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[martybegan]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

Why is it "all or nothing" in the mind of liberals when it comes to conservatives?

Because its all their tiny little minds can contemplate.

 

[Iceweasel]

Almost half of the U.S. population lives in areas where air pollution levels are often dangerously high for them to breathe. Air pollution dangerously high for almost half of U.S. American Lung Association reports - CBS News

I'm not going to bother with your whole idiotic post but it's mostly about the ozone..."
Looking at average levels of pollutants from 2010, 2011 and 2012, the report found that ozone levels were higher -- likely due to warmer temperatures. However, both year-round and short-term particle pollution were much lower than the numbers reported in 2013.
Still, this year's finding of a "great increase in ozone pollution is of great concern," Dr. Norman Edelman, who was involved in preparing the report, told CBS News in an email.

Then this..."while Fresno-Madera was found to have the most particle pollution."

I lived in Fresno, the San Joaquin Valley is the agriculture center of California (and a major one nationally). It's very dusty there for much of the year due to farming activity in a semi-arid Mediterranean climate so the article is very dishonest.

 

[Derideo_Te]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

I wonder what the world would look like to you if you had more than a room temperature IQ.

Ironic!

 

[Iceweasel]

Ironic!

Asshole!

 

[peach174]

No one in this country wants dirty air and water.
Cutting the size of EPA and over burdensome regulations will not cause that.

The conservatives don't want to cut the size of the EPA. They want to eliminate it completely.

Removing the regulations on pollution will cause America to have air like China.

You just don't want to admit the facts.

You don't want to accept facts.
They want to cut the size of the EPA and remove the IRS completely.
They do not want to cut regulations we have now.
We have more than 85 to 89% of pollution contained. It's the ones being added now that cost too much.

Really?

And you can provide a credible nonpartisan to prove that claim?

Did the OP provide a link proving his claim that this is what Republicans "want"?

There have already been links provided proving that Republicans want to eliminate the EPA altogether.

There is still no link to support the claim that "85 to 89% of pollution" is "contained".

Just because one or two say it does not mean all Republicans want the EPA eliminated.
EPA link -
Air Pollution Statistics
89% of lead pollution has been contained.
EPA states that carbon monoxide pollution in the United States went down by 51% from 2000 to 2010. This drop is the second highest percentage drop behind lead.

 

[peach174]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

Why is it "all or nothing" in the mind of liberals when it comes to conservatives?

Because its all their tiny little minds can contemplate.

Because some on the left see in black and white the same accusation that they accuse conservatives of.
Cutting the size of the EPA to them is getting rid of it.
One republican says get rid of the EPA it's all Republicans.

 

[Derideo_Te]

The conservatives don't want to cut the size of the EPA. They want to eliminate it completely.

Removing the regulations on pollution will cause America to have air like China.

You just don't want to admit the facts.

You don't want to accept facts.
They want to cut the size of the EPA and remove the IRS completely.
They do not want to cut regulations we have now.
We have more than 85 to 89% of pollution contained. It's the ones being added now that cost too much.

Really?

And you can provide a credible nonpartisan to prove that claim?

Did the OP provide a link proving his claim that this is what Republicans "want"?

There have already been links provided proving that Republicans want to eliminate the EPA altogether.

There is still no link to support the claim that "85 to 89% of pollution" is "contained".

Just because one or two say it does not mean all Republicans want the EPA eliminated.
EPA link -
Air Pollution Statistics
89% of lead pollution has been contained.
EPA states that carbon monoxide pollution in the United States went down by 51% from 2000 to 2010. This drop is the second highest percentage drop behind lead.

Thank you for providing the link and admitting that you were wrong. I appreciate the honesty.

 

[Derideo_Te]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

Why is it "all or nothing" in the mind of liberals when it comes to conservatives?

Because its all their tiny little minds can contemplate.

Because some on the left see in black and white the same accusation that they accuse conservatives of.
Cutting the size of the EPA to them is getting rid of it.
One republican says get rid of the EPA it's all Republicans.

Cutting the EPA to the point where it is rendered ineffectual is tantamount to getting rid of it. That is what happens when you pull the funding and repeal the regulations. It is purely semantics to claim that the goal is not to render the EPA null and void and allow corporations free reign to pollute as they please.

 

[martybegan]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

Why is it "all or nothing" in the mind of liberals when it comes to conservatives?

Because its all their tiny little minds can contemplate.

Because some on the left see in black and white the same accusation that they accuse conservatives of.
Cutting the size of the EPA to them is getting rid of it.
One republican says get rid of the EPA it's all Republicans.

Cutting the EPA to the point where it is rendered ineffectual is tantamount to getting rid of it. That is what happens when you pull the funding and repeal the regulations. It is purely semantics to claim that the goal is not to render the EPA null and void and allow corporations free reign to pollute as they please.

ah argumentum ad absurdum, the first refuge of the weak debater.

 

[peach174]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

Why is it "all or nothing" in the mind of liberals when it comes to conservatives?

Because its all their tiny little minds can contemplate.

Because some on the left see in black and white the same accusation that they accuse conservatives of.
Cutting the size of the EPA to them is getting rid of it.
One republican says get rid of the EPA it's all Republicans.

Cutting the EPA to the point where it is rendered ineffectual is tantamount to getting rid of it. That is what happens when you pull the funding and repeal the regulations. It is purely semantics to claim that the goal is not to render the EPA null and void and allow corporations free reign to pollute as they please.

link
no where I have seen that EPA cuts would become that dramatic.
No one in this country wants corporations to have free reign to pollute as they please.
Proof right here - black and white thinking.
EPA has become too big for it's britches by trying to regulate private land dry bed water run offs and ponds.
The EPA has no right to personally revise the parameters of the Clean Water Act, that's Congresses job.

