This time its a 14 year old who shot his teacher

[Politico]

Goddamn it first Nevada and now this. The killings are probably connected somehow. We gotta do something abut these kids and their assault rifles. Wouldn't surprised if they're connected. Are the parents under arrest yet for giving him the gun? What the hell did they need an automatic rifle for anyway?

can you not get sidetracked by hysteria of hypocritical wingnuts?

the cases are TARGETED - it is a planned murder - so it has a reason.
The Nevada situation is clearly triggered by bullying.
This might be bullying or blatant unfairness by a teacher.

Students at schools are being cornered - by idiotic policies, by idiotic rules and by idiotic adults - the reaction might be different, but you need to get to the reason this is happening, not get into convulsing antigun hysteria - and that is what you are doing, by the trigger of the OP, who is a known antigun leftard.

I would neg you for being so sad. But I really don't think you know what you're doing

 

[Politico]

Case and point.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

We don't want to use these incidents as 'political fodder.' We want the killings to stop. We (society/human beings) will never be able to eliminate anger or bad feelings, strong emotion, etc. What we can do is eliminate the means with which folks act out that anger and kill someone when they are in the throws of that intense emotion: guns. Guns make it too easy to just blow yourself or others away in the heat of the moment.

The elephant in the room is not good or bad teachers, good or bad schools, good or bad parenting, troubled kids, or any other of the myriad things you want to blame. It is guns.

The only way you're going to stop people from killing other people is to eliminate all the people.

 

[Esmeralda]

can you not get sidetracked by hysteria of hypocritical wingnuts?

the cases are TARGETED - it is a planned murder - so it has a reason.
The Nevada situation is clearly triggered by bullying.
This might be bullying or blatant unfairness by a teacher.

Students at schools are being cornered - by idiotic policies, by idiotic rules and by idiotic adults - the reaction might be different, but you need to get to the reason this is happening, not get into convulsing antigun hysteria - and that is what you are doing, by the trigger of the OP, who is a known antigun leftard.

Bullying could be a reason why a student is angry and upset with a teacher or someone else. The REASON people are dead is because the student had access to a gun, took it to school, and killed someone. The REASON someone is dead is not bullying or anger or any other emotion. The REASON someone is dead is that a child thought the way to deal with that anger was to kill someone and the child had access to a gun with which to do the killing.

you idiot, the teacher was not killed by a gun.

talking about stupid and low-informed leftard.

14-year-old arrested in murder of Massachusetts teacher charged as adult | Fox News

14-year-old arrested in murder of Massachusetts teacher charged as adult

 

[Vox]

Bullying could be a reason why a student is angry and upset with a teacher or someone else. The REASON people are dead is because the student had access to a gun, took it to school, and killed someone. The REASON someone is dead is not bullying or anger or any other emotion. The REASON someone is dead is that a child thought the way to deal with that anger was to kill someone and the child had access to a gun with which to do the killing.

you idiot, the teacher was not killed by a gun.

talking about stupid and low-informed leftard.

14-year-old arrested in murder of Massachusetts teacher charged as adult | Fox News

14-year-old arrested in murder of Massachusetts teacher charged as adult

and? where does it says he SHOT her?

 

[Esmeralda]

Where does it say he didn't? And, btw, the victim is a her, not a him.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Where does it say he didn't? And, btw, the victim is a her, not a him.

So you're just going to assume she was shot. With absolutely no evidence.

Typical libturd!

 

[Vox]

Where does it say he didn't? And, btw, the victim is a her, not a him.

I know that for you, antigun wingnuts everything isabout gun-grabbing and nothing else matters

but he did not shoot her, otherwise the other antigun wingnuts in the media would already be wailing.

 

[Vox]

Where does it say he didn't? And, btw, the victim is a her, not a him.

So you're just going to assume she was shot. With absolutely no evidence.

Typical libturd!

of course, she WANTS her to be shot.

