This country has no choice but to increase the number of supreme court justices.

[beagle9]

Biden won't relent or step aside because he is using the power of the office to shield his past indiscretion's or alleged criminality. He should be forced out through a bipartisan effort that will enact the 25th on him.

If not that, then the impeachment process should be sped up expeditiously in order to shut him down for the good of the country.

I really think that we have a situation where Biden is using the office to shield him, his brother, and his son from being federally charged for crimes involving the violation of many statutes prior to being elected as president.

The violations were caused by their entanglement in nefarious dealing's that had allegedly turned into a money laundering network in which compromised the Democrat's genda's when trying to protect their puppet from investigation or indictment (i.e. too old and senile to face charges).

When the nation looks back on this stuff, it's going to feel so ashamed for what it was willing to conceal and lie about in the situation, and all just to protect these people for a greediness and corrupt mindset that it developed all due to their agenda wants and needs.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

It was set at 9 in 1869 when the population of the USA was 38 million. Your population is ten times that number now and the SC is hardly representative of the population.

What the fuck does the number of Justices have to do with population size ? The job of the SC is to interpret Constitutional law. They are the Judicial branch of government not Legislative. The education system in this country has gone to shit. Idiot.

 

[beagle9]

What the fuck does the number of Justices have to do with population size ? The job of the SC is to interpret Constitutional law. They are the Judicial branch of government not Legislative. The education system in this country has gone to shit. Idiot.

They will try and say anything now...

 

[Lesh]

Let’s remember how we got here.
Scalia died leaving a seat open almost a year before the 2016 election.

Republicans refused to even consider appointing the Justice that Obama proposed claiming that you can not appoint a Justice in the last year of a Presidential term.

Total bullshit as we will see in a minute.

Trump quickly appointed Gorsuch (picked from a list of Federalist Society judges provided to him). In order to ram his appointment through that “nuked” the SC filibuster making all appointments going forward much more partisan.That held the court at 5-4 to the right instead of 5-4 left.

Then… in 2020 RBG died and Republicans slammed another Federalist Society pick into that seat just weeks before a presidential election. According to the “Gorsuch rule” mentioned above… that appointment should have been made by Biden after winning the election and approved by a Dem Senate.

The Court SHOULD be 5-4 or 6-3 to the left… but Republicans managed to game the system (essentially pack the Court) to a 6-3 right wing majority


And that’s how we got Dobbs/Roe and Presidential immunity among other really bad right wing decisions

 

[Robert W]

The republicans want less government intrusion in most matters, as opposed to Marxists who seek total government control of absolutely everything.

Precisely. It was around 1978 that I started as a Democrat to realize that in truth, the Democrats are the authoritarians. I realized that mainly starting with FDR the Democrats were full tilt unhappy with our Countries written Government documents. They raised hell about free speech (can't say Fire in a theater, and that is a lie) FDR copied Hitler's economy that is seldom talked about. For Germany Adolf Hitler was their dream come true. They were smashed in the face after WW1 and he showed them how to be powerful and get a huge growth out of Government. FDR wanted Growth for the USA so he wanted to pack the court and shove Hitler's ideas down our throats. Examine his Autobahns. Examine his massive building projects. Examine the impact his arms programs had on the German economy. And examine video of them loving Hitler. For a Socialist he was a dream come true.

I want you all to imagine that Hitler did not wage war at all. What would history then say? He fucked himself by waging war against many nations. And the creep was a major asshole.

 

[Robert W]

Let’s remember how we got here.
Scalia died leaving a seat open almost a year before the 2016 election.

Republicans refused to even consider appointing the Justice that Obama proposed claiming that you can not appoint a Justice in the last year of a Presidential term.

Total bullshit as we will see in a minute.

Trump quickly appointed Gorsuch (picked from a list of Federalist Society judges provided to him). In order to ram his appointment through that “nuked” the SC filibuster making all appointments going forward much more partisan.That held the court at 5-4 to the right instead of 5-4 left.

Then… in 2020 RBG died and Republicans slammed another Federalist Society pick into that seat just weeks before a presidential election. According to the “Gorsuch rule” mentioned above… that appointment should have been made by Biden after winning the election and approved by a Dem Senate.

