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Trump: Epstein Conspiracy Theorists Are "Bad People"
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Ew.
Probably because for all his stubborn faults he's not quite as big an arsehole as Chump.
Or dumps of boring, clunky memes.
Posted by someone who can't define 'woman' without exclusions.
Look here people -
The issue is not a "list". Epstein had lots of clients, we already know who they were. We've already seen the flight logs.
Some of his clients were legitimate financial clients. Others went to the island for fun and games. Even fun and games is legitimate, as long as you're not raping underage girls.
What we want to know is who was raping the underage girls. That information can only come from videos, or from direct testimony.
So let's do a thought experiment.
Let's say Pam and Kash have reviewed all the videos and they know who the perps are. Even so, they can't prosecute anything that didn't happen in the United States. Which leaves only activities that may have happened in Florida or New York.
And it is impossible to determine who is under age from a video. Which means the principals have to come forward. Some have, and it resulted in Ghislaine Maxwell serving 20 years in prison.
Frankly I don't see how the DOJ could do anything more. About the sex.
But the sex isn't really the issue, is it?
The question is whether Epstein was engaging in blackmail. And if so, whether there was any involvement of foreign governments.
THAT information is certainly in the FBI files. It would be unthinkable for the FBI not to investigate such a thing.
That's why we need to see the FBI file.
The videos... meh... that's up to the girls. If they want to come forward, they can.
But the national security implications are Pam and Kash's responsibility. So far they have told us NOTHING about this issue. Nothing other than unsupported assertions.
Maybe the FBI concluded there was no evidence that Epstein was blackmailing anyone. If so, that can be handled with the appropriate PR.
But for the President to tell us we're stupid for wanting to know, is shameful. It is a direct abrogation of his duty as Commander in Chief.
The American People deserve to know if their representatives have been compromised. This is not a conspiracy theory, it's a simple reality. There is "enough" doubt about Epstein's demise to raise serious concerns. Some of the world's foremost forensic pathologists have already told us there's no way those ligature marks were caused by a bedsheet. If they weren't, then the only likely suspects are organized crime and intelligence agencies. And in either case the implications are profound.
Pam and Kash need to release the FBI file. Not the videos, we already know what's in those. We need the national security piece. We the People need to exercise oversight on the FBI. Maybe the file shows they investigated and found nothing. Or maybe the file shows they failed to investigate, and if they failed maybe there was a reason or maybe they were just stupid and lazy.
The "list" doesn't matter. What matters is the FBI and DOJ's credibility. And the President's credibility.
The American People have had enough of being treated like stupid assholes. The last few elections have proven it. If this President keeps going the way he's going he'll hand the Congress back to the Democrats. His coalition could easily fall apart over this issue.
Deporting foreigners is not enough. The President has to keep his word. He promised to go after the Deep State and now he's making it look like he's very much a part of it.
Telling the American People they're stupid is a very bad idea. Many of us lived through the JFK fiasco, we still remember. The CIA was in bed with organized crime, that is a fact. Is that still going on? Has the FBI been compromised by foreign governments? These are not small questions.
The issue is not a "list". Epstein had lots of clients, we already know who they were. We've already seen the flight logs.
Some of his clients were legitimate financial clients. Others went to the island for fun and games. Even fun and games is legitimate, as long as you're not raping underage girls.
What we want to know is who was raping the underage girls. That information can only come from videos, or from direct testimony.
So let's do a thought experiment.
Let's say Pam and Kash have reviewed all the videos and they know who the perps are. Even so, they can't prosecute anything that didn't happen in the United States. Which leaves only activities that may have happened in Florida or New York.
And it is impossible to determine who is under age from a video. Which means the principals have to come forward. Some have, and it resulted in Ghislaine Maxwell serving 20 years in prison.
Frankly I don't see how the DOJ could do anything more. About the sex.
But the sex isn't really the issue, is it?
The question is whether Epstein was engaging in blackmail. And if so, whether there was any involvement of foreign governments.
THAT information is certainly in the FBI files. It would be unthinkable for the FBI not to investigate such a thing.
That's why we need to see the FBI file.
The videos... meh... that's up to the girls. If they want to come forward, they can.
But the national security implications are Pam and Kash's responsibility. So far they have told us NOTHING about this issue. Nothing other than unsupported assertions.
Maybe the FBI concluded there was no evidence that Epstein was blackmailing anyone. If so, that can be handled with the appropriate PR.
But for the President to tell us we're stupid for wanting to know, is shameful. It is a direct abrogation of his duty as Commander in Chief.
