This is well said

[iamwhatiseem]

Separation of Church and States, remember? You can take your God and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. The US will never be a theocracy.

You do know it was about keeping organized religion out of government, not God or Christian beliefs?
Thus Separation of Church and State, not Separation of Christianity and State.

 

[freyasman]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

So only people who believe what you believe and who look like you should be represented and free.

Basically.

All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.

Does this apply to gay people? Not likely.

How do you figure that?

Based upon the facts surrounding what I said.

None of the gay folks I know are complaining.

Well all 4 of them may be doing fine but we are discussing millions of others. Things are slowly changing but there are still those fighting against that in too far many numbers.

6.
My aunt and her wife, my uncle and his husband, my buddy R, and my former coworker M.

I know quite a few more than that, but not well enough to call them friends.

Anti-LGBTQ+ Group Says Amy Coney Barrett Could End Marriage Equality

So?

So for whatever lame reasons they can come up with people have no desire to leave others alone.

My uncle and his husband got married almost 30 years ago.

They didn't need anyone's permission and they sure as hell didn't ask.

They couldn't take the benefits allotted to straight couples.

30 years ago they wouldn't have had legal protections. If one got sick and in the hospital one wouldn't have had the same rights as a straight couple.

The constitution does not specify Hetero family units....BUT IT DOES SPECIFY progeny...... Got some Idea how that can work...Schmedley? Cuz if ya do I'm all in with the initial investment dude...or dudette or PRONOUN SPECIFIED or whatever the fuck.

JO

We have tens of thousands of kids needing adopted.

Gay couples can have kids in the same way some straight couples do. Surrogate, artificial insemination, etc.

Not without a female body being involved

Which does nothing to address my point.

I'm not talking about sexual preference or social convenience I'm telling you that adoption was not a part of the constitutional construct.

I care less. Kids still need adopted and the more available families the better.

Homosexuality Is the Gateway to Pedosexuality; and Neither One Is Actually a Sexuality at All

A molested generation loses the will to survive. This has been known for millennia. The laws against perversion are not religious; the leaders who wanted their nations to survive added that in order to give a more effective motivation to make people afraid to get seduced into such a destructive, addictive, and obsessive mental disorder.

Well then it's time to shut down the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts.

Not saying there wasn't bad shit going on there, but look at the number of abuse cases in the public school system and compare them to both the church and the scouts put together......... once you've done that, we can revisit just exactly who should be getting shut down.

 

[freyasman]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

So only people who believe what you believe and who look like you should be represented and free.

Basically.

All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.

Does this apply to gay people? Not likely.

How do you figure that?

Based upon the facts surrounding what I said.

None of the gay folks I know are complaining.

Well all 4 of them may be doing fine but we are discussing millions of others. Things are slowly changing but there are still those fighting against that in too far many numbers.

6.
My aunt and her wife, my uncle and his husband, my buddy R, and my former coworker M.

I know quite a few more than that, but not well enough to call them friends.

Anti-LGBTQ+ Group Says Amy Coney Barrett Could End Marriage Equality

So?

So for whatever lame reasons they can come up with people have no desire to leave others alone.

My uncle and his husband got married almost 30 years ago.

They didn't need anyone's permission and they sure as hell didn't ask.

They couldn't take the benefits allotted to straight couples.

30 years ago they wouldn't have had legal protections. If one got sick and in the hospital one wouldn't have had the same rights as a straight couple.

Yeah, they also didn't have to worry about getting divorce raped in court either.

I never have understood why they wanted governmental approval.

If we want to get the government 100% out of it, cool with me but until then all deserve the same protections and benefits.

I want the government out of almost everything.

As far as I'm concerned, government should protect our borders and deliver the mail on time and not a damn thing else.

Fuck all those corrupt incompetent parasites.

Until then I'm going to argue for all to be treated the same.

You ever see me arguing against that?
Ever?

I noted that you and I were the only ones to support the 11 in Massachusetts. Not even those who pretend to support the 2nd Amendment would do so. With that being the case I support it all falling apart and it will but until then I will side with those who want all treated equally.

Well it's going to fall apart all right but don't be in too big of a hurry.

Because it's going to really suck.

Perhaps.

Look up Selco Begovic..... read what he has to say.

If I find the time but I can make my own opinion on things.

I think you'll find his books interesting. Make the time if you can.

 

[22lcidw]

Separation of Church and States, remember? You can take your God and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. The US will never be a theocracy.

The Soviet Union became totally separated. Within a few decades 60 million dead.

 

[justoffal]

Separation of Church and States, remember? You can take your God and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. The US will never be a theocracy.

The Soviet Union became totally separated. Within a few decades 60 million dead.

Secularism became a much worse religion than the one they tried to eliminate with it. So it is today....you can see religious zeal ( not for good things either ) in the movement of the left. They become crazed devotees.

JO

 

[pknopp]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

So only people who believe what you believe and who look like you should be represented and free.

Basically.

All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.

Does this apply to gay people? Not likely.

How do you figure that?

Based upon the facts surrounding what I said.

None of the gay folks I know are complaining.

Well all 4 of them may be doing fine but we are discussing millions of others. Things are slowly changing but there are still those fighting against that in too far many numbers.

6.
My aunt and her wife, my uncle and his husband, my buddy R, and my former coworker M.

I know quite a few more than that, but not well enough to call them friends.

