This Is How Conservatives Support Our Troops

[BertramN]

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Trump’s supporters accept everything that idiot says as the absolute truth, that he knows all there is to know, and understands all things. (Of course, as we’ve seen on these message boards, the vast majority of right-wingers also believe themselves to be experts in all fields, just like Trump.)



In Herndon, Virginia, at a question and answer session hosted by Retired American Warriors, “The Donald”, declared in a room full of veterans attending the event, "When people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe what the people in this room have seen many times over, and you're strong and you can handle it, but a lot of people can't handle it." The insufferable tumor with the bad comb-over said this knowing that twenty-two veterans commit suicide each day.



This is another example of the support conservatives give to U.S. troops who fight in the needless wars Republicans want for their cronies in the defense industry to increase their profits.



So let’s hear the right-wingers responses to this OP, as they cheer for Trump’s stupid evaluation of those who actually made sacrifices for the U.S. Men and women who, unlike Trump, actually experienced war and saw the carnage of human bodies being blown apart. It is expected his dimwitted supporters will see his opinion concerning the men and women with PTSD as brilliant.



Go ahead righties, tell us what a great guy Donald Trump is, and how YOU and HE support the troops. (Note, how any other group of people do, or do NOT support the troops is irrelevant, so there is no reason to mention them.)



Donald Trump sparks fury with comment on veterans' suicide





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[tinydancer]

So how is he insulting veterans by stating that some veterans have PTSD?

 

[tinydancer]

And as far as conservatives go supporting the troops and the veterans every budget has seen an increase for the VA. The problem is though the left wingers who run it keep giving themselves mega bonuses while skimping out on services provided.

 

[tinydancer]

I just read the exact quote. Man oh man you people are such fucking liars. He was addressing the plain and simple fact that PTSD is real and that many need treatment that is not being given.

Liar. And AOL? Really?

 

[BertramN]

Criticizing veterans with PTSD by implying they are weak is just like Trump's
ridiculing the handicapped. Trumpbots, like yourself, lack empathy and compassion, so Trump, who is as cold, greedy, and unfeeling as most conservatives will, of course, his minions defend his verbal attacks on the people and groups hated by the Christian right. (Face it, all you Trump supporters, regardless of religious preference, hold the same hatreds as the Christian right, and they have many.)

It has been apparent for years that conservatives want the elderly and disabled who depend on Social Security and Medicare to crawl off and die. It is the same for the poor, the working poor, the homeless, and all other who offend the self-righteous and self-serving sensibilities right-wingers hold dear.

Without the many segments of our society you miserable people need as targets for your burning hatred, you would soon turn on each other, because there are always those who will be too "liberal" to suit your standards. The world conservatives want to create would be a sad excuse for a society. I use the word society, because "civilization" would be grossly inaccurate.

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[BertramN]

In an Op Ed the mother of a dead veteran pointed out the difference between veterans and Donald Trump. How the troops are and veterans did voluntarily put themselves in danger to make the world a better place.

The article is at the link below where Stephanie Keegan asks Trump, "What have you ever done to make the world better?"

Trump and his idiot supporters will tell her he has made millions-of-dollars, because in their alternate reality the rich getting richer and richer is what makes the sun rise in the east.

Mom of dead vet who had PTSD has message for Donald Trump


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[blackhawk]

Yet again a moronic liberal that can't separate reality from their fantasy world.

 

[PredFan]

Liberals lying about Trump and pretending to support veterans. Just another day in politics.

 

[martybegan]

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Trump’s supporters accept everything that idiot says as the absolute truth, that he knows all there is to know, and understands all things. (Of course, as we’ve seen on these message boards, the vast majority of right-wingers also believe themselves to be experts in all fields, just like Trump.)



In Herndon, Virginia, at a question and answer session hosted by Retired American Warriors, “The Donald”, declared in a room full of veterans attending the event, "When people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe what the people in this room have seen many times over, and you're strong and you can handle it, but a lot of people can't handle it." The insufferable tumor with the bad comb-over said this knowing that twenty-two veterans commit suicide each day.



This is another example of the support conservatives give to U.S. troops who fight in the needless wars Republicans want for their cronies in the defense industry to increase their profits.



So let’s hear the right-wingers responses to this OP, as they cheer for Trump’s stupid evaluation of those who actually made sacrifices for the U.S. Men and women who, unlike Trump, actually experienced war and saw the carnage of human bodies being blown apart. It is expected his dimwitted supporters will see his opinion concerning the men and women with PTSD as brilliant.



Go ahead righties, tell us what a great guy Donald Trump is, and how YOU and HE support the troops. (Note, how any other group of people do, or do NOT support the troops is irrelevant, so there is no reason to mention them.)



