This is how much the big banks WON'T pay in taxes next year thanks to the #GOPTaxScam:

[Aldo Raine]

Hmmm, let's see here. Under your hero obummer, the only people who got bonuses were the wealthy bankers and stock market manipulators. Under trump hundreds of thousands of the rank and file workers are getting bonuses. Who to support......Hmmm...

You think those bonuses weren't already planned? No company makes the decision for that size expenditure at the last minute. The bonuses are nothing more than doing what they had already decided to do, but giving Trump credit as a thank you for massive tax breaks

Who cares if they were planned. Under your hero, the obummer, you were expected to take his measly 40 bucks and say thank you thank you master! Under trump hundreds of thousands of workers are getting bonuses they would have never seen under either your hero, the obummer, or his chosen successor, the shrilary.

It is amazing that you, who claim to care so much about the middle class attack them for getting this very real bonus. And that on TOP of the tax breaks they will be getting. Soooo... you have your hero, the obummers, "here's 40 bucks now piss off" vs the the trumps "here's an extra 1500 bucks that you don't have to pay, and if you work for a whole bunch of companies you get an additional 1000 bucks. Only the brain dead orifice of the progressive is that a worse deal than the 40 bucks that your hero, the obummer, was going to "give" you.

You really are all morons.

What a crock of shit. Do you really think the ones getting the large bonuses are the same ones who got just $40 last few years? You're dumber than I thought if you think the average working man got $1500 more this year than they did last year.

Don't worry, all that tax windfall money will be spent on higher premiums for medical insurance. Now that's MAGA and exactly how to stimulate the economy.

Obammy care premiums were predicted to skyrocket after Obammy left office.

Don't fool yourself these premium increases are by design as Obammy care was just a stepping stone to get what Democrats really want, single payer.

Dump did all he could to make sure it would happen as well. Thank him too.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Nate Lerner ✔ @NathanLerner
Nate Lerner (@NathanLerner) | Twitter
Obscene is the only word. Let the great unwashed eat their cake crumbs. But only for 8 years,
then the engorged Banks can feed them.

Are these not the very same banks the taxpayers rescued at great risk to OUR Treasury?
Ungrateful fucks.

Sounds like a winner paying less taxes. Even for a bank

-Geaux

Sounds like in Africa when one person wins, he gives all his supporters the top jobs, lavishes them with money and then stores lots of money in foreign banks for when he gets deposed. They call it corruption in Africa, why can't they say it in the USA?

I've never had an issue with a bank. Mail delivery, car repair, etc yes.... but banks?

Never had an issue

-Geaux

So you didn't have a problem when some banks who helped cause the economic crisis suddenly got given massive bailouts which they'll never pay back?

Yes, I had a problem with to big too fail. They should have let them crash in 08.

Yes, banks helped in offering loans to people who had no business signing the bottom line

I lay that on the consumer, not the bank.

-Geaux

But then what about the politicians who let that happen? That allow certain things that we know are bad?

How about Trump using such risky shit that hurts WORKING CLASS voters the most and benefits the rich the most again, after what we knew happened under Bush?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Nate Lerner ✔ @NathanLerner
Nate Lerner (@NathanLerner) | Twitter
Obscene is the only word. Let the great unwashed eat their cake crumbs. But only for 8 years,
then the engorged Banks can feed them.

Are these not the very same banks the taxpayers rescued at great risk to OUR Treasury?
Ungrateful fucks.

Sounds like a winner paying less taxes. Even for a bank

-Geaux

Sounds like in Africa when one person wins, he gives all his supporters the top jobs, lavishes them with money and then stores lots of money in foreign banks for when he gets deposed. They call it corruption in Africa, why can't they say it in the USA?

I've never had an issue with a bank. Mail delivery, car repair, etc yes.... but banks?

Never had an issue

-Geaux

So you didn't have a problem when some banks who helped cause the economic crisis suddenly got given massive bailouts which they'll never pay back?

He isn't smart enough to understand the crash.