Anti-LGBTQ+ Group Says Amy Coney Barrett Could End Marriage Equality

So?

So for whatever lame reasons they can come up with people have no desire to leave others alone.

My uncle and his husband got married almost 30 years ago.

They didn't need anyone's permission and they sure as hell didn't ask.

They couldn't take the benefits allotted to straight couples.

30 years ago they wouldn't have had legal protections. If one got sick and in the hospital one wouldn't have had the same rights as a straight couple.

The constitution does not specify Hetero family units....BUT IT DOES SPECIFY progeny...... Got some Idea how that can work...Schmedley? Cuz if ya do I'm all in with the initial investment dude...or dudette or PRONOUN SPECIFIED or whatever the fuck.

JO

We have tens of thousands of kids needing adopted.

Gay couples can have kids in the same way some straight couples do. Surrogate, artificial insemination, etc.

Not without a female body being involved

Which does nothing to address my point.

I'm not talking about sexual preference or social convenience I'm telling you that adoption was not a part of the constitutional construct.

I care less. Kids still need adopted and the more available families the better.

Homosexuality Is the Gateway to Pedosexuality; and Neither One Is Actually a Sexuality at All

A molested generation loses the will to survive. This has been known for millennia. The laws against perversion are not religious; the leaders who wanted their nations to survive added that in order to give a more effective motivation to make people afraid to get seduced into such a destructive, addictive, and obsessive mental disorder.

Well then it's time to shut down the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts.

Not saying there wasn't bad shit going on there, but look at the number of abuse cases in the public school system and compare them to both the church and the scouts put together......... once you've done that, we can revisit just exactly who should be getting shut down.

In school situations (which would happen in private schools also) there have been prosecutions unlike with the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts who did all they could to simply cover it up.

 

[freyasman]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

So only people who believe what you believe and who look like you should be represented and free.

Basically.

All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.

Does this apply to gay people? Not likely.

How do you figure that?

Based upon the facts surrounding what I said.

None of the gay folks I know are complaining.

Well all 4 of them may be doing fine but we are discussing millions of others. Things are slowly changing but there are still those fighting against that in too far many numbers.

6.
My aunt and her wife, my uncle and his husband, my buddy R, and my former coworker M.

I know quite a few more than that, but not well enough to call them friends.

Anti-LGBTQ+ Group Says Amy Coney Barrett Could End Marriage Equality

So?

So for whatever lame reasons they can come up with people have no desire to leave others alone.

My uncle and his husband got married almost 30 years ago.

They didn't need anyone's permission and they sure as hell didn't ask.

They couldn't take the benefits allotted to straight couples.

30 years ago they wouldn't have had legal protections. If one got sick and in the hospital one wouldn't have had the same rights as a straight couple.

The constitution does not specify Hetero family units....BUT IT DOES SPECIFY progeny...... Got some Idea how that can work...Schmedley? Cuz if ya do I'm all in with the initial investment dude...or dudette or PRONOUN SPECIFIED or whatever the fuck.

JO

We have tens of thousands of kids needing adopted.

Gay couples can have kids in the same way some straight couples do. Surrogate, artificial insemination, etc.

Not without a female body being involved

Which does nothing to address my point.

I'm not talking about sexual preference or social convenience I'm telling you that adoption was not a part of the constitutional construct.

I care less. Kids still need adopted and the more available families the better.

Homosexuality Is the Gateway to Pedosexuality; and Neither One Is Actually a Sexuality at All

A molested generation loses the will to survive. This has been known for millennia. The laws against perversion are not religious; the leaders who wanted their nations to survive added that in order to give a more effective motivation to make people afraid to get seduced into such a destructive, addictive, and obsessive mental disorder.

Well then it's time to shut down the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts.

Not saying there wasn't bad shit going on there, but look at the number of abuse cases in the public school system and compare them to both the church and the scouts put together......... once you've done that, we can revisit just exactly who should be getting shut down.

In school situations (which would happen in private schools also) there have been prosecutions unlike with the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts who did all they could to simply cover it up.

Trust me, the school districts covered up a lot of shit.

 

[pknopp]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

So only people who believe what you believe and who look like you should be represented and free.

Basically.

All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.

Does this apply to gay people? Not likely.

How do you figure that?

Based upon the facts surrounding what I said.

None of the gay folks I know are complaining.

Well all 4 of them may be doing fine but we are discussing millions of others. Things are slowly changing but there are still those fighting against that in too far many numbers.

6.
My aunt and her wife, my uncle and his husband, my buddy R, and my former coworker M.

I know quite a few more than that, but not well enough to call them friends.

Anti-LGBTQ+ Group Says Amy Coney Barrett Could End Marriage Equality

So?

So for whatever lame reasons they can come up with people have no desire to leave others alone.

My uncle and his husband got married almost 30 years ago.

They didn't need anyone's permission and they sure as hell didn't ask.

They couldn't take the benefits allotted to straight couples.

30 years ago they wouldn't have had legal protections. If one got sick and in the hospital one wouldn't have had the same rights as a straight couple.

The constitution does not specify Hetero family units....BUT IT DOES SPECIFY progeny...... Got some Idea how that can work...Schmedley? Cuz if ya do I'm all in with the initial investment dude...or dudette or PRONOUN SPECIFIED or whatever the fuck.