The Court SHOULD be 5-4 or 6-3 to the left… but Republicans managed to game the system (essentially pack the Court) to a 6-3 right wing majority


And that’s how we got Dobbs/Roe and Presidential immunity among other really bad right wing decisions

Does not matter how Trump picked Gorsuch. There is no law stating that Obama was our ruler. Obama was just a president. His desires were not met. This is the function of Congress. They said no to Merrick Garland and his shitty performance shows why the asshole is the wrong man. He is creating lawfare.
Don't fret. Obama was beholding to his thugs too. Congress has worked to Impeach Garland due to his piss poor dealing with his job.

 

[Robert W]

They in no way are using the constitution to make these decision , , its either money under the table ,which seem quite easy to find. You people are a joke when you use state rights as a issue supporting your opinion, You will pick both sides of the issue depending on what you want done. You people have no substance. By the way your abortion bill will be overturned and it will be another 50 years before you will be able to do something about it. That's a wait and see opinion which isn't really mine. We should either dump this whole court or add 4 more justices to the supreme court and turn around 180 deg the decisions of these paid for judges. Once all of their decision are dumped then we can look and watch , what we will find out is that we have to dump the whole court. We will do it the same way you make government work for you, and yes violence as you have shown is a choice we will consider./ as in Tit for Tat.

We call democrats Dr. Death now. And keep it up. You keep proving it.

 

[Lesh]

Does not matter how Trump picked Gorsuch. There is no law stating that Obama was our ruler. Obama was just a president. His desires were not met. This is the function of Congress. They said no to Merrick Garland and his shitty performance shows why the asshole is the wrong man. He is creating lawfare.
Don't fret. Obama was beholding to his thugs too. Congress has worked to Impeach Garland due to his piss poor dealing with his job.

Has nothing to do with Obama “being a ruler”

And everything to do with Republican shenanigans to pack the court

 

[beagle9]

Let’s remember how we got here.
Scalia died leaving a seat open almost a year before the 2016 election.

Republicans refused to even consider appointing the Justice that Obama proposed claiming that you can not appoint a Justice in the last year of a Presidential term.

Total bullshit as we will see in a minute.

Trump quickly appointed Gorsuch (picked from a list of Federalist Society judges provided to him). In order to ram his appointment through that “nuked” the SC filibuster making all appointments going forward much more partisan.That held the court at 5-4 to the right instead of 5-4 left.

Then… in 2020 RBG died and Republicans slammed another Federalist Society pick into that seat just weeks before a presidential election. According to the “Gorsuch rule” mentioned above… that appointment should have been made by Biden after winning the election and approved by a Dem Senate.

The Court SHOULD be 5-4 or 6-3 to the left… but Republicans managed to game the system (essentially pack the Court) to a 6-3 right wing majority


And that’s how we got Dobbs/Roe and Presidential immunity among other really bad right wing decisions

Man if those judges just never died eh ? Now stop your whining already.

 

[Robert W]

Has nothing to do with Obama “being a ruler”

And everything to do with Republican shenanigans to pack the court

You talk that way and I did it thinking you understand Obama was the ruler.
Let me see. Republican dies, in a packed court for the Democrats, and we rejected Democrats packing the court again.

Great job Congress.

 

[Nostra]

and it will be done to overturn the destruction of the values ,law and democracy of this country perpetrated by a corrupt paid for lying supreme court. They get paid by corporations and people to make their decisions in behalf of those corporations and people. That never was the idea of our finding fathers for this court. That will be accomplished by adding 4 new justices selected by Biden. and completely overturn the last multiple decisions over the last few decades. Maybe a good place to start erasing is corporation being people. Including every decision that were made during this last session. The court and law has to be revised so that it isn't owned by the money that is strained into it.

And when the next Republican gets into office he adds 15 Conservative judges.

you morons never think things thru jbander

 

[AZrailwhale]

If we had a constitutional convention right now (which some people see as necessary) we would end up with a Bill of Deserves instead of rights, 150 supreme court judges, a standing army of fact checkers, and the elimination of the original bill of rights which would be absorbed by and delegated to the nanny state for resolution.

No we wouldn't because most of the states are conservative. To be passed any new amendments or changes could need two thirds of the states. To be ratified any changes would need approval from three quarters of the states.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Let’s remember how we got here.
Scalia died leaving a seat open almost a year before the 2016 election.

Republicans refused to even consider appointing the Justice that Obama proposed claiming that you can not appoint a Justice in the last year of a Presidential term.

Total bullshit as we will see in a minute.

