Trump could de-classify just by saying so (w/o changing the labels on boxes).. etc

[justaschmuck9]

If you go to 2.40 in this video, it clears things up for all of you out there who insist Trump was so WRONG to have classified or possibly classified documents found in the raid

Watters says what most of us are thinking: the raid was just a fishing expedition, an excuse to enter Trump's home. This was an egregious violation of his privacy / the 4th Amendment

(BTW: I am fairly certain that "unproperly" (at point 3.57) is not a word.. Yep, I just got the red squiggly line to confirm.. so yeh, maybe we need more highly educated people in govt?)




love the sarcasm around 4.55

and 6:30


at 7.00 you find out the real reasons the fbi did this raid

check out excellent point made at 9.20

 

[Lesh]

If you go to 2.40 in this video, it clears things up for all of you out there who insist Trump was so WRONG to have classified or possibly classified documents found in the raid

Watters says what most of us are thinking: the raid was just a fishing expedition, an excuse to enter Trump's home. This was an egregious violation of his privacy / the 4th Amendment

(BTW: I am fairly certain that "unproperly" is not a word.. Yep, I just got the red squiggly line to confirm.. so yeh, maybe we need more highly educated people in govt?)

He could have… while President… if there was a witness.

Just thinking it doesn’t cut it and oh yea… the violations of the PRA and the three statues mentioned in the warrant do not require the docs to be classified to be in violation

How many times do you need that pointed out?

 

[johngaltshrugged]

That's the thing the leftists & TDS bed wetters can't quite grasp- DT had every right & privilege to declassify at will.
He had standing orders about declassification when he took materials home & he specifically declassified many others, including Crossfire Hurricane.

Holding copies of public records in a previously approved secured storage has never been a crime.
The raid was all about taking back the info that show Crossfire Hurricane was an illegal operation involving the Feds & Dem party to target candidate & President DT.
It makes Watergate look like a 3 Stooges type scam

 

[task0778]

If the president declares any document to be unclassified then it IS declassified right then and there, regardless of any label that is still on the document. There ought to be a stamp over the classification marking that says "declassified" to avoid mistakes, but nevertheless even without that the document is already declassified.

 

[Lakhota]

He could have… while President… if there was a witness.

Just thinking it doesn’t cut it and oh yea… the violations of the PRA and the three statues mentioned in the warrant do not require the docs to be classified to be in violation

How many times do you need that pointed out?

Wow, are these Trump NaziCon nuts really this dumb? Damn...

 

[Moonglow]

If the president declares any document to be unclassified then it IS declassified right then and there, regardless of any label that is still on the document. There ought to be a stamp over the classification marking that says "declassified" to avoid mistakes, but nevertheless even without that the document is already declassified.

You might want to read this.

Basic Laws and Authorities

Source: The provisions of Executive Order 12958, as amended by Executive Order 13292, can be found at 68 Federal Register 15315 (March 28, 2003).

www.archives.gov

 

[Moonglow]

(5) Delegations of original classification authority shall be reported or made available by name or position to the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office.

Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

 

[okfine]

If you go to 2.40 in this video, it clears things up for all of you out there who insist Trump was so WRONG to have classified or possibly classified documents found in the raid

Watters says what most of us are thinking: the raid was just a fishing expedition, an excuse to enter Trump's home. This was an egregious violation of his privacy / the 4th Amendment

(BTW: I am fairly certain that "unproperly" (at point 3.57) is not a word.. Yep, I just got the red squiggly line to confirm.. so yeh, maybe we need more highly educated people in govt?)




love the sarcasm around 4.55

and 6:30


at 7.00 you find out the real reasons the fbi did this raid

check out excellent point made at 9.20

Jesse Waters is so right (in your mind only)

 

[Moonglow]

Do presidents have to obey the usual procedures?​

Even if it is true that Mr. Trump had pronounced the documents declassified while he was in office, he clearly did not follow the regular procedures. But there is no Supreme Court precedent that definitively answers the question of whether that would make any difference.

Notably, a federal appeals court said in 2020 that “declassification, even by the president, must follow established procedures.” But the context was different: That line was part of an opinion rejecting a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit involving whether Mr. Trump had declassified a covert program by discussing its existence in a tweet.

In the unlikely event that the Justice Department were to charge him under the law that makes the unauthorized retention or removal of classified material a crime — despite not listing it as a focus of the investigation in the search warrant — a novel question would arise if Mr. Trump were then to repeat the claim as a defense.

Presidential Power to Declassify Information, Explained (Published 2022)

In an interview, Mr. Trump again insisted that “I declassified everything.” He added that as president, “you can declassify just by saying ‘it’s declassified’ — even by thinking about it.”

www.nytimes.com

 

[justaschmuck9]

He could have… while President… if there was a witness.

Just thinking it doesn’t cut it and oh yea… the violations of the PRA and the three statues mentioned in the warrant do not require the docs to be classified to be in violation

How many times do you need that pointed out?

you're wrong, hack

 

[Lesh]

Wow, are these Trump NaziCon nuts really this dumb? Damn...