JO

We have tens of thousands of kids needing adopted.

Gay couples can have kids in the same way some straight couples do. Surrogate, artificial insemination, etc.

Not without a female body being involved

Which does nothing to address my point.

I'm not talking about sexual preference or social convenience I'm telling you that adoption was not a part of the constitutional construct.

I care less. Kids still need adopted and the more available families the better.

Homosexuality Is the Gateway to Pedosexuality; and Neither One Is Actually a Sexuality at All

A molested generation loses the will to survive. This has been known for millennia. The laws against perversion are not religious; the leaders who wanted their nations to survive added that in order to give a more effective motivation to make people afraid to get seduced into such a destructive, addictive, and obsessive mental disorder.

Well then it's time to shut down the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts.

Not saying there wasn't bad shit going on there, but look at the number of abuse cases in the public school system and compare them to both the church and the scouts put together......... once you've done that, we can revisit just exactly who should be getting shut down.

In school situations (which would happen in private schools also) there have been prosecutions unlike with the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts who did all they could to simply cover it up.

Trust me, the school districts covered up a lot of shit.

Your argument seems to be that this wouldnt happen in a private school.

Yes it would.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

We knew all along that you dopes never loved America. You just had maladjusted and bastardized views of it that are no longer acceptable anywhere. So now you, of course, desire to blow it up and start anew. Fuck off. It will never happen. Either evolve to adjust yourself to the actual reality, STFU or get lost.

And if we don't?

What do you plan to do to us?

Nothing.
The better question is what are you planning?
You’re the malcontents who suggest violence is an option.

We're going to keep on living free, following our beliefs and hurting no one while we do it.
We're not going to fuck off and we're not going to get lost. We're not going to shut up either.

And like you said, you're going to do nothing.
Which I don't believe for one second..... you damn well intend to weaponize government agencies against us. You're not going to do anything directly, not yourself, because we both know you're a physical coward. That's why all of you are so gleeful about DHS and DOJ going after us for not bending the knee. As though using proxies to commit violence against people you don't like is somehow morally acceptable while doing it yourself is evil. (smh)


Maybe you should shut up and fuck off guy.
You're the bad guy here, not me.

Of course I personally would not “do anything”, whatever that means. I’m not a maladjusted moron.
The truth is that you don’t know me. Not in any way. You know what I choose to reveal. I don’t posture. I don’t threaten. I don’t suggest violence. That’s your game. You wear your insecurities proudly. As a result, the tantrums from the hardheaded malcontents like yourself tend to be misguided and dangerous. Your own behavior is why you draw the attention of govt agencies. It’s certainly nothing myself or any political party has done to you.

 

[freyasman]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

So only people who believe what you believe and who look like you should be represented and free.

Basically.

All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.

Does this apply to gay people? Not likely.

How do you figure that?

Based upon the facts surrounding what I said.

None of the gay folks I know are complaining.

Well all 4 of them may be doing fine but we are discussing millions of others. Things are slowly changing but there are still those fighting against that in too far many numbers.

6.
My aunt and her wife, my uncle and his husband, my buddy R, and my former coworker M.

I know quite a few more than that, but not well enough to call them friends.

Anti-LGBTQ+ Group Says Amy Coney Barrett Could End Marriage Equality

So?

So for whatever lame reasons they can come up with people have no desire to leave others alone.

My uncle and his husband got married almost 30 years ago.

They didn't need anyone's permission and they sure as hell didn't ask.

They couldn't take the benefits allotted to straight couples.

30 years ago they wouldn't have had legal protections. If one got sick and in the hospital one wouldn't have had the same rights as a straight couple.

The constitution does not specify Hetero family units....BUT IT DOES SPECIFY progeny...... Got some Idea how that can work...Schmedley? Cuz if ya do I'm all in with the initial investment dude...or dudette or PRONOUN SPECIFIED or whatever the fuck.

JO

We have tens of thousands of kids needing adopted.

Gay couples can have kids in the same way some straight couples do. Surrogate, artificial insemination, etc.

Not without a female body being involved

Which does nothing to address my point.

I'm not talking about sexual preference or social convenience I'm telling you that adoption was not a part of the constitutional construct.

I care less. Kids still need adopted and the more available families the better.

Homosexuality Is the Gateway to Pedosexuality; and Neither One Is Actually a Sexuality at All

A molested generation loses the will to survive. This has been known for millennia. The laws against perversion are not religious; the leaders who wanted their nations to survive added that in order to give a more effective motivation to make people afraid to get seduced into such a destructive, addictive, and obsessive mental disorder.

Well then it's time to shut down the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts.

Not saying there wasn't bad shit going on there, but look at the number of abuse cases in the public school system and compare them to both the church and the scouts put together......... once you've done that, we can revisit just exactly who should be getting shut down.

In school situations (which would happen in private schools also) there have been prosecutions unlike with the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts who did all they could to simply cover it up.

Trust me, the school districts covered up a lot of shit.

Your argument seems to be that this wouldnt happen in a private school.

Yes it would.

No that's not what I was getting at.

Both the church and the scouts did a lot of good; the public school system has always been garbage. Why is it the first 2 should be destroyed but not the 3rd?
Especially when the public school system has far more abuse cases while also consistently failing at its primary function.