Trump quickly appointed Gorsuch (picked from a list of Federalist Society judges provided to him). In order to ram his appointment through that “nuked” the SC filibuster making all appointments going forward much more partisan.That held the court at 5-4 to the right instead of 5-4 left.

Then… in 2020 RBG died and Republicans slammed another Federalist Society pick into that seat just weeks before a presidential election. According to the “Gorsuch rule” mentioned above… that appointment should have been made by Biden after winning the election and approved by a Dem Senate.

The Court SHOULD be 5-4 or 6-3 to the left… but Republicans managed to game the system (essentially pack the Court) to a 6-3 right wing majority


And that’s how we got Dobbs/Roe and Presidential immunity among other really bad right wing decisions

If you look at the conduct of the person, it's a godsend that he wasn't considered. Obama could have found a more centrist candidate that the republicans would have voted for, but he didn't even try. As usual with Obama it was "my way, or the highway".

 

[jbander]

The point you made was why I asked the questions, dumbass.

I don't care.

You probably can’t either.


I tried asking questions for clarification but you refused to answer.


Who said they don’t like you?


Who’s “we”?


I don’t give a rat’s ass about either one. That remark was for you.

I contributed by asking questions and you called me “traitor” and “worm” for my troubles.

You’re ruining your own thread because you’re not discussing the topic. All you’re doing is ranting and calling people names.

You don't exist in this thread , go start your own. Rules you have to contribute and you can't try to hijack the thread/ Just move on, I don't want to have you wasting bandwidth on my thread.

 

[jbander]

You don't really understand how the Constitution works...do you, Jbander?

Funny!

 

[jbander]

Put down the bong, son...

Good bye condor it has been a slice , non step worthless not contributing comment gets you a free ride out of her. Go someplace else and play.

 

[jbander]

Decisions should never be made on the basis of emotion. Emotions cloud judgement.

a persons emotions is in effect on every single thing that they decide, in fact everything that everyone decides. . Your little game of words meaning what you dam well demand that they mean , is probably one of the biggest jokes out there, most often seen in words definitions made up by every single one of these MAGA's and others to some extent also. Your language has been created emotionally because you think you can define what everything means your self. Your idea that emotions cause some deficit in judgement is a joke . I'm not denying that there isn't stupid unhelpful emotions(as in MAGA) but everything a person does and thinks is derived from and controlled to a point by their emotions

 

[jbander]

Let’s remember how we got here.
Scalia died leaving a seat open almost a year before the 2016 election.

Republicans refused to even consider appointing the Justice that Obama proposed claiming that you can not appoint a Justice in the last year of a Presidential term.

Total bullshit as we will see in a minute.

Trump quickly appointed Gorsuch (picked from a list of Federalist Society judges provided to him). In order to ram his appointment through that “nuked” the SC filibuster making all appointments going forward much more partisan.That held the court at 5-4 to the right instead of 5-4 left.

Then… in 2020 RBG died and Republicans slammed another Federalist Society pick into that seat just weeks before a presidential election. According to the “Gorsuch rule” mentioned above… that appointment should have been made by Biden after winning the election and approved by a Dem Senate.

The Court SHOULD be 5-4 or 6-3 to the left… but Republicans managed to game the system (essentially pack the Court) to a 6-3 right wing majority


And that’s how we got Dobbs/Roe and Presidential immunity among other really bad right wing decisions

Fact, Dems are to nice, it may cost us the country. It is simple to me you try to bring down my government and force in a piece of shit for a dictator and you are my enemy and I will treat you like the enemy and traitor you are, as should everyone.

 

[jbander]

If you look at the conduct of the person, it's a godsend that he wasn't considered. Obama could have found a more centrist candidate that the republicans would have voted for, but he didn't even try. As usual with Obama it was "my way, or the highway".

Yes and as you point it out he has the right to make that derision. He wasn't turned down for being anything other then a person who leans to the left. and dumbo what kind of judge do you expect a left leaning president to choose. By the way ,the way MAGA is now, anyone they want I hate, They are the enemy of my country.

 

[Robert W]

You don't exist in this thread , go start your own. Rules you have to contribute and you can't try to hijack the thread/ Just move on, I don't want to have you wasting bandwidth on my thread

IT is his topic. My suggestion is he does not want a discussion. He wants just approval. Fuck that jack. I want him done and finished.