This is how Donnie-baby royally screwed up...

[nat4900]

Donnie-baby crossed the line, and his troubles boil down to being involved in a CONSPIRACY to commit ELECTION FRAUD...that is the "legal term" for what he did.....

Donnie quickly lawyer-ed up as he should...he is in deep, DEEP shit and daddy may have to issue a pardon......

But, the really fun part is that Donnie also inculpated Manafort and Kushner.......

Orange suits for everyone would be apropos, don't you think?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Donnie-baby crossed the line, and his troubles boil down to being involved in a CONSPIRACY to commit ELECTION FRAUD...that is the "legal term" for what he did.....

Donnie quickly lawyer-ed up as he should...he is in deep, DEEP shit and daddy may have to issue a pardon......

But, the really fun part is that Donnie also inculpated Manafort and Kushner.......

Orange suits for everyone would be apropos, don't you think?

Take a nap, Jake

 

[nat4900]

Take a nap, Jake

Thanks for the bump......the only possible worth of having you around......LOL

 

[OldLady]

SSDD - same shit different day.

Snowflakes rant, rave, make false accusations, have no evidence, get discredited, get mad, personally attack others while denying reality...

No one is ranting or raving. Your boy is in trouble. He may not be criminally liable, but these emails show the true colors of the Trump campaign and the Trumps, in general.
Not good information for the investigators to know.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Donnie turned those emails over to his Twitter account because the NYT said they would if he didn't.

HURRAY FOR THE 'FAKE MEDIA'!!!!

New York Times story triggered the release of Trump Jr. emails

Take a nap, Jake

Thanks for the bump......the only possible worth of having you around......LOL

That's why Stats pays me $24.95 per post

 

[regent]

Does Trump have to order the pardons be printed first? If so I wonder how many he should order.

 

[Harry Dresden]

didnt ted Kennedy seek Russian help to try and do some shit to Reagan?.....just asking.....

 

[nat4900]

didnt ted Kennedy seek Russian help to try and do some shit to Reagan?.....just asking.....

According to a Reagan biographer, YES....Kennedy made overtures to Andropov back in the early 1980s..........

Kennedy, if he did that, was 100% WRONG.......but, does that "excuse" the Trumpster team???

Is Trump's defense...."there have been other frauds before me"??

 

[bripat9643]

Every single time another Trump disaster is brought up, you and your kind can never defend him

There's nothing to defend.

Tell that to the prosecutor. You sure didn't have anything like this in the Obama administration.

How do you know? Would Obama's adoring fake news have ever reported it?

 

[bripat9643]

By his own admission (at least "version 2") Donnie-baby stated that he agreed to meet with the foreign lawyer to get "dirt"' on Clinton.......and, of course, the juciness of the possibility of dirt had Donnie bring along to the meeting Manafort and Kushner....

Now, it does NOT matter if the lawyer had dirt or not...what matters is the ATTEMPT to get the dirt from a foreign source.....

here......This IS the LAW.....and Donnie-baby fucked up......

11 CFR 110.20 - Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).


(b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

you'd have a lot more credibility if you didn't do this every single time ANYTHING "bad trump" was released.

as it stands, this is just take 38,328 of the same old song from you and you've been wrong 38,327 times so i don't see that changing here.

No, this is very different. It is the first real scandalous stuff I've read about the Trump campaign since Access Hollywood tape came out.
It's very different, Iceberg. Jr., Kushner and Manafort may not have done anything criminal, but boy have they just announced to the world that they were aware the Russians, at the highest levels, were "assisting" the campaign and that they were more than willing to play ball with Russia.
His supporters can shrug and say fine, but I say this one is a big deal. Not everything needs to lead to prison in order to be important.
No more questions about "naivete" being possible.

and how is this different than obama knowing months before the election was over but no liberal after trump for this seems to care what obama knew and did nothing.

do you think if hillary won we'd ever even know russia was being russia?

and again - hard for me to get mad at this when we do it all the time to others. seems overly selective in rage to me.

Once again this isn't about Obama, its all about the Trump cabal.

Wrong. It's all about your inability to cope with Hillary losing.

 

[bripat9643]

Where does it say talking to the campaign counts as a donation?

Under no condition should a member of a campaign ever attempt to speak to a foreign government about that campaign

You mean like this?

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire


.

This aint about Hillary, partner.

Excuse me dipshit, didn't you say this?

