Trump: Bush lied about reason for invading Iraq

[Synthaholic]

I would have thought him thinking Obama born in Kenya

Conservatives no longer care where you were born, as long as mommy was born in America.

Didn't get the memo, eh?

 

[Synthaholic]

Might it be pointed out that the Iraq war ended a number of years ago with a free Iraq?

Define "free".

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Actually, he said, "They lied"

Dunno if anyone lied. Do know, many used false info to make a point. Whether they knew it to be false at the time, is not known.

However, chemical weapons were found in Iraq.

Cheney definitely lied when he said unequivocally that Atta had met with Iraqi government officials in Germany. Also:

Vice President Dick Cheney had told Meet the Press on December 9, 2001, that Iraq was harboring Abdul Rahman Yasin, a suspect in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing,[14] and repeated the statement in another appearance on September 14, 2003, saying "We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s, that it involved training, for example, on BW and CW, that al-Qaida sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaida organization. We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in '93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of '93. And we’ve learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven."[15] and once again in an interview with National Public Radio in January, 2004, stating that there had been "overwhelming evidence" of a relationship between Saddam and al-Qaeda based on evidence including Iraq's purported harboring of Yasin.[16]

In the same Meet the Press interviews, Cheney implied a connection between Iraq and Mohamed Atta; "The Czech interior minister said today that an Iraqi intelligence officer met with Mohammed Atta, one of the ringleaders of the September 11 terrorists attacks on the United States, just five months before the synchronized hijackings and mass killings were carried out."[14] and "With respect to 9/11, of course, we’ve had the story that’s been public out there. The Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack, but we’ve never been able to develop any more of that yet either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it. We just don’t know."[15] Czech officials have since backed off of this claim, and even Cheney has since acknowledged that the notion "that the meeting ever took place" has been "pretty well knocked down now."[17] (See Mohamed Atta's alleged Prague connection.)
​

Another lie:

And for any analysts unclear on what the administration wanted to hear, Vice President Dick Cheney, whom several Bush officials told me was not as smart as the president, made sure they got the message on August 26, 2002, when he delivered a public speech that had not been vetted by the White House or cleared by Bush. “There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction,’’ he said. “There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.”

The clear message to the worker bees at the CIA: The White House knew Saddam had the weapons. Disagree at peril to your career.​

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/05/29/dick-cheneys-biggest-lie-333097.html

Let me educate you and maybe you will not be such a liberal hack!

If I tell you that Michelle Obama is really a transgender man and that the Obama kids are adopted, I would be lying. Now, you being a gullible liberal swallow that lie, hook, line and sinker, and then proceed to act on that lie by repeating it, would you be a liar or simply someone who was led astray by a very convincing argument that I made?

If you consider yourself to be a liar, through no fault of your own, then you would be consistent in calling Cheney a liar. The intelligence he received was that information was true.

If you don't consider yourself a liar, how can you hold someone else accountable for acting on bad intelligence information?

If you don't consider yourself a liar, how can you hold someone else accountable for acting on bad intelligence information?

Because they are responsible for making the wrong choice. They took a gamble using information that was tenuous at best.They exercised no good judgement whatsoever. They were wrong and created a multi generational global shitstorm of epic proportions. They in no way get a pass because of " bad Intel". It was their bad judgement that did it.

The exercise of good judgement is merely your uninformed opinion. But, you admit that use of the word "lie" is totally incompatible with what actually occurred?

Lie s exactly what occurred...on a massive scale

So, you admit that all of the Democrats like the Clintons, Kerry, Pelosi and the lot are just as responsible for their exercise of poor judgement, or are you going to smugly say "That's (D)ifferent!"?

 

[Synthaholic]

How many on the left are willing to hold lying Mrs. Bosnia Clinton to her vote for war?

She didn't vote for war, she voted to not tie the hands of the president, and give him authority for war as a last resort - just as Bush framed it.

 

[Synthaholic]

Good question.

Better question: How can anyone support any of the shit-for-candidates?

You're holding out for Bloomberg, right?