But she is a typical brainwashed leftard wingnut - without any ability to THINK.
Would it be a gun - it would already be all over the news - "another gun victim - we have to do something" et cetera, et cetera, et cetera

 

[Pennywise]

You have a beautiful young (too young to teach HS) teacher murdered by a savage 14 year old. Reverse the races and this is headline news for months if not years until trial.

The teacher was apparently beloved by all. This is a case of a sexual psychopath, likely raised on internet porn and no parenting, who sees a hot prospect to go ghetto on and acts on primal instinct. Hard to believe we don't see more of this actually. But I guess we don't since society has become so utterly scumified that women and girls are more than happy to debase themselves now for a few bucks and a hyperlink of the video to add to their selfies.

 

[Vox]

You have a beautiful young (too young to teach HS) teacher murdered by a savage 14 year old. Reverse the races and this is headline news for months if not years until trial.

The teacher was apparently beloved by all. This is a case of a sexual psychopath, likely raised on internet porn and no parenting, who sees a hot prospect to go ghetto on and acts on primal instinct. Hard to believe we don't see more of this actually. But I guess we don't since society has become so utterly scumified that women and girls are more than happy to debase themselves now for a few bucks and a hyperlink of the video to add to their selfies.

that could be the reason as well

 

[JOSweetHeart]

No matter how the kid took his teacher out, the kid should be tried as an adult if they knew what they were doing and to me there is a good chance that the kid knew exactly what they were doing.

God bless you and the teacher's family always!!!

Holly

 

[Politico]

How is it there have been no who little old me no one has mentioned anything anti gun posts?

 

[laughinReaper]

You're right. When I first posted this without a link, it was what I heard on the TV news. I believe they said it was a shooting death but now I'm not sure.

Apparently cause of death has not been announced.

My mistake.

Because you couldn't wait to use his death as political fodder for your anti-American agenda. You were giddy as soon as you heard the story, no doubt.

We don't want to use these incidents as 'political fodder.' We want the killings to stop. We (society/human beings) will never be able to eliminate anger or bad feelings, strong emotion, etc. What we can do is eliminate the means with which folks act out that anger and kill someone when they are in the throws of that intense emotion: guns. Guns make it too easy to just blow yourself or others away in the heat of the moment.

The elephant in the room is not good or bad teachers, good or bad schools, good or bad parenting, troubled kids, or any other of the myriad things you want to blame. It is guns.

You want to stop the killing? Let parents do their job without the government butting in at every corner. Kids Used to be spanked, there was a reason for that. You can't reason with kids who don't have all their reasoning facalties. Sometimes the kid doesn't understand why they can't do something no matter how much you explain it to them. So you use your authority as a parent backed up with an ounce of pain if they disobey. It's worked for centuries. Now that we have stopped disciplining kids that way and tried the liberal,talk to the kids way, we have a bunch of whiney,entitled, run amok violent kids who think they can do what they want cause there are no consequences they fear.

The second part of this problem is the liberal family unit. Lets embrace the single mother,fathers aren't necessary,and any other combo goes. The kid has little stability, and boys don't have a steady roll models. Any boy can grow up to be a male but boys need to be taught to be proper men, it doesn't come naturally. Boys don't even respond to the female voice the same way they respond to a male voice. You can have a room full of screaming boys with a women screaming for them to quiet down and they keep right on going. A man walks in the room and yells and they stop dead in their tracks. It's how they are hard wired. With most of the violent acts recently being out of control males,maybe it's time we went back to the old school ways of doing things.

Third part of the problem is having two parents working. Back in the day mothers stayed home and were involved constantly in thier childs lives. Moms were room mothers,lunch aids,involved heavily in PTA,scouts,church activites and home when the kids got there. When I was a kid we had a lunch hour and we walked home for lunch. We had constant contact with the family unit. All it took was a teacher to say, "I'm gonna call your mother at lunchtime" and that whipped the kid back in line. Why? Because kids were controlled from home. If my teacher called my house, my ass got beat when I came home, even if the teacher diciplined me at school. My mother took it as a personal disrespect of HER authority. She taught me how to act in school and I damn sure better do it. Then when dad found out,now there was some real fear. The dread alone waiting for the other shoe to drop was hell,even if he only yelled at me. The worst words a kid could ever hear in my day was "wait until I tell your father what you did".

