Tim Burton’s Batman movies ???

[Quasar44]

What is your opinion


89 Batman does have nice atmosphere and the Joker by Jack is superb but the story is weak and choppy with no flow . Also Batman is very underdeveloped . Ending is cool


Returns - Winter atmosphere is cool but Batman is not used well and disappearance a lot in movie . Cat women was good but penguin is literally a F penguin ???


Both movies have not aged well and both have so so action but 89 is better

 

[Etymology gaslight]

This is heresy.

 

[Quasar44]

3 best are

2008 , Dark Knight- Masterpiece

2005 - Batman Begins -superb origin story

2022- The Batman- good detective story

 

[toobfreak]

What is your opinion

The first Tim Burton Batman movie with Keaton was the best of the Batman movies for the excellent and original portrayal of Gotham City. But I found Keaton himself a bit weak in the role because he was just too short and not muscular enough to play Batman.

Overall, I found The Dark Knight to be the best overall complete movie though I did rather enjoy Nicholson's Joker more than any of the other super villains.

Runner Up: When Batman was flying his Bat Plane and the Joker shot him down one-handed with a vest-carried pistol with a 3' long barrel.

 

[toobfreak]

Returns - Winter atmosphere is cool but Batman is not used well and disappearance a lot in movie . Cat women was good but penguin is literally a F penguin ???

Keep in mind that Batman Returns with Danny DeVito as Penguin was actually a Christmas movie.

Also, the original Tim Burton Batmobile was the best. They got progressively worse with each movie culminating in a Batmobile with a sailfish fin on top and blue lights glowing inside.

The Batmobile used by Christian Bale was interesting but had a lot of misgivings for being the Batmobile.

 

[mudwhistle]

What is your opinion


89 Batman does have nice atmosphere and the Joker by Jack is superb but the story is weak and choppy with no flow . Also Batman is very underdeveloped . Ending is cool


Returns - Winter atmosphere is cool but Batman is not used well and disappearance a lot in movie . Cat women was good but penguin is literally a F penguin ???


Both movies have not aged well and both have so so action but 89 is better

They were still better than the mess they made of Batman later.

Val Kilmer and "what's his face" really screwed up the franchise.

Christian Bale brought it back a bit.

Afleck was a better Batman than all of them. Maybe not a better Bruce Wayne....but he was the best Batman.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

3 best are

2008 , Dark Knight- Masterpiece

2005 - Batman Begins -superb origin story

2022- The Batman- good detective story

It's a great arena wonderful people.
I'm a big Tim Burton fan,
Can see how people like them all.

 

[Quasar44]

The first Tim Burton Batman movie with Keaton was the best of the Batman movies for the excellent and original portrayal of Gotham City. But I found Keaton himself a bit weak in the role because he was just too short and not muscular enough to play Batman.

Overall, I found The Dark Knight to be the best overall complete movie though I did rather enjoy Nicholson's Joker more than any of the other super villains.

Runner Up: When Batman was flying his Bat Plane and the Joker shot him down one-handed with a vest-carried pistol with a 3' long barrel.

Did you see the Batman ???

 

[Quasar44]

Keep in mind that Batman Returns with Danny DeVito as Penguin was actually a Christmas movie.

Also, the original Tim Burton Batmobile was the best. They got progressively worse with each movie culminating in a Batmobile with a sailfish fin on top and blue lights glowing inside.

The Batmobile used by Christian Bale was interesting but had a lot of misgivings for being the Batmobile.

Few cool scenes was win he used the Batmobile to drop a bomb and obliterate dozens of guys at the factory or when he flame throwerd a pyro guy to death or strapped a bomb to that huge dude

 

[toobfreak]

Did you see the Batman ???

The 2022 Batman? No.

 

[Quasar44]

The 2022 Batman? No.

It’s very good and way better than DKR !!!
It’s a detective story

Does drag on in 3rd act and is semi woke but still good

 

[Harry Dresden]

The first Tim Burton Batman movie with Keaton was the best of the Batman movies for the excellent and original portrayal of Gotham City. But I found Keaton himself a bit weak in the role because he was just too short and not muscular enough to play Batman.

Overall, I found The Dark Knight to be the best overall complete movie though I did rather enjoy Nicholson's Joker more than any of the other super villains.

