Time for Hillary to strike while the iron is hot

[CrusaderFrank]

Trump does not pay taxes and brags about it

Time for Hillary to ask......What would Bernie do?

Rather than call Trump a deadbeat, freeloader and hypocrite, Hillary needs to directly state she intends to repeal these tax benefits exploited by the wealthy. Then directly ask Trump if he supports repealing them

Force Trump to admit that he not only enjoys the benefits of these laws but will fight to keep them in place




.

She already killed Seth Rich, threatened Bernie and likely threatened Assange...who is she striking next?

 

[Flopper]

Trump does not pay taxes and brags about it

Time for Hillary to ask......What would Bernie do?

Rather than call Trump a deadbeat, freeloader and hypocrite, Hillary needs to directly state she intends to repeal these tax benefits exploited by the wealthy. Then directly ask Trump if he supports repealing them

Force Trump to admit that he not only enjoys the benefits of these laws but will fight to keep them in place




.

Yeah -- STRIKE. .And demonstrate the systemic stupidity of not understanding risk capital and capital gains.
Have a bunch of tourniquets and bandages ready tho..

Do you really think laws allowing people with as much money as Trump claims to have to avoid taxes for 18 years are a good thing? Really?

He didn't MAKE money on a regular basis. Lost a literal fortune. If you apply that to a pharmaceutical company where only 20% or less of their drugs MAKE it to market -- there would be NO Pharmaceutical research ANYWHERE in the world..

Same with the Venture Capital that runs the start-up star chambers. Having 3 successes out of 10 investments is a phenomenal success. Grow up and realize what innovation and risk entails and stop believing it's just another way to get a paycheck...

There is no hard information to draw your conclusions. Trump's business is a private business. The Trump Organization is not required to release earnings or financial information to the public. They release what is to their advantage to release. Trump claims his net worth is around 9 billion. Bloomberg estimates it at 4.5 billion and Forbes pegs it at 3.2 billion.

What we do know is Trump screwed up badly in his casino ventures to the tune of near a billion dollars at a time when casinos in the US were doing very well. We also know that Trump took over his fathers business in the mid 70's which had an estimated value of 200 million. Growing 200 million to 5 billion in 40 years does not take any exceptional business skills. In fact, Trump would have been better off financially it he had invested the family's fortune in 30 year treasury bonds and stuck to the life a playboy.

 

[Lakhota]

Hillary does not pay taxes and lies about it. Time for Trump to ask Hillary about the dozens of women Bill has molested and his black love child.

Are you really that stupid? The Clinton taxes have been a matter of public record for decades. The Clintons "release" their tax records. In fact, it was even reported recently on CNN or MSNBC that Hillary even pays MORE than required.

 

[westwall]

Trump does not pay taxes and brags about it

Time for Hillary to ask......What would Bernie do?

Rather than call Trump a deadbeat, freeloader and hypocrite, Hillary needs to directly state she intends to repeal these tax benefits exploited by the wealthy. Then directly ask Trump if he supports repealing them

Force Trump to admit that he not only enjoys the benefits of these laws but will fight to keep them in place




.

Yeah -- STRIKE. .And demonstrate the systemic stupidity of not understanding risk capital and capital gains.
Have a bunch of tourniquets and bandages ready tho..

Do you really think laws allowing people with as much money as Trump claims to have to avoid taxes for 18 years are a good thing? Really?

He didn't MAKE money on a regular basis. Lost a literal fortune. If you apply that to a pharmaceutical company where only 20% or less of their drugs MAKE it to market -- there would be NO Pharmaceutical research ANYWHERE in the world..

Same with the Venture Capital that runs the start-up star chambers. Having 3 successes out of 10 investments is a phenomenal success. Grow up and realize what innovation and risk entails and stop believing it's just another way to get a paycheck...

There is no hard information to draw your conclusions. Trump's business is a private business. The Trump Organization is not required to release earnings or financial information to the public. They release what is to their advantage to release. Trump claims his net worth is around 9 billion. Bloomberg estimates it at 4.5 billion and Forbes pegs it at 3.2 billion.

What we do know is Trump screwed up badly in his casino ventures to the tune of near a billion dollars at a time when casinos in the US were doing very well. We also know that Trump took over his fathers business in the mid 70's which had an estimated value of 200 million. Growing 200 million to 5 billion in 40 years does not take any exceptional business skills. In fact, Trump would have been better off financially it he had invested the family's fortune in 30 year treasury bonds and stuck to the life a playboy.