The American People deserve to know if their representatives have been compromised. This is not a conspiracy theory, it's a simple reality. There is "enough" doubt about Epstein's demise to raise serious concerns. Some of the world's foremost forensic pathologists have already told us there's no way those ligature marks were caused by a bedsheet. If they weren't, then the only likely suspects are organized crime and intelligence agencies. And in either case the implications are profound.
Pam and Kash need to release the FBI file. Not the videos, we already know what's in those. We need the national security piece. We the People need to exercise oversight on the FBI. Maybe the file shows they investigated and found nothing. Or maybe the file shows they failed to investigate, and if they failed maybe there was a reason or maybe they were just stupid and lazy.
The "list" doesn't matter. What matters is the FBI and DOJ's credibility. And the President's credibility.
The American People have had enough of being treated like stupid assholes. The last few elections have proven it. If this President keeps going the way he's going he'll hand the Congress back to the Democrats. His coalition could easily fall apart over this issue.
Deporting foreigners is not enough. The President has to keep his word. He promised to go after the Deep State and now he's making it look like he's very much a part of it.
Telling the American People they're stupid is a very bad idea. Many of us lived through the JFK fiasco, we still remember. The CIA was in bed with organized crime, that is a fact. Is that still going on? Has the FBI been compromised by foreign governments? These are not small questions.
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Hear that MAGAs. All you MAGAs who started all those threads about Jeff Epstein and his ring of deviants are all morons, stupid and weaklings.
You have all been duped!
But really, who duped you?
Trump says you were were duped by the Democrats.
LOL.
No, You were duped by Trump himself. He fanned the flames of the conspiracy and once he got what he wanted, he dumped it faster than you can say Alex Acosta. Trump never had any intention of opening a real investigation as why would he?
Why would Trump implicate himself?
Trump disavows supporters pushing Jeffrey Epstein 'bulls---': 'I don't want their support anymore!'
In a lengthy Truth Social post, Trump called supporters "weaklings" for pushing the Justice Department to release more files related to Epstein.www.nbcnews.com
Do you REALLY think if Trump was in those files it wouldn't have been released under Biden?
Like Scruff just pointed out, we saw the flight manifests. But to assume every single person on that flight manifest was engaged in raping underage girls is absurd. We see pics of Clinton in a dress on the wall of pedo island. Clinton was VERY involved in raping these girls. There is NO evidence Trump did any of that. Trump was a billionaire and so was Epstein. Billionaires do business with each other. Trump threw Epstein out of Mar a Lago for inappropriate behavior with an underage girl, and did it YEARS before the Epstein scandal.
If anything, Trump comes out looking like a king.
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Nothing on topic. Reported.
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Just pointing out the utter idiocy of someone complaining about one side ignoring the "truth" when their side ignores reality.
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As usual you simply don't get it.
"Epstein Epstein Epstein" is the new "Russia Russia Russia"
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Marty is one of Trump's "foolish" "weaklings".
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ummmm, he would have the intelligence info being the president. This seems to be the only thing the left has left to try to disparage Trump and make people hyperbolically and bigly angry. Don't you fools realize that is there was anything to it where they could sink Conservatives and Trump, that the master puppeteers who were president when the Biden mannequin was in there, they would have done it? Garland would have rolled it out in a nanosecond.Hear that MAGAs. All you MAGAs who started all those threads about Jeff Epstein and his ring of deviants are all morons, stupid and weaklings.
You have all been duped!
But really, who duped you?
Trump says you were were duped by the Democrats.
LOL.
No, You were duped by Trump himself. He fanned the flames of the conspiracy and once he got what he wanted, he dumped it faster than you can say Alex Acosta. Trump never had any intention of opening a real investigation as why would he?
Why would Trump implicate himself?
Trump disavows supporters pushing Jeffrey Epstein 'bulls---': 'I don't want their support anymore!'
In a lengthy Truth Social post, Trump called supporters "weaklings" for pushing the Justice Department to release more files related to Epstein.
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photoshopped.
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You can see what the files are and will continue doing: destroy Trump.
Oh, wah, you freak.
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Can you rephrase that so it makes even a whit of sense?
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Hear that MAGAs. All you MAGAs who started all those threads about Jeff Epstein and his ring of deviants are all morons, stupid and weaklings.
You have all been duped!
But really, who duped you?
Trump says you were were duped by the Democrats.
LOL.
No, You were duped by Trump himself. He fanned the flames of the conspiracy and once he got what he wanted, he dumped it faster than you can say Alex Acosta. Trump never had any intention of opening a real investigation as why would he?
Why would Trump implicate himself?
Trump disavows supporters pushing Jeffrey Epstein 'bulls---': 'I don't want their support anymore!'
In a lengthy Truth Social post, Trump called supporters "weaklings" for pushing the Justice Department to release more files related to Epstein.
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