 

[rightwinger]

Cheney definitely lied when he said unequivocally that Atta had met with Iraqi government officials in Germany. Also:

Vice President Dick Cheney had told Meet the Press on December 9, 2001, that Iraq was harboring Abdul Rahman Yasin, a suspect in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing,[14] and repeated the statement in another appearance on September 14, 2003, saying "We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s, that it involved training, for example, on BW and CW, that al-Qaida sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaida organization. We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in '93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of '93. And we’ve learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven."[15] and once again in an interview with National Public Radio in January, 2004, stating that there had been "overwhelming evidence" of a relationship between Saddam and al-Qaeda based on evidence including Iraq's purported harboring of Yasin.[16]

In the same Meet the Press interviews, Cheney implied a connection between Iraq and Mohamed Atta; "The Czech interior minister said today that an Iraqi intelligence officer met with Mohammed Atta, one of the ringleaders of the September 11 terrorists attacks on the United States, just five months before the synchronized hijackings and mass killings were carried out."[14] and "With respect to 9/11, of course, we’ve had the story that’s been public out there. The Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack, but we’ve never been able to develop any more of that yet either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it. We just don’t know."[15] Czech officials have since backed off of this claim, and even Cheney has since acknowledged that the notion "that the meeting ever took place" has been "pretty well knocked down now."[17] (See Mohamed Atta's alleged Prague connection.)
​

Another lie:

And for any analysts unclear on what the administration wanted to hear, Vice President Dick Cheney, whom several Bush officials told me was not as smart as the president, made sure they got the message on August 26, 2002, when he delivered a public speech that had not been vetted by the White House or cleared by Bush. “There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction,’’ he said. “There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.”

The clear message to the worker bees at the CIA: The White House knew Saddam had the weapons. Disagree at peril to your career.​

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/05/29/dick-cheneys-biggest-lie-333097.html

Let me educate you and maybe you will not be such a liberal hack!

If I tell you that Michelle Obama is really a transgender man and that the Obama kids are adopted, I would be lying. Now, you being a gullible liberal swallow that lie, hook, line and sinker, and then proceed to act on that lie by repeating it, would you be a liar or simply someone who was led astray by a very convincing argument that I made?

If you consider yourself to be a liar, through no fault of your own, then you would be consistent in calling Cheney a liar. The intelligence he received was that information was true.

If you don't consider yourself a liar, how can you hold someone else accountable for acting on bad intelligence information?

If you don't consider yourself a liar, how can you hold someone else accountable for acting on bad intelligence information?

Because they are responsible for making the wrong choice. They took a gamble using information that was tenuous at best.They exercised no good judgement whatsoever. They were wrong and created a multi generational global shitstorm of epic proportions. They in no way get a pass because of " bad Intel". It was their bad judgement that did it.

The exercise of good judgement is merely your uninformed opinion. But, you admit that use of the word "lie" is totally incompatible with what actually occurred?

Lie s exactly what occurred...on a massive scale

So, you admit that all of the Democrats like the Clintons, Kerry, Pelosi and the lot are just as responsible for their exercise of poor judgement, or are you going to smugly say "That's (D)ifferent!"?

Every one of them was a moral coward unwilling to stand up to post 9/11 hysteria. Republicans made it clear they would label any opposition as unamerican and soft on terror......they all deferred to the Presidents judgement

Bush lied to get his war

 

[Dot Com]

"Bush lied, people died."

One usually hears that from the loopy left, not from the leading contender for the Republican nomination.

Well, he did lie, and people did die because of those lies.

Facts are loopy!

yeah Toro sheesh. Stop it already Establishment mouth piece guy

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Names please.

Start with New Hampshire, then look at Trumps lead in the polls

Millions of Republicans support Trump and Trump believes Bush botched both 9-11 AND Iraq

You have no way of knowing why they support trump. It's a to Obama..not anti bush.

Shit.....if a Democratic candidate told me Obama was responsible for 9-11, I wouldn't support him

Millions of Republicans flock to Trump as their savior

After suffering under Obama for 7 years, even Bozo the Clown would look like a savior.

That's a funny joke....shows how simplistic your political thoughts are

Really? Compared to you, Bozo is a freaking genius!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Let me educate you and maybe you will not be such a liberal hack!

If I tell you that Michelle Obama is really a transgender man and that the Obama kids are adopted, I would be lying. Now, you being a gullible liberal swallow that lie, hook, line and sinker, and then proceed to act on that lie by repeating it, would you be a liar or simply someone who was led astray by a very convincing argument that I made?

If you consider yourself to be a liar, through no fault of your own, then you would be consistent in calling Cheney a liar. The intelligence he received was that information was true.

If you don't consider yourself a liar, how can you hold someone else accountable for acting on bad intelligence information?

If you don't consider yourself a liar, how can you hold someone else accountable for acting on bad intelligence information?