A lot of people simply forget too easily, and don't really understand what the people in DC are up to.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Under your hero obummer, the only people who got bonuses were the wealthy bankers and stock market manipulators

How very "true"....correct?

2012......Obama Signs Bill to Extend Unemployment Benefits - The New York

2014....Obama pushes Congress to extend emergency unemployment benefits

And your counter to his claim to point out that the Obama administration provided people table scraps from government handouts instead of actual earned income through a job?

 

[Aldo Raine]

A better title for the OP's headline is "This is how much money the Banks get back that was never the fucking Governments to start with."
Of course I bet the OP wasn't bitching when Obama was giving taxpayer money funded bailouts away,

Did you bitch about Booosh the dumber handing out a bunch of money first?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Nate Lerner ✔ @NathanLerner
Nate Lerner (@NathanLerner) | Twitter
Obscene is the only word. Let the great unwashed eat their cake crumbs. But only for 8 years,
then the engorged Banks can feed them.

Are these not the very same banks the taxpayers rescued at great risk to OUR Treasury?
Ungrateful fucks.

Sounds like a winner paying less taxes. Even for a bank

-Geaux

Sounds like in Africa when one person wins, he gives all his supporters the top jobs, lavishes them with money and then stores lots of money in foreign banks for when he gets deposed. They call it corruption in Africa, why can't they say it in the USA?

I've never had an issue with a bank. Mail delivery, car repair, etc yes.... but banks?

Never had an issue

-Geaux

So you didn't have a problem when some banks who helped cause the economic crisis suddenly got given massive bailouts which they'll never pay back?

If you don't have anything, you're bitter and angry and are perfectly fine with band ripping off normal people.

You're going to have to explain a little more, I don't get your point.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You think those bonuses weren't already planned? No company makes the decision for that size expenditure at the last minute. The bonuses are nothing more than doing what they had already decided to do, but giving Trump credit as a thank you for massive tax breaks

Who cares if they were planned. Under your hero, the obummer, you were expected to take his measly 40 bucks and say thank you thank you master! Under trump hundreds of thousands of workers are getting bonuses they would have never seen under either your hero, the obummer, or his chosen successor, the shrilary.

It is amazing that you, who claim to care so much about the middle class attack them for getting this very real bonus. And that on TOP of the tax breaks they will be getting. Soooo... you have your hero, the obummers, "here's 40 bucks now piss off" vs the the trumps "here's an extra 1500 bucks that you don't have to pay, and if you work for a whole bunch of companies you get an additional 1000 bucks. Only the brain dead orifice of the progressive is that a worse deal than the 40 bucks that your hero, the obummer, was going to "give" you.

You really are all morons.

What a crock of shit. Do you really think the ones getting the large bonuses are the same ones who got just $40 last few years? You're dumber than I thought if you think the average working man got $1500 more this year than they did last year.

Don't worry, all that tax windfall money will be spent on higher premiums for medical insurance. Now that's MAGA and exactly how to stimulate the economy.

Obammy care premiums were predicted to skyrocket after Obammy left office.

Don't fool yourself these premium increases are by design as Obammy care was just a stepping stone to get what Democrats really want, single payer.

Dump did all he could to make sure it would happen as well. Thank him too.

Maybe maybe not. All he did was end the mandate. Prices were going up way before that. We don't know how much of any future price increases will be attributed to the revocation of the mandate yet

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

A better title for the OP's headline is "This is how much money the Banks get back that was never the fucking Governments to start with."
Of course I bet the OP wasn't bitching when Obama was giving taxpayer money funded bailouts away,

Did you bitch about Booosh the dumber handing out a bunch of money first?

Why yes I did. I don't believe in the to big to fail bullshit.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Who cares if they were planned. Under your hero, the obummer, you were expected to take his measly 40 bucks and say thank you thank you master! Under trump hundreds of thousands of workers are getting bonuses they would have never seen under either your hero, the obummer, or his chosen successor, the shrilary.

