This country has no choice but to increase the number of supreme court justices.

[Billo_Really]

American Progress, Billo? Seriously? LOL

Ad hominems are not valid rebuttals.

 

[Nostra]

It's not a lie.

Too Little, Too Late: Trump’s Prescription Drug Executive Order Does Not Help Patients

President Trump’s recent executive order is nothing but a distraction from his record of inaction on lowering drug prices.

www.americanprogress.org

Yes, it is. You are a liar.

 

[Nostra]

Bullshit! The only thing that gave Trump the authority and jurisdiction for his EO is in the ACA Act, which he tried to dismiss.

So no, his EO didn't do jack shit! It was nothing but a Trump shell game.

More lies.

 

[struth]

Bullshit! The only thing that gave Trump the authority and jurisdiction for his EO is in the ACA Act, which he tried to dismiss.

So no, his EO didn't do jack shit! It was nothing but a Trump shell game.

hahaha the ACA didn't give the President any sort of authority to issue EO for HHS.

Try again, you idiot

 

[Man With A Plan]

Ad hominems are not valid rebuttals.

American Progress is a laughable cite not worthy of rebuttal.

 

[Greenbeard]

It was an EO. EO 13948, signed sept of 2020.

hahaha the ACA didn't give the President any sort of authority to issue EO for HHS.

Try again, you idiot

Putting aside that this was never implemented because it was an election year stunt, not actual policymaking, the legal authority of this hypothetical policy absolutely derives from the ACA. That EO directed HHS to try implementing Most Favored Nation by testing a payment model through the Center for Medicaid and Medicaid Innovation ("consistent with section 1315a(b)(2)(A) of title 42, United States Code")

What gives HHS the authority to test new payment models? What created the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation? Where did section 1315a come from? ACA, ACA, ACA.

If his stupid ACA repeal attempts had succeeded, or the SCOTUS had heeded his request to throw out the entire law, there'd be no authority for anything like this. Same with hospital price transparency. What little agenda he actually had was entirely dependent on the ACA being in place.

 

[CowboyTed]

no.

Leave it at 9.

I would think that if there is anything we can all come together on and codify with a constitutional amendment, it would be this.

Add an amendment to the constitution; leave it at 9 for all eternity and stop having this argument.

Yep, the court has given up any pretense of being ethical or remotely sane in some cases (does the recent rulings on Bump stocks and elevating the President to a position of royalty make one American's life better???). Don't blame the blob for using the bat that Bernie and his idiotic followers gave him. Blame Bernie. Democrats have to understand that this is major league baseball they're playing. There was zero reason that HRC should have lost in 2016. Democratic voters, as the saying goes, think they need to "fall in love" with the candidate. Republicans understand that they need to fall in line.

I understand what you are thinking but you are saying that Dems should play fair accept the loss.. Screw that...

Increase to 13.
Enstate Puerto Rico and Washington DC as States with senators (both are bigger other states and are increasing population faster)...
Introduce multi-seat preference voting, this will ensure the center keeps power and extremes are kept at bay
Reinstate The fairness Doctrine and bring back sanity to the media.

 

[struth]

Putting aside that this was never implemented because it was an election year stunt, not actual policymaking, the legal authority of this hypothetical policy absolutely derives from the ACA. That EO directed HHS to try implementing Most Favored Nation by testing a payment model through the Center for Medicaid and Medicaid Innovation ("consistent with section 1315a(b)(2)(A) of title 42, United States Code")

What gives HHS the authority to test new payment models? What created the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation? Where did section 1315a come from? ACA, ACA, ACA.

If his stupid ACA repeal attempts had succeeded, or the SCOTUS had heeded his request to throw out the entire law, there'd be no authority for anything like this. Same with hospital price transparency. What little agenda he actually had was entirely dependent on the ACA being in place.

Of course it was implemented the day he signed it.

The ACA didn’t give the president authority to issues EO.

 

[Greenbeard]

Of course it was implemented the day he signed it.

It’s a direction to begin rule making under ACA-granted authority.

So in the sense that Azar started a process of drafting a rule based on that instruction, sure it was “implemented.” In the sense of actual instituting Most Favored Nation and impacting the price of a single drug, obviously that never happened.

 

[struth]

It’s a direction to begin rule making under ACA-granted authority.

So in the sense that Azar started a process of drafting a rule based on that instruction, sure it was “implemented.” In the sense of actual instituting Most Favored Nation and impacting the price of a single drug, obviously that never happened.

The US Constitution vest Executive power in a President, that's where the President gets authority to issues EOs over the executive branch, including HHS.

Yes it never happened because the XIden admin pulled the most favored nation status after lawsuits from drug manufactors

 

[Greenbeard]

The US Constitution vest Executive power in a President, that's where the President gets authority to issues EOs over the executive branch, including HHS.

No kidding he can put instructions in writing, but policy pursued by the executive branch must be rooted in statutory authority. The President can’t just say he wants to implement MFN or hospital price transparency, there has to be a statutory authority from which those policies derive. (That’s why Trump’s pretense that he could ban pre-existing conditions via EO in the event the ACA were destroyed was a joke.) In this case, the Affordable Care Act is what allows the executive to even contemplate implementing such policies.

 

[Billo_Really]

Yes, it is. You are a liar.

And you are a troll.

 

[Billo_Really]

hahaha the ACA didn't give the President any sort of authority to issue EO for HHS.

Try again, you idiot

I provided the link a few posts back. It explains it all there.

 

[struth]

I provided the link a few posts back. It explains it all there.

No, no you didn't....because the President only gets his authority to write EOs, from the US Constitution, not the ACA....idiot

 

[Clipper]

"Elections have consequences"-Barry Hussein Obama.

Cry more.

Republicans, especially Trump & Mitch- no honor among thieves. They'd bone each other in a heartbeat just to make a point.

How's that Coors 12 pack a day guy workin out for ya, Cleetus?

 

[Nostra]

And you are a troll.

More lies from the liar.

 

[Nostra]

Republicans, especially Trump & Mitch- no honor among thieves. They'd bone each other in a heartbeat just to make a point.

How's that Coors 12 pack a day guy workin out for ya, Cleetus?

At least you follow my directions.

Cry more.....again.

 

[Clipper]

At least you follow my directions.

Cry more.....again.

I just put you in your place. Take a hike, Shorty.

 

[Nostra]

I just put you in your place. Take a hike, Shorty.

Good boy. Now cry some more.

 

[beagle9]

I understand what you are thinking but you are saying that Dems should play fair accept the loss.. Screw that...

Increase to 13.
Enstate Puerto Rico and Washington DC as States with senators (both are bigger other states and are increasing population faster)...
Introduce multi-seat preference voting, this will ensure the center keeps power and extremes are kept at bay
Reinstate The fairness Doctrine and bring back sanity to the media.

And you knuckleheads will still lose on the issues, and you are losing the culture war battles as well.