Top 1% file class action suit for being forced to pay 40% of income taxes.

[Too Tall]

What doya want Edward? A socialist revolution?

That is what happens when wealth distribution gets too lopsided.

Idealy would it happen? No. Then again, ideally humans would be motivated to work for the greater good in a socialist state but we know that does not happen.

So we pick a middle ground.

Wealth is not taxed, income is!

 

[DiamondDave]

I have taken a political compass that shows me far right authoritarian, and another that shows me almost straight centrist... to use a pic from a political compass as proof of something is flat out stupid

Hitler was indeed for state control of production and business... a very socialist move.. While different than Stalin or Lenin, he was still very much a nationalist/socialist

 

[rightwinger]

This seems a clear violation of the equal protection clause. Does anyone doubt it?

Every person is treated the same

Every dollar is not treated the same

 

[TNHarley]

It just pisses me off when I pay more tax at one shopping trip to wally world than some people pay all year. Thats probably a big majority of the people wanting the rich to pay more. ME thinks anyways

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This seems a clear violation of the equal protection clause. Does anyone doubt it?

That's a great point!

It's discrimination!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

One thing that happens with the Hitler is a Socialist debate is the "left / right" lines are not complicated enough. Else-wise you end up with Stalin near Ghandi and they just were not alike.

Political Compass - Analysis

Your chart is fucked.

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemingly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and prosperity instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy their system under all conditions." -- Hitler, Socialist

 

[Toronado3800]

"The streets of our country are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with her might, and the Republic is in danger. Yes - danger from within and without. We need law and order! Without it our nation cannot survive."–Adolf Hitler

 

[Toronado3800]

If all we are doing is grabbing random Hitler quotes. Remember this guy no.doubt had to give a speech after signing his bogus peace treaty with Russia and to get elected during a time when real socialists were coming to power

 

[DiamondDave]

If all we are doing is grabbing random Hitler quotes. Remember this guy no.doubt had to give a speech after signing his bogus peace treaty with Russia and to get elected during a time when real socialists were coming to power

Not all socialists like each other.. and not all are made from the same cookie cutter....

 

[DiamondDave]

This seems a clear violation of the equal protection clause. Does anyone doubt it?

Every person is treated the same

Every dollar is not treated the same

And the difference between dollar #10 that you earn and dollar #123003 that I earn is what?? Does it buy more or less milk? Does it not spend the same? Is it unable to pay for the same toll? Does it not work in a Coke machine??

 

[rightwinger]

This seems a clear violation of the equal protection clause. Does anyone doubt it?

Every person is treated the same

Every dollar is not treated the same

And the difference between dollar #10 that you earn and dollar #123003 that I earn is what?? Does it buy more or less milk? Does it not spend the same? Is it unable to pay for the same toll? Does it not work in a Coke machine??

Life is not fair

Our society functions as a whole and the people vote to decide how revenue from that society will be generated

Guess what? Those who have little money are not asked to make the same contribution as those who have immense wealth

The basic concept is that those with very little money have to use that money for basic necessities of life (food, shelter, healthcare....) Those with immense wealth still have immense wealth after they have paid for lifes necessities and are asked to contribute more

 

[TNHarley]

Every person is treated the same

Every dollar is not treated the same

And the difference between dollar #10 that you earn and dollar #123003 that I earn is what?? Does it buy more or less milk? Does it not spend the same? Is it unable to pay for the same toll? Does it not work in a Coke machine??

Life is not fair

Our society functions as a whole and the people vote to decide how revenue from that society will be generated

Guess what? Those who have little money are not asked to make the same contribution as those who have immense wealth

The basic concept is that those with very little money have to use that money for basic necessities of life (food, shelter, healthcare....) Those with immense wealth still have immense wealth after they have paid for lifes necessities and are asked to contribute more

Funny, I dont remember a vote for all that stimulus.

 

[DiamondDave]

Every person is treated the same

Every dollar is not treated the same

And the difference between dollar #10 that you earn and dollar #123003 that I earn is what?? Does it buy more or less milk? Does it not spend the same? Is it unable to pay for the same toll? Does it not work in a Coke machine??

Life is not fair

Our society functions as a whole and the people vote to decide how revenue from that society will be generated

Guess what? Those who have little money are not asked to make the same contribution as those who have immense wealth

The basic concept is that those with very little money have to use that money for basic necessities of life (food, shelter, healthcare....) Those with immense wealth still have immense wealth after they have paid for lifes necessities and are asked to contribute more

You are right.. life is not fair.. yet you try and legislate 'fair' into the tax code...

Those with little money in a flat tax system are not making the same contribution.. they are making a lesser total contribution.... but in terms of per dollar, just as in sales tax, gas tax, etc.. THEY ARE ALREADY PAYING THE SAME...

You can't have your cake and eat it too, wrongwinger

Charity is not the job of government... it is the job of the individual and organizations formed voluntarily by like minded individuals

 

[rightwinger]

And the difference between dollar #10 that you earn and dollar #123003 that I earn is what?? Does it buy more or less milk? Does it not spend the same? Is it unable to pay for the same toll? Does it not work in a Coke machine??

Life is not fair

Our society functions as a whole and the people vote to decide how revenue from that society will be generated

Guess what? Those who have little money are not asked to make the same contribution as those who have immense wealth

The basic concept is that those with very little money have to use that money for basic necessities of life (food, shelter, healthcare....) Those with immense wealth still have immense wealth after they have paid for lifes necessities and are asked to contribute more

Funny, I dont remember a vote for all that stimulus.