That is untrue. He had already sold most of his interests in the casino's, and he did so just before the widespread advent of the Indian Casino's that have made massive inroads into the casino industry. I LIVE in Nevada. ALL of the casino's here have been struggling to survive as the economy fell, and the indian casino's stole business. You have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[Lilah]

Trump does not pay taxes and brags about it

Time for Hillary to ask......What would Bernie do?

Rather than call Trump a deadbeat, freeloader and hypocrite, Hillary needs to directly state she intends to repeal these tax benefits exploited by the wealthy. Then directly ask Trump if he supports repealing them

Force Trump to admit that he not only enjoys the benefits of these laws but will fight to keep them in place




.

Yeah -- STRIKE. .And demonstrate the systemic stupidity of not understanding risk capital and capital gains.
Have a bunch of tourniquets and bandages ready tho..

I'm game

Tax capital gains the same as you tax income from the sweat of your labor

And if that risk capital turns into a loss -- is that NOT negative income from investments?

You have no concept of RISKING anything to CREATE things. That's why you're a leftist who wants to CONTROL investments like regular income. It"s NOT regular income Jack. It's an INVESTMENT.. And there is no GUARANTEE that you will GET income from it..

That is why they call it risk

Having the taxpayers bail you out when you fail is not risk



.

The taxpayers bailed out Wall Street and Hillary took millions from them.

 

[Tom Horn]

Trump does not pay taxes and brags about it

Time for Hillary to ask......What would Bernie do?

Maybe Bernie could tell us why he's worth maybe a million dollars and Hillary is worth over $200M.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump does not pay taxes and brags about it

Time for Hillary to ask......What would Bernie do?

Rather than call Trump a deadbeat, freeloader and hypocrite, Hillary needs to directly state she intends to repeal these tax benefits exploited by the wealthy. Then directly ask Trump if he supports repealing them

Force Trump to admit that he not only enjoys the benefits of these laws but will fight to keep them in place




.

Yeah -- STRIKE. .And demonstrate the systemic stupidity of not understanding risk capital and capital gains.
Have a bunch of tourniquets and bandages ready tho..

I'm game

Tax capital gains the same as you tax income from the sweat of your labor

And if that risk capital turns into a loss -- is that NOT negative income from investments?

You have no concept of RISKING anything to CREATE things. That's why you're a leftist who wants to CONTROL investments like regular income. It"s NOT regular income Jack. It's an INVESTMENT.. And there is no GUARANTEE that you will GET income from it..

That is why they call it risk

Having the taxpayers bail you out when you fail is not risk

There was no LOSS to the taxpayers, because NO NET MONEY WAS made.. Go back and read what I said about Pharm companies. When THEY FAIL --- you want to punish THEM???

That's not an America that's EVER gonna lead the world in ANYTHING. And why you leftists need to be defeated before you screw up what's left..

There was a LOSS of future tax revenue

 

[rightwinger]

Trump does not pay taxes and brags about it

Time for Hillary to ask......What would Bernie do?

Rather than call Trump a deadbeat, freeloader and hypocrite, Hillary needs to directly state she intends to repeal these tax benefits exploited by the wealthy. Then directly ask Trump if he supports repealing them

Force Trump to admit that he not only enjoys the benefits of these laws but will fight to keep them in place




.

She already killed Seth Rich, threatened Bernie and likely threatened Assange...who is she striking next?

Actually she killed Col Mustard in the Conservatory with a candlestick

 

[easyt65]

Trump does not pay taxes and brags about it

Time for Hillary to ask......What would Bernie do?

Rather than call Trump a deadbeat, freeloader and hypocrite, Hillary needs to directly state she intends to repeal these tax benefits exploited by the wealthy. Then directly ask Trump if he supports repealing them

Force Trump to admit that he not only enjoys the benefits of these laws but will fight to keep them in place
.

RW, what do you and other liberals have against people who OBEY THE LAW?

So you want to call a man who obeys the law, follows all the rules, complies with all the regulations a 'deadbeat', a 'freeloader', and a 'hypocrite'?!

That's some f*-ed up shit, man! Way to TWIST reality and make a law-abiding citizen the criminal, unlike the current President and DNC candidate who have no respect for the law and have repeatedly violated it.

Tell me, RW, what law has Trump violated...besides your 'liberal law' of having to agree with / BE a liberal or be found 'guilty'?!

