This might explain the Noah's Ark parable in the bible

[surada]

So many indigenous cultures in places around the world have accounts of floods or destruction on previous society with a significant number of common elements, there would be more to the worldwide flood account than parabolic teaching just representing other things.

Local floods can be devastating and they couldn't view it from a plane.

The flood of the Euphrates River Basin in 2900 BC was 150 miles wide and 350 miles to the South towards the Persian Gulf. That was their whole world.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The recent flash flooding in parts of the world from Flagstaff to Germany to Oman that has caused enormous damage and loss of life might have happened 3,000 years ago or more. The accounts were noted and as years went by they were embellished more and more and before you knew it was..God ordered Noah to build an ark and then flooded the entire world...Merkel visits 'surreal' flood zone as death toll rises

That's cute!

Made me LOL - out loud

 

[surada]

The recent flash flooding in parts of the world from Flagstaff to Germany to Oman that has caused enormous damage and loss of life might have happened 3,000 years ago or more. The accounts were noted and as years went by they were embellished more and more and before you knew it was..God ordered Noah to build an ark and then flooded the entire world...Merkel visits 'surreal' flood zone as death toll rises

Oh my.. a man with a brain.. How refreshing.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Local floods can be devastating and they couldn't view it from a plane.

The flood of the Euphrates River Basin in 2900 BC was 150 miles wide and 350 miles to the South towards the Persian Gulf. That was their whole world.

Our ancestors were simpletons and thought the stars were far away campfires!

 

[surada]

Our ancestors were simpletons and thought the stars were far away campfires!

I wonder.. I have seen some really innovative ways to cope with climate, irrigation and security. They were probably a lot like us with some clever innovators and others running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I wonder.. I have seen some really innovative ways to cope with climate, irrigation and security. They were probably a lot like us with some clever innovators and others running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

Do you see the ruins at the photo I posted? Do you know what they are?

 

[surada]

Do you see the ruins at the photo I posted? Do you know what they are?

I don't .. where is it.. I was wondering Baalbek because of the size of the stones.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I don't .. where is it.. I was wondering Baalbek because of the size of the stones.

Yes. There are 2 distinctive forms of architecture: the Roman and some civilization far, far older at the Foundation.

The older stone are badly weathered, this happens when limestone gets submerged.

 

[surada]

Yes. There are 2 distinctive forms of architecture: the Roman and some civilization far, far older at the Foundation.

The older stone are badly weathered, this happens when limestone gets submerged.

Where is it?

So it is Baalbek? Its been 50 years since I was there.. it borders a swamp I think .. and the Litani river isn't too far away.. so maybe the erosion was caused by tiver flooding.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

The recent flash flooding in parts of the world from Flagstaff to Germany to Oman that has caused enormous damage and loss of life might have happened 3,000 years ago or more. The accounts were noted and as years went by they were embellished more and more and before you knew it was..God ordered Noah to build an ark and then flooded the entire world...Merkel visits 'surreal' flood zone as death toll rises

Noah's Ark PARABLE

 

[surada]

Noah's Ark PARABLE

This was popular from Egypt to Turkey to Arabia.

Gilgamesh – The Full Story – Mark Ronan
www.markronan.com/languages/gilgamesh/gilgamesh-full
Gilgamesh – The Full Story. The Epic of Gilgamesh is one of the great works of literature, and one of the oldest. It was first composed in ancient Mesopotamia during the early second millennium BC, in the Akkadian language, and an excellent translation is given by Andrew George (Penguin Classics 1999).The narrative is divided into eleven books comprising about 3,000 lines in total.

 

[BreezeWood]

Noah's Ark PARABLE

- would indeed be the evil angel to ascribe a rendering for the slaughter of wildlife being related to their own misdeeds as written in their book. of forgeries and fallacies.

 

[surada]

Food for thought. The fact that almost every culture on earth has a FLOOD story supports the idea that the flood was actually more than a local random event......in prima facie consideration. Especially civilizations found to exist in the western Hemisphere......that had no contact with the peoples of the eastern Hemisphere. Most of native Americans.......in south and north America have passed down numerous flood accounts.

The really strange thing? Even the most elevated points on earth demonstrate evidence of being underwater as the fossil record proves that evidence of sea life has been found even on elevated mountains such as Everest.

