Tim Allen tweets question about taxation

[CrusaderFrank]

Because high income people have more wealth to be taxed. Fewer than 100 people have as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population. You can tax the poor half of the world's population more, or you can tax those 85 people more because they can afford it.

How does lowering taxes for high income people help middle class people succeed?

You didn't answer the question

 

[RKMBrown]

Because high income people have more wealth to be taxed. Fewer than 100 people have as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population. You can tax the poor half of the world's population more, or you can tax those 85 people more because they can afford it.

How does lowering taxes for high income people help middle class people succeed?

The high income folk use their income to pay the middle class folk. Or did you really think your paycheck grew on trees?

By contrast, raising taxes on high income folk reduces the amount of money they have to spend buying stuff.

Additionally, having everyone pay taxes involves everyone in the process of paying for the stuff they want from this government. Picking and choosing who gets to pay taxes and who gets benefits merely makes the tax process political in nature turning it into a free for all to the majority in charge at the expense of the minority who are punished by the majority.

Really it's just a gang rape situation with the mob holding down selected victims and having their way with them. Not surprisingly they take their money elsewhere.

 

[Votto]

It helps because if you don't collect that tax money from the wealthy, you have to collect it somewhere else,

and where else is there? There's the high income people, and the middle income and the low income.

Reduce the revenues you get from the high incomes, and you then have to get that revenue from either the middle income, or the low income, or both.

Taking more money from the latter is taking money that is more important to their personal financial situations.

Why do you assume this? Deficit spending goes up every year. Now they spend about $3 trillion in deficit spending.

So we should cut taxes for the rich and just add that to the deficit? What?

Congress raises the debt ceiling about every month, this would be done with or without more taxes from the rich. and those that refuse are scorned to shame.

Are you suggesting that the country is run by lunatics?

 

[Votto]

Let me restate my position.

Let's say that the government spends $100,000 a year.

They take $2 of income from the middle class and then take $10 of income from the rich. The rest is deficit spending.

The money they redistribute to the poor is around $3 to each of the poor regardless of the income tax revenue.

Now how is taking $15 from the rich in income going to help anything? All it will do is prevent those in the middle class from amassing enough wealth of their own.

 

[whitehall]

The unfortunate truth is that if you drained the accounts of every "rich" citizen the federal government would run about four months on the confiscated money. What does that tell you? The private sector employs the people and generates the money and bloated federal bureaucracies do nothing.

 

[DriftingSand]

Because high income people have more wealth to be taxed. Fewer than 100 people have as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population. You can tax the poor half of the world's population more, or you can tax those 85 people more because they can afford it.

How does lowering taxes for high income people help middle class people succeed?

If the taxes were being used for something useful you might have a point. But paying crack whores accomplishes nothing but create resentment amongst them who earned the money while giving the non-workers a sense of entitlement.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Because high income people have more wealth to be taxed. Fewer than 100 people have as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population. You can tax the poor half of the world's population more, or you can tax those 85 people more because they can afford it.

How does lowering taxes for high income people help middle class people succeed?

If the taxes were being used for something useful you might have a point. But paying crack whores accomplishes nothing but create resentment amongst them who earned the money while giving the non-workers a sense of entitlement.

If Something for Nothing is a problem, and it can be, then why do you guys support Bundy the Range Fee cheat?

 

[The Rabbi]

Because high income people have more wealth to be taxed. Fewer than 100 people have as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population. You can tax the poor half of the world's population more, or you can tax those 85 people more because they can afford it.

How does lowering taxes for high income people help middle class people succeed?

If the taxes were being used for something useful you might have a point. But paying crack whores accomplishes nothing but create resentment amongst them who earned the money while giving the non-workers a sense of entitlement.

If Something for Nothing is a problem, and it can be, then why do you guys support Bundy the Range Fee cheat?

What does that have to do with anything? Whatever Bundy is or is not paying is nothing, literally nothing, compared to the money wasted on crap programs that do nothing.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Because high income people have more wealth to be taxed. Fewer than 100 people have as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population. You can tax the poor half of the world's population more, or you can tax those 85 people more because they can afford it.