Go ahead and say it - we all know the answer: TRUMP HAS NOT BROKEN ANY LAWS REGARDING PAYING HIS TAXES! And that - and his refusal to release his full tax returns - is what is eating the sh!t out of you liberals!

You know part of the issue is you are jealous as hell because Trump has accomplished something you WISH you could do - get away with paying no taxes. EVERYONE on this board knows deep down if they could get away with paying as little - or no - taxes as possible they would do so in a heartbeat!

You want to rail on someone for Trump paying no taxes, then why don't you rail on Charlie 'Repeat Offender Tax Cheat / Dodger' Rangel?! THAT Liberal MFer is one of the politicians who WRITES the US Tax Code....and DESPITE that he has been busted NUMEROUS times hiding income from the IRS, refusing to pay his taxes, etc!

Instead of going to jail....instead of having to pay a fine....instead of having to pay interest on the money he owed....instead of paying a Late Fee - LIKE ANY / ALL OF US WOULD HAVE TO DO - he was allowed to just pay the original REAL amount he owed. And his fat criminal ass has not been punished by the Ethics committee, was not forced out of office, and is STILL in Congress!




So you want to make Trump out to be one of 'America's most Wanted' because he obeyed the law, followed Rangel's Tax Code (which is something Rangel couldn't / wouldn't even do), and legally submitted his taxes?




Again WHAT do you Liberals have against law-abiding tax-paying citizens?

2 Presidents in US history have used the IRS as a weapon against American Citizens - Bill Clinton and Barry Obama.

Barry and the Libs went as far as ramming a minority-supported piece of Liberal agenda into law against the will of the majority of Americans who opposed it, a law which FORCED Americans to buy a product the Liberals demanded they buy or be punished with a punitive tax!

And now libs like yourself want to vilify, demonize, and attack an American citizen for legally following the US Tax Code, that was partially written by a repeat-offender Tax Evader/Cheat?




Welcome to the Socialist Democratic States of America...

.....will the last REAL American out please bring the flag?!

 

[flacaltenn]

Trump does not pay taxes and brags about it

Time for Hillary to ask......What would Bernie do?

Rather than call Trump a deadbeat, freeloader and hypocrite, Hillary needs to directly state she intends to repeal these tax benefits exploited by the wealthy. Then directly ask Trump if he supports repealing them

Force Trump to admit that he not only enjoys the benefits of these laws but will fight to keep them in place




.

Yeah -- STRIKE. .And demonstrate the systemic stupidity of not understanding risk capital and capital gains.
Have a bunch of tourniquets and bandages ready tho..

Do you really think laws allowing people with as much money as Trump claims to have to avoid taxes for 18 years are a good thing? Really?

He didn't MAKE money on a regular basis. Lost a literal fortune. If you apply that to a pharmaceutical company where only 20% or less of their drugs MAKE it to market -- there would be NO Pharmaceutical research ANYWHERE in the world..

Same with the Venture Capital that runs the start-up star chambers. Having 3 successes out of 10 investments is a phenomenal success. Grow up and realize what innovation and risk entails and stop believing it's just another way to get a paycheck...

There is no hard information to draw your conclusions. Trump's business is a private business. The Trump Organization is not required to release earnings or financial information to the public. They release what is to their advantage to release. Trump claims his net worth is around 9 billion. Bloomberg estimates it at 4.5 billion and Forbes pegs it at 3.2 billion.

What we do know is Trump screwed up badly in his casino ventures to the tune of near a billion dollars at a time when casinos in the US were doing very well. We also know that Trump took over his fathers business in the mid 70's which had an estimated value of 200 million. Growing 200 million to 5 billion in 40 years does not take any exceptional business skills. In fact, Trump would have been better off financially it he had invested the family's fortune in 30 year treasury bonds and stuck to the life a playboy.

That didn't stop the NYTimes from STEALING a portion of one year's taxes and jumping to conclusions -- did it?

Nobody on the leftist meme of "socialized losses" even understands what tax advantage a "capital loss" really gives. It does NOT void your total tax bill. It can only be declared against "capital gains". And is strictly a bookkeeping entry for investment PROFIT. No profit -- no Cap. Gains taxes. But YOU STILL pay on regular income, interest income, and FICA.

 

[flacaltenn]

Trump does not pay taxes and brags about it

Time for Hillary to ask......What would Bernie do?