Now you libers will say that I want to put the women back in the kitchen. But not true. Family across the street has the father home all day. This is good cause the mother doesn't have a nurturing bone in her body and the father does. The mother also had a better job than her husband who worked for Fed Ex. He stays home,he keeps the kids in line, he gets them off to school, he works part time and is involved in his kids lives.

The fifth thing is outside play and face to face interaction with peers. Too much TV,too much violent video games,to much social media and not enough one on one with kids outside burning off their energy. Basically kids have too much time on thier hands. You rarely ever saw a fat kid 35 years ago. Why? because we were outside running around. You didn't have the drama because issues got settled on the playground. Home was a safe haven to get away from the school and playground drama. You always had one place to feel safe when things went wrong. Also alot of things that get said today never got said at all. Why? because people act differently when they are face to face with a person than over the internet. Sure rumors were spread but you also knew when it got back to the person, a face to face contfrontation was coming. If you didn't want to back it up you didn't say it. There was also parental control outside too. My mother knew all the other mothers, had their numbers and knew their kids. If I did something wrong three streets away, my mother would know by the time I got home, and yes my ass got beat and I got sent to my room. It's hard to be like that on social media, so the kids just get away with it until something goes very wrong.


You want the insanity to stop? Put those five things back into place.

 

[Yurt]

as i predicted as soon as luddly found out this death was not caused by a gun, he would abandon the thread as he no longer cares about this death

in fact, he is off in another thread created a couple hours about a gun death while not giving two cents about this death

pathetic

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Was the black killer "stalking" the woman?

Turns out he's not black.

Like the rw hero, George Zimmerman, he's Latino/white.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Because you couldn't wait to use his death as political fodder for your anti-American agenda. You were giddy as soon as you heard the story, no doubt.

We don't want to use these incidents as 'political fodder.' We want the killings to stop. We (society/human beings) will never be able to eliminate anger or bad feelings, strong emotion, etc. What we can do is eliminate the means with which folks act out that anger and kill someone when they are in the throws of that intense emotion: guns. Guns make it too easy to just blow yourself or others away in the heat of the moment.

The elephant in the room is not good or bad teachers, good or bad schools, good or bad parenting, troubled kids, or any other of the myriad things you want to blame. It is guns.

You want to stop the killing? Let parents do their job without the government butting in at every corner. Kids Used to be spanked, there was a reason for that. You can't reason with kids who don't have all their reasoning facalties. Sometimes the kid doesn't understand why they can't do something no matter how much you explain it to them. So you use your authority as a parent backed up with an ounce of pain if they disobey. It's worked for centuries. Now that we have stopped disciplining kids that way and tried the liberal,talk to the kids way, we have a bunch of whiney,entitled, run amok violent kids who think they can do what they want cause there are no consequences they fear.

The second part of this problem is the liberal family unit. Lets embrace the single mother,fathers aren't necessary,and any other combo goes. The kid has little stability, and boys don't have a steady roll models. Any boy can grow up to be a male but boys need to be taught to be proper men, it doesn't come naturally. Boys don't even respond to the female voice the same way they respond to a male voice. You can have a room full of screaming boys with a women screaming for them to quiet down and they keep right on going. A man walks in the room and yells and they stop dead in their tracks. It's how they are hard wired. With most of the violent acts recently being out of control males,maybe it's time we went back to the old school ways of doing things.