It is amazing that you, who claim to care so much about the middle class attack them for getting this very real bonus. And that on TOP of the tax breaks they will be getting. Soooo... you have your hero, the obummers, "here's 40 bucks now piss off" vs the the trumps "here's an extra 1500 bucks that you don't have to pay, and if you work for a whole bunch of companies you get an additional 1000 bucks. Only the brain dead orifice of the progressive is that a worse deal than the 40 bucks that your hero, the obummer, was going to "give" you.

You really are all morons.

What a crock of shit. Do you really think the ones getting the large bonuses are the same ones who got just $40 last few years? You're dumber than I thought if you think the average working man got $1500 more this year than they did last year.

Don't worry, all that tax windfall money will be spent on higher premiums for medical insurance. Now that's MAGA and exactly how to stimulate the economy.

Obammy care premiums were predicted to skyrocket after Obammy left office.

Don't fool yourself these premium increases are by design as Obammy care was just a stepping stone to get what Democrats really want, single payer.

Dump did all he could to make sure it would happen as well. Thank him too.

Maybe maybe not. All he did was end the mandate. Prices were going up way before that. We don't know how much of any future price increases will be attributed to the revocation of the mandate yet

And isn't that the beauty of it!

 

[Aldo Raine]

A better title for the OP's headline is "This is how much money the Banks get back that was never the fucking Governments to start with."
Of course I bet the OP wasn't bitching when Obama was giving taxpayer money funded bailouts away,

Did you bitch about Booosh the dumber handing out a bunch of money first?

Why yes I did. I don't believe in the to big to fail bullshit.

Good deal, I agree!

 

[nat4900]

from government handouts instead of actual earned income through a job?

Well, Taz, you SHOULD by now be a bit better educated from charts like these....but unfortunately your bias gets in the way..........Obama's provision of JOBS??? Here....

 

[Flopper]

A corporation does not feel guilt nor does it feel grateful. It's sole purpose is to turn a profit for it's stockholders who are mostly other corporations, trusts, and investment companies.

Those Christmas cards you get from them are nothing but public relations and a bit of advertising. Those millions of dollars in goods they give to hurricane victims are a tax write off, and a means of clearing the shelves of slow moving merchandise plus it create goodwill in the community and the nation which will hopefully turn into sales and new customers. And those bell ringers at Christmas time in front of the stores are there to put you in a giving mood; that is to buy, buy, buy.

Not true, you forgot that a corporation is formed to get funding in order to provide goods and services for a profit which benefits it's own workers as well as those participating in 401ks. Of course it is out to make a profit however if it doesn't, it goes away. Unlike socialist, government programs that although amazingly incompetent and costly almost never go away but grow more and more bureaucracy and take more tax dollars away from working people and tend to give it to those who are capable of contributing but don't.

No, I am quite aware of why corporations are formed and how they benefit society. My point is no one should have any illusions about large corporations. If there actions benefit their employees, their customers, or the public it is secondary to their main purpose, profits. The good or the evil they bring to society is incidental to their purpose.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nate Lerner ✔ @NathanLerner
Nate Lerner (@NathanLerner) | Twitter

This is how much the big banks WON'T pay in taxes next year thanks to the #GOPTaxScam:
Goldman Sachs $1 billion
Bank of America $3.5 billion
Citigroup $1.4 billion
JP Morgan $3.3 billion
Morgan Stanley $833 million
Wells Fargo $3.7 billion
PNC $704 million
US Bancorp $766 million

11:22 AM - Dec 23, 2017

Obscene is the only word. Let the great unwashed eat their cake crumbs. But only for 8 years,
then the engorged Banks can feed them.

Are these not the very same banks the taxpayers rescued at great risk to OUR Treasury?
Ungrateful fucks.

Sounds like a winner paying less taxes. Even for a bank

-Geaux

Sounds like in Africa when one person wins, he gives all his supporters the top jobs, lavishes them with money and then stores lots of money in foreign banks for when he gets deposed. They call it corruption in Africa, why can't they say it in the USA?

I've never had an issue with a bank. Mail delivery, car repair, etc yes.... but banks?

Never had an issue

-Geaux

So you didn't have a problem when some banks who helped cause the economic crisis suddenly got given massive bailouts which they'll never pay back?