Rather than call Trump a deadbeat, freeloader and hypocrite, Hillary needs to directly state she intends to repeal these tax benefits exploited by the wealthy. Then directly ask Trump if he supports repealing them

Force Trump to admit that he not only enjoys the benefits of these laws but will fight to keep them in place




.

Yeah -- STRIKE. .And demonstrate the systemic stupidity of not understanding risk capital and capital gains.
Have a bunch of tourniquets and bandages ready tho..

I'm game

Tax capital gains the same as you tax income from the sweat of your labor

And if that risk capital turns into a loss -- is that NOT negative income from investments?

You have no concept of RISKING anything to CREATE things. That's why you're a leftist who wants to CONTROL investments like regular income. It"s NOT regular income Jack. It's an INVESTMENT.. And there is no GUARANTEE that you will GET income from it..

That is why they call it risk

Having the taxpayers bail you out when you fail is not risk



.

There is no bail-out on cap gains losses. Do you want a Pharma company to not balance it's risk losses with risk gains before you determine what profit they made? Wouldn't be a single one left in the business..

You've got this ass backwards.. It's the Pharma company losing 4 drugs for every one they market. THAT'S why it's so expensive. You remove that accounting for taxing only PROFIT --- and the entire market would crash.

Tell me how you avoid that..

 

[rightwinger]

Trump does not pay taxes and brags about it

Time for Hillary to ask......What would Bernie do?

Rather than call Trump a deadbeat, freeloader and hypocrite, Hillary needs to directly state she intends to repeal these tax benefits exploited by the wealthy. Then directly ask Trump if he supports repealing them

Force Trump to admit that he not only enjoys the benefits of these laws but will fight to keep them in place
.

RW, what do you and other liberals have against people who OBEY THE LAW?

So you want to call a man who obeys the law, follows all the rules, complies with all the regulations a 'deadbeat', a 'freeloader', and a 'hypocrite'?!

That's some f*-ed up shit, man! Way to TWIST reality and make a law-abiding citizen the criminal, unlike the current President and DNC candidate who have no respect for the law and have repeatedly violated it.

Tell me, RW, what law has Trump violated...besides your 'liberal law' of having to agree with / BE a liberal or be found 'guilty'?!

Go ahead and say it - we all know the answer: TRUMP HAS NOT BROKEN ANY LAWS REGARDING PAYING HIS TAXES! And that - and his refusal to release his full tax returns - is what is eating the sh!t out of you liberals!

You know part of the issue is you are jealous as hell because Trump has accomplished something you WISH you could do - get away with paying no taxes. EVERYONE on this board knows deep down if they could get away with paying as little - or no - taxes as possible they would do so in a heartbeat!

You want to rail on someone for Trump paying no taxes, then why don't you rail on Charlie 'Repeat Offender Tax Cheat / Dodger' Rangel?! THAT Liberal MFer is one of the politicians who WRITES the US Tax Code....and DESPITE that he has been busted NUMEROUS times hiding income from the IRS, refusing to pay his taxes, etc!

Instead of going to jail....instead of having to pay a fine....instead of having to pay interest on the money he owed....instead of paying a Late Fee - LIKE ANY / ALL OF US WOULD HAVE TO DO - he was allowed to just pay the original REAL amount he owed. And his fat criminal ass has not been punished by the Ethics committee, was not forced out of office, and is STILL in Congress!




So you want to make Trump out to be one of 'America's most Wanted' because he obeyed the law, followed Rangel's Tax Code (which is something Rangel couldn't / wouldn't even do), and legally submitted his taxes?




Again WHAT do you Liberals have against law-abiding tax-paying citizens?

2 Presidents in US history have used the IRS as a weapon against American Citizens - Bill Clinton and Barry Obama.

Barry and the Libs went as far as ramming a minority-supported piece of Liberal agenda into law against the will of the majority of Americans who opposed it, a law which FORCED Americans to buy a product the Liberals demanded they buy or be punished with a punitive tax!

And now libs like yourself want to vilify, demonize, and attack an American citizen for legally following the US Tax Code, that was partially written by a repeat-offender Tax Evader/Cheat?




Welcome to the Socialist Democratic States of America...

.....will the last REAL American out please bring the flag?!

Nobody is recommending Trump go to jail

However, he is as responsible for his finances as he holds a struggling working family who also use the tax laws to not pay taxes

Trump condemning working Americans for not paying taxes while he, himself avoids paying any taxes is the ultimate hypocrisy

 

[rightwinger]

Trump does not pay taxes and brags about it

Time for Hillary to ask......What would Bernie do?

