To daesh or not to daesh, that is the question.........

[Pogo]

What do call fifty ISILs taken down by drones, laid end to end?

-- A hundred-yard Daesh.

 

[idb]

So many daesh, so few drones.........

"Daeshed inconvenient, I'd say"

 

[ABikerSailor]

I wonder if there is some kind of subliminal message that their followers are holding on to when they call themselves "ISIS"? Do they secretly hope for (or believe) that they are going to get divine help from the goddess?

Do their followers believe that somehow they are hooking into a divine force?

And..............fwiw..................Isis is what the Egyptian goddess is called in almost all languages, because it's origin is Egyptian, and that is the proper term.

Sure, but in order to get the acronym -- you need English as a vehicle. Which as far as I can tell is not their mother tongue.
In other words whatever they call themselves in Arabic --- can't be "ISIS".

You're correct. ISIS stands for "Islamic State In Syria", and uses the English to get that particular acronym.

However.................remember..................in advertising, they tend to look for the strongest name that they can, because if is something that can be associated with something good that already exists (look at many car names for that, as well as many other products), because that will help with the branding and the sales.

Sure, but BMW was named for the German market before it got here -- I doubt many people know it stands for Bayerischen Motor Werken. Or that Subaru is the Japanese name for the Pleiades. Those weren't named for the English market.

I always thought "ISIS/ISIL" was the name the English-speaking media came up with for them, having no idea what they call themselves locally. Is that inaccurate? Do we think they came up with it themselves?

Daesh is an acronym as well, and it means basically "something that tramples everything in its path", which isn't nearly as catchy as calling themselves ISIS.

ISIS already existed and was widely known to be the Egyptian goddess Mother Earth. Maybe the reason they worked so hard on the name was to get that association.

Either way, I'm still gonna call them Daesh.

Agreed.
But I only came up with two bad puns.

Well --- so far....

Nope, ISIL and ISIS were two of the names that they came up with for themselves.

Daesh is an Arabic acronym for them and they don't like that one.

Nope, the media didn't come up with the name, they did.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

We are the USA, they are ISIS, and away we go.

Are they a state?

Islamic State...

Can anyone declare a state...anywhere...anytime?
What's the protocol?

For men with guns, there isn't one. It's not we asked permission now did we?

Nor do you have to recognise it.

Kind of hard to ignore them currently, but we don't have to be best friends.

 

[idb]

Are they a state?

Islamic State...

Can anyone declare a state...anywhere...anytime?
What's the protocol?

For men with guns, there isn't one. It's not we asked permission now did we?

Nor do you have to recognise it.

Kind of hard to ignore them currently, but we don't have to be best friends.

Not recognising them as a state is not the same as ignoring them.

 

[Pogo]

I wonder if there is some kind of subliminal message that their followers are holding on to when they call themselves "ISIS"? Do they secretly hope for (or believe) that they are going to get divine help from the goddess?

Do their followers believe that somehow they are hooking into a divine force?

And..............fwiw..................Isis is what the Egyptian goddess is called in almost all languages, because it's origin is Egyptian, and that is the proper term.

Sure, but in order to get the acronym -- you need English as a vehicle. Which as far as I can tell is not their mother tongue.
In other words whatever they call themselves in Arabic --- can't be "ISIS".

You're correct. ISIS stands for "Islamic State In Syria", and uses the English to get that particular acronym.

However.................remember..................in advertising, they tend to look for the strongest name that they can, because if is something that can be associated with something good that already exists (look at many car names for that, as well as many other products), because that will help with the branding and the sales.

Sure, but BMW was named for the German market before it got here -- I doubt many people know it stands for Bayerischen Motor Werken. Or that Subaru is the Japanese name for the Pleiades. Those weren't named for the English market.

I always thought "ISIS/ISIL" was the name the English-speaking media came up with for them, having no idea what they call themselves locally. Is that inaccurate? Do we think they came up with it themselves?

Daesh is an acronym as well, and it means basically "something that tramples everything in its path", which isn't nearly as catchy as calling themselves ISIS.

ISIS already existed and was widely known to be the Egyptian goddess Mother Earth. Maybe the reason they worked so hard on the name was to get that association.

Either way, I'm still gonna call them Daesh.

Agreed.
But I only came up with two bad puns.

Well --- so far....

Nope, ISIL and ISIS were two of the names that they came up with for themselves.

Daesh is an Arabic acronym for them and they don't like that one.

Nope, the media didn't come up with the name, they did.