"Under no condition should a member of a campaign ever attempt to speak to a foreign government about that campaign"

Seems like a pretty generic statement to me. Maybe in your hypocritical mind it only applies to people you don't like.


.

Its the law, honey bunch

No it's not, dumbass.

 

[bripat9643]

By his own admission (at least "version 2") Donnie-baby stated that he agreed to meet with the foreign lawyer to get "dirt"' on Clinton.......and, of course, the juciness of the possibility of dirt had Donnie bring along to the meeting Manafort and Kushner....

Now, it does NOT matter if the lawyer had dirt or not...what matters is the ATTEMPT to get the dirt from a foreign source.....

here......This IS the LAW.....and Donnie-baby fucked up......

11 CFR 110.20 - Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).


(b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

True. The FBI doesn't wait for a guy to commit a terrorist plot. If the terrorist meets with the undercover FBI agent and tells him that he wants to kill people, the FBI guy can arrest him.

If the terrorists use Jr's argument, they didn't do anything wrong because the guy they met wasn't a fellow terrorist, he was an undercover FBI agent. No use to them so they got out of there. Called the meeting off.

Wait, you're saying an undercover FBI agent attended the meeting?

 

[depotoo]

How many times has the left used that excuse? I'd be rich!

didnt ted Kennedy seek Russian help to try and do some shit to Reagan?.....just asking.....

According to a Reagan biographer, YES....Kennedy made overtures to Andropov back in the early 1980s..........

Kennedy, if he did that, was 100% WRONG.......but, does that "excuse" the Trumpster team???

Is Trump's defense...."there have been other frauds before me"??

 

[Harry Dresden]

didnt ted Kennedy seek Russian help to try and do some shit to Reagan?.....just asking.....

According to a Reagan biographer, YES....Kennedy made overtures to Andropov back in the early 1980s..........

Kennedy, if he did that, was 100% WRONG.......but, does that "excuse" the Trumpster team???

Is Trump's defense...."there have been other frauds before me"??

digging up dirt on people has been going on since Michael dug up shit on Lucifer and got him expelled from heaven.....just sayin.........

 

[bripat9643]

You should read your own posts, at least once in a while, Jake. What "other thing of value" are you imagining

Like sending out thousands of fake news stories that were all designed to hurt Hillary. The Trumps promised Russia "favors" if they helped them win.

1,000 Paid Russian Trolls Spread Fake News On Hillary Clinton, Senate Intelligence Heads Told | HuffPost

Why else would 1000 russians bother?

The truth hurt Hillary the most

Nah. The Comey NON News was the thing that hurt the most. Not to mention the 24 years you guys bashed the Clintons

But she didn't campaign enough in PA, MI and WI.

Plus it turns out she's not that likable. Neither is Trump but he's got name recognition and he ran a smart campaign. He pretended to be the change candidate when in reality he's the biggest snake in the swamp.

Comey's non-news was: Sure Hillary's a criminal but she didn't mean to be a criminal

And Trump didn't mean to obstruct justice. He's just new to all this. Right?

House Speaker Paul Ryan sought Thursday to explain President Donald Trump's asking then-FBI Director James Comey to drop an investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn, saying he was new at the job and did not understand protocols.

"Of course there needs to be a degree of independence between (the Justice Department), FBI and the White House, and a line of communications established," Ryan said during his news conference, which occurred at the same time as Comey was testifying across Capitol Hill before the Senate intelligence committee..
"The President's new at this. He's new to government. So, he probably wasn't steeped in the long-running protocols that establish the relationships between DOJ, FBI and White Houses. He's just new to this."


Pushed further by CNN, Ryan said, "I'm not saying it's an acceptable excuse. It's just my observation."
"He's new at government, and so therefore I think that he -- he is learning as he goes," Ryan said.
Ryan also argued that Comey's opening statement revealed why the President was frustrated with the ongoing investigation into Russia.
RELATED: James Comey has called Donald Trump a liar 5 times today. The White House says he isn't.
"I think people now realize why the President is so frustrated. When the FBI Director tells him on three different occasions that he's not under investigation, yet the speculation swirls around the political system that he is, that's frustrating," Ryan said.
Ryan declined to comment on whether he thought it was appropriate for Trump to ask Comey to drop the investigation into Flynn.
"I'm not going to comment on these things, because these are all apart of these ongoing investigations and I'm not gonna prejudge this stuff, because what I don't want to do is -- in the middle of a House intelligence committee investigation, a Senate intelligence committee investigation, and now an independent counsel -- is to speculate on the day-to-day intrigue of all of these issues," Ryan said.