 

[freyasman]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

We knew all along that you dopes never loved America. You just had maladjusted and bastardized views of it that are no longer acceptable anywhere. So now you, of course, desire to blow it up and start anew. Fuck off. It will never happen. Either evolve to adjust yourself to the actual reality, STFU or get lost.

And if we don't?

What do you plan to do to us?

Nothing.
The better question is what are you planning?
You’re the malcontents who suggest violence is an option.

We're going to keep on living free, following our beliefs and hurting no one while we do it.
We're not going to fuck off and we're not going to get lost. We're not going to shut up either.

And like you said, you're going to do nothing.
Which I don't believe for one second..... you damn well intend to weaponize government agencies against us. You're not going to do anything directly, not yourself, because we both know you're a physical coward. That's why all of you are so gleeful about DHS and DOJ going after us for not bending the knee. As though using proxies to commit violence against people you don't like is somehow morally acceptable while doing it yourself is evil. (smh)


Maybe you should shut up and fuck off guy.
You're the bad guy here, not me.

Of course I personally would not “do anything”, whatever that means. I’m not a maladjusted moron.
The truth is that you don’t know me. Not in any way. You know what I choose to reveal. I don’t posture. I don’t threaten. I don’t suggest violence. That’s your game. You wear your insecurities proudly. As a result, the tantrums from the hardheaded malcontents like yourself tend to be misguided and dangerous. Your own behavior is why you draw the attention of govt agencies. It’s certainly nothing myself or any political party has done to you.

Lol, what a coward.

You bluster and arrogantly tell your betters to "evolve" and to " stfu" and when you're called on it, you crawfish and whimper like a petulant child.

You're the malcontent here; you're offended that people won't think, believe, or do what you want, as though you were anything but a simpering little bitch.

 

[Penelope]

22lcidw

I repeat the USA will never become a theocracy. The alt right as the republicans go, the further left the left will go. The republicans want a theocracy and 1 party which leads to communism.

 

[Penelope]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

So only people who believe what you believe and who look like you should be represented and free.

Basically.

All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.

Does this apply to gay people? Not likely.

How do you figure that?

Based upon the facts surrounding what I said.

None of the gay folks I know are complaining.

Well all 4 of them may be doing fine but we are discussing millions of others. Things are slowly changing but there are still those fighting against that in too far many numbers.

6.
My aunt and her wife, my uncle and his husband, my buddy R, and my former coworker M.

I know quite a few more than that, but not well enough to call them friends.

Anti-LGBTQ+ Group Says Amy Coney Barrett Could End Marriage Equality

So?

So for whatever lame reasons they can come up with people have no desire to leave others alone.

My uncle and his husband got married almost 30 years ago.

They didn't need anyone's permission and they sure as hell didn't ask.

They couldn't take the benefits allotted to straight couples.

30 years ago they wouldn't have had legal protections. If one got sick and in the hospital one wouldn't have had the same rights as a straight couple.

The constitution does not specify Hetero family units....BUT IT DOES SPECIFY progeny...... Got some Idea how that can work...Schmedley? Cuz if ya do I'm all in with the initial investment dude...or dudette or PRONOUN SPECIFIED or whatever the fuck.

JO

We have tens of thousands of kids needing adopted.

Gay couples can have kids in the same way some straight couples do. Surrogate, artificial insemination, etc.

Not without a female body being involved

Which does nothing to address my point.

I'm not talking about sexual preference or social convenience I'm telling you that adoption was not a part of the constitutional construct.

I care less. Kids still need adopted and the more available families the better.

Homosexuality Is the Gateway to Pedosexuality; and Neither One Is Actually a Sexuality at All

A molested generation loses the will to survive. This has been known for millennia. The laws against perversion are not religious; the leaders who wanted their nations to survive added that in order to give a more effective motivation to make people afraid to get seduced into such a destructive, addictive, and obsessive mental disorder.

Well then it's time to shut down the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts.

Not saying there wasn't bad shit going on there, but look at the number of abuse cases in the public school system and compare them to both the church and the scouts put together......... once you've done that, we can revisit just exactly who should be getting shut down.

In school situations (which would happen in private schools also) there have been prosecutions unlike with the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts who did all they could to simply cover it up.

Trust me, the school districts covered up a lot of shit.

Your argument seems to be that this wouldnt happen in a private school.

Yes it would.

No that's not what I was getting at.

Both the church and the scouts did a lot of good; the public school system has always been garbage. Why is it the first 2 should be destroyed but not the 3rd?
Especially when the public school system has far more abuse cases while also consistently failing at its primary function.

View attachment 510523

What is wrong with "government schools"?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

We knew all along that you dopes never loved America. You just had maladjusted and bastardized views of it that are no longer acceptable anywhere. So now you, of course, desire to blow it up and start anew. Fuck off. It will never happen. Either evolve to adjust yourself to the actual reality, STFU or get lost.

And if we don't?

What do you plan to do to us?

Nothing.
The better question is what are you planning?
You’re the malcontents who suggest violence is an option.

We're going to keep on living free, following our beliefs and hurting no one while we do it.
We're not going to fuck off and we're not going to get lost. We're not going to shut up either.

And like you said, you're going to do nothing.
Which I don't believe for one second..... you damn well intend to weaponize government agencies against us. You're not going to do anything directly, not yourself, because we both know you're a physical coward. That's why all of you are so gleeful about DHS and DOJ going after us for not bending the knee. As though using proxies to commit violence against people you don't like is somehow morally acceptable while doing it yourself is evil. (smh)


Maybe you should shut up and fuck off guy.
You're the bad guy here, not me.