I wasn't aware of that, nor would I have expected it. Wonder what that says about their agenda. Regardless, if it's their own name then calling them the same name as a goddess is right out. Daesh Daesh Daesh, come cut my tongue out, Daeshbags.

 

[idb]

I wonder if there is some kind of subliminal message that their followers are holding on to when they call themselves "ISIS"? Do they secretly hope for (or believe) that they are going to get divine help from the goddess?

Do their followers believe that somehow they are hooking into a divine force?

And..............fwiw..................Isis is what the Egyptian goddess is called in almost all languages, because it's origin is Egyptian, and that is the proper term.

Sure, but in order to get the acronym -- you need English as a vehicle. Which as far as I can tell is not their mother tongue.
In other words whatever they call themselves in Arabic --- can't be "ISIS".

You're correct. ISIS stands for "Islamic State In Syria", and uses the English to get that particular acronym.

However.................remember..................in advertising, they tend to look for the strongest name that they can, because if is something that can be associated with something good that already exists (look at many car names for that, as well as many other products), because that will help with the branding and the sales.

Sure, but BMW was named for the German market before it got here -- I doubt many people know it stands for Bayerischen Motor Werken. Or that Subaru is the Japanese name for the Pleiades. Those weren't named for the English market.

I always thought "ISIS/ISIL" was the name the English-speaking media came up with for them, having no idea what they call themselves locally. Is that inaccurate? Do we think they came up with it themselves?

Daesh is an acronym as well, and it means basically "something that tramples everything in its path", which isn't nearly as catchy as calling themselves ISIS.

ISIS already existed and was widely known to be the Egyptian goddess Mother Earth. Maybe the reason they worked so hard on the name was to get that association.

Either way, I'm still gonna call them Daesh.

Agreed.
But I only came up with two bad puns.

Well --- so far....

Nope, ISIL and ISIS were two of the names that they came up with for themselves.

Daesh is an Arabic acronym for them and they don't like that one.

Nope, the media didn't come up with the name, they did.

I wasn't aware of that, nor would I have expected it. Wonder what that says about their agenda. Regardless, if it's their own name then calling them the same name as a goddess is right out. Daesh Daesh Daesh, come cut my tongue out, Daeshbags.

"Daeshbags"...nice.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I like the term Daeshbags. Has a certain ring to it.

Good job Pogo!

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Islamic State...

Can anyone declare a state...anywhere...anytime?
What's the protocol?

For men with guns, there isn't one. It's not we asked permission now did we?

Nor do you have to recognise it.

Kind of hard to ignore them currently, but we don't have to be best friends.

Not recognising them as a state is not the same as ignoring them.

Well at this point we are bombing the shit out of something eh...

 

[Pogo]

I like the term Daeshbags. Has a certain ring to it.

Good job Pogo!

Let's get the media on it right away. Oh wait, I'm a Liberal so I must know all those people. I bet they're in my address book.

 

[idb]

Can anyone declare a state...anywhere...anytime?
What's the protocol?

For men with guns, there isn't one. It's not we asked permission now did we?

Nor do you have to recognise it.

Kind of hard to ignore them currently, but we don't have to be best friends.

Not recognising them as a state is not the same as ignoring them.

Well at this point we are bombing the shit out of something eh...

Apparently so.
A criminal gang in my view.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

For men with guns, there isn't one. It's not we asked permission now did we?

Nor do you have to recognise it.

Kind of hard to ignore them currently, but we don't have to be best friends.

Not recognising them as a state is not the same as ignoring them.

Well at this point we are bombing the shit out of something eh...

Apparently so.
A criminal gang in my view.

Big gang, and they control a shitload of nothing but it's big, really big.

 

[TemplarKormac]

ISIS whining about being referred to as Daesh. What a bunch of girly men. So, I have a new name for them:

It's Mrs. Daesh now. Chicken flavored Jihadis.

 

[idb]

Nor do you have to recognise it.

Kind of hard to ignore them currently, but we don't have to be best friends.

Not recognising them as a state is not the same as ignoring them.

Well at this point we are bombing the shit out of something eh...

Apparently so.
A criminal gang in my view.

Big gang, and they control a shitload of nothing but it's big, really big.

Oh, yes!

 

[Pogo]

ISIS whining about being referred to as Daesh. What a bunch of girly men. So, I have a new name for them:

It's Mrs. Daesh now. Chicken flavored Jihadis.

Good, that oughta sell well and make a prophet.