Three Soleimani Questions

[georgephillip]

Get back to US when our “top General” has murdered 600 Iranians, stormed the Iranian embassy. TIA.

How many Muslim civilians have US generals killed since 2001?

How many Muslims have Muslims murdered in the last 20 years?

How many Muslims have Muslims murdered in the last 20 years?

Too many.

Where are they getting their guns?

Middle East arms sales up by a massive 87%, mostly US-supplied : Peoples Dispatch

"A recent report by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) on global weapons sales revealed that arms sales to countries in the Middle East/West Asia have increased by a whopping 87% between 2009-13 and 2014-18.

"The report, which was released on March 11, also stated that the United States of America (US) retains its position as the world’s largest arms exporter.

"The US arms exports grew by 29% between 2009-13 and 2014-18, while its share of the total global exports increased from 30% to 36%."

 

[georgephillip]

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

your post is total bullshit

your post is total bullshit

Are you a "democrat" or a "terrorist"?

America Escalates Its “Democratic” Oil War in the Near East - CounterPunch.org

"From the U.S. vantage point, what is a 'democracy'?

"In today’s Orwellian vocabulary, it means any country supporting U.S. foreign policy.

"Bolivia and Honduras have become 'democracies' since their coups, along with Brazil.

"Chile under Pinochet was a Chicago-style free market democracy.

"So was Iran under the Shah, and Russia under Yeltsin – but not since it elected Vladimir Putin president, any more than is China under President Xi.

"The antonym to 'democracy' is 'terrorist.'

"That simply means a nation willing to fight to become independent from U.S. neoliberal democracy.

"It does not include America’s proxy armies."

 

[georgephillip]

Yes, Iran and China did similar shit to the U.S.

Here is a more appropriate comparison.

Dozens of US spies killed after Iran and China uncovered CIA messaging service using Google
Dozens of US spies killed after Iran and China uncovered CIA messaging service using Google

30 spies dead after Iran cracked CIA comms network with, er, Google search – new claim
30 spies dead after Iran cracked CIA comms network with, er, Google search – new claim

Wouldn't your comparison be more appropriate if Iran and China had assassinated the Director of the CIA?

Your link:

"Between 2009 and 2013 the US Central Intelligence Agency suffered a 'catastrophic' secret communications failure in a website used by officers and their field agents around the world to speak to each other, according to a report in Yahoo News, which heard from 11 former intelligence and government officials about the previously unreported disaster.

"'We’re still dealing with the fallout,' said one former national security official. 'Dozens of people around the world were killed because of this.'”

 

[georgephillip]

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

So you're bitter that a modern-day Hitler was killed while he was conducting operations in Iraq?

So you're bitter that a modern-day Hitler was killed while he was conducting operations in Iraq?

That would depend on what operations Soleimani was conducting, right?

The Three Victories that Sealed Soleimani’s Fate - CounterPunch.org

"Prime minister Adel Abdul Mahdi told Iraqi parliament on Sunday that Soleimani came to Iraq last week to respond to a diplomatic note from Saudi Arabia.

"While bitter enemies, the Saudi monarchy and the Islamic Republic, were privately negotiating steps to pacify the region, which has been roiled by anti-Iranian and anti-American demonstrations.

"'I was supposed to meet Soleimani in the morning the day he was killed,' Mahdi said, according to news reports"

 

[georgephillip]

Get back to US when our “top General” has murdered 600 Iranians, stormed the Iranian embassy. TIA.

How many Muslim civilians have US generals killed since 2001?

Oh dear dumbass. I thought your questions were about Ifuckingran.

Oh dear dumbass. I thought your questions were about Ifuckingran.

Is Trump a moron? - The Feed

 

[Indeependent]

Get back to US when our “top General” has murdered 600 Iranians, stormed the Iranian embassy. TIA.

How many Muslim civilians have US generals killed since 2001?

How many Muslims have Muslims murdered in the last 20 years?

How many Muslims have Muslims murdered in the last 20 years?

Too many.

Where are they getting their guns?

Middle East arms sales up by a massive 87%, mostly US-supplied : Peoples Dispatch

"A recent report by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) on global weapons sales revealed that arms sales to countries in the Middle East/West Asia have increased by a whopping 87% between 2009-13 and 2014-18.

"The report, which was released on March 11, also stated that the United States of America (US) retains its position as the world’s largest arms exporter.

"The US arms exports grew by 29% between 2009-13 and 2014-18, while its share of the total global exports increased from 30% to 36%."