How does lowering taxes for high income people help middle class people succeed?

You didn't answer the question

he's waiting on a talking point, knb has no original thought in his mind

 

[The Rabbi]

Because high income people have more wealth to be taxed. Fewer than 100 people have as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population. You can tax the poor half of the world's population more, or you can tax those 85 people more because they can afford it.

How does lowering taxes for high income people help middle class people succeed?

You didn't answer the question

he's waiting on a talking point, knb has no original thought in his mind

But he does have a genius IQ and off the charts artistic talent.

 

[RKMBrown]

You didn't answer the question

he's waiting on a talking point, knb has no original thought in his mind

But he does have a genius IQ and off the charts artistic talent.

All libs are geniuses, that why they're never wrong about anything.

 

[JFK_USA]

Because high income people have more wealth to be taxed. Fewer than 100 people have as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population. You can tax the poor half of the world's population more, or you can tax those 85 people more because they can afford it.

How does lowering taxes for high income people help middle class people succeed?

No one is taxing the world's population, dolt.


Lowering taxes increases the incentive to work harder. Harder work translates into more income down the line.
You wont understand this, having a genius IQ and all....

That's not true.

Since 1980, worker productivity has been steadily rising while working wages have become stagnant. Here is actual proof:

So you are making the assumption that hard work equals better pay when the facts and data suggest that hard work equals stagnant pay.

That's the problem Rabbi. You're philosophy makes logical sense. People should be paid higher for being more productive. The problem is, the facts don't support that philosophy and Democrats want that philosophy of work to reign true.

Workers today are either getting laid off and not finding jobs or are given even more responsibilities at work without a corresponding raise. If workers starting to complain, those complaining workers will be fired and other workers will notice. Then they won't speak out over the lack of raises and benefits they are getting.

Now these workers have more responsibilities to where bosses insinuate that they have to work harder because there is "talk" that they might be downsizing the company. So the worker works even harder, even off the clock just to keep the job they have. All the while their rent goes up, the price of food goes up and other goods and services too. Now they are working harder, getting less money (adjusted for inflation) and it begins to destroy families.

While at the top, they are getting more and more money. They are using that money to make themselves more money. Then with recent court decisions by Citizens United and McCutheon that means the richest 1% can get everything they want with no objections. With the rest of the people getting the scraps. This isn't the America the Founding Fathers dream of. They didn't want a ruling class oppressing the people. That's what we are heading to in this country.

The rich do not benefit the rest of society, they only benefit themselves. We can not have a functioning democracy when the ruling class suppresses the rights of the people through fear and intimidation.

 

[The Rabbi]

Because high income people have more wealth to be taxed. Fewer than 100 people have as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population. You can tax the poor half of the world's population more, or you can tax those 85 people more because they can afford it.

How does lowering taxes for high income people help middle class people succeed?

No one is taxing the world's population, dolt.


Lowering taxes increases the incentive to work harder. Harder work translates into more income down the line.
You wont understand this, having a genius IQ and all....

That's not true.

Since 1980, worker productivity has been steadily rising while working wages have become stagnant. Here is actual proof:

So you are making the assumption that hard work equals better pay when the facts and data suggest that hard work equals stagnant pay.

That's the problem Rabbi. You're philosophy makes logical sense. People should be paid higher for being more productive. The problem is, the facts don't support that philosophy and Democrats want that philosophy of work to reign true.

Workers today are either getting laid off and not finding jobs or are given even more responsibilities at work without a corresponding raise. If workers starting to complain, those complaining workers will be fired and other workers will notice. Then they won't speak out over the lack of raises and benefits they are getting.

Now these workers have more responsibilities to where bosses insinuate that they have to work harder because there is "talk" that they might be downsizing the company. So the worker works even harder, even off the clock just to keep the job they have. All the while their rent goes up, the price of food goes up and other goods and services too. Now they are working harder, getting less money (adjusted for inflation) and it begins to destroy families.