Donald Trump sparks fury with comment on veterans' suicide





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Even Snopes is saying Trump's comment was taken out of context.

Donald Trump Didn't Say Vets with PTSD Are 'Weak'

Most critical reporting on the event elided Trump's key contextual assertion that "we're losing so many great people that can be taken care of if they have proper care," So while it's true Trump described present veterans as "strong" during the town hall event, he didn't also describe veterans dealing with mental health issues as weak or unfit.

 

[bodecea]

So how is he insulting veterans by stating that some veterans have PTSD?

It's certainly not as bad as it could be...he could be saying "Fuck You" to the families of our Vets.....like some RWrs do.

 

[jknowgood]

So how is he insulting veterans by stating that some veterans have PTSD?

It's certainly not as bad as it could be...he could be saying "Fuck You" to the families of our Vets.....like some RWrs do.

You do realize there has been a Democrat president for the past eight years? Obama even wanted them paying for their own health insurance. You do realize that, right?

 

[jknowgood]

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Trump’s supporters accept everything that idiot says as the absolute truth, that he knows all there is to know, and understands all things. (Of course, as we’ve seen on these message boards, the vast majority of right-wingers also believe themselves to be experts in all fields, just like Trump.)



In Herndon, Virginia, at a question and answer session hosted by Retired American Warriors, “The Donald”, declared in a room full of veterans attending the event, "When people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe what the people in this room have seen many times over, and you're strong and you can handle it, but a lot of people can't handle it." The insufferable tumor with the bad comb-over said this knowing that twenty-two veterans commit suicide each day.



This is another example of the support conservatives give to U.S. troops who fight in the needless wars Republicans want for their cronies in the defense industry to increase their profits.



So let’s hear the right-wingers responses to this OP, as they cheer for Trump’s stupid evaluation of those who actually made sacrifices for the U.S. Men and women who, unlike Trump, actually experienced war and saw the carnage of human bodies being blown apart. It is expected his dimwitted supporters will see his opinion concerning the men and women with PTSD as brilliant.



Go ahead righties, tell us what a great guy Donald Trump is, and how YOU and HE support the troops. (Note, how any other group of people do, or do NOT support the troops is irrelevant, so there is no reason to mention them.)



Donald Trump sparks fury with comment on veterans' suicide





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Oh, but now we have the Obama wars. So what do you think of your messiah now?

 

[PredFan]

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Trump’s supporters accept everything that idiot says as the absolute truth, that he knows all there is to know, and understands all things. (Of course, as we’ve seen on these message boards, the vast majority of right-wingers also believe themselves to be experts in all fields, just like Trump.)



In Herndon, Virginia, at a question and answer session hosted by Retired American Warriors, “The Donald”, declared in a room full of veterans attending the event, "When people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe what the people in this room have seen many times over, and you're strong and you can handle it, but a lot of people can't handle it." The insufferable tumor with the bad comb-over said this knowing that twenty-two veterans commit suicide each day.



This is another example of the support conservatives give to U.S. troops who fight in the needless wars Republicans want for their cronies in the defense industry to increase their profits.



So let’s hear the right-wingers responses to this OP, as they cheer for Trump’s stupid evaluation of those who actually made sacrifices for the U.S. Men and women who, unlike Trump, actually experienced war and saw the carnage of human bodies being blown apart. It is expected his dimwitted supporters will see his opinion concerning the men and women with PTSD as brilliant.



Go ahead righties, tell us what a great guy Donald Trump is, and how YOU and HE support the troops. (Note, how any other group of people do, or do NOT support the troops is irrelevant, so there is no reason to mention them.)



Donald Trump sparks fury with comment on veterans' suicide





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Even Snopes is saying Trump's comment was taken out of context.

Donald Trump Didn't Say Vets with PTSD Are 'Weak'

Most critical reporting on the event elided Trump's key contextual assertion that "we're losing so many great people that can be taken care of if they have proper care," So while it's true Trump described present veterans as "strong" during the town hall event, he didn't also describe veterans dealing with mental health issues as weak or unfit.

[\IDIOT THREAD]

 

[Iceweasel]

The word libtard was coined for a reason. They do not understand words, they simply react to impressions they get when they hear words that trigger a response.

 

[tinydancer]

So how is he insulting veterans by stating that some veterans have PTSD?

It's certainly not as bad as it could be...he could be saying "Fuck You" to the families of our Vets.....like some RWrs do.

" I respect only those that put on the uniform." If a family member like Khan is an asshole, no one is obligated to respect the mother trucker just because they had a son or daughter that served.

