Zone1 This is What the Government has done for Whites

[Hellbilly]

So what are you guys whining about, then?

Land back.

 

[IM2]

Uh, guy, sorry, man, if you are going to blame every failure you have on someone else, then you will always fail.

Success is realizing there are ALWAYS going to be obstacles, life is RARELY fair, and the key to getting by is getting up one more time than they knock you down.

But if you are going to whine, "Boo-hoo, my Dad didn't qualify for the GI Bill" 70 years ago, I'm not going to get terribly worked up.

You want to talk to me about pragmatic solutions, I'm with you 100%.

Affirmative Action- Might be needed, but has to be done a lot smarter.

Police Reform - Definitely needed, but not to the point where you've demonized law enforcement to the point were no one wants to sign up for it.



So what are you guys whining about, then?

Joe, white men who have faced no real obstacles need to stop trying to lecture people. YOU and those like YOU are the obstacle. You talk about my father. Now, what would have happened if he had got the GI benefits he deserved white man?

He would have got a college education in the 1950's thereby starting a path to increased wealth. He would have been able to get a government-guaranteed low-interest home loan, thereby able to purchase decent new housing that would have accrued wealth over time. He could have got the same low interest loan Joe Manchins daddy got to start that furniturre business which allowed Joe to have the capital he needed to go into business on his own. The lives of every member of my family would have been positively enhanced white man.

He was not unable to do those things because of the ordinary difficulties a white --- like you talks about are part of life. He was denied access to these things because of decisions made by whites. You don't seem to understand this because you've never faced it. So don't lecture me about life white man, because you've had it easy no matter how much you whine about how tough things were for you.

You don't want to talk about pragmatic solutions because you refuse to realize what the problem is. There is nothing wrong with affirmative action, the problem is the white male attitude of entitlement. Your asses are not entitled to every job. Not every person of color who gets the job is unqualified. Not every pasty white mf who gets the job is qualified. Qualified non-whites get passed over for scrub whites more often than the reverse and whites have had what you consider affirmative action since America was a colony. If you want pragmatic solutions, start recognizing these truths. Your ancestors illegally immigrated over here and arrogantly decided that the governments of 500 nations did not count.

Your ancestors invaded Africa with bibles and missionaries who sold guns to tribes they favored then purchased the prisoners of war and shipped them off to South American, Caribbean, and American colonies. Today some of you in this forum do not talk about that part and disingenuously talk about blacks selling other blacks as if the continent of Africa was not full of different nations and tribes.

You have been shown over 300 years of government handouts to whites and despite several centillion dollars spent on white economic development, there are still poor ass all-white shitholes in this country. Yet you and others like you tell us that after 58 years we should already be caught up.

Spare me the lectures chump, you aren't being blamed, you are being held to account. The root cause of the problems blacks face and our First Nation brethren such as hellbilly face are due to white racism. I've graduated from college. I have worked in Executive positions. And I recently finished a major project. This is not about my failure white man, it is about yours and every other white person who thinks like you.

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, white men who have faced no real obstacles need to stop trying to lecture people. YOU and those like YOU are the obstacle. You talk about my father. Now, what would have happened if he had got the GI benefits he deserved white man?

He would have got a college education in the 1950's thereby starting a path to increased wealth. He would have been able to get a government-guaranteed low-interest home loan, thereby able to purchase decent new housing that would have accrued wealth over time. He could have got the same low interest loan Joe Manchins daddy got to start that furniturre business which allowed Joe to have the capital he needed to go into business on his own. The lives of every member of my family would have been positively enhanced white man.

Oh, okay. If we are comparing Dads

My Dad was a German immigrant. He was drafted into the Army in 1943, but he was kind of the outcast of the unit because he was born in Germany. (Ironically, his best friend in the service was a Jewish cab driver from LA). When he got back from the war, he joined the Sheet metal workers union, made a decent amount of money, and spent his entire life working with asbestos which eventually killed him at 56 when he still had two minor children. I also suspect he suffered from PTSD from the war. So, um, where was that White privilege again?

He was not unable to do those things because of the ordinary difficulties a white --- like you talks about are part of life. He was denied access to these things because of decisions made by whites. You don't seem to understand this because you've never faced it. So don't lecture me about life white man, because you've had it easy no matter how much you whine about how tough things were for you.

