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Thought Experiment: After the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation battle, should American men be afraid?
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We did. There wasn't any reason to think he was guilty.
NewsVine_Mariyam
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No, you're mistaking my amusement for care. I always find it funny when people go around demanding that others do what they tell them to while having no ability what so ever to impose any type of consequences on them if they don't comply.I think you care because you keep showing you care by whining.
Let them keep the records. Everyone will know what that means.
Of course that sounds like whining to you.
Dr Ford would have never levied these untrue allegations at a private citizen....there are libel protections in place for private citizens and she as well as her attorneys would be in big trouble...and still may be in trouble....you know she still refuses to turn over her polygraph and Dr notes regarding her so called high school event...you would think she would turn them over right away....she's a liar folks...
you have decided they are untrue. A majority of Americans agree with Dr Ford. You are the liar.
There is no evidence, you don’t use polls on the guilt or innocence of a person. 48% felt Kavanugh sexually assaulted Ford, 48% is not a majority.
I believe with the woman who started the #metoo movement, she said she believes something happened to Ford however Kavanaugh was not involved.
According to Ford six people were at a house, which she has no idea where it was at, how she got there and how she got there. Only she remembers being there all five don’t recall being there. Her friend doesn’t remember being there and has never met Kavanuagh. She never spoke of it for 36 years, she was in counseling when she did and that story seems to have holes in it.
Ford is sincere, no proof, no evidence, can’t place Kavenaugh at the house, she admits to drinking beer.
Let me see your physical evidence Kavanaugh was there and did anything.
There is evidence. Dr Ford knew Judge and JT were together without consulting Kavanaugh's calendar. Also there is a question of whether Kavanaugh was telling the truth when he said he never got dead drunk.
Again it is not unusual for a victim to have gaps in their memory.
"One thing that particularly disturbed him was Mitchell’s focus on Ford’s inability to narrow down a date for when the alleged assault occurred. That, he said, “is absurd. It is offensive. It is laughable, because she knows better.”
It is not at all uncommon for prosecutors to leave at least some wiggle room around the date that a crime is believed to have happened — using the phrase “on or about” is nearly ubiquitous where filing criminal charges is concerned. And in Maricopa County, Long says that Mitchell’s office “routinely” files charges with an expanded, even multi-year, window during which a crime is alleged to have taken place. “In the criminal justice system, date is not an element” of the crime, he said. “It’s not … something that we have to prove. She knows this.” And Mitchell trains prosecutors to understand this, he said: “In fact, we expect the date is going to be the one thing a person is not going to remember.” Mitchell’s decision to suggest otherwise in the letter “appears to be merely designed to mislead the public,” he said. “Not something I can abide.”
Prosecutors Don’t Bring Cases the Way Rachel Mitchell’s Kavanaugh Memo Says — Not Even in Her Own Arizona Office
The fact is that Rachel Mitchell has filed charges with that type of evidence.
Define "majority". Almost everyone I know think she's a paid schill and a liar. How much did she cash in from her "Go Fund Me" account? That payout not also makes her a paid whore.Dr Ford would have never levied these untrue allegations at a private citizen....there are libel protections in place for private citizens and she as well as her attorneys would be in big trouble...and still may be in trouble....you know she still refuses to turn over her polygraph and Dr notes regarding her so called high school event...you would think she would turn them over right away....she's a liar folks...
you have decided they are untrue. A majority of Americans agree with Dr Ford. You are the liar.
The only poll claimed 48% thought he was guilty however polls had Clinton winning in 16
The polls were right. Clinton did win the popular vote.
Men are not afraid and in fear. We are pissed! If the Democrats win the election, they will pass a law that a man is always guilty if a woman claims he raped her.No one wants to live in fear, and most people don't aspire to have others live in fear of them, in my opinion. However if this fear results in a reckoning regarding the how women have traditionally been treated by men in society, then something positive may come of it
Fear is not a pleasant thing, but transformation usually requires it. Coupled with empathy, it might lead men to imagine how women must have felt for eons — always fearful that they would be branded as sluts, or forced to give birth against their will, or experience sex as violent assault. Women carry these anxieties in their emotional DNA.
Some men are now finding out that it’s not fun to be afraid.
