This country has no choice but to increase the number of supreme court justices.

[Stann]

Voters aren't disenfranchised. The way it was supposed to work was the House was elected by popular vote, the Senate was appointed by the states and the Presidency was intended to balance the two being chosen by a combination of the census and state governments. This was corrupted by the direct election of the Senate and now the democrats want to take the last brake off their pandering to what the founders called the mob.

Trump never won the popular vote. He should have never been president. Those voters were disenfranchised. Which means the majority of people who voted lost their vote.

 

[AZrailwhale]

It has not been fine all along , right now the supreme court is hated more then in any time in history. When that happens and they become the enemy of the country and go against what the people of the country want , then dump their asses. Giving corporations the same right as people , allowing the president to kill his enemy's , or not being able to be prosecuted for trying to bring down our democracy to force himself in a s a dictator. Taking away the right of women to choose what they can and can not do to their own body. The ultimate point and the only real reason we need to dump him is allowing shitpants to be above the law. Dump their treasonous asses.

The Supreme Court was never intended to bow before public opinion. In fact, it was intended as a bulwark against the passing fancies of the electorate. Its purpose is to decide if the laws enacted by the congress pandering to public opinion meet the requirement of the Constitution. The fact that you don't comprehend that is just evidence of your lack of knowledge about how our government was designed to work. You are the kind of voter the democrats want. One who lacks basic knowledge and makes decisions based upon emotions rather than facts.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Trump never won the popular vote. He should have never been president. Those voters were disenfranchised. Which means the majority of people who voted lost their vote.

You don't understand why we have the Electoral College

 

[PredFan]

and it will be done to overturn the destruction of the values ,law and democracy of this country perpetrated by a corrupt paid for lying supreme court. They get paid by corporations and people to make their decisions in behalf of those corporations and people. That never was the idea of our finding fathers for this court. That will be accomplished by adding 4 new justices selected by Biden. and completely overturn the last multiple decisions over the last few decades. Maybe a good place to start erasing is corporation being people. Including every decision that were made during this last session. The court and law has to be revised so that it isn't owned by the money that is strained into it.

The Conservative Justices consistently apply the Constitution which is their job. The liberals apply the democrat party agenda, and ignore the Constitution.

 

[Stann]

. You are the kind of voter the democrats want. One who lacks basic knowledge and makes decisions based upon emotions rather than facts.

Don't you mean republicans ? Their stand on abortion is nothing but pure emotion. Didn't bother to think it through. Real conservatives would allow abortion. Plus trump as an autocrat , that's pure emotionalism too. Fear , emotions and insanity now run the republican party.

 

[Votto]

and it will be done to overturn the destruction of the values ,law and democracy of this country perpetrated by a corrupt paid for lying supreme court. They get paid by corporations and people to make their decisions in behalf of those corporations and people. That never was the idea of our finding fathers for this court. That will be accomplished by adding 4 new justices selected by Biden. and completely overturn the last multiple decisions over the last few decades. Maybe a good place to start erasing is corporation being people. Including every decision that were made during this last session. The court and law has to be revised so that it isn't owned by the money that is strained into it.

Oh dear.

The bedwetters must have had another SCOTUS ruling that is causing them PMS again.

Oh look, another baby got passed the goalie.


Must have been from a red state. Pisses you off doesn't it.

 

[Stann]

You don't understand why we have the Electoral College

It made sense to get the smaller colonies to sign on to the Declaration of Independence but not anymore. It's now counterproductive.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Trump never won the popular vote. He should have never been president. Those voters were disenfranchised. Which means the majority of people who voted lost their vote.