Of course I personally would not “do anything”, whatever that means. I’m not a maladjusted moron.
The truth is that you don’t know me. Not in any way. You know what I choose to reveal. I don’t posture. I don’t threaten. I don’t suggest violence. That’s your game. You wear your insecurities proudly. As a result, the tantrums from the hardheaded malcontents like yourself tend to be misguided and dangerous. Your own behavior is why you draw the attention of govt agencies. It’s certainly nothing myself or any political party has done to you.

Lol, what a coward.

You bluster and arrogantly tell your betters to "evolve" and to " stfu" and when you're called on it, you crawfish and whimper like a petulant child.

You're the malcontent here; you're offended that people won't think, believe, or do what you want, as though you were anything but a simpering little bitch.

You bluster and arrogantly tell your betters to "evolve" and to " stfu" and when you're called on it, you crawfish and whimper like a petulant child

Your inability to grasp the point does not constitute “crawfishing” or bluster on my part. What you suggest will never happen. Good, decent Americans will never allow it. Just as with 1/6, any actors who choose to try will be run down and dealt with accordingly.
BTW, using antique slang you heard in cowboy movies does not make you appear tough. Only ridiculous.

 

[freyasman]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

So only people who believe what you believe and who look like you should be represented and free.

Basically.

All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.

Does this apply to gay people? Not likely.

How do you figure that?

Based upon the facts surrounding what I said.

None of the gay folks I know are complaining.

Well all 4 of them may be doing fine but we are discussing millions of others. Things are slowly changing but there are still those fighting against that in too far many numbers.

6.
My aunt and her wife, my uncle and his husband, my buddy R, and my former coworker M.

I know quite a few more than that, but not well enough to call them friends.

Anti-LGBTQ+ Group Says Amy Coney Barrett Could End Marriage Equality

So?

So for whatever lame reasons they can come up with people have no desire to leave others alone.

My uncle and his husband got married almost 30 years ago.

They didn't need anyone's permission and they sure as hell didn't ask.

They couldn't take the benefits allotted to straight couples.

30 years ago they wouldn't have had legal protections. If one got sick and in the hospital one wouldn't have had the same rights as a straight couple.

The constitution does not specify Hetero family units....BUT IT DOES SPECIFY progeny...... Got some Idea how that can work...Schmedley? Cuz if ya do I'm all in with the initial investment dude...or dudette or PRONOUN SPECIFIED or whatever the fuck.

JO

We have tens of thousands of kids needing adopted.

Gay couples can have kids in the same way some straight couples do. Surrogate, artificial insemination, etc.

Not without a female body being involved

Which does nothing to address my point.

I'm not talking about sexual preference or social convenience I'm telling you that adoption was not a part of the constitutional construct.

I care less. Kids still need adopted and the more available families the better.

Homosexuality Is the Gateway to Pedosexuality; and Neither One Is Actually a Sexuality at All

A molested generation loses the will to survive. This has been known for millennia. The laws against perversion are not religious; the leaders who wanted their nations to survive added that in order to give a more effective motivation to make people afraid to get seduced into such a destructive, addictive, and obsessive mental disorder.

Well then it's time to shut down the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts.

Not saying there wasn't bad shit going on there, but look at the number of abuse cases in the public school system and compare them to both the church and the scouts put together......... once you've done that, we can revisit just exactly who should be getting shut down.

In school situations (which would happen in private schools also) there have been prosecutions unlike with the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts who did all they could to simply cover it up.

Trust me, the school districts covered up a lot of shit.

Your argument seems to be that this wouldnt happen in a private school.

Yes it would.

No that's not what I was getting at.

Both the church and the scouts did a lot of good; the public school system has always been garbage. Why is it the first 2 should be destroyed but not the 3rd?
Especially when the public school system has far more abuse cases while also consistently failing at its primary function.

View attachment 510523

What is wrong with "government schools"?

Ask John Taylor Gatto.....



(And then we'll see if you're smart enough to understand the answer..... which I doubt)

 

[pknopp]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

So only people who believe what you believe and who look like you should be represented and free.

Basically.

All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.

Does this apply to gay people? Not likely.

How do you figure that?

Based upon the facts surrounding what I said.

None of the gay folks I know are complaining.

Well all 4 of them may be doing fine but we are discussing millions of others. Things are slowly changing but there are still those fighting against that in too far many numbers.

6.
My aunt and her wife, my uncle and his husband, my buddy R, and my former coworker M.

I know quite a few more than that, but not well enough to call them friends.

Anti-LGBTQ+ Group Says Amy Coney Barrett Could End Marriage Equality

So?

So for whatever lame reasons they can come up with people have no desire to leave others alone.

My uncle and his husband got married almost 30 years ago.

They didn't need anyone's permission and they sure as hell didn't ask.

They couldn't take the benefits allotted to straight couples.

30 years ago they wouldn't have had legal protections. If one got sick and in the hospital one wouldn't have had the same rights as a straight couple.

The constitution does not specify Hetero family units....BUT IT DOES SPECIFY progeny...... Got some Idea how that can work...Schmedley? Cuz if ya do I'm all in with the initial investment dude...or dudette or PRONOUN SPECIFIED or whatever the fuck.