The obstruction accusation is already dead. CNN doesn't even talk about it anymore.

 

[sealybobo]

Nah. The Comey NON News was the thing that hurt the most. Not to mention the 24 years you guys bashed the Clintons

But she didn't campaign enough in PA, MI and WI.

Plus it turns out she's not that likable. Neither is Trump but he's got name recognition and he ran a smart campaign. He pretended to be the change candidate when in reality he's the biggest snake in the swamp.

Comey's non-news was: Sure Hillary's a criminal but she didn't mean to be a criminal

And Trump didn't mean to obstruct justice. He's just new to all this. Right?

House Speaker Paul Ryan sought Thursday to explain President Donald Trump's asking then-FBI Director James Comey to drop an investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn, saying he was new at the job and did not understand protocols.

"Of course there needs to be a degree of independence between (the Justice Department), FBI and the White House, and a line of communications established," Ryan said during his news conference, which occurred at the same time as Comey was testifying across Capitol Hill before the Senate intelligence committee..
"The President's new at this. He's new to government. So, he probably wasn't steeped in the long-running protocols that establish the relationships between DOJ, FBI and White Houses. He's just new to this."


Pushed further by CNN, Ryan said, "I'm not saying it's an acceptable excuse. It's just my observation."
"He's new at government, and so therefore I think that he -- he is learning as he goes," Ryan said.
Ryan also argued that Comey's opening statement revealed why the President was frustrated with the ongoing investigation into Russia.
RELATED: James Comey has called Donald Trump a liar 5 times today. The White House says he isn't.
"I think people now realize why the President is so frustrated. When the FBI Director tells him on three different occasions that he's not under investigation, yet the speculation swirls around the political system that he is, that's frustrating," Ryan said.
Ryan declined to comment on whether he thought it was appropriate for Trump to ask Comey to drop the investigation into Flynn.
"I'm not going to comment on these things, because these are all apart of these ongoing investigations and I'm not gonna prejudge this stuff, because what I don't want to do is -- in the middle of a House intelligence committee investigation, a Senate intelligence committee investigation, and now an independent counsel -- is to speculate on the day-to-day intrigue of all of these issues," Ryan said.

Trump didn't obstruct justice....you are thinking of Loretta Lynch.

It was inappropriate for Bill to corner her on an airplane and it was inappropriate when Comey showed up to a dinner with Trump and he thought there would be others there and it was just the two of them.

Then slimeball liar Trump suggests he taped their dinner?

federal and many state laws do not permit you to surreptitiously place a bug or recording device on a person or telephone, in a home, office or restaurant to secretly record a conversation between two people who have not consented.

'Corner her on an airplane'?

He found out where she was, diverted his plane, landed, they kicked everyone off her jet, and they spent 20 minutes alone...and she could not have prevented the meeting is what you're saying....

You are such a lying / delusional f*ing snowflake!

What are you suggesting happened? I suspect she looked at bill like Comey looked at Trump. How's the family? Sure bill tried to meddle but what do you think happened you nut?

What we now know is you're a fool. The Trump's colluded with Russia. Now do your spin. Go

 

[sealybobo]

Like sending out thousands of fake news stories that were all designed to hurt Hillary. The Trumps promised Russia "favors" if they helped them win.

1,000 Paid Russian Trolls Spread Fake News On Hillary Clinton, Senate Intelligence Heads Told | HuffPost

Why else would 1000 russians bother?

The truth hurt Hillary the most

Nah. The Comey NON News was the thing that hurt the most. Not to mention the 24 years you guys bashed the Clintons

But she didn't campaign enough in PA, MI and WI.

Plus it turns out she's not that likable. Neither is Trump but he's got name recognition and he ran a smart campaign. He pretended to be the change candidate when in reality he's the biggest snake in the swamp.

Comey's non-news was: Sure Hillary's a criminal but she didn't mean to be a criminal

And Trump didn't mean to obstruct justice. He's just new to all this. Right?

House Speaker Paul Ryan sought Thursday to explain President Donald Trump's asking then-FBI Director James Comey to drop an investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn, saying he was new at the job and did not understand protocols.