So you’re placing the onus on the seller?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

What "impeachment"? More and more it looks like Fake News

 

[boedicca]

Salami is a thug. He's now a dead thug. Nobody cares about that damn terrorist regime

'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This TERRORIST is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet HELL! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in TORMENT! If TRUMP hadn't BLOWN 'im to BITS 'e'd be BOMBING MORE EMBASSIES! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' JAHANNAM invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-TERRORIST!!

Wonder if he's enjoying his 72 virgins?? LOL

Well, according to his twitter account, all the Virgins in Hell are Men.

 

[MisterBeale]

IOW, this guy WAS NOT just a high ranking prestigious military general, he was a SPOOK, a glorified spy. If I remember correctly? We had this shit going on with the Soviets during the cold war all the damn time. They captured one of ours, we captured one of theirs. They killed one of ours, we killed one of theirs.

What was Soleimani's role as messenger between Iraq and Saudi Arabia?

The Three Victories that Sealed Soleimani’s Fate - CounterPunch.org

"Prime minister Adel Abdul Mahdi told Iraqi parliament on Sunday that Soleimani came to Iraq last week to respond to a diplomatic note from Saudi Arabia.

"While bitter enemies, the Saudi monarchy and the Islamic Republic, were privately negotiating steps to pacify the region, which has been roiled by anti-Iranian and anti-American demonstrations.

"'I was supposed to meet Soleimani in the morning the day he was killed,' Mahdi said, according to news reports. 'He came to deliver me a message from Iran responding to the message we delivered from Saudi to Iran.'"

This is true, but then, with spy-craft? You never know. . . it might have been a set up from the start by the Saudi's, Israelis, and the US to assassinate him from the very beginning?

How can anyone be sure?

 

[MisterBeale]

Yes, Iran and China did similar shit to the U.S.

Here is a more appropriate comparison.

Dozens of US spies killed after Iran and China uncovered CIA messaging service using Google
Dozens of US spies killed after Iran and China uncovered CIA messaging service using Google

30 spies dead after Iran cracked CIA comms network with, er, Google search – new claim
30 spies dead after Iran cracked CIA comms network with, er, Google search – new claim

Wouldn't your comparison be more appropriate if Iran and China had assassinated the Director of the CIA?

Your link:

"Between 2009 and 2013 the US Central Intelligence Agency suffered a 'catastrophic' secret communications failure in a website used by officers and their field agents around the world to speak to each other, according to a report in Yahoo News, which heard from 11 former intelligence and government officials about the previously unreported disaster.

"'We’re still dealing with the fallout,' said one former national security official. 'Dozens of people around the world were killed because of this.'”

. . . mmmm, I'm not sure.

Probably a more apt comparison would be the head of a special forces unit?

It is really hard to say.

Maybe?

The problem with that comparison it, the head of the CIA doesn't do field work anymore. I don't now if this guy did or not.

Maybe it is apt.

 

[toobfreak]

Our top commander in Europe hasn't carried out any terrorist attacks.

What's your definition of "terrorism?"

What's my definition of Brainless Cuckold?

You.

 

[georgephillip]

Get back to US when our “top General” has murdered 600 Iranians, stormed the Iranian embassy. TIA.

How many Muslim civilians have US generals killed since 2001?

How many Muslims have Muslims murdered in the last 20 years?

How many Muslims have Muslims murdered in the last 20 years?

Too many.

Where are they getting their guns?

Middle East arms sales up by a massive 87%, mostly US-supplied : Peoples Dispatch

"A recent report by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) on global weapons sales revealed that arms sales to countries in the Middle East/West Asia have increased by a whopping 87% between 2009-13 and 2014-18.

"The report, which was released on March 11, also stated that the United States of America (US) retains its position as the world’s largest arms exporter.

"The US arms exports grew by 29% between 2009-13 and 2014-18, while its share of the total global exports increased from 30% to 36%."

So you’re placing the onus on the seller?

So you’re placing the onus on the seller?

Where it rightfully belongs.

Do you blame the victims?

Meet the CEOs Cashing In on Trump's Aggression Against Iran - CounterPunch.org

"CEOs of major U.S. military contractors stand to reap huge windfalls from the escalation of conflict with Iran.

"This was evident in the immediate aftermath of the U.S. assassination of a top Iranian military official last week.

"As soon as the news reached financial markets, these companies’ share prices spiked, inflating the value of their executives’ stock-based pay."

 

[georgephillip]

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

What "impeachment"? More and more it looks like Fake News

What "impeachment"? More and more it looks like Fake News

Sounds like you're having trouble keeping up?

Full Impeachments for Trump will Shake Senate Republicans from Kangaroo Court | Ralph Nader

"The most morally distinguishing impeachable offenses come under the heading of what Alexander Hamilton called 'abuse of the public trust.'