Because they are responsible for making the wrong choice. They took a gamble using information that was tenuous at best.They exercised no good judgement whatsoever. They were wrong and created a multi generational global shitstorm of epic proportions. They in no way get a pass because of " bad Intel". It was their bad judgement that did it.

The exercise of good judgement is merely your uninformed opinion. But, you admit that use of the word "lie" is totally incompatible with what actually occurred?

Lie s exactly what occurred...on a massive scale

So, you admit that all of the Democrats like the Clintons, Kerry, Pelosi and the lot are just as responsible for their exercise of poor judgement, or are you going to smugly say "That's (D)ifferent!"?

Every one of them was a moral coward unwilling to stand up to post 9/11 hysteria. Republicans made it clear they would label any opposition as unamerican and soft on terror......they all deferred to the Presidents judgement

Bush lied to get his war

Why do liberals want to remove all doubt that they are spineless, brainless blobs follow their master's bidding without any thought possible?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Might it be pointed out that the Iraq war ended a number of years ago with a free Iraq?

Define "free".

Anything a socialist like Bernie Sanders thinks comes from the government at no cost to anyone!

 

[Synthaholic]

Actually, he said, "They lied"

Dunno if anyone lied. Do know, many used false info to make a point. Whether they knew it to be false at the time, is not known.

However, chemical weapons were found in Iraq.

Cheney definitely lied when he said unequivocally that Atta had met with Iraqi government officials in Germany. Also:

Vice President Dick Cheney had told Meet the Press on December 9, 2001, that Iraq was harboring Abdul Rahman Yasin, a suspect in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing,[14] and repeated the statement in another appearance on September 14, 2003, saying "We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s, that it involved training, for example, on BW and CW, that al-Qaida sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaida organization. We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in '93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of '93. And we’ve learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven."[15] and once again in an interview with National Public Radio in January, 2004, stating that there had been "overwhelming evidence" of a relationship between Saddam and al-Qaeda based on evidence including Iraq's purported harboring of Yasin.[16]

In the same Meet the Press interviews, Cheney implied a connection between Iraq and Mohamed Atta; "The Czech interior minister said today that an Iraqi intelligence officer met with Mohammed Atta, one of the ringleaders of the September 11 terrorists attacks on the United States, just five months before the synchronized hijackings and mass killings were carried out."[14] and "With respect to 9/11, of course, we’ve had the story that’s been public out there. The Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack, but we’ve never been able to develop any more of that yet either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it. We just don’t know."[15] Czech officials have since backed off of this claim, and even Cheney has since acknowledged that the notion "that the meeting ever took place" has been "pretty well knocked down now."[17] (See Mohamed Atta's alleged Prague connection.)
​

Another lie:

And for any analysts unclear on what the administration wanted to hear, Vice President Dick Cheney, whom several Bush officials told me was not as smart as the president, made sure they got the message on August 26, 2002, when he delivered a public speech that had not been vetted by the White House or cleared by Bush. “There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction,’’ he said. “There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.”

The clear message to the worker bees at the CIA: The White House knew Saddam had the weapons. Disagree at peril to your career.​

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/05/29/dick-cheneys-biggest-lie-333097.html

Let me educate you and maybe you will not be such a liberal hack!

If I tell you that Michelle Obama is really a transgender man and that the Obama kids are adopted, I would be lying. Now, you being a gullible liberal swallow that lie, hook, line and sinker, and then proceed to act on that lie by repeating it, would you be a liar or simply someone who was led astray by a very convincing argument that I made?

If you consider yourself to be a liar, through no fault of your own, then you would be consistent in calling Cheney a liar. The intelligence he received was that information was true.

If you don't consider yourself a liar, how can you hold someone else accountable for acting on bad intelligence information?

Because multiple sources have stated that Cheney did not act on bad intelligence. He had a conclusion then only wanted to hear/see intel that fit that conclusion.

 

[Synthaholic]

Who was/is the biggest threat to the US?

Saddam
Mubarak
Qadaffi
Assad
Kohmeni

None of them. The North Korean Kims, whom Bush ignored, allowing them to go nuclear.

Bush ignored them? ha!

Clinton gave them everything they needed, under the cover of their cooperating with other countries by not pursuing nuclear weapons, while secretly doing just that!

You're ignorant. Bush allowed them to build nukes.