Again, lost a full-time position at a company to an affirmative action hire, and then got to watch her do nothing for a year and a half while I ended up doing all the work anyway. Don't want to hear that shit.

You don't want to talk about pragmatic solutions because you refuse to realize what the problem is. There is nothing wrong with affirmative action, the problem is the white male attitude of entitlement. Your asses are not entitled to every job. Not every person of color who gets the job is unqualified. Not every pasty white mf who gets the job is qualified. Qualified non-whites get passed over for scrub whites more often than the reverse and whites have had what you consider affirmative action since America was a colony. If you want pragmatic solutions, start recognizing these truths. Your ancestors illegally immigrated over here and arrogantly decided that the governments of 500 nations did not count.

Well, that's the problem, isn't it. Those 500 nations spent as much time fighting each other as they did fighting the invaders... that wasn't very smart.

Of course, when my Grandfather came over here, he had the contents of a couple steamer trunks with a wife and baby in tow, barely spoke the language, and was probably called a "Kraut" more than once. But, um, yeah, white privilege or something.

Your ancestors invaded Africa with bibles and missionaries who sold guns to tribes they favored then purchased the prisoners of war and shipped them off to South American, Caribbean, and American colonies. Today some of you in this forum do not talk about that part and disingenuously talk about blacks selling other blacks as if the continent of Africa was not full of different nations and tribes.

I really didn't want to get into the "who sold who" argument because it was fucking silly... but if you want to drag me into it.. okay, yeah, you guys did this to yourselves. You also keep letting the gangs run your neighborhoods, have kids out of wedlock and demonize the police when they try to help. Then you sit there and whine when not only the white immigrants like Grandpa Ludwig pass you up, but the Asians and Latinos as well.

You have been shown over 300 years of government handouts to whites and despite several centillion dollars spent on white economic development, there are still poor ass all-white shitholes in this country. Yet you and others like you tell us that after 58 years we should already be caught up.

Sounds fair to me. My family had less time from "Showing up with steamer trunks" to "being part of the middle class". My generation are all professionals in their field, the generation that is following mine all have college degrees and some have master's degrees.

Spare me the lectures chump, you aren't being blamed, you are being held to account. The root cause of the problems blacks face and our First Nation brethren such as hellbilly face are due to white racism. I've graduated from college. I have worked in Executive positions. And I recently finished a major project. This is not about my failure white man, it is about yours and every other white person who thinks like you.

Oh, look, here's another Internet Millionaire...
Successful people aren't as miserable as you are.

There are a lot of successful black people. They don't go around whining like you do, and they often get called "Uncle Toms" for succeeding.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Oh, okay. If we are comparing Dads

My Dad was a German immigrant. He was drafted into the Army in 1943, but he was kind of the outcast of the unit because he was born in Germany. (Ironically, his best friend in the service was a Jewish cab driver from LA). When he got back from the war, he joined the Sheet metal workers union, made a decent amount of money, and spent his entire life working with asbestos which eventually killed him at 56 when he still had two minor children. I also suspect he suffered from PTSD from the war. So, um, where was that White privilege again?



Again, lost a full-time position at a company to an affirmative action hire, and then got to watch her do nothing for a year and a half while I ended up doing all the work anyway. Don't want to hear that shit.



Well, that's the problem, isn't it. Those 500 nations spent as much time fighting each other as they did fighting the invaders... that wasn't very smart.

Of course, when my Grandfather came over here, he had the contents of a couple steamer trunks with a wife and baby in tow, barely spoke the language, and was probably called a "Kraut" more than once. But, um, yeah, white privilege or something.



I really didn't want to get into the "who sold who" argument because it was fucking silly... but if you want to drag me into it.. okay, yeah, you guys did this to yourselves. You also keep letting the gangs run your neighborhoods, have kids out of wedlock and demonize the police when they try to help. Then you sit there and whine when not only the white immigrants like Grandpa Ludwig pass you up, but the Asians and Latinos as well.



Sounds fair to me. My family had less time from "Showing up with steamer trunks" to "being part of the middle class". My generation are all professionals in their field, the generation that is following mine all have college degrees and some have master's degrees.



Oh, look, here's another Internet Millionaire...
Successful people aren't as miserable as you are.

There are a lot of successful black people. They don't go around whining like you do, and they often get called "Uncle Toms" for succeeding.