Men have all the power in this country. Men have no right to be pissed. It really proves your stupidity.
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Bullshit.Men are not afraid and in fear. We are pissed! If the Democrats win the election, they will pass a law that a man is always guilty if a woman claims he raped her.No one wants to live in fear, and most people don't aspire to have others live in fear of them, in my opinion. However if this fear results in a reckoning regarding the how women have traditionally been treated by men in society, then something positive may come of it
Fear is not a pleasant thing, but transformation usually requires it. Coupled with empathy, it might lead men to imagine how women must have felt for eons — always fearful that they would be branded as sluts, or forced to give birth against their will, or experience sex as violent assault. Women carry these anxieties in their emotional DNA.
Some men are now finding out that it’s not fun to be afraid.
Men have all the power in this country. Men have no right to be pissed. It really proves your stupidity.
Money is power and women control most of the money.
Men have every right to be pissed when women make false accusations.
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There is no evidence and her story is weakDr Ford would have never levied these untrue allegations at a private citizen....there are libel protections in place for private citizens and she as well as her attorneys would be in big trouble...and still may be in trouble....you know she still refuses to turn over her polygraph and Dr notes regarding her so called high school event...you would think she would turn them over right away....she's a liar folks...
you have decided they are untrue. A majority of Americans agree with Dr Ford. You are the liar.
There is no evidence, you don’t use polls on the guilt or innocence of a person. 48% felt Kavanugh sexually assaulted Ford, 48% is not a majority.
I believe with the woman who started the #metoo movement, she said she believes something happened to Ford however Kavanaugh was not involved.
According to Ford six people were at a house, which she has no idea where it was at, how she got there and how she got there. Only she remembers being there all five don’t recall being there. Her friend doesn’t remember being there and has never met Kavanuagh. She never spoke of it for 36 years, she was in counseling when she did and that story seems to have holes in it.
Ford is sincere, no proof, no evidence, can’t place Kavenaugh at the house, she admits to drinking beer.
Let me see your physical evidence Kavanaugh was there and did anything.
There is evidence. Dr Ford knew Judge and JT were together without consulting Kavanaugh's calendar. Also there is a question of whether Kavanaugh was telling the truth when he said he never got dead drunk.
Again it is not unusual for a victim to have gaps in their memory.
"One thing that particularly disturbed him was Mitchell’s focus on Ford’s inability to narrow down a date for when the alleged assault occurred. That, he said, “is absurd. It is offensive. It is laughable, because she knows better.”
It is not at all uncommon for prosecutors to leave at least some wiggle room around the date that a crime is believed to have happened — using the phrase “on or about” is nearly ubiquitous where filing criminal charges is concerned. And in Maricopa County, Long says that Mitchell’s office “routinely” files charges with an expanded, even multi-year, window during which a crime is alleged to have taken place. “In the criminal justice system, date is not an element” of the crime, he said. “It’s not … something that we have to prove. She knows this.” And Mitchell trains prosecutors to understand this, he said: “In fact, we expect the date is going to be the one thing a person is not going to remember.” Mitchell’s decision to suggest otherwise in the letter “appears to be merely designed to mislead the public,” he said. “Not something I can abide.”
Prosecutors Don’t Bring Cases the Way Rachel Mitchell’s Kavanaugh Memo Says — Not Even in Her Own Arizona Office
The fact is that Rachel Mitchell has filed charges with that type of evidence.
Niether was Kavanaugh, until someone come forward at the last minute. With absolutely no proof.Since I'm not a rapist I'm not afaid.
Asclepias
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Some men are intelligent enough and emotionally mature enough to empathize with what women must go through. Those men are not afraid because they have nothing to be afraid of. Can a woman falsely accuse them? Sure but so could a man. So could a child. These are just things we just live with on a day to day basis. We dont live in fear because when there is truth on your side fear cant find a foothold.No one wants to live in fear, and most people don't aspire to have others live in fear of them, in my opinion. However if this fear results in a reckoning regarding the how women have traditionally been treated by men in society, then something positive may come of it
Fear is not a pleasant thing, but transformation usually requires it. Coupled with empathy, it might lead men to imagine how women must have felt for eons — always fearful that they would be branded as sluts, or forced to give birth against their will, or experience sex as violent assault. Women carry these anxieties in their emotional DNA.