"Consider these abuses of the public trust:

1. Trump’s chronic, obsessive, pathological lying and falsifications (he has made over 15,000 false or misleading claims since January 21, 2017);
2. Trump’s history of being a serial sexual predator working to delay numerous court cases and escape demands for depositions under oath by many victims;
3. Trump’s endless racism and bigotry in words and deeds. Since becoming president, Trump has backed voter suppression aimed at minorities; and
4. Trump’s incitement of violence on more than one occasion.

"Trump should be impeached and convicted. If the supine Republican-controlled Senate fails to convict Trump, the voters should landslide him in November..."

"Conservative Fox News commentator, constitutional law scholar, and former Judge Andrew Napolitano has said if he were the Democrats, he would reopen the impeachment case 'on the basis of new evidence.'

"'That would justify holding onto the articles of impeachment [from the Senate] the articles of impeachment [abuse of power and contempt of Congress] because there’s new evidence and perhaps new articles.'"

 

[Andylusion]

Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’

Don't be silly, President Trump was no where near Italy when it happened.

Sometimes you are absolutely hilarious.

 

[Andylusion]

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

What "impeachment"? More and more it looks like Fake News

What "impeachment"? More and more it looks like Fake News

Sounds like you're having trouble keeping up?

Full Impeachments for Trump will Shake Senate Republicans from Kangaroo Court | Ralph Nader

"The most morally distinguishing impeachable offenses come under the heading of what Alexander Hamilton called 'abuse of the public trust.'

"Consider these abuses of the public trust:

1. Trump’s chronic, obsessive, pathological lying and falsifications (he has made over 15,000 false or misleading claims since January 21, 2017);
2. Trump’s history of being a serial sexual predator working to delay numerous court cases and escape demands for depositions under oath by many victims;
3. Trump’s endless racism and bigotry in words and deeds. Since becoming president, Trump has backed voter suppression aimed at minorities; and
4. Trump’s incitement of violence on more than one occasion.

"Trump should be impeached and convicted. If the supine Republican-controlled Senate fails to convict Trump, the voters should landslide him in November..."

"Conservative Fox News commentator, constitutional law scholar, and former Judge Andrew Napolitano has said if he were the Democrats, he would reopen the impeachment case 'on the basis of new evidence.'

"'That would justify holding onto the articles of impeachment [from the Senate] the articles of impeachment [abuse of power and contempt of Congress] because there’s new evidence and perhaps new articles.'"

No, we are keeping up. That's how we know you are just wrong.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

What "impeachment"? More and more it looks like Fake News

What "impeachment"? More and more it looks like Fake News

Sounds like you're having trouble keeping up?

Full Impeachments for Trump will Shake Senate Republicans from Kangaroo Court | Ralph Nader

"The most morally distinguishing impeachable offenses come under the heading of what Alexander Hamilton called 'abuse of the public trust.'

"Consider these abuses of the public trust:

1. Trump’s chronic, obsessive, pathological lying and falsifications (he has made over 15,000 false or misleading claims since January 21, 2017);
2. Trump’s history of being a serial sexual predator working to delay numerous court cases and escape demands for depositions under oath by many victims;
3. Trump’s endless racism and bigotry in words and deeds. Since becoming president, Trump has backed voter suppression aimed at minorities; and
4. Trump’s incitement of violence on more than one occasion.

"Trump should be impeached and convicted. If the supine Republican-controlled Senate fails to convict Trump, the voters should landslide him in November..."

"Conservative Fox News commentator, constitutional law scholar, and former Judge Andrew Napolitano has said if he were the Democrats, he would reopen the impeachment case 'on the basis of new evidence.'

"'That would justify holding onto the articles of impeachment [from the Senate] the articles of impeachment [abuse of power and contempt of Congress] because there’s new evidence and perhaps new articles.'"

Iran Nan and her temporary House majority had a hissy fit. This wasn't an impeachment, if it were there would be real crimes, like Biden's money laundering, bribery and extortion.

 

[georgephillip]

IOW, this guy WAS NOT just a high ranking prestigious military general, he was a SPOOK, a glorified spy. If I remember correctly? We had this shit going on with the Soviets during the cold war all the damn time. They captured one of ours, we captured one of theirs. They killed one of ours, we killed one of theirs.

What was Soleimani's role as messenger between Iraq and Saudi Arabia?

The Three Victories that Sealed Soleimani’s Fate - CounterPunch.org

"Prime minister Adel Abdul Mahdi told Iraqi parliament on Sunday that Soleimani came to Iraq last week to respond to a diplomatic note from Saudi Arabia.