Rather than call Trump a deadbeat, freeloader and hypocrite, Hillary needs to directly state she intends to repeal these tax benefits exploited by the wealthy. Then directly ask Trump if he supports repealing them

Force Trump to admit that he not only enjoys the benefits of these laws but will fight to keep them in place




.

Yeah -- STRIKE. .And demonstrate the systemic stupidity of not understanding risk capital and capital gains.
Have a bunch of tourniquets and bandages ready tho..

I'm game

Tax capital gains the same as you tax income from the sweat of your labor

And if that risk capital turns into a loss -- is that NOT negative income from investments?

You have no concept of RISKING anything to CREATE things. That's why you're a leftist who wants to CONTROL investments like regular income. It"s NOT regular income Jack. It's an INVESTMENT.. And there is no GUARANTEE that you will GET income from it..

That is why they call it risk

Having the taxpayers bail you out when you fail is not risk



.

There is no bail-out on cap gains losses. Do you want a Pharma company to not balance it's risk losses with risk gains before you determine what profit they made? Wouldn't be a single one left in the business..

You've got this ass backwards.. It's the Pharma company losing 4 drugs for every one they market. THAT'S why it's so expensive. You remove that accounting for taxing only PROFIT --- and the entire market would crash.

Tell me how you avoid that..

These are Trumps personal taxes not his corporate taxes

 

[flacaltenn]

Yeah -- STRIKE. .And demonstrate the systemic stupidity of not understanding risk capital and capital gains.
Have a bunch of tourniquets and bandages ready tho..

I'm game

Tax capital gains the same as you tax income from the sweat of your labor

And if that risk capital turns into a loss -- is that NOT negative income from investments?

You have no concept of RISKING anything to CREATE things. That's why you're a leftist who wants to CONTROL investments like regular income. It"s NOT regular income Jack. It's an INVESTMENT.. And there is no GUARANTEE that you will GET income from it..

That is why they call it risk

Having the taxpayers bail you out when you fail is not risk



.

There is no bail-out on cap gains losses. Do you want a Pharma company to not balance it's risk losses with risk gains before you determine what profit they made? Wouldn't be a single one left in the business..

You've got this ass backwards.. It's the Pharma company losing 4 drugs for every one they market. THAT'S why it's so expensive. You remove that accounting for taxing only PROFIT --- and the entire market would crash.

Tell me how you avoid that..

These are Trumps personal taxes not his corporate taxes

Doesn't matter since Cap Gains and Corporate gains both allow a balancing of loss/gain before taxes are calculated on profit. How do keep pharma companies laying out $$BILLS in risk when you tax every dollar of profit without considering the losses?

 

[flacaltenn]

Or a gambler.. Who actually states and files their taxes? THEY are allowed to carry losses -- IF they actually adhere to the rules.

 

[rightwinger]

I'm game

Tax capital gains the same as you tax income from the sweat of your labor

And if that risk capital turns into a loss -- is that NOT negative income from investments?

You have no concept of RISKING anything to CREATE things. That's why you're a leftist who wants to CONTROL investments like regular income. It"s NOT regular income Jack. It's an INVESTMENT.. And there is no GUARANTEE that you will GET income from it..

That is why they call it risk

Having the taxpayers bail you out when you fail is not risk



.

There is no bail-out on cap gains losses. Do you want a Pharma company to not balance it's risk losses with risk gains before you determine what profit they made? Wouldn't be a single one left in the business..

You've got this ass backwards.. It's the Pharma company losing 4 drugs for every one they market. THAT'S why it's so expensive. You remove that accounting for taxing only PROFIT --- and the entire market would crash.

Tell me how you avoid that..

These are Trumps personal taxes not his corporate taxes

Doesn't matter since Cap Gains and Corporate gains both allow a balancing of loss/gain before taxes are calculated on profit. How do keep pharma companies laying out $$BILLS in risk when you tax every dollar of profit without considering the losses?

I don't give a damn if a CEO at a big pharma lost his personal money
I also don't care if Trump lost his own money....he does not care if I lost mine

 

[JoeMoma]

And if that risk capital turns into a loss -- is that NOT negative income from investments?

You have no concept of RISKING anything to CREATE things. That's why you're a leftist who wants to CONTROL investments like regular income. It"s NOT regular income Jack. It's an INVESTMENT.. And there is no GUARANTEE that you will GET income from it..