While at the top, they are getting more and more money. They are using that money to make themselves more money. Then with recent court decisions by Citizens United and McCutheon that means the richest 1% can get everything they want with no objections. With the rest of the people getting the scraps. This isn't the America the Founding Fathers dream of. They didn't want a ruling class oppressing the people. That's what we are heading to in this country.

The rich do not benefit the rest of society, they only benefit themselves. We can not have a functioning democracy when the ruling class suppresses the rights of the people through fear and intimidation.

ANother one who can't read a chart. The rest of your post was the usual class warfare/Marxist shit we see here all day long. Not really worth responding to except to dismiss it as crap.

 

[JFK_USA]

No one is taxing the world's population, dolt.


Lowering taxes increases the incentive to work harder. Harder work translates into more income down the line.
You wont understand this, having a genius IQ and all....

That's not true.

Since 1980, worker productivity has been steadily rising while working wages have become stagnant. Here is actual proof:

So you are making the assumption that hard work equals better pay when the facts and data suggest that hard work equals stagnant pay.

That's the problem Rabbi. You're philosophy makes logical sense. People should be paid higher for being more productive. The problem is, the facts don't support that philosophy and Democrats want that philosophy of work to reign true.

Workers today are either getting laid off and not finding jobs or are given even more responsibilities at work without a corresponding raise. If workers starting to complain, those complaining workers will be fired and other workers will notice. Then they won't speak out over the lack of raises and benefits they are getting.

Now these workers have more responsibilities to where bosses insinuate that they have to work harder because there is "talk" that they might be downsizing the company. So the worker works even harder, even off the clock just to keep the job they have. All the while their rent goes up, the price of food goes up and other goods and services too. Now they are working harder, getting less money (adjusted for inflation) and it begins to destroy families.

While at the top, they are getting more and more money. They are using that money to make themselves more money. Then with recent court decisions by Citizens United and McCutheon that means the richest 1% can get everything they want with no objections. With the rest of the people getting the scraps. This isn't the America the Founding Fathers dream of. They didn't want a ruling class oppressing the people. That's what we are heading to in this country.

The rich do not benefit the rest of society, they only benefit themselves. We can not have a functioning democracy when the ruling class suppresses the rights of the people through fear and intimidation.

ANother one who can't read a chart. The rest of your post was the usual class warfare/Marxist shit we see here all day long. Not really worth responding to except to dismiss it as crap.

Well of course when people lose the argument, they either dismiss the facts and/or insult the person giving the argument. You did both, congratulations.

 

[The Rabbi]

That's not true.

Since 1980, worker productivity has been steadily rising while working wages have become stagnant. Here is actual proof:

So you are making the assumption that hard work equals better pay when the facts and data suggest that hard work equals stagnant pay.

That's the problem Rabbi. You're philosophy makes logical sense. People should be paid higher for being more productive. The problem is, the facts don't support that philosophy and Democrats want that philosophy of work to reign true.

Workers today are either getting laid off and not finding jobs or are given even more responsibilities at work without a corresponding raise. If workers starting to complain, those complaining workers will be fired and other workers will notice. Then they won't speak out over the lack of raises and benefits they are getting.

Now these workers have more responsibilities to where bosses insinuate that they have to work harder because there is "talk" that they might be downsizing the company. So the worker works even harder, even off the clock just to keep the job they have. All the while their rent goes up, the price of food goes up and other goods and services too. Now they are working harder, getting less money (adjusted for inflation) and it begins to destroy families.

While at the top, they are getting more and more money. They are using that money to make themselves more money. Then with recent court decisions by Citizens United and McCutheon that means the richest 1% can get everything they want with no objections. With the rest of the people getting the scraps. This isn't the America the Founding Fathers dream of. They didn't want a ruling class oppressing the people. That's what we are heading to in this country.