Runner Up: When Batman was flying his Bat Plane and the Joker shot him down one-handed with a vest-carried pistol with a 3' long barrel.

The first Tim Burton Batman movie with Keaton was the best of the Batman movies for the excellent and original portrayal of Gotham City. But I found Keaton himself a bit weak in the role because he was just too short and not muscular enough to play Batman.
i agree with you here.....he made Gotham City look like some of the earlier comics depictions....Keaton was definitely to small even though i thought he did Bruce Wayne pretty decent...

 

[Etymology gaslight]

The first Tim Burton Batman movie with Keaton was the best of the Batman movies for the excellent and original portrayal of Gotham City. But I found Keaton himself a bit weak in the role because he was just too short and not muscular enough to play Batman.

Overall, I found The Dark Knight to be the best overall complete movie though I did rather enjoy Nicholson's Joker more than any of the other super villains.

Runner Up: When Batman was flying his Bat Plane and the Joker shot him down one-handed with a vest-carried pistol with a 3' long barrel.

The dark Knight is awesome.
The keith ledger one freaks me out

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I can't imagine there will be a Batman that beats Dark Knight.
I would thought when Jack Nicholson saw it, he bowed his head and left the theater in embarrassment.

 

[toobfreak]

I would thought when Jack Nicholson saw it, he bowed his head and left the theater in embarrassment.

Really? Jack Nicholson? Embarrassment? Nicholson is one of the most dramatic and accomplished actors of the modern era. The difference between Nicholson's Joker and Heath Ledger's was just that the screenplay treatment for the first Batman movie was written to play closer to the lighter comic book TV aspect of the Batman theme whereas the later Dark Knight treatment was written to play closer to the gritty, dirty, real life aspect of the original Bob Kane concept of a masked crusader.

To do it any other way would have meant far too much overlap between the two movies.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

Really? Jack Nicholson? Embarrassment? Nicholson is one of the most dramatic and accomplished actors of the modern era. The difference between Nicholson's Joker and Heath Ledger's was just that the screenplay treatment for the first Batman movie was written to play closer to the lighter comic book TV aspect of the Batman theme whereas the later Dark Knight treatment was written to play closer to the gritty, dirty, real life aspect of the original Bob Kane concept of a masked crusader.

To do it any other way would have meant far too much overlap between the two movies.

Interesting

 

[Harry Dresden]

Really? Jack Nicholson? Embarrassment? Nicholson is one of the most dramatic and accomplished actors of the modern era. The difference between Nicholson's Joker and Heath Ledger's was just that the screenplay treatment for the first Batman movie was written to play closer to the lighter comic book TV aspect of the Batman theme whereas the later Dark Knight treatment was written to play closer to the gritty, dirty, real life aspect of the original Bob Kane concept of a masked crusader.

To do it any other way would have meant far too much overlap between the two movies.

yep.....the Joker was a deranged individual....

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Really? Jack Nicholson? Embarrassment? Nicholson is one of the most dramatic and accomplished actors of the modern era. The difference between Nicholson's Joker and Heath Ledger's was just that the screenplay treatment for the first Batman movie was written to play closer to the lighter comic book TV aspect of the Batman theme whereas the later Dark Knight treatment was written to play closer to the gritty, dirty, real life aspect of the original Bob Kane concept of a masked crusader.

To do it any other way would have meant far too much overlap between the two movies.

Yes really.
I don't care who he is, they played the same character and Heath killed it like no one else ever can. Nicholson's portrayal was.. okay.

 

[toobfreak]

Nicholson's portrayal was.. okay.

Nicholson's portrayal was as was written and directed for that screenplay. Remember, every later movie is built upon what has gone before it, for the first Batman, there was a comical aspect in the script not included as part of the latter, so naturally, Ledger's portrayal could be much darker and heavier.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Nicholson's portrayal was as was written and directed for that screenplay. Remember, every later movie is built upon what has gone before it, for the first Batman, there was a comical aspect in the script not included as part of the latter, so naturally, Ledger's portrayal could be much darker and heavier.

Exactly. That is all Nicholson did, his job. And he did it okay.
Heath exceeded what was written, exceled it. Took the intention of the character and made it so well, it is what everyone talked about.
I am not knocking Nicholson, he is a well accomplished actor for a reason.
It is just that, Heath did a legendary job playing a character that will be remembered for decades more. Nicholson's joker... already forgotten