And the stranger thing? The Scriptures detail that during the flood, the mountains rose and the valleys sank. There is no evidence of when these "continental shifts" actually occurred (the scriptures declare that it was during the flood)........as the theory of Carbon dating anything that been subject to water leeching is most unreliable. When every point on earth is demonstrated to have been under water........carbon dating is nothing more than shooting an arrow at the side of the barn.........then rushing up to draw a large bullseye around the arrow while declaring......"Told ya.........dead center".

The scriptures detail a change in weather and geological topography when revealing the history of the flood. In Genesis 8:1 The winds began to blow. This the very first mention of a weather event called WINDS. Sure......it could mean that up until that time it was not worth mentioning winds....but it could also mean that the climate on the earth was changing drastically...as its cold air meeting warm air that produces high winds.

Other changes occurred during this time period, as mentioned earlier, God mentions that the mountains rose and the valleys sank (Ps. 104:6-9). This means that our mountains are a great deal higher today than they were during the time period of Noah. The valleys sinking more than likely is referring to the need for having a place to for all the receding water to collect..........such as the 7 mile deep trench....etc.

People attempt to say.......the flood could cover all the land masses on earth as they point out the elevation of the highest peaks on earth......and forget about the lowest points on earth. Science proves these peaks were not always that high nor the ocean floors always that low....and the sea floors have changed many times in history.

Its also most interesting to point to another fact of science. The mountains of Mt. Ararat (the supposed resting place of the Ark) are formed from pillow lava.........stone that can only be produced by underwater volcanic flow under great pressure due to depth.

None of that is true. The euphrates river basin is flat
The Himalayas are still getting taller. This is first year geology.

 

[Clyde 154]

None of that is true. The euphrates river basin is flat
The Himalayas are still getting taller. This is first year geology.

Who was alive to deny or confirm a flood event. The first prerequisite in determining a fact of Science is OBSERVATION. Produce your observation of a pre-flood earth's topography.

What part of the earth's geographical topography changed are you failing to comprehend? (Ps. 104:8) You can't look at the current locations of the continents and oceans and declare it was the same BEFORE THE FLOOD. The Bible declares the Mountains of the earth rose and the valley's sank during the flood event. Some of these new valley's are 7 miles deep....while the mountains that existed prior to the flood were no where near today's height.........confirmed via the simple act of the science called Archaeology.......where archaeology confirmed the fact there is not one inch of land on earth that has never been underwater as exampled by the fossil record of sea life existing on the highest peaks on earth.

Then you will invoke the theory of Radio Carbon dating...........which a theory only as its not possible to verify the ages suggested because every inch of land surface and all the creatures buried beneath have been subject to WATER LEECHING.

So.........pseudoscience uses the circular method to record their "targeted" ages. They declare the age of the strata based upon the fossils found therein.......and then age the fossils by the estimated age of the soil they are found in. Circular Logic.

If you dig up a human body that died last century.........part of which might be fossilized, would you declare it to be the same age as the dirt it was found in? Yet archaeology has found Soft Tissue and Blood cells from a T Rex boneyard and declare that DIRT MUST HAVE BEE SPECIAL to preserve the soft tissue over 65-70 Million years.....yeah, some magic soil.

Today........its called continental drift THEORY. You can't present any information about the earth's surface areas or the depths of the oceans BEFORE THE FLOOD. All you do is engage in Assumptions, Conjectures and Speculation called hypotheses and theories. Why? A Fact of Science can only be confirmed through the scientific method of experimentation that provides consistent, OBSERVABLE, and REPRODUCIBLE outcomes.

 

[surada]

What part of the earth's geographical topography changed are you failing to comprehend? (Ps. 104:8) You can't look at the current locations of the continents and oceans and declare it was the same BEFORE THE FLOOD.

Today........its called continental drift THEORY. You can't present any information about the earth's surface areas or the depths of the oceans BEFORE THE FLOOD. All you do is engage in Assumptions, Conjectures and Speculation called hypotheses and theories. Why? A Fact of Science can only be confirmed through the scientific method of experimentation that provides consistent, OBSERVABLE, and REPRODUCIBLE outcomes.