Some men are now finding out that it’s not fun to be afraid.
You are the one afraid of women, not me.You sound like a pussy.Men are not afraid and in fear. We are pissed! If the Democrats win the election, they will pass a law that a man is always guilty if a woman claims he raped her.
I'm afraid. I've seen and heard of young men having their lives fucked up, for no real reason, because of the witch hunt going on, that Kavanaugh was just one part of.
NO, I don't. You just said that, because you can't deny the obvious truth of my statement.
And because you are too much of a "pussy" to even try.
My point stands, pussy.
I'm afraid. I've seen and heard of young men having their lives fucked up, for no real reason, because of the witch hunt going on, that Kavanaugh was just one part of.
Laws and rulings written or judged by liberals, have the power of the State behind them, and fuck up men's lives.
YOur pretense that this is just "fear of women" is insanely dishonest of you.
You are lying about the issue, because you want to use emotion to protect and advance an agenda you cannot defend with Truth.
YOu are vile scum.
You are the vile scum.
Rachel Mitchell is a Republican in as state that has been traditionally Republican controlled. She has used the same laws that Republicans passed., She has run her cases the exact opposite way of the attacks she made on Dr Ford.
One third of women in this country are sexually assaulted and many before they become a adult. You want to give victimhood to a group that does not need it.
Asclepias
Diamond Member
Bullshit.Men are not afraid and in fear. We are pissed! If the Democrats win the election, they will pass a law that a man is always guilty if a woman claims he raped her.No one wants to live in fear, and most people don't aspire to have others live in fear of them, in my opinion. However if this fear results in a reckoning regarding the how women have traditionally been treated by men in society, then something positive may come of it
Fear is not a pleasant thing, but transformation usually requires it. Coupled with empathy, it might lead men to imagine how women must have felt for eons — always fearful that they would be branded as sluts, or forced to give birth against their will, or experience sex as violent assault. Women carry these anxieties in their emotional DNA.
Some men are now finding out that it’s not fun to be afraid.
Men have all the power in this country. Men have no right to be pissed. It really proves your stupidity.
Money is power and women control most of the money.
Men have every right to be pissed when women make false accusations.
You only have a right to be pissed at the one making the false claims. Hating all women will eventually bite you in the ass due to the fact that women are the foundation of civilized society.
Never had a problem with women because I'm not scum. Maybe you are?You are the one afraid of women, not me.
Laws and rulings written or judged by liberals, have the power of the State behind them, and fuck up men's lives.
YOur pretense that this is just "fear of women" is insanely dishonest of you.
You are lying about the issue, because you want to use emotion to protect and advance an agenda you cannot defend with Truth.
YOu are vile scum.
Your pretense that this is about bad men actually doing bad things and being punished for it, is a lie designed to fool only the willfully ignorant. And you can shove it up your ass.
My point stands.
The way the law is enforce right now, God Forbid the way you fucktards want to make it even worse,
is already fucking up the lives of men, for no reason(s) or no good reason(s).
Unfortunately, this is about bad men doing bad things and society covering it up so that they don't get punished. No one ever complains about men (or women) who mind their manners and keep their hands to themselves. I've been pinned against a wall and groped, had someone bite me in the ass through my jeans, etc. but there was no one to report it to at the time who would take it seriously. Do you actually expect women to take this abusive shit without complaint?
The trashy little whore in the Oval Office just actually apologized to the drunken bully being sworn in "on behalf of the nation," saying nothing about or to the millions of women who have been subjected to this abuse. Bullshit.
You talk about "the truth," without saying what the truth is, but you can't handle the truth.
HOw do you distinguish between actual bad men, and men falsely accused?
How many people have been falsely accused?
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Daniel Holtzclaw disagreesSome men are intelligent enough and emotionally mature enough to empathize with what women must go through. Those men are not afraid because they have nothing to be afraid of. Can a woman falsely accuse them? Sure but so could a man. So could a child. These are just things we just live with on a day to day basis. We dont live in fear because when there is truth on your side fear cant find a foothold.No one wants to live in fear, and most people don't aspire to have others live in fear of them, in my opinion. However if this fear results in a reckoning regarding the how women have traditionally been treated by men in society, then something positive may come of it
Fear is not a pleasant thing, but transformation usually requires it. Coupled with empathy, it might lead men to imagine how women must have felt for eons — always fearful that they would be branded as sluts, or forced to give birth against their will, or experience sex as violent assault. Women carry these anxieties in their emotional DNA.