Which banks didn't pay back?

 

[Leo123]

A corporation does not feel guilt nor does it feel grateful. It's sole purpose is to turn a profit for it's stockholders who are mostly other corporations, trusts, and investment companies.

Those Christmas cards you get from them are nothing but public relations and a bit of advertising. Those millions of dollars in goods they give to hurricane victims are a tax write off, and a means of clearing the shelves of slow moving merchandise plus it create goodwill in the community and the nation which will hopefully turn into sales and new customers. And those bell ringers at Christmas time in front of the stores are there to put you in a giving mood; that is to buy, buy, buy.

Not true, you forgot that a corporation is formed to get funding in order to provide goods and services for a profit which benefits it's own workers as well as those participating in 401ks. Of course it is out to make a profit however if it doesn't, it goes away. Unlike socialist, government programs that although amazingly incompetent and costly almost never go away but grow more and more bureaucracy and take more tax dollars away from working people and tend to give it to those who are capable of contributing but don't.

No, I am quite aware of why corporations are formed and how they benefit society. My point is no one should have any illusions about large corporations. If there actions benefit their employees, their customers, or the public it is secondary to their main purpose, profits. The good or the evil they bring to society is incidental to their purpose.

Yes, corporations are neither good nor evil. profits are an acknowledgement of worthy products and services. Those products and services that enough consumers find valuable to support a corporation's effort to produce them. Corporations are NOT created for anyone's benefit except the ones who create them and those who buy it's marketable stock. However,they buy goods and services from other businesses and support that market. They employ human resources and support individuals and their families. Many corporations offer stock that can be bought and invested in 401K retirement portfolios.

 

[Skull Pilot]

from government handouts instead of actual earned income through a job?

Well, Taz, you SHOULD by now be a bit better educated from charts like these....but unfortunately your bias gets in the way..........Obama's provision of JOBS??? Here....

you calling other people biased, now that's funny

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Nate Lerner ✔ @NathanLerner
Nate Lerner (@NathanLerner) | Twitter

This is how much the big banks WON'T pay in taxes next year thanks to the #GOPTaxScam:
Goldman Sachs $1 billion
Bank of America $3.5 billion
Citigroup $1.4 billion
JP Morgan $3.3 billion
Morgan Stanley $833 million
Wells Fargo $3.7 billion
PNC $704 million
US Bancorp $766 million

11:22 AM - Dec 23, 2017

Obscene is the only word. Let the great unwashed eat their cake crumbs. But only for 8 years,
then the engorged Banks can feed them.

Are these not the very same banks the taxpayers rescued at great risk to OUR Treasury?
Ungrateful fucks.

This thread oozes with envy. How glorious.

 

[bendog]

Nate Lerner ✔ @NathanLerner
Nate Lerner (@NathanLerner) | Twitter

This is how much the big banks WON'T pay in taxes next year thanks to the #GOPTaxScam:
Goldman Sachs $1 billion
Bank of America $3.5 billion
Citigroup $1.4 billion
JP Morgan $3.3 billion
Morgan Stanley $833 million
Wells Fargo $3.7 billion
PNC $704 million
US Bancorp $766 million

11:22 AM - Dec 23, 2017

Obscene is the only word. Let the great unwashed eat their cake crumbs. But only for 8 years,
then the engorged Banks can feed them.

Are these not the very same banks the taxpayers rescued at great risk to OUR Treasury?
Ungrateful fucks.

We may see 3% gnp growth, but if we do I think it'll be from corporate profits of banking and investment houses, and not from making shit in rural PA

 

[Flopper]

A corporation does not feel guilt nor does it feel grateful. It's sole purpose is to turn a profit for it's stockholders who are mostly other corporations, trusts, and investment companies.

Those Christmas cards you get from them are nothing but public relations and a bit of advertising. Those millions of dollars in goods they give to hurricane victims are a tax write off, and a means of clearing the shelves of slow moving merchandise plus it create goodwill in the community and the nation which will hopefully turn into sales and new customers. And those bell ringers at Christmas time in front of the stores are there to put you in a giving mood; that is to buy, buy, buy.