IM2s accomplishments seem to change from week to week. His changeability really makes me doubt his success, not to mention no one with his attitudes could be a success in the business world. After all, who would work with or for a person with as much hatred in them as he has.

 

[Hellbilly]

GFY Joe. You're an ignorant white racist.

He sure had me fooled.

 

[IM2]

IM2s accomplishments seem to change from week to week. His changeability really makes me doubt his success, not to mention no one with his attitudes could be a success in the business world. After all, who would work with or for a person with as much hatred in them as he has.

My accomplishments have not changed. I don't have to repeat what I have done verbatim every time to prove things to you. You don't know what my attitude is, you assume based on your white racist perceptions that tells you that a good black person is accomodating and compliant, never to be allowed to express their disdain with what has gone on. You assume hate that's not there because you project yourself on me.

You are an old ass sorry racist white man who thinks blacks should genuflect to you and be grateful for the opportunity to live in a society where white men tell us to be glad that we aren't equal but how at least we aren't slaves. It's easy to talk that crap when you have been given all the preferences.

I've done better than you have, that's apparent with the way you whine about things that are not happening.

 

[IM2]

He sure had me fooled.

Yeah, he fooled me too, but his conversation with Paul have revealed what he is.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Whether it was colonial government or the current republic we have now, the government has provided whites with more than it has ever given to anyone else. This was not because people of color did not take the opportunity because most of these things EXCLUDED non white participation. The handouts/privilege started with this:

In 1618, the Virginia colony passed "the Great Charter of privileges, orders, and laws." Among these laws was a provision that any person who settled in Virginia or paid for the transportation of another person to settle in Virginia would get fifty acres of land per person. “The right to receive fifty acres per person, or per head, was called a headright.” It got even better for colonists as those who “imported” slaves also got fifty acres per slave. The practice was continued by the government of Virginia, for 161 years, ending in 1779. Headrights were not only limited to Virginia. The headright system was used in all the original thirteen colonies. Headrights were the first of many government handouts of free stuff or guarantees providing whites with economic development assistance.

It continued with this:

The Three-Fifths Compromise is found in Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution. It says: “Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three-fifths of all other Persons.”

And with this:

The Naturalization Act of 1790 states: “any alien, being a free white person,” could apply for citizenship, so long as they lived in the United States for at least two years and in the state where the application was filed for at least one year. This law allowed “children of citizens of the United States that may be born … out of the limits of the United States shall be considered as natural-born citizens.” Please notice the first seven words. Only whites were entitled to be citizens of this country.

And with this:

One of the greatest miscarriages of justice in this nation’s history was a direct rebuttal to the claim that all men are created equal called Dred Scott v. Sandford. I am not going into all the particulars of this case. The court’s opinion says all you need to know. “A black man has no rights a white man is bound to respect.” The result of Dred Scott v. Sandford was that whites were given rights and status blacks were denied.Or- Affirmative Action.

And with this:

Passed in 1862, the Homestead Acts gave away 246 million acres of land. To qualify for Homestead land, a person had to be a citizen of the United States, and blacks were not given citizenship until 1866.

And this:

On April 16, 1895, the United States Supreme Court rendered another one of the sorriest decisions in American history. It is known as Plessy vs. Ferguson. From this decision came the principle of separate but equal.

And this:

The National Housing Act was passed by Congress and signed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1934.29 This law created the Federal Housing Administration or the FHA. The National Housing Act is the policy that may have had the most impact on wealth accumulation in modern America.

Between 1934 and 1968, the FHA implemented and put into practice a policy that still negatively impacts communities today.30 The FHA Underwriting Manual set the guidelines real estate agents used to assess home values in American neighborhoods. This manual promoted racist real estate practices. It was done by defending racially restrictive covenants and segregated communities. Due to this manual, the FHA established a neighborhood grading system based purely on false racist perceptions.

Redlining was the name of that grading system. My point here is the FHA was a government agency whose policies specifically provided whites with opportunities to increase wealth through homeownership. The formation of the FHA and its guaranteed loan program only worked to increase white advantage. “Of the $120 billion worth of new housing subsidized by the government between 1934 and 1962, less than 2 percent went to nonwhite families.”