JO

We have tens of thousands of kids needing adopted.

Gay couples can have kids in the same way some straight couples do. Surrogate, artificial insemination, etc.

Not without a female body being involved

Which does nothing to address my point.

I'm not talking about sexual preference or social convenience I'm telling you that adoption was not a part of the constitutional construct.

I care less. Kids still need adopted and the more available families the better.

Homosexuality Is the Gateway to Pedosexuality; and Neither One Is Actually a Sexuality at All

A molested generation loses the will to survive. This has been known for millennia. The laws against perversion are not religious; the leaders who wanted their nations to survive added that in order to give a more effective motivation to make people afraid to get seduced into such a destructive, addictive, and obsessive mental disorder.

Well then it's time to shut down the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts.

Not saying there wasn't bad shit going on there, but look at the number of abuse cases in the public school system and compare them to both the church and the scouts put together......... once you've done that, we can revisit just exactly who should be getting shut down.

In school situations (which would happen in private schools also) there have been prosecutions unlike with the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts who did all they could to simply cover it up.

Trust me, the school districts covered up a lot of shit.

Your argument seems to be that this wouldnt happen in a private school.

Yes it would.

No that's not what I was getting at.

Both the church and the scouts did a lot of good; the public school system has always been garbage. Why is it the first 2 should be destroyed but not the 3rd?

I didn't say either should be destroyed, That's you. Millions upon millions have got excellent educations. There is nowhere to go here if that fact escapes you. Doctors, engineers, et, etc etc all have public educations.

 

[pknopp]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

So only people who believe what you believe and who look like you should be represented and free.

Basically.

All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.

Does this apply to gay people? Not likely.

How do you figure that?

Based upon the facts surrounding what I said.

None of the gay folks I know are complaining.

Well all 4 of them may be doing fine but we are discussing millions of others. Things are slowly changing but there are still those fighting against that in too far many numbers.

6.
My aunt and her wife, my uncle and his husband, my buddy R, and my former coworker M.

I know quite a few more than that, but not well enough to call them friends.

Anti-LGBTQ+ Group Says Amy Coney Barrett Could End Marriage Equality

So?

So for whatever lame reasons they can come up with people have no desire to leave others alone.

My uncle and his husband got married almost 30 years ago.

They didn't need anyone's permission and they sure as hell didn't ask.

They couldn't take the benefits allotted to straight couples.

30 years ago they wouldn't have had legal protections. If one got sick and in the hospital one wouldn't have had the same rights as a straight couple.

The constitution does not specify Hetero family units....BUT IT DOES SPECIFY progeny...... Got some Idea how that can work...Schmedley? Cuz if ya do I'm all in with the initial investment dude...or dudette or PRONOUN SPECIFIED or whatever the fuck.

JO

We have tens of thousands of kids needing adopted.

Gay couples can have kids in the same way some straight couples do. Surrogate, artificial insemination, etc.

Not without a female body being involved

Which does nothing to address my point.

I'm not talking about sexual preference or social convenience I'm telling you that adoption was not a part of the constitutional construct.

I care less. Kids still need adopted and the more available families the better.

Homosexuality Is the Gateway to Pedosexuality; and Neither One Is Actually a Sexuality at All

A molested generation loses the will to survive. This has been known for millennia. The laws against perversion are not religious; the leaders who wanted their nations to survive added that in order to give a more effective motivation to make people afraid to get seduced into such a destructive, addictive, and obsessive mental disorder.

Well then it's time to shut down the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts.

Not saying there wasn't bad shit going on there, but look at the number of abuse cases in the public school system and compare them to both the church and the scouts put together......... once you've done that, we can revisit just exactly who should be getting shut down.

In school situations (which would happen in private schools also) there have been prosecutions unlike with the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts who did all they could to simply cover it up.

Trust me, the school districts covered up a lot of shit.

Your argument seems to be that this wouldnt happen in a private school.

Yes it would.

No that's not what I was getting at.

Both the church and the scouts did a lot of good; the public school system has always been garbage. Why is it the first 2 should be destroyed but not the 3rd?
Especially when the public school system has far more abuse cases while also consistently failing at its primary function.

View attachment 510523

What is wrong with "government schools"?

Ask John Taylor Gatto.....



(And then we'll see if you're smart enough to understand the answer..... which I doubt)

Millions upon millions can not homeschool. What a joke. Millions that could would teach the same thing as being taught today anyway, NOTHING stops you from homeschooling.

 

[freyasman]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

We knew all along that you dopes never loved America. You just had maladjusted and bastardized views of it that are no longer acceptable anywhere. So now you, of course, desire to blow it up and start anew. Fuck off. It will never happen. Either evolve to adjust yourself to the actual reality, STFU or get lost.

And if we don't?

What do you plan to do to us?

Nothing.
The better question is what are you planning?
You’re the malcontents who suggest violence is an option.

We're going to keep on living free, following our beliefs and hurting no one while we do it.
We're not going to fuck off and we're not going to get lost. We're not going to shut up either.

And like you said, you're going to do nothing.
Which I don't believe for one second..... you damn well intend to weaponize government agencies against us. You're not going to do anything directly, not yourself, because we both know you're a physical coward. That's why all of you are so gleeful about DHS and DOJ going after us for not bending the knee. As though using proxies to commit violence against people you don't like is somehow morally acceptable while doing it yourself is evil. (smh)


Maybe you should shut up and fuck off guy.
You're the bad guy here, not me.