Some men are now finding out that it’s not fun to be afraid.
Asclepias
Diamond Member
A lot less than have actually been raped and not reported it.Never had a problem with women because I'm not scum. Maybe you are?Laws and rulings written or judged by liberals, have the power of the State behind them, and fuck up men's lives.
YOur pretense that this is just "fear of women" is insanely dishonest of you.
You are lying about the issue, because you want to use emotion to protect and advance an agenda you cannot defend with Truth.
YOu are vile scum.
Your pretense that this is about bad men actually doing bad things and being punished for it, is a lie designed to fool only the willfully ignorant. And you can shove it up your ass.
My point stands.
The way the law is enforce right now, God Forbid the way you fucktards want to make it even worse,
is already fucking up the lives of men, for no reason(s) or no good reason(s).
Unfortunately, this is about bad men doing bad things and society covering it up so that they don't get punished. No one ever complains about men (or women) who mind their manners and keep their hands to themselves. I've been pinned against a wall and groped, had someone bite me in the ass through my jeans, etc. but there was no one to report it to at the time who would take it seriously. Do you actually expect women to take this abusive shit without complaint?
The trashy little whore in the Oval Office just actually apologized to the drunken bully being sworn in "on behalf of the nation," saying nothing about or to the millions of women who have been subjected to this abuse. Bullshit.
You talk about "the truth," without saying what the truth is, but you can't handle the truth.
HOw do you distinguish between actual bad men, and men falsely accused?
How many people have been falsely accused?
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Quite possibly and plausibly as many as have been rightfully accusedNever had a problem with women because I'm not scum. Maybe you are?Laws and rulings written or judged by liberals, have the power of the State behind them, and fuck up men's lives.
YOur pretense that this is just "fear of women" is insanely dishonest of you.
You are lying about the issue, because you want to use emotion to protect and advance an agenda you cannot defend with Truth.
YOu are vile scum.
Your pretense that this is about bad men actually doing bad things and being punished for it, is a lie designed to fool only the willfully ignorant. And you can shove it up your ass.
My point stands.
The way the law is enforce right now, God Forbid the way you fucktards want to make it even worse,
is already fucking up the lives of men, for no reason(s) or no good reason(s).
Unfortunately, this is about bad men doing bad things and society covering it up so that they don't get punished. No one ever complains about men (or women) who mind their manners and keep their hands to themselves. I've been pinned against a wall and groped, had someone bite me in the ass through my jeans, etc. but there was no one to report it to at the time who would take it seriously. Do you actually expect women to take this abusive shit without complaint?
The trashy little whore in the Oval Office just actually apologized to the drunken bully being sworn in "on behalf of the nation," saying nothing about or to the millions of women who have been subjected to this abuse. Bullshit.
You talk about "the truth," without saying what the truth is, but you can't handle the truth.
HOw do you distinguish between actual bad men, and men falsely accused?
How many people have been falsely accused?
Wrong.In spite of what you tRpkins have been fed that it vanishingly rare.You don’t have to be a rapist to be accused wrongly.Since I'm not a rapist I'm not afaid.
Woman Rolls Eyes During Sentencing for False Rape Accusation
Deputies: Woman falsely accused man of abducting, raping her because he wouldn't give her a ride home
Duke lacrosse case - Wikipedia
'Guilty until proven innocent': life after a false rape accusation
Woman falsely accused police of rape, assault, prosecutors say
Footballer, 20, falsely accused of raping student says ordeal left him "broken"
$2.6M Judgment in Brian Banks False Rape Case
Woman, 18, charged after lying about being raped by two Conn. college football players: cops - NY Daily News
109 women prosecuted for false rape claims in five years, say campaigners
Want more?
I thought we just took a woman's word for it. Maybe it is because we investigate.
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False.A lot less than have actually been raped and not reported it.Never had a problem with women because I'm not scum. Maybe you are?