And this:

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children.Today, most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law excluded occupations mainly done by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, approximately two-thirds of the blacks in America were ineligible. For years, most blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

And this:

Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 provided grants to states as Aid To Dependent Children. Eventually the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare, folks. Assistance for single moms with children and no daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded.

And this:

The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 created the minimum wage and time and a half overtime pay for working over forty hours a week. Child labor was eliminated by this act. All these were good things, but… In every law that was passed as part of The New Deal, Roosevelt had to compromise with southern representatives to get the votes he needed. In the case of the FLSA, due to pressure from southern congress members, he decided that industries would be excluded from the regulations where the majority of workers were black. Because of this, blacks were paid less than the minimum wage.

And this:

On June 22, 1944, President Roosevelt signed the Servicemen’s Readjustment Act, better known as the G.I. Bill.38 This law provided benefits for veterans returning from World War Two. This act included funds for college tuition, low-cost home loans, and unemployment insurance. As in every other program during this time, southern members of Congress fought the passage of these laws unless there were provisions that limited access to blacks.

Over one million returning black soldiers were unable to get GI benefits. My father was one of those soldiers.

And today white women are the number one beneficiary of affirmative action. So when you're white trying to diss blacks with affirmative action, look in the mirror and you will see the image of the people who have benefitted the most from what you say Affirmative Action is. When you start ranting about government handouts and dependence look in the mirror again. The dependence on government by whites is why we see the complaining due to the fact that others are getting what some whites think they are entitled to. After all, when you bitch about imaginary quotas that if they were real, would give whites 70 percent of the jobs, admissions, government contracts and promotions, the only reason that you are bitching is because you believe you are entitled to everything.

FDR, LBJ and Biden are the biggest racists

 

[IM2]

FDR, LBJ and Biden are the biggest racists

Yada, yada, yada.

 

[Mac-7]

Whether it was colonial government or the current republic we have now, the government has provided whites with more than it has ever given to anyone else. This was not because people of color did not take the opportunity because most of these things EXCLUDED non white participation. The handouts/privilege started with this:

In 1618, the Virginia colony passed "the Great Charter of privileges, orders, and laws." Among these laws was a provision that any person who settled in Virginia or paid for the transportation of another person to settle in Virginia would get fifty acres of land per person. “The right to receive fifty acres per person, or per head, was called a headright.” It got even better for colonists as those who “imported” slaves also got fifty acres per slave. The practice was continued by the government of Virginia, for 161 years, ending in 1779. Headrights were not only limited to Virginia. The headright system was used in all the original thirteen colonies. Headrights were the first of many government handouts of free stuff or guarantees providing whites with economic development assistance.

It continued with this:

The Three-Fifths Compromise is found in Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution. It says: “Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three-fifths of all other Persons.”

And with this:

The Naturalization Act of 1790 states: “any alien, being a free white person,” could apply for citizenship, so long as they lived in the United States for at least two years and in the state where the application was filed for at least one year. This law allowed “children of citizens of the United States that may be born … out of the limits of the United States shall be considered as natural-born citizens.” Please notice the first seven words. Only whites were entitled to be citizens of this country.

And with this:

One of the greatest miscarriages of justice in this nation’s history was a direct rebuttal to the claim that all men are created equal called Dred Scott v. Sandford. I am not going into all the particulars of this case. The court’s opinion says all you need to know. “A black man has no rights a white man is bound to respect.” The result of Dred Scott v. Sandford was that whites were given rights and status blacks were denied.Or- Affirmative Action.

And with this:

Passed in 1862, the Homestead Acts gave away 246 million acres of land. To qualify for Homestead land, a person had to be a citizen of the United States, and blacks were not given citizenship until 1866.

And this:

On April 16, 1895, the United States Supreme Court rendered another one of the sorriest decisions in American history. It is known as Plessy vs. Ferguson. From this decision came the principle of separate but equal.

And this:

The National Housing Act was passed by Congress and signed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1934.29 This law created the Federal Housing Administration or the FHA. The National Housing Act is the policy that may have had the most impact on wealth accumulation in modern America.

Between 1934 and 1968, the FHA implemented and put into practice a policy that still negatively impacts communities today.30 The FHA Underwriting Manual set the guidelines real estate agents used to assess home values in American neighborhoods. This manual promoted racist real estate practices. It was done by defending racially restrictive covenants and segregated communities. Due to this manual, the FHA established a neighborhood grading system based purely on false racist perceptions.