Of course I personally would not “do anything”, whatever that means. I’m not a maladjusted moron.
The truth is that you don’t know me. Not in any way. You know what I choose to reveal. I don’t posture. I don’t threaten. I don’t suggest violence. That’s your game. You wear your insecurities proudly. As a result, the tantrums from the hardheaded malcontents like yourself tend to be misguided and dangerous. Your own behavior is why you draw the attention of govt agencies. It’s certainly nothing myself or any political party has done to you.

Lol, what a coward.

You bluster and arrogantly tell your betters to "evolve" and to " stfu" and when you're called on it, you crawfish and whimper like a petulant child.

You're the malcontent here; you're offended that people won't think, believe, or do what you want, as though you were anything but a simpering little bitch.

You bluster and arrogantly tell your betters to "evolve" and to " stfu" and when you're called on it, you crawfish and whimper like a petulant child

Your inability to grasp the point does not constitute “crawfishing” or bluster on my part. What you suggest will never happen. Good, decent Americans will never allow it. Just as with 1/6, any actors who choose to try will be run down and dealt with accordingly.
BTW, using antique slang you heard in cowboy movies does not make you appear tough. Only ridiculous.

I'm a native Texan, stupid.
And making vague threats using weasel words that these folks will face reprisals from agents of the state for daring to question obvious corruption, makes you look like a bootlicking little quisling.
"Dealt with accordingly" by who, exactly?
"Accordingly"? According to what exactly?

For what will they be "dealt with" and by who?


Why do people that simply want the rules to be followed and cheaters held to account for their corruption need to be "dealt with"?
Petitioning one's government for redress of wrongs done them is a right of all people, isn't it?


Clean the shit out of your dickhole, and state clearly who it is that's going to come and "deal with" us, what is their legitimate authority for doing so, and what exactly will this "dealing with accordingly" look like, and what wrong did we do that justifies our persecution and prosecution, legally, ethically, and morally.








Until you can answer that, shut your fucking mouth and go sit down somewhere while the adults talk.

 

[freyasman]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

So only people who believe what you believe and who look like you should be represented and free.

Basically.

All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.

Does this apply to gay people? Not likely.

How do you figure that?

Based upon the facts surrounding what I said.

None of the gay folks I know are complaining.

Well all 4 of them may be doing fine but we are discussing millions of others. Things are slowly changing but there are still those fighting against that in too far many numbers.

6.
My aunt and her wife, my uncle and his husband, my buddy R, and my former coworker M.

I know quite a few more than that, but not well enough to call them friends.

Anti-LGBTQ+ Group Says Amy Coney Barrett Could End Marriage Equality

So?

So for whatever lame reasons they can come up with people have no desire to leave others alone.

My uncle and his husband got married almost 30 years ago.

They didn't need anyone's permission and they sure as hell didn't ask.

They couldn't take the benefits allotted to straight couples.

30 years ago they wouldn't have had legal protections. If one got sick and in the hospital one wouldn't have had the same rights as a straight couple.

The constitution does not specify Hetero family units....BUT IT DOES SPECIFY progeny...... Got some Idea how that can work...Schmedley? Cuz if ya do I'm all in with the initial investment dude...or dudette or PRONOUN SPECIFIED or whatever the fuck.

JO

We have tens of thousands of kids needing adopted.

Gay couples can have kids in the same way some straight couples do. Surrogate, artificial insemination, etc.

Not without a female body being involved

Which does nothing to address my point.

I'm not talking about sexual preference or social convenience I'm telling you that adoption was not a part of the constitutional construct.

I care less. Kids still need adopted and the more available families the better.

Homosexuality Is the Gateway to Pedosexuality; and Neither One Is Actually a Sexuality at All

A molested generation loses the will to survive. This has been known for millennia. The laws against perversion are not religious; the leaders who wanted their nations to survive added that in order to give a more effective motivation to make people afraid to get seduced into such a destructive, addictive, and obsessive mental disorder.

Well then it's time to shut down the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts.

Not saying there wasn't bad shit going on there, but look at the number of abuse cases in the public school system and compare them to both the church and the scouts put together......... once you've done that, we can revisit just exactly who should be getting shut down.

In school situations (which would happen in private schools also) there have been prosecutions unlike with the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts who did all they could to simply cover it up.

Trust me, the school districts covered up a lot of shit.

Your argument seems to be that this wouldnt happen in a private school.

Yes it would.

No that's not what I was getting at.

Both the church and the scouts did a lot of good; the public school system has always been garbage. Why is it the first 2 should be destroyed but not the 3rd?

I didn't say either should be destroyed, That's you. Millions upon millions have got excellent educations. There is nowhere to go here if that fact escapes you. Doctors, engineers, et, etc etc all have public educations.

"Well then it's time to shut down the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts."

This was you, right?