Some are. Some just can’t publicly admit how fucked up Trump is

 

[Lesh]

you're wrong, hack

I am absolutely not. Read the PRA and those statutes invoked

 

[justaschmuck9]

That's the thing the leftists & TDS bed wetters can't quite grasp- DT had every right & privilege to declassify at will.
He had standing orders about declassification when he took materials home & he specifically declassified many others, including Crossfire Hurricane.

Holding copies of public records in a previously approved secured storage has never been a crime.
The raid was all about taking back the info that show Crossfire Hurricane was an illegal operation involving the Feds & Dem party to target candidate & President DT.
It makes Watergate look like a 3 Stooges type scam

3 stooges?

they were comedy. This is so dark, we can barely believe it

and yet some of us have been following the Sewer aka Swamp for so long, we are not as shocked as we should be. 30 years ago we would have been shocked to the core.. now we are just shocked because we have seen the Ds get away with so much evil for too long.. a day is too long..

Those Rs had better do something to save our country..

 

[Esdraelon]

He could have… while President… if there was a witness.

Every document in MAL was brought there prior to the end of his term. GSA handles all that. It's not like he was hanging around after Biden was sworn. In fact, he left before the inauguration of the thief. You folks are getting bad information. There is NO STATUTE that makes a president unable to declassify ANYTHING at ANY TIME.
NARA would have to PROVE he hadn't declassified the documents and short of getting a crooked judge to make up a law about it (possible today) the FBI will have to try for some "lesser crime". They have no legal means of disqualifying him so they are simply continuing their efforts to beat up his appeal and popularity. It's back firing - as usual.

 

[justaschmuck9]

Some are. Some just can’t publicly admit how fucked up Trump is

you're wrong, hack

 

[Moonglow]

you're wrong, hack

Do presidents have to obey the usual procedures?​

Even if it is true that Mr. Trump had pronounced the documents declassified while he was in office, he clearly did not follow the regular procedures. But there is no Supreme Court precedent that definitively answers the question of whether that would make any difference.

Notably, a federal appeals court said in 2020 that “declassification, even by the president, must follow established procedures.” But the context was different: That line was part of an opinion rejecting a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit involving whether Mr. Trump had declassified a covert program by discussing its existence in a tweet.

In the unlikely event that the Justice Department were to charge him under the law that makes the unauthorized retention or removal of classified material a crime — despite not listing it as a focus of the investigation in the search warrant — a novel question would arise if Mr. Trump were then to repeat the claim as a defense.

Presidential Power to Declassify Information, Explained (Published 2022)

In an interview, Mr. Trump again insisted that “I declassified everything.” He added that as president, “you can declassify just by saying ‘it’s declassified’ — even by thinking about it.”

www.nytimes.com

 

[Esdraelon]

I am absolutely not. Read the PRA and those statutes invoked

NO FEDERAL STATUTE takes precedence over the Constitution itself. I get that most progressives are used to passing laws that chip away from t=our Founding documents but THIS ONE you'll have to prove to SCOTUS.

 

[justaschmuck9]

Every document in MAL was brought there prior to the end of his term. GSA handles all that. It's not like he was hanging around after Biden was sworn. In fact, he left before the inauguration of the thief. You folks are getting bad information. There is NO STATUTE that makes a president unable to declassify ANYTHING at ANY TIME.
NARA would have to PROVE he hadn't declassified the documents and short of getting a crooked judge to make up a law about it (possible today) the FBI will have to try for some "lesser crime". They have no legal means of disqualifying him so they are simply continuing their efforts to beat up his appeal and popularity. It's back firing - as usual.

it's an appeal to the moron vote.. U know.. the morons who watch cnn and see all the brainwashing propaganda and actually believe it... they hate Trump because CNN "told" them to with all their lies and distortions of truth RE Trump

what a bunch of intellectual midgets..

but they are there.. ready to vote ... as cnn instructs..

box o' rocks

 

[Magnus]

If you go to 2.40 in this video, it clears things up for all of you out there who insist Trump was so WRONG to have classified or possibly classified documents found in the raid

Watters says what most of us are thinking: the raid was just a fishing expedition, an excuse to enter Trump's home. This was an egregious violation of his privacy / the 4th Amendment

(BTW: I am fairly certain that "unproperly" (at point 3.57) is not a word.. Yep, I just got the red squiggly line to confirm.. so yeh, maybe we need more highly educated people in govt?)




love the sarcasm around 4.55

and 6:30


at 7.00 you find out the real reasons the fbi did this raid

check out excellent point made at 9.20

 

[johngaltshrugged]

3 stooges?

they were comedy. This is so dark, we can barely believe it

and yet some of us have been following the Sewer aka Swamp for so long, we are not as shocked as we should be. 30 years ago we would have been shocked to the core.. now we are just shocked because we have seen the Ds get away with so much evil for too long.. a day is too long..

Those Rs had better do something to save our country..

Those Rs are all controlled by GOP establishment RINOs.
At most we will see more division & distraction while the real agenda continues in the background