 

[Iceweasel]

Cutting the EPA to the point where it is rendered ineffectual is tantamount to getting rid of it. That is what happens when you pull the funding and repeal the regulations.

That isn't supported by the GOP, you apparently downsized your argument to finding some guy on the internet.

 

[Derideo_Te]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

Why is it "all or nothing" in the mind of liberals when it comes to conservatives?

Because its all their tiny little minds can contemplate.

Because some on the left see in black and white the same accusation that they accuse conservatives of.
Cutting the size of the EPA to them is getting rid of it.
One republican says get rid of the EPA it's all Republicans.

Cutting the EPA to the point where it is rendered ineffectual is tantamount to getting rid of it. That is what happens when you pull the funding and repeal the regulations. It is purely semantics to claim that the goal is not to render the EPA null and void and allow corporations free reign to pollute as they please.

ah argumentum ad absurdum, the first refuge of the weak debater.

Ironic!

 

[Derideo_Te]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

Why is it "all or nothing" in the mind of liberals when it comes to conservatives?

Because its all their tiny little minds can contemplate.

Because some on the left see in black and white the same accusation that they accuse conservatives of.
Cutting the size of the EPA to them is getting rid of it.
One republican says get rid of the EPA it's all Republicans.

Cutting the EPA to the point where it is rendered ineffectual is tantamount to getting rid of it. That is what happens when you pull the funding and repeal the regulations. It is purely semantics to claim that the goal is not to render the EPA null and void and allow corporations free reign to pollute as they please.

link
no where I have seen that EPA cuts would become that dramatic.
No one in this country wants corporations to have free reign to pollute as they please.
Proof right here - black and white thinking.
EPA has become too big for it's britches by trying to regulate private land dry bed water run offs and ponds.
The EPA has no right to personally revise the parameters of the Clean Water Act, that's Congresses job.

Seriously?

You want a bunch of lawyers and other shysters deciding what constitutes clean water as opposed to scientists and engineers that have actually studied the subject?

The whole corrupt movement behind shrinking the EPA to the point where is can be "drowned in a bathtub of effluents" is greedy corporations are bribing politicians so that they don't have to pay to clean up their toxic pollution.

What is even worse is that you are aiding and abetting them in attempting to destroy the legacy of our children and grandchildren.

 

[peach174]

Why is it "all or nothing" in the mind of liberals when it comes to conservatives?

Because its all their tiny little minds can contemplate.

Because some on the left see in black and white the same accusation that they accuse conservatives of.
Cutting the size of the EPA to them is getting rid of it.
One republican says get rid of the EPA it's all Republicans.

Cutting the EPA to the point where it is rendered ineffectual is tantamount to getting rid of it. That is what happens when you pull the funding and repeal the regulations. It is purely semantics to claim that the goal is not to render the EPA null and void and allow corporations free reign to pollute as they please.

link
no where I have seen that EPA cuts would become that dramatic.
No one in this country wants corporations to have free reign to pollute as they please.
Proof right here - black and white thinking.
EPA has become too big for it's britches by trying to regulate private land dry bed water run offs and ponds.
The EPA has no right to personally revise the parameters of the Clean Water Act, that's Congresses job.

Seriously?

You want a bunch of lawyers and other shysters deciding what constitutes clean water as opposed to scientists and engineers that have actually studied the subject?

The whole corrupt movement behind shrinking the EPA to the point where is can be "drowned in a bathtub of effluents" is greedy corporations are bribing politicians so that they don't have to pay to clean up their toxic pollution.

What is even worse is that you are aiding and abetting them in attempting to destroy the legacy of our children and grandchildren.

Changing our Tax code would get rid of most the corporations bribing the politicians.
Once again drowned in a bathtub said by one person is not all of Republicans.
The EPA changing the rules by itself ( which is unconstitutional) is what is making the lawyers rich from the lawsuits, the EPA has become corrupt.
Your support of a Department making rules and regulations rather than congress is what is destroying the legacy of our children

 

[hadit]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

Why is it "all or nothing" in the mind of liberals when it comes to conservatives?

Because liberals don't understand nuance, obviously.

 

[hadit]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

No one in this country wants dirty air and water.
Cutting the size of EPA and over burdensome regulations will not cause that.

The conservatives don't want to cut the size of the EPA. They want to eliminate it completely.

Removing the regulations on pollution will cause America to have air like China.

You just don't want to admit the facts.

Yep. Republicans want to get rid of background checks, put blacks in chains, take women's reproductive rights away, beat children, and take away everyone's kittens.

Don't forget that they want to wear white after Labor Day, too.

 

[hipeter924]

Picture cleaning Romney's floor. Forever. As the only breathable air would be in the homes of the rich.

 

[hadit]

When it comes to pollution, we're much better off now than we have been in a long time. At some point, you have to admit we're going after diminishing returns.

 

[mudwhistle]

Picture cleaning Romney's floor. Forever. As the only breathable air would be in the homes of the rich.

Utter nonsense.
How is that even possible? Will the rich live in glass domes in the future?

 

[hipeter924]

Picture cleaning Romney's floor. Forever. As the only breathable air would be in the homes of the rich.

Utter nonsense.
How is that even possible? Will the rich live in glass domes in the future?

You realize I am not being serious right.