Redlining was the name of that grading system. My point here is the FHA was a government agency whose policies specifically provided whites with opportunities to increase wealth through homeownership. The formation of the FHA and its guaranteed loan program only worked to increase white advantage. “Of the $120 billion worth of new housing subsidized by the government between 1934 and 1962, less than 2 percent went to nonwhite families.”

And this:

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children.Today, most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law excluded occupations mainly done by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, approximately two-thirds of the blacks in America were ineligible. For years, most blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

And this:

Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 provided grants to states as Aid To Dependent Children. Eventually the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare, folks. Assistance for single moms with children and no daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded.

And this:

The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 created the minimum wage and time and a half overtime pay for working over forty hours a week. Child labor was eliminated by this act. All these were good things, but… In every law that was passed as part of The New Deal, Roosevelt had to compromise with southern representatives to get the votes he needed. In the case of the FLSA, due to pressure from southern congress members, he decided that industries would be excluded from the regulations where the majority of workers were black. Because of this, blacks were paid less than the minimum wage.

And this:

On June 22, 1944, President Roosevelt signed the Servicemen’s Readjustment Act, better known as the G.I. Bill.38 This law provided benefits for veterans returning from World War Two. This act included funds for college tuition, low-cost home loans, and unemployment insurance. As in every other program during this time, southern members of Congress fought the passage of these laws unless there were provisions that limited access to blacks.

Over one million returning black soldiers were unable to get GI benefits. My father was one of those soldiers.
And today white women are the number one beneficiary of affirmative action. So when you're white trying to diss blacks with affirmative action, look in the mirror and you will see the image of the people who have benefitted the most from what you say Affirmative Action is. When you start ranting about government handouts and dependence look in the mirror again. The dependence on government by whites is why we see the complaining due to the fact that others are getting what some whites think they are entitled to. After all, when you bitch about imaginary quotas that if they were real, would give whites 70 percent of the jobs, admissions, government contracts and promotions, the only reason that you are bitching is because you believe you are entitled to everything.

Headrights, Headrights (VA-NOTES)

What was the Headright System? Headright System History & Significance | What was the Headright System? - Video & Lesson Transcript | Study.com

Williams, T. (2000). The Homestead Act: A major asset-building policy in American history (CSD Working Paper No. 00-9). St. Louis, MO: Washington University, Center for Social Development. Pg.11 The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-Building Policy in American History
Freedmen's Bureau Act, Freedmen's Bureau Act, March 3, 1865 | The Freedmen's Bureau Online

James Chen, National Housing Act, Updated Sep 3, 2019, What Is the National Housing Act?

Alexis C. Madrigal, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood, The Atlantic, May 22, 2014, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

PBS, Race-The Power of An Illusion, Uncle Sam Lends A Hand, Did the Government Racialize Housing and Wealth? RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Go Deeper | PBS

The Social Security Act of 1935, Social Security History

Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010

Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cond-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origins/

Linda Gordon and Felice Batlan, The Legal History of the Aid to Dependent Children Program, Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

Johnathan Grossman, Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938: Maximum Struggle for a Minimum Wage, U.S. Department of Labor, Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938: Maximum Struggle for a Minimum Wage | U.S. Department of Labor

Servicemen’s Readjustment Act (G.I. Bill), Servicemen's Readjustment Act (1944) Facts - G.I. Bill for Veterans

Erin Blakemore, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, June 21, 2019

Brandon Weber, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill, The Progressive, November 10, 2017, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill
Sally Kohn, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone, Time, JUNE 17, 2013, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone.

Fact Sheet: Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women, July 1, 2000, The National Womens Law Center, https://nwlc.org/resources/affirmative-action-and-what-it-means-women/

Tim Wise, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action, September 23, 1998, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action

Victoria M. Massie, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

You had to go back to some really dusty old manuscripts for today’s black grievance bitch fest

 

[IM2]

You had to go back to some really dusty old manuscripts for today’s black grievance bitch fest

No, these things are why whites have what you do now. This is a history of SOME of the things the government has given whites. Recognize.

It's funny how those like you react to this. You guys seem fine with telling us how we have depended on government, but whites are government handout addicts.

And this forum is the white grievance bitch forum. Most of what you whine about isn't even real.