 

[tinydancer]

Now even Snopes that leans left these days big time came out swinging to defend Trump.


Retort the Troops
GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump did not say veterans suffering from PTSD are "weak," "unfit," and "can't handle" military service.

Kim LaCapria
Oct 04, 2016

Claim: Donald Trump said veterans suffering from PTSD are "weak," "unfit," and "can't handle" military service.

mostly false
Example: [Collected via Twitter, October 2016]
Today 10-3-16 Trump denigrates veterans with PTSD "can't handle it" #mtpol https://t.co/pWSZn53zaU — Tom Glover (@BigSkyDem) October 4, 2016
Trump says veterans with PTSD are not “strong” and “can’t handle it.” This is a candidate who had a meltdown after losing a debate.
— Donna Brazile (@donnabrazile) October 4, 2016
Origin:After a Retired American Warriors town hall campaign event was held on 3 October 2016 in Herndon, Virginia, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump was widely accused of insultingly asserting that veterans who suffer from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) are weak.
Occupy Democrats was one of many political outlets claiming Trump had called veterans with PTSD weak and had insulted those who required mental health services after serving, and that the news media largely ignored hist comments:
In an exchange missed by most of the media, Trump insulted all of our veterans who have suffered psychological trauma during their overseas tours by saying that only weak soldiers suffer from PTSD, and that therefore our “strong veterans” don’t require psychological counseling when they return home.
The Washington Post also weighed in, framing Trump's comments as a "gaffe":
There will be plenty of quibbling in the hours ahead, but Donald Trump clearly just created a new batch of problems for himself with his comments [on 3 October 2016], in which he suggested that veterans dealing with mental health problems aren't "strong" and "can't handle it."
The media clearly hadn't "missed" the exchange, as numerous news outlets covered&nbspthe controversy.
The claim about what Trump said was one bolstered largely by its backlash, but much of the audience hadn't read or watched video of the town hall event in its entirety to determine whether Trump had really described veterans with PTSD as "weak."
Former congressman and retired U.S. Army Lt. Colonel&nbspAllen West&nbspwas present at the event and strongly disputed media accounts of the exchange, which began with a question from a Retired American Warriors town hall attendee:
Good morning Mr. Trump. As you mentioned there is a tragic suicide epidemic among our veterans, among our military and their families. While the military and the V.A. are working on the problem, their efforts continue to fall short. There are a number of faith-based programs outside the DOD and the V.A., that are continuing to be successful in stopping suicide and divorce rates.
Spiritual fitness works on these types of problems. The government is not taking advantage of these programs and services. So my question for you is, when you become president, will you support and fund a more holistic approach to solve the problems and issues of veteran suicide, PTSD, TBI and other related military mental and behavioral health issues and will you take steps to restore the historic role of our Chaplains and the importance of spiritual fitness and spiritual resiliency programs?
Trump's complete response focused largely on committing to an increase in veterans' services, not on deriding disabled veterans. He indeed flattered "folks in this room" for being "strong," but he also expressed empathy at length for those military personnel who had experienced "horror stories" which "nobody would believe":
Yes I would. Look we need that so badly and when you ... when you talk about the mental health problems, when people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over and you’re strong and you can handle it. But a lot of people can’t handle it. And they see horror stories. They see events that you couldn’t see in a movie, nobody would believe it.
Now we need a mental health help and medical. And it’s one of the things that I think is least addressed and is one of the things that — like your question — one of the things that I hear the most about when I go around and talk to the veterans. So we’re going to have a very, very robust, level of performance having to do with mental health. We are losing so many great people that can be taken care of if they have proper care.
You know when you hear the 22 suicides a day it’s a big part of your question. But when you hear the 22 suicides a day that should never be. That should never be. So we’re going to be addressing that very strongly and the whole mental health issue is going to be a very important issue when I take over and the V.A. is going to be fixed in so many ways but that’s going to be one of the ways we’re going to help.
And that’s in many respects going to be the number one thing we have to do. Because I think it’s really been left behind. OK? Thank you very much.
"Trump's remarks (at approximately the 0:55 minute mark) were not derisive: he maintained that veterans' mental health care was one of the issues he felt was "least addressed," and he held that he commonly received similar questions when meeting with service members.

Most critical reporting on the event elided Trump's key contextual assertion that "we're losing so many great people that can be taken care of if they have proper care," So while it's true Trump described present veterans as "strong" during the town hall event, he didn't also describe veterans dealing with mental health issues as weak or unfit."