That is why they call it risk

Having the taxpayers bail you out when you fail is not risk



.

There is no bail-out on cap gains losses. Do you want a Pharma company to not balance it's risk losses with risk gains before you determine what profit they made? Wouldn't be a single one left in the business..

You've got this ass backwards.. It's the Pharma company losing 4 drugs for every one they market. THAT'S why it's so expensive. You remove that accounting for taxing only PROFIT --- and the entire market would crash.

Tell me how you avoid that..

These are Trumps personal taxes not his corporate taxes

Doesn't matter since Cap Gains and Corporate gains both allow a balancing of loss/gain before taxes are calculated on profit. How do keep pharma companies laying out $$BILLS in risk when you tax every dollar of profit without considering the losses?

I don't give a damn if a CEO at a big pharma lost his personal money
I also don't care if Trump lost his own money....he does not care if I lost mine

But do you care if big pharma companies quit researching and developing new drugs altogether because it isn't worth the risk?

 

[flacaltenn]

And if that risk capital turns into a loss -- is that NOT negative income from investments?

You have no concept of RISKING anything to CREATE things. That's why you're a leftist who wants to CONTROL investments like regular income. It"s NOT regular income Jack. It's an INVESTMENT.. And there is no GUARANTEE that you will GET income from it..

That is why they call it risk

Having the taxpayers bail you out when you fail is not risk



.

There is no bail-out on cap gains losses. Do you want a Pharma company to not balance it's risk losses with risk gains before you determine what profit they made? Wouldn't be a single one left in the business..

You've got this ass backwards.. It's the Pharma company losing 4 drugs for every one they market. THAT'S why it's so expensive. You remove that accounting for taxing only PROFIT --- and the entire market would crash.

Tell me how you avoid that..

These are Trumps personal taxes not his corporate taxes

Doesn't matter since Cap Gains and Corporate gains both allow a balancing of loss/gain before taxes are calculated on profit. How do keep pharma companies laying out $$BILLS in risk when you tax every dollar of profit without considering the losses?

I don't give a damn if a CEO at a big pharma lost his personal money
I also don't care if Trump lost his own money....he does not care if I lost mine

Actually he MIGHT care. Because if you sustained a biz loss as a sole proprietor, or as a gambler, or as a investor in equities and bonds ---- YOU get the same Cap Gains treatment as he does...

Tissue???

 

[yiostheoy]

Trump does not pay taxes and brags about it

Time for Hillary to ask......What would Bernie do?

Rather than call Trump a deadbeat, freeloader and hypocrite, Hillary needs to directly state she intends to repeal these tax benefits exploited by the wealthy. Then directly ask Trump if he supports repealing them

Force Trump to admit that he not only enjoys the benefits of these laws but will fight to keep them in place




.

Hillary already has a really great line in "what kind of genius loses $1 billion in 1 year ?!"

Especially since the myth Donald is running on is his "business acumen."

If she can work that line into the next debate somehow then Donald will become completely unglued and probably flip his wig.

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump does not pay taxes and brags about it

Time for Hillary to ask......What would Bernie do?

Rather than call Trump a deadbeat, freeloader and hypocrite, Hillary needs to directly state she intends to repeal these tax benefits exploited by the wealthy. Then directly ask Trump if he supports repealing them

Force Trump to admit that he not only enjoys the benefits of these laws but will fight to keep them in place




.

Yeah -- STRIKE. .And demonstrate the systemic stupidity of not understanding risk capital and capital gains.
Have a bunch of tourniquets and bandages ready tho..

Do you really think laws allowing people with as much money as Trump claims to have to avoid taxes for 18 years are a good thing? Really?

He didn't MAKE money on a regular basis. Lost a literal fortune. If you apply that to a pharmaceutical company where only 20% or less of their drugs MAKE it to market -- there would be NO Pharmaceutical research ANYWHERE in the world..

Same with the Venture Capital that runs the start-up star chambers. Having 3 successes out of 10 investments is a phenomenal success. Grow up and realize what innovation and risk entails and stop believing it's just another way to get a paycheck...

I already said I know there are risks. I just don't think I should be responsible for their risk. If they lose money, it should be their money. Not the tax payers. Yes, I know they pay taxes on profits. Big deal. I pay taxes too.

How is it the taxpayers' money when they lose? That makes no sense.

They deduct their losses from their taxes. You mean you did't know that?