Trump calls for scrapping debt limit

[Cellblock2429]

You voted for a man that claimed he won with negative 7 million votes

/——-/ Say what???

 

[YoursTruly]

Again, it is the deceitful DNCBC folks who misrepresent it everyday.

Did you miss the part about Trump wanting to eliminate the debt ceiling? (so they can spend more)

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

/——-/ Say what???

Former President Donald Trump told supporters in Michigan Thursday that he “won” the 2020 election –after repeatedly saying he “lost by a whisker” and just one day after federal prosecutors filed new claims about his behavior leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.
jc456
Grifter. See 7 million (duhhh)

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[Cellblock2429]

Former President Donald Trump told supporters in Michigan Thursday that he “won” the 2020 election –after repeatedly saying he “lost by a whisker” and just one day after federal prosecutors filed new claims about his behavior leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.
jc456
Grifter. See 7 million (duhhh)

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/—-/ Who cares except you?

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

/—-/ Who cares except you?

billions

 

[YoursTruly]

Former President Donald Trump told supporters in Michigan Thursday that he “won” the 2020 election –after repeatedly saying he “lost by a whisker” and just one day after federal prosecutors filed new claims about his behavior leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.
jc456
Grifter. See 7 million (duhhh)

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He also said he beat Harris in a landslide. 2.2 million votes, out of 150 million isn't even in the same ballpark as a landslide.

 

[jc456]

Did you miss the part about Trump wanting to eliminate the debt ceiling? (so they can spend more)

again, I agree with Trump. why have a ceiling if all congress does is increase it. Two different subjects.

 

[Nostra]

Big spending, big government republicans are doing their very best to destroy the USD and it's value. Eliminating the debt ceiling will only allow them to sink this ship. They're not even trying to get the spending under control.
He's siding with Elizabeth Warren..........

Trump is still a democrat at heart. His true blue colors shined bright last time he was in office. They're shining even bluer now.

Trump calls for scrapping debt limit​

President Trump on Wednesday doubled down on calls to scrap the nation’s debt ceiling, pressing for bipartisan action to abolish it and finding common ground with Democrat Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.).

“I am very pleased to announce that, after all of these years, I agree with Senator Elizabeth Warren on SOMETHING. The Debt Limit should be entirely scrapped.........

Link us up to this limit.

 

[YoursTruly]

again, I agree with Trump. why have a ceiling if all congress does is increase it. Two different subjects.

You'd agree with Trump if he said not to raise the debt ceiling.

 

[jc456]

You'd agree with Trump if he said not to raise the debt ceiling.

he didn't say that. so no.

 

[jc456]

He also said he beat Harris in a landslide. 2.2 million votes, out of 150 million isn't even in the same ballpark as a landslide.

how many counties did she win? Drop mic,

 

[ElmerMudd]

How's that different than what I said?

Do I really have to explain.
First very few businesses declare chapter 11 bankruptcy, about 3%.
For those businesses that cannot pay debts and continue on, are small companies where the owners go bankrupt at the same time as their company.
Slime bucket owners who use bankruptcy to walk away from business debt leaving many people and organization not paid and they walk away with billions is not the purpose of chapter 11.

 

[Correll]

Here's what makes no sense to me. Illegals have stopped coming in. Many have left. Enough that wages for uneducated blue collar workers should already be going up.

"Many" have left? This is the first i have heard of this. What are you talking about?

And considering the tens of millions that are here, it would take millions leaving to have a significant impact, especially in such a short time frame.

Also, again, NO COLLEGE doesn't mean, "uneducated".

Plenty of smart and well read people come out of high school. Like I said, you should meet my young co-worker Andrew. YOu talk with him for 5 minutes and you would realize two things;. ONE, he is totally on your side politically and culturally and TWO, he is not dumb or uneducated. When you talk like this, you are shitting all over good people ON YOUR OWN SIDE. That is serious, over the top asshole behavior.

But

Private employers add fewest workers in over 2 years as 'hiring hesitancy' hits a slowing US labor market​

How are they not hiring and paying more if their illegal help left?

At a guess, some of them are uncertain because of the many possible ways this economic war could break down.

This should be a short term issue. And once resolved, we should see pent up demand lead to a nice surge.

ICE arrests under Trump top 100,000 as officials expand aggressive efforts

Focused primarily on violent criminals in this first phase, not masses of people with legit jobs. So....

Not to mention, 100k? Peanuts. Get back o me when the number is 2 million.

And you know many immigrants aren't even coming here legally. Even Canada is boycotting us. Lots have self deported.

Good. But irrelevant to the massive pool of immigrant labor already here in our job market.

I mean, isn't that...oh, you were just shit talking. Damn man, that was a waste of my time.

Enough that private employers should be hiring, and paying more. Not hiring? Sounds like the Bush years are back and you defended that all 8 years too right?

I don't recall discucssing this issue at all during teh bush years. His policies did not really touch on this much, as he was pro-illegal immigration and his terms were dominated by war.

I've concluded that MAGA people are like Scientology. If you speak out against MAGA, like Musk, suddenly you are a leopard.

Or, more likely, you are just shit talking, spamming negs.


Meanwhile in the real world, it is too early to say how this is going to go. We got mixed early numbers. By mid terms we should have a better idea of whether or not this will work.

I know one thing. REturning to status quo is not on my list of options.

