OK, here is a short (as possible) synopsis of my experiences so far.
- Delta-8 cannabinol is chemically an almost identical isomer to Delta-9 and both fit into the same receptor sites. It has been suggested that D8 is a waste of time, not so. I bought the concentrate which is like a hard oil or wax, it has the viscosity at room temperature of 5 year old tree sap. It's been about 12-13 years since I played with any such thing and while rather an expert on getting high, have little experience with such concentrates except maybe once or twice in high school 45 years ago buying hash oil. So I've been taking a very systematic approach.
- Took a pea sized glop and dissolved it in warm vodka to make a small eye dropper bottle of tincture for sublingual application under the tongue. Had no idea of dosage. Taking a dropper full under the tongue every few minutes eventually gave me a very relaxed, sedate feeling with maybe half the bottle gone. I may eventually make some hot green tea with a larger amount which would probably be more effective. Of course, we understand that THC ingested orally is metabolized by the liver into a different isomer lipid 11-hydroxy-THC, which is the reason for the body high.
- The other day I rigged the next step which was to mount a metal spoon in my lab bench mechanical hands (a pair of alligator clips mounted to a base), on which I deposited a glop. I actually put too much there. Using a temperature control soldering iron with fresh tip, I can set the tip to any temp I want and heated the glop that way. It soon liquefied, but between the puddle and the wicking of the metal spoon, I couldn't get the heat I wanted because the iron is actually made for delicate electronic work, but it generated light wisps of smoke which I collected and drew in with a large funnel I could look through. A bit dry and harsh, but felt an effect from the very little I got. I poured the rest back in the jar.
- Yesterday I dug out an old hash oil pipe I had luckily saved from high school. It has a small glass bubble with small opening with hump in the stem that then goes back about a foot. It was very dirty so I baked it in my oven for three hours on clean cycle. That got it about half clean, good enough to use. Last evening I put much less in, about a tenth of the previous glops, maybe an eighth inch bit on a tiny screw driver which upon heating the glass, softened the material enough to separate it into the clean bowl. Then I heated it more over the gas burner of my stove on very low, just enough to see the bowl fill up with white vapor or smoke. Hard to say but I was trying to vape it with no more heat than necessary to create white vapor. Whatever I was actually doing, I drew the smoke in until I couldn't take anymore then exhaled immediately to continue puffing as the pipe refilled with smoke, so I couldn't just hold it in for full effect. It was rather dry and harsh and tasteless. I did this a number of times until I felt I had probably vaped most of the stuff and my throat had had enough. My throat and lungs are not in the best shape for this sort of thing so I wanted to take it rather easy this first time.
- I had a bit of feeling in my head of fullness and came in here and sat down to read and type. After several minutes, I said to myself: "Toob, you're kinda high." Over the next 30 minutes, I continued to climb, going from kinda high, to stoned, to very stoned to wasted. I was frankly really SHOCKED. This stuff isn't supposed to do this! Soon, I could not even make sense out of what I was trying to type and could barely type and was having an even harder time READING. With GREAT difficulty, I managed to write THIS one post while higher than a kite (post 14):
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I bet it took 15-30 minutes to get that one post written.
I quickly realized I was having an LSD-like astral experience. I re-lived my life, went back to very old thoughts, past experiences, my mind was flashing a hundred thoughts a second. I was in a dream-like state almost apart from my body. It was so intense that while I thought of going upstairs to get into some TV and trip out on the show, I was so stoned that I just sat here at the computer for the next half hour to hour, I really don't know, I have no idea when I started this, what time it was or anything, I had no sense of time passage, 5 minutes could have seemed like an hour or an hour could have gone by in 5 minutes. All I knew was that I was so high that it didn't matter where I was or what I was doing, I was on a similar trip as I might get with any good weed or even LSD. I would say the main difference was a lack of VISUAL manifestations. I didn't see the colors or patterns or other strange effects one might expect from good weed or LSD. It was an intense body high but also a very intense first-class mental high.
- Did it reduce anxiety? ABSOLUTELY. It would be impossible to be anxious or nervous! In this regard, it was a thousand times more effective than any anxiety medication I had ever taken. It took effect in minutes, not hours or weeks.
- Did it make me hungry? Not really. No munchies.
- Did it alleviate pain? Very well. I would say it was about 100 to 150% better at alleviating pain that various opioids I've taken.
- Would I want to drive while peaking? No. Not recommended.
- Would this treat insomnia? Very likely. Very relaxed and I think I slept pretty much like a rock last night.
- Time distortion, euphoria, tranquility, relaxation, racing thoughts, dreamy, introspective state, difficulty in thinking, reading and remembering, even some paranoia. WASTED.
About an hour after smoking that little bit, I began to clear enough that I went up to watch some programming and have a drink. I was still very high. I had an intense experience where I enjoyed shows more and things struck me funnier. I was now much more part of the show rather than being he who is WATCHING the show on TV. I stayed high the rest of the night and was easily high for at least 6 hours, and still feeling the effects at least 12-16 hours. The next day I am still not fully recovered (well now maybe after 24 hours).
So, are there medicinal qualities to D8? ABSOLUTELY. I won't be wasting any of this rubbing it on my joints, but the stuff will definitely relax you, calm you down, make things hurt less, and help you sleep. In a sense, it kind of made the prescription stuff seem like a ******* JOKE. What a waste not to be prescribing this stuff. So why do some people report that it doesn't get you high? Am I exaggerating or just a noob? Nothing could be farther from the truth.
I believe the reason for it is that most stoners smoke to get really wasted and to STAY wasted. As soon as it starts wearing off, they want back up, and so, actually build up a high tolerance. The more you smoke, the more it takes to keep creating the same effect. Soon, you can't smoke enough to get really high. I believe the key to getting really high on D8 at least is to not overdo it. THC stays in your tissues for a very long time, maybe 6 weeks? I'll be smoking some more tonight, but once a day was plenty enough. I believe that by allowing your body to fully recover and come all the way back to normal, this keeps you sensitive, getting great effect from smoking very little. And the positive effects lingered easily for 6-8 hours while other effects lasted much longer.
Put another way: don't make too much of a good thing.
Tonight after I eat, I'm going to repeat last night's experiment then get into some sci fi like Star Trek, Lost In Space--- some far out trippy programming. I'll be curious to see if I have as intense an experience (I hope so), more or less. All I can say is that last night at times, I actually felt guilty--- I was zoned to the max LEGALLY which really brings into question what the point is about making any pot products illegal in the first place or why this stuff isn't illegal too. Who knows. Politicians and bureaucrats almost never write good laws that make sense. But this stuff can definitely get you BLITZED, to where you are walking in circles trying to remember what the hell you were doing, laughing at nothing, or just having a very good time. But maybe not if you are a heavy stoner used to gulping down loads of sensimellia all day long.
One thing I do know is that while I may occasionally consume some of this in a beverage or food, the prudent way to really use this stuff is by vaping, and to do it right, really right, next week, I'm going to have to look into buying some sort of e-nail dabbing PID bubbler rig. Yes, I've been researching.
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