Trump +7 with blacks and +8 with Hispanics over Romney in 2012 (lots of racist blacks and hispanics)

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Post the numbers validating the OP's claim. You can't because it's not true, hence, the reason he provided no source himself.

I found polls that had Trump picking up anywhere from 5% more black votes than Romney to having about 30% support (excited/optimistic about) from Hispanics, with Hispanics in Floriduh going as high as 40%.

And no, I am not going to google up a long list of links that you will simply ignore.

You have polls. You do not have the numbers post election. He increased his numbers in both groups by two percentage points. End of story.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Post the numbers validating the OP's claim. You can't because it's not true, hence, the reason he provided no source himself.

I found polls that had Trump picking up anywhere from 5% more black votes than Romney to having about 30% support (excited/optimistic about) from Hispanics, with Hispanics in Floriduh going as high as 40%.

And no, I am not going to google up a long list of links that you will simply ignore.

Well then don't ever ask for a link again.

Here's the links you can ignore. CNN exit polls 2016 and 2012.

Romney Latino vote - 27%
Trump Latino vote - 29%

Romney Black vote - 6%
Trump Black vote - 8%

Presidential Race - 2012 Election Center - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

2016 election results: National Exit polls

 

[JimBowie1958]

Post the numbers validating the OP's claim. You can't because it's not true, hence, the reason he provided no source himself.

I found polls that had Trump picking up anywhere from 5% more black votes than Romney to having about 30% support (excited/optimistic about) from Hispanics, with Hispanics in Floriduh going as high as 40%.

And no, I am not going to google up a long list of links that you will simply ignore.

You have polls. You do not have the numbers post election. He increased his numbers in both groups by two percentage points. End of story.

Fuck the numbers, here are the underlying reasons, perhaps they can help you more.

The God That Failed | RealClearPolitics
Two points demand attention. The first, which “demographics-is-destiny” types typically gloss over, is that Trump received more votes from white evangelicals than Clinton received from African-Americans and Hispanics combined. This single group very nearly cancels the Democrats’ advantage among non-whites completely. This isn’t a one-off; it was true in 2012, 2008 and 2004.

Second, you may wonder why this group voted in historic numbers for a man like Trump. Perhaps, as some have suggested, they are hypocrites. Perhaps they are merely partisans. But I will make a further suggestion: They are scared.

Consider that over the course of the past few years, Democrats and liberals have: booed the inclusion of God in their platform at the 2012 convention (this is disputed, but it is the perception); endorsed a regulation that would allow transgendered students to use the bathroom and locker room corresponding to their identity; attempted to force small businesses to cover drugs they believe induce abortions; attempted to force nuns to provide contraceptive coverage; forced Brendan Eich to step down as chief executive officer of Mozilla due to his opposition to marriage equality; fined a small Christian bakery over $140,000 for refusing to bake a cake for a same-sex wedding; vigorously opposed a law in Indiana that would provide protections against similar regulations – despite having overwhelmingly supported similar laws when they protected Native American religious rights – and then scoured the Indiana countryside trying to find a business that would be affected by the law before settling upon a small pizza place in the middle of nowhere and harassing the owners. In 2015, the United States solicitor general suggested that churches might lose their tax exempt status if they refused to perform same-sex marriages. In 2016, the Democratic nominee endorsed repealing the Hyde Amendment, thereby endorsing federal funding for elective abortions.


The Gender Gap Giveth, the Gender Gap Taketh Away | RealClearPolitics

In every one of these elections, there has been a gender gap of varying sizes, and Democrats won the female vote in almost every election (2010 is the sole exception, when Republican narrowly won among women). Yet, if anything, a larger gender gap correlates with a worse Democratic performance in House elections (p<.001). Two of the three largest gender gaps on record – 11 points in 1994 and 10 points in 2012 and 2014 – occurred in two of the worst years for Democrats nationally. This happened because Democrats performed horribly among men, winning just 42 percent each time. In fact, if we look at the entire time series, the men’s vote is far more variable (standard deviation = 4.2) than the women’s vote (standard deviation = 2.4).

We can see this at the national level as well.

Democrats won the female vote in almost every election in the past 20 years (2010 is the sole exception, when Republican narrowly won among women). Yet, if anything, a larger gender gap correlates with a worse Democratic performance in House elections. Two of the three largest gender gaps on record – 11 points in 1994 and 10 points in 2012 and 2014 – occurred in two of the worst years for Democrats nationally. This happened because Democrats performed horribly among men, winning just 42 percent each time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/22/upshot/more-hispanics-declaring-themselves-white.html

But a new study of census forms finds that more Hispanics are identifying as white.

An estimated net 1.2 million Americans of the 35 million Americans identified in 2000 as of “Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin,” as the census form puts it, changed their race from “some other race” to “white” between the 2000 and 2010 censuses, according to research presented at an annual meeting of the Population Association of America and reported by Pew Research.

The researchers, who have not yet published their findings, compared individual census forms from the 2000 and 2010 censuses. They found that millions of Americans answered the census questions about race and ethnicity differently in 2000 and 2010. The largest shifts were among Americans of Hispanic origin, who are the nation’s fastest growing ethnic group by total numbers.

Race is an immutable characteristic for many white, black and Asian-Americans. It is less clear for Americans of Hispanic origin. The census form asks two questions about race and ethnicity: one about whether individuals are of Hispanic or Latino origin, and another about race. “Hispanics” do not constitute a race, according to the census, and so 37 percent of Hispanics, presumably dissatisfied with options like “white” or “black,” selected “some other race.”

The researchers found that 2.5 million Americans of Hispanic origin, or approximately 7 percent of the 35 million Americans of Hispanic origin in 2000, changed their race from “some other race” in 2000 to “white” in 2010. An additional 1.3 million people switched in the other direction. A noteworthy but unspecified share of the change came from children who weren’t old enough to fill out a form in 2000, but chose for themselves in 2010.

The data provide new evidence consistent with the theory that Hispanics may assimilate as white Americans, like the Italians or Irish, who were not universally considered to be white. It is particularly significant that the shift toward white identification withstood a decade of debate over immigration and the country’s exploding Hispanic population, which might have been expected to inculcate or reinforce a sense of Hispanic identity, or draw attention to divisions that remain between Hispanics and non-Hispanic white Americans. Research suggests that Hispanics who have experienced discrimination are less likely to identify as white.

The demographic axioms on which the Democrats have been relying on for future success are false. And the coming Robotics Revolution will have an even greater impact on low skilled Hispanics becoming unable to find jobs and then taking their families and going back to their third world countries where robotics will not have yet become so affordable and ubiquitous as they will become very soon in the USA.

The Democrats are working themselves into being a permanent minority party for several decades.

 

[JimBowie1958]

a bump for the chilluns!