 

[marvin martian]

A New Declaration Of Independence

A New Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are…

ncrenegade.com

From the link;

"A New Declaration Of Independence​

Posted on December 12, 2020 by Wes Rhinier

A New Declaration of Independence
When in the Course of human events which impelled our Founding Fathers to form a new Nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created free and equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, they determined to declare the reasons which inspired them to such a noble cause.
Because we hold to these same self-evident truths, we seek to adhere to these same timeless principles and to conduct our lives in a way which shows ourselves worthy of the precious legacy which has been handed down to us by such brave and honorable men.
WE are the worthy posterity of our noble Founding Fathers.
WE are the ones who have kept their Covenant and Constitution.
WE are the ones who recognize and revere the God of nature who has blessed us with the fruits of their labor.
All we have ever required of our fellow countrymen is to respect our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and, in turn, we have respected theirs.
Now our endowed Rights have been stolen by those especially entrusted for their protection.
Those who were created equal to us now think they have been elevated above us merely due to the office they have acquired solely through our good graces.
The Governments which have been instituted among us exclusively for the protection of our Rights, have become destructive of those very ends.
Our Safety and Happiness have been abused and usurped.
The principles upon which our Country was established are now distorted and derided, if they are remembered at all. As all of history shows, the pursuit of such a Government is designed to reduce us to absolute despotism.
Because we understand it is no light thing to alter, abolish or institute new Government, for far too long we have tried to content ourselves while evils were sufferable. But now there is no rule of law and our patience is viewed by our abusers only as consent to more abuse.
These are the Facts of the Tyranny we have endured at the hands of our elected Governors, Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, Police, and various County and City Officials, as well as through their unholy alliance with unelected Unions, Social Justice Organizations, and Bureaucratic Agencies and Social Media:

1. We are no longer Equal Citizens before the Law or Society. We are divided along non-existent intersectional fault lines and granted special Rights and Privileges based on perceived grievances or denied them according to the same superficial criteria.
2. We have no Right to the Fruit of our Labor. Our property can be seized and our livelihoods destroyed on the whim of a mob or the arbitrary designation of an elected official.
3. Our history is rewritten, eradicated, distorted and despised.
4. Our elected officials issue mandates and decrees with no rational scientific, economic, or legal basis. Moreover, they themselves do not adhere to the same rules they create and enforce under threat of violence.
5. Our law enforcement punishes the law abiding while cowering before the criminal elements of society. Our judicial system protects the guilty while crushing the innocent with all the power at its disposal.
6. We are censored, marginalized, and ostracized in the public and private sphere for not championing evil as good and good as evil.
7. There are no checks and balances within our political, judicial or economic systems. An unholy alliance between these three segments of society forms a bulwark which allows for no questioning or redress.
8. Our religious Liberty is trampled upon, our churches are locked down as “non-essential” and our deeply held convictions are banned as “hate speech.”
9. Our families endure never-ending attacks and an uncertain future from the constant upheaval of random interference and overreach. Our children are denied their education, normal interaction with relatives and friends, and every hallmark of childhood itself.
10. Our last check on Tyranny, which are free and fair elections, is nothing but a charade. Outcomes are predetermined, fraud is rampant, and there is no recourse.

Because of their insatiable thirst for power, ignorance of history, arrogant and incorrect assumptions, intolerance for freedom, and contempt for their own heritage, these Tyrants and traitors within seek to conform us to their own will and unachievable Utopian vision. But because of their rejection of the God of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, they can only create a Hell on earth. This is a vision we reject and an agenda with which we cannot and will not comply. Because our abusers will never relent, they must be ended. We understand what this will entail, what will be required of us, and the personal cost we may well have to pay, but Freedom is so dear and our Legacy so worthy, that we are ready for this great undertaking.
Knowing that our God is Faithful, our Cause is Just and our Liberty more precious than Life itself, we take up our Founder’s mantle and engrave on our hearts the words of their Great Seal: Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
Signed: WES RHINIER"











You have to wonder at the arrogance of the average government official that they refuse to see just how badly they are pissing off so many people.
It's not like they haven't been warned.

We knew all along that you dopes never loved America. You just had maladjusted and bastardized views of it that are no longer acceptable anywhere. So now you, of course, desire to blow it up and start anew. Fuck off. It will never happen. Either evolve to adjust yourself to the actual reality, STFU or get lost.

And if we don't?

What do you plan to do to us?

Nothing.
The better question is what are you planning?
You’re the malcontents who suggest violence is an option.

We're going to keep on living free, following our beliefs and hurting no one while we do it.
We're not going to fuck off and we're not going to get lost. We're not going to shut up either.

And like you said, you're going to do nothing.
Which I don't believe for one second..... you damn well intend to weaponize government agencies against us. You're not going to do anything directly, not yourself, because we both know you're a physical coward. That's why all of you are so gleeful about DHS and DOJ going after us for not bending the knee. As though using proxies to commit violence against people you don't like is somehow morally acceptable while doing it yourself is evil. (smh)


Maybe you should shut up and fuck off guy.
You're the bad guy here, not me.

Of course I personally would not “do anything”, whatever that means. I’m not a maladjusted moron.
The truth is that you don’t know me. Not in any way. You know what I choose to reveal. I don’t posture. I don’t threaten. I don’t suggest violence. That’s your game. You wear your insecurities proudly. As a result, the tantrums from the hardheaded malcontents like yourself tend to be misguided and dangerous. Your own behavior is why you draw the attention of govt agencies. It’s certainly nothing myself or any political party has done to you.

No, he pegged you pretty well. There are a lot of chickenshit statist Nazi wannabes like you out there, who would just LOVE to see the people you disagree with killed or dragged off and disappeared by the government, but you'd never do it yourself.