Google......Republic

 

[rightwinger]

And the difference between dollar #10 that you earn and dollar #123003 that I earn is what?? Does it buy more or less milk? Does it not spend the same? Is it unable to pay for the same toll? Does it not work in a Coke machine??

Life is not fair

Our society functions as a whole and the people vote to decide how revenue from that society will be generated

Guess what? Those who have little money are not asked to make the same contribution as those who have immense wealth

The basic concept is that those with very little money have to use that money for basic necessities of life (food, shelter, healthcare....) Those with immense wealth still have immense wealth after they have paid for lifes necessities and are asked to contribute more

You are right.. life is not fair.. yet you try and legislate 'fair' into the tax code...

Those with little money in a flat tax system are not making the same contribution.. they are making a lesser total contribution.... but in terms of per dollar, just as in sales tax, gas tax, etc.. THEY ARE ALREADY PAYING THE SAME...

You can't have your cake and eat it too, wrongwinger

Charity is not the job of government... it is the job of the individual and organizations formed voluntarily by like minded individuals

Relying on private charity has not worked since before the Great Depression and it did not work then

Private charity is inherently inefficient since it must expend a large percent of its contributions to generate more contributions. It is also incapable of handling massive loss like we saw in Hurricane Sandy

YES...we do need government charity

 

[DiamondDave]

Life is not fair

Our society functions as a whole and the people vote to decide how revenue from that society will be generated

Guess what? Those who have little money are not asked to make the same contribution as those who have immense wealth

The basic concept is that those with very little money have to use that money for basic necessities of life (food, shelter, healthcare....) Those with immense wealth still have immense wealth after they have paid for lifes necessities and are asked to contribute more

You are right.. life is not fair.. yet you try and legislate 'fair' into the tax code...

Those with little money in a flat tax system are not making the same contribution.. they are making a lesser total contribution.... but in terms of per dollar, just as in sales tax, gas tax, etc.. THEY ARE ALREADY PAYING THE SAME...

You can't have your cake and eat it too, wrongwinger

Charity is not the job of government... it is the job of the individual and organizations formed voluntarily by like minded individuals

Relying on private charity has not worked since before the Great Depression and it did not work then

Private charity is inherently inefficient since it must expend a large percent of its contributions to generate more contributions. It is also incapable of handling massive loss like we saw in Hurricane Sandy

YES...we do need government charity

Inefficient?? No.. You look at many a charity and they are highly efficient.. it is the government that is inefficient

No... we do not need government charity.. and if you feel it is needed, go right ahead with a constitutional amendment to make the government empowered to be a charity, which it is not now... even though that power was grabbed by them for the sake of power long ago

 

[KissMy]

Facts from the IRS: From 2001 to 2007 the people with the highest income got the biggest percentage cuts in their actual tax payments. The middle class had to subsidize the rich even more than before. It is time to end the tax subsidy to the rich. The middle class is tired of carrying your fat ass.

 

[TNHarley]

Facts from the IRS: From 2001 to 2007 the people with the highest income got the biggest percentage cuts in their actual tax payments. The middle class had to subsidize the rich even more than before. It is time to end the tax subsidy to the rich. The middle class is tired of carrying your fat ass.

I wonder if the rich having amazing accountants had anything to do with that? The more educated the person, the more holes to find. Which means less tax. Most middle class people do what? Go to H & R Block or Turbo Tax.

 

[rightwinger]

You are right.. life is not fair.. yet you try and legislate 'fair' into the tax code...

Those with little money in a flat tax system are not making the same contribution.. they are making a lesser total contribution.... but in terms of per dollar, just as in sales tax, gas tax, etc.. THEY ARE ALREADY PAYING THE SAME...

You can't have your cake and eat it too, wrongwinger

Charity is not the job of government... it is the job of the individual and organizations formed voluntarily by like minded individuals

Relying on private charity has not worked since before the Great Depression and it did not work then

Private charity is inherently inefficient since it must expend a large percent of its contributions to generate more contributions. It is also incapable of handling massive loss like we saw in Hurricane Sandy

YES...we do need government charity

Inefficient?? No.. You look at many a charity and they are highly efficient.. it is the government that is inefficient

No... we do not need government charity.. and if you feel it is needed, go right ahead with a constitutional amendment to make the government empowered to be a charity, which it is not now... even though that power was grabbed by them for the sake of power long ago

The government is highly efficient. The tax system and disbursal system has very low overhead. Every dollar a charity spends seeking contributions is one less dollar available to the needy

Explain how private charities would handle the devastation of Hurricane Sandy?

Providing for the General Welfare is already in the Constitution

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Relying on private charity has not worked since before the Great Depression and it did not work then

Private charity is inherently inefficient since it must expend a large percent of its contributions to generate more contributions. It is also incapable of handling massive loss like we saw in Hurricane Sandy

YES...we do need government charity

Inefficient?? No.. You look at many a charity and they are highly efficient.. it is the government that is inefficient

No... we do not need government charity.. and if you feel it is needed, go right ahead with a constitutional amendment to make the government empowered to be a charity, which it is not now... even though that power was grabbed by them for the sake of power long ago

The government is highly efficient. The tax system and disbursal system has very low overhead. Every dollar a charity spends seeking contributions is one less dollar available to the needy

Explain how private charities would handle the devastation of Hurricane Sandy?

Providing for the General Welfare is already in the Constitution

The government is highly efficient?

At what?