 

[Dot Com]

He stated the same reason as Clinton (male) did and Clinton(femaile) voted for it. I would say that this is a conspiracy of lies between the democrats and the republicans.

ummm..... no because the Repubs threatened those who wouldn't go along w/ their plan to enrich defense contractors

 

[rightwinger]

Start with New Hampshire, then look at Trumps lead in the polls

Millions of Republicans support Trump and Trump believes Bush botched both 9-11 AND Iraq

You have no way of knowing why they support trump. It's a to Obama..not anti bush.

Shit.....if a Democratic candidate told me Obama was responsible for 9-11, I wouldn't support him

Millions of Republicans flock to Trump as their savior

After suffering under Obama for 7 years, even Bozo the Clown would look like a savior.

That's a funny joke....shows how simplistic your political thoughts are

Really? Compared to you, Bozo is a freaking genius!

Don't you agree how childish a response that is?
Shows the level of your observation

 

[Dot Com]

Every one of them was a moral coward unwilling to stand up to post 9/11 hysteria. Republicans made it clear they would label any opposition as unamerican and soft on terror......they all deferred to the Presidents judgement

Bush lied to get his war

that about sums it up.

 

[Synthaholic]

Why do you people insist on posting this garbage? If straw polls and internet polls were accurate, President Ron Paul would be sitting in the White House enjoying his third term right now!

Here a classic FoxNews poll, where they actually declared someone other than Paul the winner.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You have no way of knowing why they support trump. It's a to Obama..not anti bush.

Shit.....if a Democratic candidate told me Obama was responsible for 9-11, I wouldn't support him

Millions of Republicans flock to Trump as their savior

After suffering under Obama for 7 years, even Bozo the Clown would look like a savior.

That's a funny joke....shows how simplistic your political thoughts are

Really? Compared to you, Bozo is a freaking genius!

Don't you agree how childish a response that is?
Shows the level of your observation

No. It perfectly illustrates your inability to cognitively function.

 

[rightwinger]

Because they are responsible for making the wrong choice. They took a gamble using information that was tenuous at best.They exercised no good judgement whatsoever. They were wrong and created a multi generational global shitstorm of epic proportions. They in no way get a pass because of " bad Intel". It was their bad judgement that did it.

The exercise of good judgement is merely your uninformed opinion. But, you admit that use of the word "lie" is totally incompatible with what actually occurred?

Lie s exactly what occurred...on a massive scale

So, you admit that all of the Democrats like the Clintons, Kerry, Pelosi and the lot are just as responsible for their exercise of poor judgement, or are you going to smugly say "That's (D)ifferent!"?

Every one of them was a moral coward unwilling to stand up to post 9/11 hysteria. Republicans made it clear they would label any opposition as unamerican and soft on terror......they all deferred to the Presidents judgement

Bush lied to get his war

Why do liberals want to remove all doubt that they are spineless, brainless blobs follow their master's bidding without any thought possible?

After 9-11, America rallied around the President. It is what we do.
We gave Bush a 9-11 card that said we would support him in anything he needed to fight terrorism
At that time, taking a stand against Bush was taking a stand against America
Bush used his 9-11 card to invade Iraq.......after that, we took his card away

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why do you people insist on posting this garbage? If straw polls and internet polls were accurate, President Ron Paul would be sitting in the White House enjoying his third term right now!

Here a classic FoxNews poll, where they actually declared someone other than Paul the winner.

Paul sure likes like the winner with 33% in that graphic to me. Are you sure you don't need to see his son Rand for an eye checkup?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The exercise of good judgement is merely your uninformed opinion. But, you admit that use of the word "lie" is totally incompatible with what actually occurred?

Lie s exactly what occurred...on a massive scale

So, you admit that all of the Democrats like the Clintons, Kerry, Pelosi and the lot are just as responsible for their exercise of poor judgement, or are you going to smugly say "That's (D)ifferent!"?

Every one of them was a moral coward unwilling to stand up to post 9/11 hysteria. Republicans made it clear they would label any opposition as unamerican and soft on terror......they all deferred to the Presidents judgement

Bush lied to get his war

Why do liberals want to remove all doubt that they are spineless, brainless blobs follow their master's bidding without any thought possible?

After 9-11, America rallied around the President. It is what we do.
We gave Bush a 9-11 card that said we would support him in anything he needed to fight terrorism
At that time, taking a stand against Bush was taking a stand against America
Bush used his 9-11 card to invade Iraq.......after that, we took his card away

Why did he wait over a year and a half to do it? According to your and your ilk, if any of what you claimed was true, it should have happened before we invaded Afghanistan!