 

[MizMolly]

Whether it was colonial government or the current republic we have now, the government has provided whites with more than it has ever given to anyone else. This was not because people of color did not take the opportunity because most of these things EXCLUDED non white participation. The handouts/privilege started with this:

In 1618, the Virginia colony passed "the Great Charter of privileges, orders, and laws." Among these laws was a provision that any person who settled in Virginia or paid for the transportation of another person to settle in Virginia would get fifty acres of land per person. “The right to receive fifty acres per person, or per head, was called a headright.” It got even better for colonists as those who “imported” slaves also got fifty acres per slave. The practice was continued by the government of Virginia, for 161 years, ending in 1779. Headrights were not only limited to Virginia. The headright system was used in all the original thirteen colonies. Headrights were the first of many government handouts of free stuff or guarantees providing whites with economic development assistance.

It continued with this:

The Three-Fifths Compromise is found in Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution. It says: “Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three-fifths of all other Persons.”

And with this:

The Naturalization Act of 1790 states: “any alien, being a free white person,” could apply for citizenship, so long as they lived in the United States for at least two years and in the state where the application was filed for at least one year. This law allowed “children of citizens of the United States that may be born … out of the limits of the United States shall be considered as natural-born citizens.” Please notice the first seven words. Only whites were entitled to be citizens of this country.

And with this:

One of the greatest miscarriages of justice in this nation’s history was a direct rebuttal to the claim that all men are created equal called Dred Scott v. Sandford. I am not going into all the particulars of this case. The court’s opinion says all you need to know. “A black man has no rights a white man is bound to respect.” The result of Dred Scott v. Sandford was that whites were given rights and status blacks were denied.Or- Affirmative Action.

And with this:

Passed in 1862, the Homestead Acts gave away 246 million acres of land. To qualify for Homestead land, a person had to be a citizen of the United States, and blacks were not given citizenship until 1866.

And this:

On April 16, 1895, the United States Supreme Court rendered another one of the sorriest decisions in American history. It is known as Plessy vs. Ferguson. From this decision came the principle of separate but equal.

And this:

The National Housing Act was passed by Congress and signed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1934.29 This law created the Federal Housing Administration or the FHA. The National Housing Act is the policy that may have had the most impact on wealth accumulation in modern America.

Between 1934 and 1968, the FHA implemented and put into practice a policy that still negatively impacts communities today.30 The FHA Underwriting Manual set the guidelines real estate agents used to assess home values in American neighborhoods. This manual promoted racist real estate practices. It was done by defending racially restrictive covenants and segregated communities. Due to this manual, the FHA established a neighborhood grading system based purely on false racist perceptions.

Redlining was the name of that grading system. My point here is the FHA was a government agency whose policies specifically provided whites with opportunities to increase wealth through homeownership. The formation of the FHA and its guaranteed loan program only worked to increase white advantage. “Of the $120 billion worth of new housing subsidized by the government between 1934 and 1962, less than 2 percent went to nonwhite families.”

And this:

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children.Today, most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law excluded occupations mainly done by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, approximately two-thirds of the blacks in America were ineligible. For years, most blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

And this:

Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 provided grants to states as Aid To Dependent Children. Eventually the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare, folks. Assistance for single moms with children and no daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded.

And this:

The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 created the minimum wage and time and a half overtime pay for working over forty hours a week. Child labor was eliminated by this act. All these were good things, but… In every law that was passed as part of The New Deal, Roosevelt had to compromise with southern representatives to get the votes he needed. In the case of the FLSA, due to pressure from southern congress members, he decided that industries would be excluded from the regulations where the majority of workers were black. Because of this, blacks were paid less than the minimum wage.

And this:

On June 22, 1944, President Roosevelt signed the Servicemen’s Readjustment Act, better known as the G.I. Bill.38 This law provided benefits for veterans returning from World War Two. This act included funds for college tuition, low-cost home loans, and unemployment insurance. As in every other program during this time, southern members of Congress fought the passage of these laws unless there were provisions that limited access to blacks.

Over one million returning black soldiers were unable to get GI benefits. My father was one of those soldiers.