"Of course there needs to be a degree of independence between (the Justice Department), FBI and the White House, and a line of communications established," Ryan said during his news conference, which occurred at the same time as Comey was testifying across Capitol Hill before the Senate intelligence committee..
"The President's new at this. He's new to government. So, he probably wasn't steeped in the long-running protocols that establish the relationships between DOJ, FBI and White Houses. He's just new to this."


Pushed further by CNN, Ryan said, "I'm not saying it's an acceptable excuse. It's just my observation."
"He's new at government, and so therefore I think that he -- he is learning as he goes," Ryan said.
Ryan also argued that Comey's opening statement revealed why the President was frustrated with the ongoing investigation into Russia.
RELATED: James Comey has called Donald Trump a liar 5 times today. The White House says he isn't.
"I think people now realize why the President is so frustrated. When the FBI Director tells him on three different occasions that he's not under investigation, yet the speculation swirls around the political system that he is, that's frustrating," Ryan said.
Ryan declined to comment on whether he thought it was appropriate for Trump to ask Comey to drop the investigation into Flynn.
"I'm not going to comment on these things, because these are all apart of these ongoing investigations and I'm not gonna prejudge this stuff, because what I don't want to do is -- in the middle of a House intelligence committee investigation, a Senate intelligence committee investigation, and now an independent counsel -- is to speculate on the day-to-day intrigue of all of these issues," Ryan said.

The obstruction accusation is already dead. CNN doesn't even talk about it anymore.

No the corporate media doesn't.

They'll stop talking about Russia too soon. Nothing will happen to jr. Lock him up!

 

[brummelben]

Under no condition should a member of a campaign ever attempt to speak to a foreign government about that campaign

You mean like this?

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire


.

This aint about Hillary, partner.

Excuse me dipshit, didn't you say this?

"Under no condition should a member of a campaign ever attempt to speak to a foreign government about that campaign"

Seems like a pretty generic statement to me. Maybe in your hypocritical mind it only applies to people you don't like.


.

Its the law, honey bunch

No it's not, dumbass.

Can you show me exactly where I am wrong, or are you FOS, as usual sweetie pie?

 

[sealybobo]

didnt ted Kennedy seek Russian help to try and do some shit to Reagan?.....just asking.....

According to a Reagan biographer, YES....Kennedy made overtures to Andropov back in the early 1980s..........

Kennedy, if he did that, was 100% WRONG.......but, does that "excuse" the Trumpster team???

Is Trump's defense...."there have been other frauds before me"??

digging up dirt on people has been going on since Michael dug up shit on Lucifer and got him expelled from heaven.....just sayin.........

They broke the law but you partisan hacks don't care. We knew it. A lot of people do. This is good for Democrats. Take back the government from treasonist trump

 

[brummelben]

By his own admission (at least "version 2") Donnie-baby stated that he agreed to meet with the foreign lawyer to get "dirt"' on Clinton.......and, of course, the juciness of the possibility of dirt had Donnie bring along to the meeting Manafort and Kushner....

Now, it does NOT matter if the lawyer had dirt or not...what matters is the ATTEMPT to get the dirt from a foreign source.....

here......This IS the LAW.....and Donnie-baby fucked up......

11 CFR 110.20 - Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).


(b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

you'd have a lot more credibility if you didn't do this every single time ANYTHING "bad trump" was released.

as it stands, this is just take 38,328 of the same old song from you and you've been wrong 38,327 times so i don't see that changing here.

No, this is very different. It is the first real scandalous stuff I've read about the Trump campaign since Access Hollywood tape came out.
It's very different, Iceberg. Jr., Kushner and Manafort may not have done anything criminal, but boy have they just announced to the world that they were aware the Russians, at the highest levels, were "assisting" the campaign and that they were more than willing to play ball with Russia.
His supporters can shrug and say fine, but I say this one is a big deal. Not everything needs to lead to prison in order to be important.
No more questions about "naivete" being possible.

and how is this different than obama knowing months before the election was over but no liberal after trump for this seems to care what obama knew and did nothing.

do you think if hillary won we'd ever even know russia was being russia?

and again - hard for me to get mad at this when we do it all the time to others. seems overly selective in rage to me.

Once again this isn't about Obama, its all about the Trump cabal.

Wrong. It's all about your inability to cope with Hillary losing.

Nothing in the least to do with Hillary, no matter how hard you try to change the subject. Its all about this corrupt, incompetent, and lying administration