 

[Nostra]

Politicians have been scrapping the debt limit every year for years, dumbass.

 

[sealybobo]

"Many" have left? This is the first i have heard of this. What are you talking about?

And considering the tens of millions that are here, it would take millions leaving to have a significant impact, especially in such a short time frame.

Also, again, NO COLLEGE doesn't mean, "uneducated".

Plenty of smart and well read people come out of high school. Like I said, you should meet my young co-worker Andrew. YOu talk with him for 5 minutes and you would realize two things;. ONE, he is totally on your side politically and culturally and TWO, he is not dumb or uneducated. When you talk like this, you are shitting all over good people ON YOUR OWN SIDE. That is serious, over the top asshole behavior.





At a guess, some of them are uncertain because of the many possible ways this economic war could break down.

This should be a short term issue. And once resolved, we should see pent up demand lead to a nice surge.





Focused primarily on violent criminals in this first phase, not masses of people with legit jobs. So....

Not to mention, 100k? Peanuts. Get back o me when the number is 2 million.




Good. But irrelevant to the massive pool of immigrant labor already here in our job market.

I mean, isn't that...oh, you were just shit talking. Damn man, that was a waste of my time.




I don't recall discucssing this issue at all during teh bush years. His policies did not really touch on this much, as he was pro-illegal immigration and his terms were dominated by war.




Or, more likely, you are just shit talking, spamming negs.


Meanwhile in the real world, it is too early to say how this is going to go. We got mixed early numbers. By mid terms we should have a better idea of whether or not this will work.

I know one thing. REturning to status quo is not on my list of options.

Do you want to know where the majority of illegals are? Red states. Agriculture. Farms. Trump's not going after those illegals.

Mollie Tibbetts was killed by Cristhian Rivera, who worked at Yarrabee Farms, a dairy farm near her home in Brooklyn, Iowa.

Yarrabee Farms also lied and said they used Everify. They didn't.

Next you will say those are just jobs Americans won't do. And food prices would skyrocket if we went after those illegal employers. The government knows about them and notice ICE is not raiding these farms? Chicken, beef, apple orchards, cherries, pears, I'd say the vast majority of our illegals are in Red states not California.

 

[sealybobo]

Politicians have been scrapping the debt limit every year for years, dumbass.

Trump was going to be different. You must admit on some level Elon's right. This bill is a slap in your face as far as saving us money, ending the status quo bullshit. This is just like Biden and his big infrastructure bill only we needed infrastructure spending. Trump's money goes to rich people and defense spending where the majority of waste, fraud and abuse is happening. Not medicaid and foodstamps. Sad

 

[Crepitus]

Okay, so cutting the government in half and paying off the debt was a lie.

Now I'm going to focus on the other big promise. He's going to fix America for uneducated blue collar workers. Most of us who have educations are doing alright. Saving enough for retirement, able to afford a home, have kids.

I want to see uneducated blue collar workers do GREAT again. Like when my dad worked at Ford in the 80's and 90's. A guy could graduate high school and get a job in a factory that could afford him to live the American dream.

But Republicans who are honest will tell you those days are never coming back. But Correll seems to be counting on it.

And how come wages aren't going up with all the illegals gone? Companies say they can't find help.

the Justice Department needs to embark on a vigorous, very public, enforcement program against employers. Not only will that punish employers for breaking the law and depriving Americans of jobs, but the publicity from that should help deter many other employers from engaging in such behavior, drying up the ability of illegal aliens to work and earn a living.

What Everyone Is Missing in the Argument Over Mass Deportation

“Illegals must go,” Tom Homan, the incoming Border Czar, has declared—and he and President-elect Trump mean that literally. Critics have a pat response: It is not physically or financially possible to implement the largest deportation program in our history. But they’re missing a critical tool...

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Dude, you are assuming folks are gonna do farm labor, or construction, or maintenance, or cleaning.

You know what assuming does.

 

[Crepitus]

Politicians have been scrapping the debt limit every year for years, dumbass.

Hypocrisy!

It's what's for dinner!

 

[sealybobo]

Dude, you are assuming folks are gonna do farm labor, or construction, or maintenance, or cleaning.

You know what assuming does.

Oh, I know these illegals are being overlooked for good reasons. I'm just pointing it out.

So a farmer can hire illegals. Can meat packing plants? Who else? Because they are the reason illegals come here. Notice Trump cut off the welfare system you guys said they were benefiting from? You said the welfare was why they came. I said it was the lure of illegal employers. Now that the welfare is gone, notice they haven't all left? I wonder why? Because the ones here work. Hard.

I say make them all legal. Pay into social security. It might raise prices but it's the right thing to do. Or give them special work visas. Not citizens but pay your taxes.

 

[Crepitus]

Oh, I know these illegals are being overlooked for good reasons. I'm just pointing it out.

So a farmer can hire illegals. Can meat packing plants? Who else? Because they are the reason illegals come here. Notice Trump cut off the welfare system you guys said they were benefiting from? You said the welfare was why they came. I said it was the lure of illegal employers. Now that the welfare is gone, notice they haven't all left? I wonder why? Because the ones here work. Hard.

I say make them all legal. Pay into social security. It might raise prices but it's the right thing to do. Or give them special work visas. Not citizens but pay your taxes.

I never said welfare was why they came. Illegals cannot get welfare. The ones here always worked.