And today white women are the number one beneficiary of affirmative action. So when you're white trying to diss blacks with affirmative action, look in the mirror and you will see the image of the people who have benefitted the most from what you say Affirmative Action is. When you start ranting about government handouts and dependence look in the mirror again. The dependence on government by whites is why we see the complaining due to the fact that others are getting what some whites think they are entitled to. After all, when you bitch about imaginary quotas that if they were real, would give whites 70 percent of the jobs, admissions, government contracts and promotions, the only reason that you are bitching is because you believe you are entitled to everything.

Since none of us were here when things were given to whites, your post is moot.

 

[MizMolly]

No, these things are why whites have what you do now. This is a history of SOME of the things the government has given whites. Recognize.

It's funny how those like you react to this. You guys seem fine with telling us how we have depended on government, but whites are government handout addicts.

And this forum is the white grievance bitch forum. Most of what you whine about isn't even real.

What are whites getting that you aren’t?

 

[JoeB131]

IM2s accomplishments seem to change from week to week. His changeability really makes me doubt his success, not to mention no one with his attitudes could be a success in the business world. After all, who would work with or for a person with as much hatred in them as he has.

I wouldn't. I couldn't imagine anyone else doing so, either.

Yeah, he fooled me too, but his conversation with Paul have revealed what he is.

Yeah, Paul has issues, and if you can't see that, that's kind of on you.

I'm who I've always been. I'll criticize the right when they have bad attitudes, I'll criticize people on the left just as readily.

 

[JoeB131]

Since none of us were here when things were given to whites, your post is moot.

Oh, come on, don't you realize that when white settlers went to Jamestown and struggled with near starvation, it was totally white privilege?

Starving Settlers in Jamestown Colony Resorted to Cannibalism

New archaeological evidence and forensic analysis reveals that a 14-year-old girl was cannibalized in desperation

www.smithsonianmag.com

The harsh winter of 1609 in Virginia’s Jamestown Colony forced residents to do the unthinkable. A recent excavation at the historic site discovered the carcasses of dogs, cats and horses consumed during the season commonly called the “Starving Time.” But a few other newly discovered bones in particular, though, tell a far more gruesome story: the dismemberment and cannibalization of a 14-year-old English girl.

“The chops to the forehead are very tentative, very incomplete,” says Douglas Owsley, the Smithsonian forensic anthropologist who analyzed the bones after they were found by archaeologists from Preservation Virginia. “Then, the body was turned over, and there were four strikes to the back of the head, one of which was the strongest and split the skull in half. A penetrating wound was then made to the left temple, probably by a single-sided knife, which was used to pry open the head and remove the brain.”

It’s long been speculated that the harsh conditions faced by the colonists of Jamestown might have made them desperate enough to eat other humans—and perhaps even commit murder to do so. The colony was founded in 1607 by 104 settlers aboard three ships, the Susan Constant, Discovery and Godspeed, but only 38 survived the first nine months of life in Jamestown,

 

[Mac-7]

No, these things are why whites have what you do now. This is a history of SOME of the things the government has given whites. Recognize.

It's funny how those like you react to this. You guys seem fine with telling us how we have depended on government, but whites are government handout addicts.

And this forum is the white grievance bitch forum. Most of what you whine about isn't even real.

The real burr in your saddle is that black people just cant get it together in spite the many helping given to you

 

[IM2]

The real burr in your saddle is that black people just cant get it together in spite the many helping given to you

The burr in my saddle is that we have not received 404 years of government assistance like whites have. So why don't show me all this government help that has been exclusively given to blacks.

 

[MizMolly]

The burr in my saddle is that we have not received 404 years of government assistance like whites have. So why don't show me all this government help that has been exclusively given to blacks.

Neither have we. What assistance are you imagining that us whites today get that you don’t? You never answer this because your posts are bullshit.

 

[JoeB131]

The burr in my saddle is that we have not received 404 years of government assistance like whites have. So why don't show me all this government help that has been exclusively given to blacks.

Neither have we. What assistance are you imagining that us whites today get that you don’t? You never answer this because your posts are bullshit.

Good point.

The biggest bit of "government assistance" I got in my life was a college scholarship through the National Guard.

That same scholarship was available to any person of color who wanted it.

 

[Mac-7]

The burr in my saddle is that we have not received 404 years of government assistance like whites have. So why don't show me all this government help that has been exclusively given to blacks.

So you want a minority time machine to rewrite history?

If so I’m with you

Lets ho back to 1601 and ban the importation of slaves from africa

If so I’m still here and POOF you disappear from the American landscape