Third part of the problem is having two parents working. Back in the day mothers stayed home and were involved constantly in thier childs lives. Moms were room mothers,lunch aids,involved heavily in PTA,scouts,church activites and home when the kids got there. When I was a kid we had a lunch hour and we walked home for lunch. We had constant contact with the family unit. All it took was a teacher to say, "I'm gonna call your mother at lunchtime" and that whipped the kid back in line. Why? Because kids were controlled from home. If my teacher called my house, my ass got beat when I came home, even if the teacher diciplined me at school. My mother took it as a personal disrespect of HER authority. She taught me how to act in school and I damn sure better do it. Then when dad found out,now there was some real fear. The dread alone waiting for the other shoe to drop was hell,even if he only yelled at me. The worst words a kid could ever hear in my day was "wait until I tell your father what you did".

Now you libers will say that I want to put the women back in the kitchen. But not true. Family across the street has the father home all day. This is good cause the mother doesn't have a nurturing bone in her body and the father does. The mother also had a better job than her husband who worked for Fed Ex. He stays home,he keeps the kids in line, he gets them off to school, he works part time and is involved in his kids lives.

The fifth thing is outside play and face to face interaction with peers. Too much TV,too much violent video games,to much social media and not enough one on one with kids outside burning off their energy. Basically kids have too much time on thier hands. You rarely ever saw a fat kid 35 years ago. Why? because we were outside running around. You didn't have the drama because issues got settled on the playground. Home was a safe haven to get away from the school and playground drama. You always had one place to feel safe when things went wrong. Also alot of things that get said today never got said at all. Why? because people act differently when they are face to face with a person than over the internet. Sure rumors were spread but you also knew when it got back to the person, a face to face contfrontation was coming. If you didn't want to back it up you didn't say it. There was also parental control outside too. My mother knew all the other mothers, had their numbers and knew their kids. If I did something wrong three streets away, my mother would know by the time I got home, and yes my ass got beat and I got sent to my room. It's hard to be like that on social media, so the kids just get away with it until something goes very wrong.


You want the insanity to stop? Put those five things back into place.

How can families live without two incomes?

Raise minimum wage?

 

[Yurt]

Was the black killer "stalking" the woman?

Turns out he's not black.

Like the rw hero, George Zimmerman, he's Latino/white.

seriously?

 

[daveman]

According to the accusation read in court, the boy is accused of assaulting and beating Ritzer to death.

14-year-old accused of killing beloved Danvers, Massachusetts, teacher - CNN.com

so we have the rabid anti gun nutter luddly hysterically jumping to conclusions

now watch, he won't care about this death anymore because a gun wasn't involved

such a tragedy but of course luddly had to use it to falsely accuse those who hold different beliefs of not caring, when in reality, he doesn't care

 

[laughinReaper]

Oh one more thing and this ones a dirty little secret from the past. Religious instruction. Yup church. Why is it a dirty little secret? Well we all have a Norman Rockwell picture of the family sitting in church back in the day but that's not necessarily true. Most of the the time only one parent went, again usually Mom. But in some cases neither parent went as was the case of my Grandparents. Because your church was in the same area that you worked,went to school in and lived,many times the parent would get the kid up on Sunday,give the kid his offering and have him walk to church. Because the kid was controlled from home,he arrived,sat in Sunday school,behaved and got this instruction. Even though people like my grandfather didn't go or even necessiarily believe,they saw the value of moral instruction of their children and made sure they got it according to thier basic belief system.

Sunday was a family day. when I was a kid every store and business had to be closed by 12 am Sunday morning due to blue laws. Almost every family was home on Sunday and together. We did church,family and a big Sunday dinner. If your parents didn't go to church they sent you and they had coffee,a paper and quiet time. Shutting everything down for Sabbeth served a purpose and not just for religions sake, it forced parents and children to stop for one day and act as a unit. Cousins would come over,friendly card games played,lively conversations,just picture a small scale Thanksgiving every Sunday. The family unit was regularly reinforced with weekly moral teachings.
Because of the greed of retailers, we don't have that anymore.