"While bitter enemies, the Saudi monarchy and the Islamic Republic, were privately negotiating steps to pacify the region, which has been roiled by anti-Iranian and anti-American demonstrations.

"'I was supposed to meet Soleimani in the morning the day he was killed,' Mahdi said, according to news reports. 'He came to deliver me a message from Iran responding to the message we delivered from Saudi to Iran.'"

This is true, but then, with spy-craft? You never know. . . it might have been a set up from the start by the Saudi's, Israelis, and the US to assassinate him from the very beginning?

How can anyone be sure?

This is true, but then, with spy-craft? You never know. . . it might have been a set up from the start by the Saudi's, Israelis, and the US to assassinate him from the very beginning?

How can anyone be sure?

I suppose there's only one thing we can be sure of in matters like this:

Meet the CEOs Cashing In on Trump's Aggression Against Iran - CounterPunch.org

"Northrop Grumman executives saw the biggest increase in the value of their stocks after the U.S. airstrike that killed Qasem Suleimani on January 2.

"Shares in the B-2 bomber maker rose 5.43 percent by the end of trading the following day.

"Wesley Bush, who turned Northrop Grumman’s reins over to Kathy Warden last year, held 251,947 shares of company stock in various trusts as of his final SEC Form 4 filing in May 2019. (Companies must submit these reports when top executives and directors buy and sell company stock.)

"Assuming Bush is still sitting on that stockpile, he saw the value grow by $4.9 million to a total of $94.5 million last Friday."

 

[harmonica]

Trump vs. Iran: Has the US Crossed the Escalation to War Rubicon? - CounterPunch.org

"Three questions to consider in light of the recent US killing of Iran’s top general:

"Does anyone doubt what would be the response of the USA if its top general and commander in Europe were assassinated by Iran–and Iran followed it up with a declaration that they did it and he deserved it?

"Is it just coincidence that Trump’s ‘crossing the Rubicon latest escalation’ has nothing to do with the timing of impeachment proceedings in Congress?

"Or what appears to be an increasing probability of US economic recession in an election year."

The role of personality figured prominently in the German Kaiser's 1914 reaction a Serbian archduke's assassination; Hitler's misplaced assumption that France and Britain would do nothing when he invaded Poland, and Tojo's miscalculation that war with the US would be short after Pearl Harbor and his invasion of the Philippines.

"Trump is now in infamous company: with the Kaiser, Tojo, Hitler, and all the others after who have always miscalculated and pushed their countries to the brink of war–and over."

your post is total bullshit

your post is total bullshit

Are you a "democrat" or a "terrorist"?

America Escalates Its “Democratic” Oil War in the Near East - CounterPunch.org

"From the U.S. vantage point, what is a 'democracy'?

"In today’s Orwellian vocabulary, it means any country supporting U.S. foreign policy.

"Bolivia and Honduras have become 'democracies' since their coups, along with Brazil.

"Chile under Pinochet was a Chicago-style free market democracy.

"So was Iran under the Shah, and Russia under Yeltsin – but not since it elected Vladimir Putin president, any more than is China under President Xi.

"The antonym to 'democracy' is 'terrorist.'

"That simply means a nation willing to fight to become independent from U.S. neoliberal democracy.

"It does not include America’s proxy armies."

your post is still bullshit

 

[georgephillip]

Probably a more apt comparison would be the head of a special forces unit?

It is really hard to say.

Maybe?

The problem with that comparison it, the head of the CIA doesn't do field work anymore. I don't now if this guy did or not.

I suspect the Islamic Revolutionary Guard combines the functions of special forces, CIA, and mafia in ways most Americans would find hard to fathom; there doesn't seem to be much doubt about Soleimani's capabilities however.

Qasem Soleimani - Wikipedia

"Soleimani was described by an ex-CIA operative as 'the single most powerful operative in the Middle East today' and the principal military strategist and tactician in Iran's effort to combat Western influence and promote the expansion of Shiite and Iranian influence throughout the Middle East.[2]

"In Iraq, as the commander of the Quds Force, he was believed to have strongly influenced the organization of the Iraqi government, notably supporting the election of previous Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Al-Maliki"

 

[georgephillip]

No, we are keeping up. That's how we know you are just wrong.

You're arguing in favor of Trump's integrity?

Full Impeachments for Trump will Shake Senate Republicans from Kangaroo Court | Ralph Nader

"As the most impeachable president in American history, Trump continues to shred our Constitution and its critical separation of powers.

"Trump has repeatedly, brazenly seized Congressional authority in an attempt to turn the presidency into a monarchy.

"Trump once went so far as to say, 'I am the chosen one.'"

Do you believe Trump is "chosen"?