Because of the oil business and extensive geology for the past 100 years they know a lot about the region.

There's a flood footprint in the euphrates river basin. They know there was periodic flooding that built the delta south of Basra. They know how the Persian gulf was once a river and how the straits of hormuz opened up to the Indian ocean over millions of years.

These stories are morality tales about redemption. They are epic and memorable, but they aren't history. Same with the story of the Exodus and Joshua.

 

[Clyde 154]

Because of the oil business and extensive geology for the past 100 years they know a lot about the region.

There's a flood footprint in the euphrates river basin. They know there was periodic flooding that built the delta south of Basra. They know how the Persian gulf was once a river and how the straits of hormuz opened up to the Indian ocean over millions of years.

These stories are morality tales about redemption. They are epic and memorable, but they aren't history. Same with the story of the Exodus and Joshua.

Again..........circular deflection. They don't know what happened thousands of years ago.....before recorded history. You are delcaring they are SPECULATING and PRESENTING CONJECTURES based upon theories, not facts.

Show me any of the supposed scientific studies and you will see they are filled with subjective terminology such as SUGGESTS, MIGHT HAVE, APPEARS TO HAVE......COULD HAVE....etc.,

 

[surada]

Again..........circular deflection. They don't know what happened thousands of years ago.....before recorded history. You are delcaring they are SPECULATING and PRESENTING CONJECTURES based upon theories, not facts.

Show me any of the supposed scientific studies and you will see they are filled with subjective terminology such as SUGGESTS, MIGHT HAVE, APPEARS TO HAVE......COULD HAVE....etc.,

They can read the geological record.

 

[Clyde 154]

They can read the geological record.

They can SPECULATE and offer conjectures in relation to the supposed geological record as recorded by those who practice "pseudo science".

Reality: The entire geologic column used today, supposedly composed of all the layers of rock strata systems, exist only in diagrams "drawn" by supposed geologists. If the column were based upon reality, the column would reach into the upper atmosphere. Its all based upon a theory.....NOT facts as determined by the scientific method. Its a REPRESENTATION called stratigraphy. And its not consistent around the globe as presented. Example: the Statigraphy Column used in the United States finds the east coast inverted from the west coast.......meaning its impossible to accurately date, its all based upon the logical fallacy of searching for a target date that is predetermined.

Here are the documented FACTS. The column used to represent ages of both fossils and rock strata are not WORLDWIDE as you are suggesting in making the assumptions about the earth's supposed geological ages. The very notion that is promoted as a source of calibration for age determination claiming the earth has an onion like skin, made up in consistent layers all around the globe is nothing but a logical fallacy. The pseudo scientists suggest that the earth is made up of 10 layers like an onion skin and these layers are distributed equally around the globe.

Reality: Factual. The data from continents and ocean basins show that the supposed 10 layers are poorly represented at best on a global scale 70% of the earths supposed layers are missing in the supposed calibration source using the column scale. The data proves that in the ocean basins..........over 77% of these supposed layers are missing. Considering the fact that the world's oceans make up 71% of the earth's total surface mass................

Now you are pointing to these theories as PROOF the Bible is wrong when it documents the facts of Continental drift, and how the earth has changed during the flood event? Really?

Reality: You have no idea, might less any source of Objective, Observable, Consistent facts to present........you have conjecture, assumption and speculation based upon the need for a targeted Billions of Years instead of simply following the evidence in any factual manner.

 

[Likkmee]

The recent flash flooding in parts of the world from Flagstaff to Germany to Oman that has caused enormous damage and loss of life might have happened 3,000 years ago or more. The accounts were noted and as years went by they were embellished more and more and before you knew it was..God ordered Noah to build an ark and then flooded the entire world...Merkel visits 'surreal' flood zone as death toll rises

 

[foggedinn]

Although it doesn't fit the biblical timeline, I believe that there was a great flood when the ice sheets melted at the end of the last ice age. I also believe the stories of that flood were passed down orally.
Concerning the ark story, I believe that it foreshadows the story of another ark described in the Book of the Revelation that is 12000 furlongs 4-square. If my math is correct, that is approx. 38% of the cubic volume of the moon. There are many rooms in our Fathers house.