by the Black Lives Matter movement, and has instead proposed a $300 million cash infusion to support community policing and employing more social workers alongside police officers.

Even the way Police in America handle rioters is archaic compared to UK and EU... Europe has been dealing protestors for years the US way of handling it seems just bizarre... We see armoured vehicles which were designed for low intensity war/ guerrilla warfare...
Where are the water cannons?
Where are the cameras? I mean there should be drones all over the place, screwed to walls, van below has a telescopic...


View attachment 381109

First thing is you allow protestors to protest and tell the organisers if stays peaceful you can stay there all night and for days... If someone misbehaves try and sort out internally before police get involved... In Europe the protest organisers and police work hand in hand, they work together to keep peaceful...
there are always elements that want violence, Anarchists in Europe turn out to these things all the time... Organisers highlight them quickly and usually first thing is to get them to remove face covering so Camera can identify them... Any violence can be traced to them later.

Cops don't usually tackle the riot directly but contain them... They remove innocent people... Then detain on mass while taking details or arrest... They will be arresting people for 3 weeks afterwards... Protestors are usually very supportive as it keeps things peaceful and doesn't hijack there agenda... This is how you get a 100,000+ people on streets protesting, that change things...

I've been watching this, and I've seen very little criticism from the Left, especially when compared to their criticisms of the other side.

Has the Left criticized its own more than Trumpsters have? Yes, of course, but zero is a pretty low bar.

True...

Pelosi was very quick in condemning violence... The last thing Democrats want is violence... While it is peaceful they are on a winner all day...

These are large and pretty disorganised protest by international standards... Europe has a good long history with peaceful mass marches and the coordination with the police is essential... If a march turns violent the blame is given squarely at bot organisers and police pretty equally... Marches are meant to be safe and mainstay of any democracy...

Now there is problems with the present marches, they don't have start and end times with a well communicated route... What is being experienced is a disparate protests and the police haven't seem to have control. That 17 year old with a gun on the street should be a MASSIVE red flag.
Think about it... Northern Ireland have been rioting for decades. There is two side rioting and the police there have been dealing it for years... If the Nationalists are rioting do you think they would let the loyalist with guns patrol the streets? They would have outright gun warfare with little to no clue who started it...
If someone had a gun and shot that 17 year old was he in the right or wrong.. I think he could claim self defence but so could the guy who shoots him... Full scale gun battle... Then you need real experts, UN peacekeepers(European Ones), the bravest guys I have ever met, they can tell you stories that are crazy...

This just a REALLY SHITTY time for this. The WORST POSSIBLE time.

And I wonder if they have any idea how much they're helping Trump, or if they're so lost in their rage that they think it hurts him.

It's a combo of that and some politicians over-playing their hand. The Seattle Mayor (Ms. Summer of Love) comes to mind.

 

[toobfreak]

I tuned out Trump’s screed. Trump mentioned Biden approximately 50 times. Trump engaged in nothing but hyperbole and lies.

So in effect, you are commenting on and critiquing something you never heard and know nothing about.

It was the 2nd longest acceptance speech in history, you didn't listen to a minute of it, but you know that it was nothing but a pile of rubbish.

Can't say that surprises me.

 

[DBA]

If someone had a gun and shot that 17 year old was he in the right or wrong.. I think he could claim self defence but so could the guy who shoots him

You can't win the self-defense argument if you shoot someone without a threat or provocation. Walking down the street with a gun is not enough, on either side. In the case of the 17-year old, he was attacked. The mob was chasing him, he was hit in the head by a skate board and one of the protesters was pointing a pistol at him...point blank. That is quite a bit different.

 

[JLW]

I tuned out Trump’s screed. Trump mentioned Biden approximately 50 times. Trump engaged in nothing but hyperbole and lies.

So in effect, you are commenting on and critiquing something you never heard and know nothing about.

It was the 2nd longest acceptance speech in history, you didn't listen to a minute of it, but you know that it was nothing but a pile of rubbish.

Can't say that surprises me.

Are you capable of reading English? I did not write I did not watch any part of the speech, I wrote I tuned it out. Yeah after the first 45 minutes I has enough of his trash and turned it off. Next time think Before you post.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

just a REALLY SHITTY time for this. The WORST POSSIBLE time

It's a GREAT time. God has hardened the hearts of the left to prepare them for destruction

 

[CowboyTed]

Our wingers are killing us. In real time.

AND YOU DONT STAND UP TO THEM

Of course I do. The problem is that there are now so many, on both ends. You appear to be multiplying, like some kind of virus.

You won't even call them what they really are. You refuse to identify their cause. You can't stand up to Marxist Revolutionaries if you live in denial about their real objective, which you support by voting for the candidates they put forward in the party they infest. Tell me I am wrong.

You're wrong. But I'm not trying to convince you of anything. No reason to waste the time.

C'mon Mac. Just say the words. It's not hard. I'll say it with you... Commu...c'mon Mac. You can say it. Communi...almost there.

Sure, okay, I'm a hardcore communist and I want to see the whole world go commie and I look great in red.

Anything else?

I am not saying you're a commie doofus. You won't call commies commies when they are right in your fucking face. THAT is my complaint.

Lets us be clear, If Democrats where in Europe they would be to the right of the UK Conservative Party... The Democrats are very far way from 'Commies'...

Sorry but using that term on them just shows us your lack of knowledge rather than anything close to the truth.

Just as an example, Bernie and AOC are talking about running a country more like Germany. At the start of the year, Germany has a 3% unemployemnt (even now it is 4.2%), Budget surplus since 2012, Universal Healthcare, Free Third level education, 20% more people in Middle Class than US, Environment laws worth a crap...
So if AOC and Bernie are communists then communism works... Communism doesn't work and Germany isn't communism, it is social democracy... Social Democracy is more like the policies in US post World war 2... So when they say Make America Great Again they are saying a high tax on very high incomes, expanding middle class, balanced budgets... And these were GOP policies back then... GOP is the ones who left...

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

I tuned out Trump’s screed. Trump mentioned Biden approximately 50 times. Trump engaged in nothing but hyperbole and lies.

So in effect, you are commenting on and critiquing something you never heard and know nothing about.

It was the 2nd longest acceptance speech in history, you didn't listen to a minute of it, but you know that it was nothing but a pile of rubbish.

Can't say that surprises me.

Are you capable of reading English? I did not write I did not watch any part of the speech, I wrote I tuned it out. Yeah after the first 45 minutes I has enough of his trash and turned it off. Next time think Before you post.

You missed the spectacular fireworks at the end.

Trump sure knows how to put on a show!

 

[iceberg]

The rioters are doing a great job of helping Trump, that's for sure.

And it took the left 4 fucking months to say a damn word about it. Must have been shitty internal poll numbers that brought them out of hiding.

Yes, wingers will do absolutely anything it takes to avoid criticizing their tribe, no matter how much damage is done in the meantime.

Our wingers have allowed themselves to be convinced that this is "war", and that there are no rules.

Our wingers are killing us. In real time.

Then quit going full left wing all the time.