The rich do not benefit the rest of society, they only benefit themselves. We can not have a functioning democracy when the ruling class suppresses the rights of the people through fear and intimidation.

ANother one who can't read a chart. The rest of your post was the usual class warfare/Marxist shit we see here all day long. Not really worth responding to except to dismiss it as crap.

Well of course when people lose the argument, they either dismiss the facts and/or insult the person giving the argument. You did both, congratulations.

I didnt lose, Einstein. There was no argument there. Just a bunch of half truths, mis-statements and outright lies. Not hard to see through that.

 

[Votto]

Let me restate my position.

Let's say that the government spends $100,000 a year.

They take $2 of income from the middle class and then take $10 of income from the rich. The rest is deficit spending.

The money they redistribute to the poor is around $3 to each of the poor regardless of the income tax revenue.

Now how is taking $15 from the rich in income going to help anything? All it will do is prevent those in the middle class from amassing enough wealth of their own.

Is anyone going to address this post?

What I failed to leave out was that as the government just prints money inflation is destroying the middle class and poor while the "rich" simply find ways to avoid the economic erosion through such investments as precious medals.

 

[The T]

Because high income people have more wealth to be taxed.

WHY take from them when they Invested, Took RISK...and their work was rewarded?

Fewer than 100 people have as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population.

Want to prove that? And so what? They want to get rich? Work harder...vote smarter. Be responsible.

You can tax the poor half of the world's population more,

There's already a tax on the poor...It's called irresponsibility for their lives AND the Lottery.

or you can tax those 85 people more because they can afford it.

It isn't YOURS or the Government's...Hand's OFF. That's wealth-envy mulesqueeze.

How does lowering taxes for high income people help middle class people succeed?

Because MORE risk, MORE investment, MORE innovation/invention will take place...(HOW do you think WE had the highest living standard in the world and people WANT to come here? ) thus needs will arise and the investments/invention to MEET DEMAND will take place and CREATE JOBS to fill. YOU aren't good at this...YOU are a drinker of the WHINE of sour grapes. WAKE UP son.

 

[JFK_USA]

ANother one who can't read a chart. The rest of your post was the usual class warfare/Marxist shit we see here all day long. Not really worth responding to except to dismiss it as crap.

Well of course when people lose the argument, they either dismiss the facts and/or insult the person giving the argument. You did both, congratulations.

I didnt lose, Einstein. There was no argument there. Just a bunch of half truths, mis-statements and outright lies. Not hard to see through that.

Are you kidding me?

YOU brought up the argument that hard work equals higher pay. I refuted that with data and facts. YOU decided to insult my argument instead of strengthen YOUR argument. Therefore, you went off topic therefore you can't win the argument.

 

[The T]

Let me restate my position.

Let's say that the government spends $100,000 a year.

They take $2 of income from the middle class and then take $10 of income from the rich. The rest is deficit spending.

The money they redistribute to the poor is around $3 to each of the poor regardless of the income tax revenue.

Now how is taking $15 from the rich in income going to help anything? All it will do is prevent those in the middle class from amassing enough wealth of their own.

Is anyone going to address this post?

What I failed to leave out was that as the government just prints money inflation is destroying the middle class and poor while the "rich" simply find ways to avoid the economic erosion through such investments as precious medals.

Redistribution, and printing money doesn't work. The ONLY way is make a bigger pie.

 

[The Rabbi]

Well of course when people lose the argument, they either dismiss the facts and/or insult the person giving the argument. You did both, congratulations.

I didnt lose, Einstein. There was no argument there. Just a bunch of half truths, mis-statements and outright lies. Not hard to see through that.

Are you kidding me?

YOU brought up the argument that hard work equals higher pay. I refuted that with data and facts. YOU decided to insult my argument instead of strengthen YOUR argument. Therefore, you went off topic therefore you can't win the argument.

No, I've never said hard work equals high pay. Please post where I wrote that.
You didnt refute my non-statement with any data. You threw a misleading graph that you think proves something.
Now go back to milk and cookies.