The presidency was never intended to be selected by the popular vote. If you want that AMEND THE CONSTITUTION. But goiod luck with that, yoyu don't have the numbers to so that.
""The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate."
You don't have two thirds of the states wanting the removal of the electoral college, not two thirds of both houses of the legislature to even propose an amendment let alone the three fourths of the states of confirm it. If you managed to call of a constitutional convention to make amendments, you wouldn't like the outcome because the "red" states would band together to force the country to be far more conservative than it is now. The amended Bill of Rights would have real teeth to prevent people like you from nibbling it to death like you constantly try to.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Don't you mean republicans ? Their stand on abortion is nothing but pure emotion. Didn't bother to think it through. Real conservatives would allow abortion. Plus trump as an autocrat , that's pure emotionalism too. Fear , emotions and insanity now run the republican party.

Nope, the justices stand was that abortion was not a federal matter. There are no grounds in the Constitution for the federal government to either support or oppose it. SCOTUS just remanded the issue to the states where it belongs.

 

[AZrailwhale]

It made sense to get the smaller colonies to sign on to the Declaration of Independence but not anymore. It's now counterproductive.

It's just a valid today unless you want California, New York and Illinois to rule the country because of their large populations.

 

[Robert W]

Nope, the justices stand was that abortion was not a federal matter. There are no grounds in the Constitution for the federal government to either support or oppose it. SCOTUS just remanded the issue to the states where it belongs.

Roe v Wade amounted to legislating from the court. And of course that is uncalled for in the constitution as you accurately pointed out.

 

[Robert W]

It's just a valid today unless you want California, New York and Illinois to rule the country because of their large populations.

Democrats would revolt if they got their way on the electoral college. And you told them why.

 

[Markle]

It's almost as outdated as the electoral college. That's an increasingly worse situation. We can't keep disenfranchising millions of voters.

Why do you believe that a dozen or so cities should or would be allowed to run the entire country?

 

[Markle]

Roe v Wade amounted to legislating from the court. And of course that is uncalled for in the constitution as you accurately pointed out.

As you know, that is not true. Reversing Roe v Wade corrected a bad decision. A bad decision that even ultra-liberal Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said was a bad decision. Why do you prefer that the court ignore bad decisions?

 

[JustAGuy1]

I don't want to point fingers and turn this discussion into a finger pointing exercise.

So you advocate for NY and CA deciding elections?

 

[Robert W]

As you know, that is not true. Reversing Roe v Wade corrected a bad decision. A bad decision that even ultra-liberal Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said was a bad decision. Why do you prefer that the court ignore bad decisions?

You did not understand me. I know because I agree with other things you say here. I also agree Roe v Wade was a terrible ruling. The present court did it correctly.

 

[PredFan]

As you know, that is not true. Reversing Roe v Wade corrected a bad decision. A bad decision that even ultra-liberal Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said was a bad decision. Why do you prefer that the court ignore bad decisions?

Exactly true. Laws on abortion are not covered in the Constitution and by Constitutional Law, belong to the states to decide. The original RvW ruling was the wrong one.

 

[Stann]

The presidency was never intended to be selected by the popular vote. If you want that AMEND THE CONSTITUTION. But goiod luck with that, yoyu don't have the numbers to so that.
""The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate."
You don't have two thirds of the states wanting the removal of the electoral college, not two thirds of both houses of the legislature to even propose an amendment let alone the three fourths of the states of confirm it. If you managed to call of a constitutional convention to make amendments, you wouldn't like the outcome because the "red" states would band together to force the country to be far more conservative than it is now. The amended Bill of Rights would have real teeth to prevent people like you from nibbling it to death like you constantly try to.

Correct , but it no longer functions properly. Which is more important the right of the individual 's vote or keeping an archaic tradition alive that serves no relevant function that is no longer needed or wanted.

 

[Robert W]

Exactly true. Laws on abortion are not covered in the Constitution and by Constitutional Law, belong to the states to decide. The original RvW ruling was the wrong one.

When Markle told me this, I was alert he did not understand my comments at all.

" Why do you prefer that the court ignore bad decisions?"

 

[PredFan]

When Markle told me this, I was alert he did not understand my comments at all.

" Why do you prefer that the court ignore bad decisions?"

I was simply replying to his statement, it wasn't intended for you.