Originally published: 04 October 2016

Donald Trump Didn't Say Vets with PTSD Are 'Weak'

 

[Windship]

The 25 Most Vicious Iraq War Profiteers

 

[tinydancer]

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Trump’s supporters accept everything that idiot says as the absolute truth, that he knows all there is to know, and understands all things. (Of course, as we’ve seen on these message boards, the vast majority of right-wingers also believe themselves to be experts in all fields, just like Trump.)



In Herndon, Virginia, at a question and answer session hosted by Retired American Warriors, “The Donald”, declared in a room full of veterans attending the event, "When people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe what the people in this room have seen many times over, and you're strong and you can handle it, but a lot of people can't handle it." The insufferable tumor with the bad comb-over said this knowing that twenty-two veterans commit suicide each day.



This is another example of the support conservatives give to U.S. troops who fight in the needless wars Republicans want for their cronies in the defense industry to increase their profits.



So let’s hear the right-wingers responses to this OP, as they cheer for Trump’s stupid evaluation of those who actually made sacrifices for the U.S. Men and women who, unlike Trump, actually experienced war and saw the carnage of human bodies being blown apart. It is expected his dimwitted supporters will see his opinion concerning the men and women with PTSD as brilliant.



Go ahead righties, tell us what a great guy Donald Trump is, and how YOU and HE support the troops. (Note, how any other group of people do, or do NOT support the troops is irrelevant, so there is no reason to mention them.)



Donald Trump sparks fury with comment on veterans' suicide





.

Even Snopes is saying Trump's comment was taken out of context.

Donald Trump Didn't Say Vets with PTSD Are 'Weak'

Most critical reporting on the event elided Trump's key contextual assertion that "we're losing so many great people that can be taken care of if they have proper care," So while it's true Trump described present veterans as "strong" during the town hall event, he didn't also describe veterans dealing with mental health issues as weak or unfit.

I caught that at Snopes too. What we have here is a typical lib tactic. Take something out of context. Fabricate a new narrative and then hammer down on the fabrication.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The 25 Most Vicious Iraq War Profiteers

Wanna discuss Vietnam War profiteers? Johnson and Brown-Root? Look up and see who Brown-Root became

 

[Windship]

The accounting of the financial cost of the nearly decade-long Iraq War will go on for years, but a recent analysis has shed light on the companies that made money off the war by providing support services as the privatization of what were former U.S. military operations rose to unprecedented levels.

Private or publicly listed firms received at least $138 billion of U.S. taxpayer money for government contracts for services that included providing private security, building infrastructure and feeding the troops.

Ten contractors received 52 percent of the funds, according to an analysis by the Financial Times that was published Tuesday.

The No. 1 recipient?

Houston-based energy-focused engineering and construction firm KBR, Inc. (NYSE:KBR), which was spun off from its parent, oilfield services provider Halliburton Co. (NYSE:HAL), in 2007.

The company was given $39.5 billion in Iraq-related contracts over the past decade, with many of the deals given without any bidding from competing firms, such as a $568-million contract renewal in 2010 to provide housing, meals, water and bathroom services to soldiers, a deal that led to a Justice Department lawsuit over alleged kickbacks, as reported by Bloomberg.

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Who were Nos. 2 and 3?

Agility Logistics (KSE:AGLTY) of Kuwait and the state-owned Kuwait Petroleum Corp. Together, these firms garnered $13.5 billion of U.S. contracts.

As private enterprise entered the war zone at unprecedented levels, the amount of corruption ballooned, even if most contractors performed their duties as expected.

According to the bipartisan Commission on Wartime Contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan, the level of corruption by defense contractors may be as high as $60 billion. Disciplined soldiers that would traditionally do many of the tasks are commissioned by private and publicly listed companies.

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Even without the graft, the costs of paying for these services are higher than paying governement employees or soldiers to do them because of the profit motive involved. No-bid contracting -- when companies get to name their price with no competing bid -- didn’t lower legitimate expenses. (Despite promises by President Barack Obama to reel in this habit, the trend toward granting favored companies federal contracts without considering competing bids continued to grow, by 9 percent last year, according to the Washington Post.)

Even though the military has largely pulled out of Iraq, private contractors remain on the ground and continue to reap U.S. government contracts. For example, the U.S. State Department estimates that taxpayers will dole out $3 billion to private guards for the government’s sprawling embassy in Baghdad.

The costs of paying private and publicly listed war profiteers seem miniscule in light of the total bill for the war.

Last week, the Costs of War Project by the Watson Institute for International Studies at Brown University said the war in Iraq cost $1.7 trillion dollars, not including the $490 billion in immediate benefits owed to veterans of the war and the lifetime benefits that will be owed to them or their next of kin.