Your pretense that this is about bad men actually doing bad things and being punished for it, is a lie designed to fool only the willfully ignorant. And you can shove it up your ass.
My point stands.
The way the law is enforce right now, God Forbid the way you fucktards want to make it even worse,
is already fucking up the lives of men, for no reason(s) or no good reason(s).
Unfortunately, this is about bad men doing bad things and society covering it up so that they don't get punished. No one ever complains about men (or women) who mind their manners and keep their hands to themselves. I've been pinned against a wall and groped, had someone bite me in the ass through my jeans, etc. but there was no one to report it to at the time who would take it seriously. Do you actually expect women to take this abusive shit without complaint?
The trashy little whore in the Oval Office just actually apologized to the drunken bully being sworn in "on behalf of the nation," saying nothing about or to the millions of women who have been subjected to this abuse. Bullshit.
You talk about "the truth," without saying what the truth is, but you can't handle the truth.
HOw do you distinguish between actual bad men, and men falsely accused?
How many people have been falsely accused?
There is no evidence of that
Asclepias
Diamond Member
Not that I care if he disagrees but why does he disagree?Daniel Holtzclaw disagreesSome men are intelligent enough and emotionally mature enough to empathize with what women must go through. Those men are not afraid because they have nothing to be afraid of. Can a woman falsely accuse them? Sure but so could a man. So could a child. These are just things we just live with on a day to day basis. We dont live in fear because when there is truth on your side fear cant find a foothold.No one wants to live in fear, and most people don't aspire to have others live in fear of them, in my opinion. However if this fear results in a reckoning regarding the how women have traditionally been treated by men in society, then something positive may come of it
Fear is not a pleasant thing, but transformation usually requires it. Coupled with empathy, it might lead men to imagine how women must have felt for eons — always fearful that they would be branded as sluts, or forced to give birth against their will, or experience sex as violent assault. Women carry these anxieties in their emotional DNA.
Some men are now finding out that it’s not fun to be afraid.
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And women only have a right to be pissed at the few men who commit such crimesBullshit.Men are not afraid and in fear. We are pissed! If the Democrats win the election, they will pass a law that a man is always guilty if a woman claims he raped her.No one wants to live in fear, and most people don't aspire to have others live in fear of them, in my opinion. However if this fear results in a reckoning regarding the how women have traditionally been treated by men in society, then something positive may come of it
Fear is not a pleasant thing, but transformation usually requires it. Coupled with empathy, it might lead men to imagine how women must have felt for eons — always fearful that they would be branded as sluts, or forced to give birth against their will, or experience sex as violent assault. Women carry these anxieties in their emotional DNA.
Some men are now finding out that it’s not fun to be afraid.
Men have all the power in this country. Men have no right to be pissed. It really proves your stupidity.
Money is power and women control most of the money.
Men have every right to be pissed when women make false accusations.
You only have a right to be pissed at the one making the false claims. Hating all women will eventually bite you in the ass due to the fact that women are the foundation of civilized society.
Asclepias
Diamond Member
Sure there is. You should do some research so you wont appear to be as ignorant as you are.False.A lot less than have actually been raped and not reported it.Your pretense that this is about bad men actually doing bad things and being punished for it, is a lie designed to fool only the willfully ignorant. And you can shove it up your ass.
My point stands.
The way the law is enforce right now, God Forbid the way you fucktards want to make it even worse,
is already fucking up the lives of men, for no reason(s) or no good reason(s).
Unfortunately, this is about bad men doing bad things and society covering it up so that they don't get punished. No one ever complains about men (or women) who mind their manners and keep their hands to themselves. I've been pinned against a wall and groped, had someone bite me in the ass through my jeans, etc. but there was no one to report it to at the time who would take it seriously. Do you actually expect women to take this abusive shit without complaint?
The trashy little whore in the Oval Office just actually apologized to the drunken bully being sworn in "on behalf of the nation," saying nothing about or to the millions of women who have been subjected to this abuse. Bullshit.
You talk about "the truth," without saying what the truth is, but you can't handle the truth.
HOw do you distinguish between actual bad men, and men falsely accused?
How many people have been falsely accused?
There is no evidence of that
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