Not true, you forgot that a corporation is formed to get funding in order to provide goods and services for a profit which benefits it's own workers as well as those participating in 401ks. Of course it is out to make a profit however if it doesn't, it goes away. Unlike socialist, government programs that although amazingly incompetent and costly almost never go away but grow more and more bureaucracy and take more tax dollars away from working people and tend to give it to those who are capable of contributing but don't.

No, I am quite aware of why corporations are formed and how they benefit society. My point is no one should have any illusions about large corporations. If there actions benefit their employees, their customers, or the public it is secondary to their main purpose, profits. The good or the evil they bring to society is incidental to their purpose.

Yes, corporations are neither good nor evil. profits are an acknowledgement of worthy products and services. Those products and services that enough consumers find valuable to support a corporation's effort to produce them. Corporations are NOT created for anyone's benefit except the ones who create them and those who buy it's marketable stock. However,they buy goods and services from other businesses and support that market. They employ human resources and support individuals and their families. Many corporations offer stock that can be bought and invested in 401K retirement portfolios.

I agree large corporations provide a useful function in our society. However, one would have to be blind not see the harm they do.

The owners of small businesses locally managed and owned take an interest in their community and the environment, because they live there and their customers are their neighbors. Nationally and internationally, owned and managed businesses will pollute the air and water, buy off local officials, and do most anything needed to keep profits up and growing. The only thing to stop them is our laws and regulations.

 

[Leo123]

The owners of small businesses locally managed and owned take an interest in their community and the environment, because they live there and their customers are their neighbors. Nationally and internationally, owned and managed businesses will pollute the air and water, buy off local officials, and do most anything needed to keep profits up and growing. The only thing to stop them is our laws and regulations.

Nationally owned businesses who want to put a facility in a particular location typically hire local employees, have to significantly improve their particular location and general area with things like traffic studies, new streets, safety concerns, environmental impact studies, and typically must be allowed by the local City council, etc. Buy-offs are illegal however, Cities and unincorporated areas typically apply leverage to get the corporation to improve certain public facilities, roads, utilities, etc. for the benefit of the local area.

In fact, local Cities and districts have, in the past, been responsible for making a particular manufacturer's costs so high that they pull up roots and move out. Such is the case in Silicon Valley.

 

[Flopper]

The owners of small businesses locally managed and owned take an interest in their community and the environment, because they live there and their customers are their neighbors. Nationally and internationally, owned and managed businesses will pollute the air and water, buy off local officials, and do most anything needed to keep profits up and growing. The only thing to stop them is our laws and regulations.

Nationally owned businesses who want to put a facility in a particular location typically hire local employees, have to significantly improve their particular location and general area with things like traffic studies, new streets, safety concerns, environmental impact studies, and typically must be allowed by the local City council, etc. Buy-offs are illegal however, Cities and unincorporated areas typically apply leverage to get the corporation to improve certain public facilities, roads, utilities, etc. for the benefit of the local area.

In fact, local Cities and districts have, in the past, been responsible for making a particular manufacturer's costs so high that they pull up roots and move out. Such is the case in Silicon Valley.

Ideally, that is how it should work but it often doesn't. Of course bribes are illegal but that certainly doesn't stop it. So often the question is not is it illegal but is the risk worth the reward. Usually the top brass doesn't get involved, they leave that to local management.

When I was young I worked in a Winn Dixie grocery store. They had problems with refrigeration equipment in the store which would be really expensive to resolve. The manager told me that corporate wouldn't put up the money for new equipment and they expected him to resolve the problem. So he did by paying off the inspector. Eventually, he got caught and fired. He claimed that corporate knew exactly what he was doing which they did. After a major electrical problem caused by the equipment, the store had to close for several days and finally the equipment got replaced and the electrical problem got fixed. I've seen this same sort of crap in a consulting job I was on, top management pressuring their local management to cut cost any way they could, just don't get caught and meet your quota. I know all companies aren't like this, but plenty are.