They're Coming to America.

[Harry Dresden]

C_Clayton_Jones is a person from a shithole country….FOR SURE!

no reply jones is just a piece of shit....

 

[skye]

no reply jones is just a piece of shit....

yes.

 

[Unkotare]

...legit real core Americans who know, love and respect our constitution, history, traditions, values and morals ...

That’s not YOU, loser.

 

[BrokeLoser]

That’s not YOU, loser.

Hahaha…according to you that’s Humberto breaking into our nation right now.

 

[Lastamender]

For conservatives that ‘concern’ is the product of nativist racism, bigotry, and hate, of white grievance politics and racist replacement theory.

That an immigrant is undocumented doesn’t mean he’s ‘illegal.’

What conservatives wrongly attack as ‘illegal’ is in fact consistent with immigration law: migrants, refugees, and asylum seekers lawfully pursuing applications for refugee status.

What a mouthful of shit that post was.

 

[The Duke]

Uh that's wrong. The Great Society was Johnson, OMG, you don't even have basic facts right.

The Great Society was Johnson's boondoggle, not Reagan.

Cripes

To be real; That one's from Canada, where the son of Fidel Castro is their leader.

 

[Thinker101]

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

In 1970, you have been living under the Democratic New Deal for 40 years, and life was good.

In 2023, you have been living under Reagan's Great Society for 40 years and the nation is on the verge of civil war.

Life is happier and better for everyone, when Democrats are in charge.

Of course they are. That's why more and more people are fleeing Democrat shit hole states and headed to well managed red states.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Illegal immigration has been a concern for the U.S. for decades.

Migrants, in desperate need of work to feed their families, keep coming to America to be hired for the jobs Americans offer to them.

Obviously, Congress must to fulfill its responsibility to institute a coherent immigration policy to satisfy the requirements of the nation, funding Social Security just one of multiple economic and societal needs.

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America’s birth rate has largely been below replacement level since the 1970s, and in steep decline for the past 15 years.​

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Once, the country was brimming with an up-and-coming workforce. In 1960, there were six working adults for every person over 65. In 2030, we’ll hit 2.8 working adults for every person over 65.​

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The number of working adults is slated to keep shrinking in proportion to older Americans.​

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[W]e’re actually facing an immigrant deficit. Trump-era policies excluded 1.5 million to 2 million people who would normally have immigrated to the US between 2017 and 2021...​

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Trump’s clampdown on refugees costs the economy more than $9 billion a year.​

But good luck trying to convince Americans we need more immigrants. Nearly 70 percent feel that present immigration levels are sufficient or should be decreased...​

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“[L]etting immigrants into America is a long-term revenue generator. Immigrants are people. Immigrants are consumers. Immigrants are inventors. Immigrants are founders of businesses, and they are overrepresented as founders of businesses relative to natives.”​

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"Immigration can temporarily depress wages for those at the lowest end of the wage spectrum. “But in general,” he says, “it creates jobs for Americans.” ​

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Strict limits on immigration, though, stifle immigrants’ economic contributions to the US.​

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[America is running out of working-age adults. Here’s how to solve the labor shortage. - The Boston Globe]​

Like always your post is bullshit. Lost money when you don't consider the cost to have them here. Not just my opinion, but the Mayor of NYC said it will cost NY taxpayers over 2 billion dollars to care for the illegals sent to his city.

If we really get to the point where we need illegals to support our social programs, then it's time to do away with the social programs or increase taxes to fund them. If our labor shortage is such a problem, time to cut government handouts to able bodied people that don't feel like working so they have no choice but to get a job.

The United States of America allows a million outsiders to become citizens of this country every year. This is on top the the near million green cards and Visa's we pass out annually for foreigners to take advantage of everything we created.

Illegals come here thinking they own the country and we owe them something for being here. Commie states give them drivers licenses. In NYC they were kept in a nice hotel until they decided illegals should not be kept in a posh hotel, and planned on moving them to another less expensive facility. Their appreciation? They refuse to go to another facility and are not camped out in tents in front of the hotel in protest. That's the thanks we get for Dementia allowing them to come here.

 

[lennypartiv]

Ray is right, immigration will ruin America.

 

[schmidlap]

Ray is right, immigration will ruin America.

It never had, of course. America's growth and prosperity have been fueled by immigration since the nation's inception.
What are your proposals for, e.g., funding Social Security?

As Motley Fool recently reported, Social Security’s problem isn’t that too many undocumented immigrants are crossing into the U.S. and draining the system. Instead, it’s that net-legal immigration has been in decline for the past 25 years — and payroll taxes from those immigrants have declined as well.​

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According to a recent analysis from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO), the balance in the SSA’s Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund – which helps fund retirement benefits — will be depleted by 2033. When that happens, you can expect a big reduction in monthly Social Security payments – as much as 23%, according to some estimates.​

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These kinds of scenarios are based on data compiled by the Social Security Board of Trustees, which tracks employment and other trends. Intermediate cost models in the 2022 Trustees Report are based on average annual total net immigration of 1,246,000 people, Motley Fool reported. However, that figure does not align with recent trends. Between July 1, 2012, and June 30, 2017, fewer than 955,000 total net migrants entered the U.S. per year, according to data from the World Bank.​

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If net migration into the U.S. continues to hold steady or decline even further, it’s “all but a certainty” that Social Security’s funding shortfall will increase, according to Motley Fool...​

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[F]ocus centering on... illegal immigrants coming into the country... misses an important point: Immigrants without legal status often pay into Social Security but don’t get to claim benefits when they retire, MarketWatch reported.​

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What’s more, illegal immigrants who pay into Social Security also don’t qualify for the program’s other protections, including long-term disability and survivor insurance protection. The result is a net gain for Social Security, which is something the program can sorely use right now, experts say.​

[Social Security: How Immigration Is Playing an Unexpected and Key Role in Fund Shortage]​

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[The Decline in U.S. Net Migration | Econofact.]​

 

[Unkotare]

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Illegals come here thinking they own the country and we owe them something for being here. ...

No they don't.

 

[schmidlap]

I did this the other day.....The general consensus was that we were a much better country with a 1970 level population.....1/3rd less than today.

Retrogressives can wallow in nostalgia for the America of 1856, and wish that folks coming to America hd been eradicated then, but that would not only have aborted America's rise as a great nation, it would have nullified the existence of a sizable chunk of the nativists themselves.

The Know Nothing Party, otherwise known as the American Party and the Native American Party, functioned as the political arm of the movement. By 1856, it had gained enough momentum to launch a bid for the presidency on a singularly focused platform—shutting down immigration to the United States and containing and marginalizing Catholicism...​

[Anti-Outsider Platforms | DPLA]​

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[Unkotare]

Hahaha…according to you ...

According to your own words, loser. You clearly don't understand or appreciate my great nation, and you are not welcome here.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It never had, of course. America's growth and prosperity have been fueled by immigration since the nation's inception.
What are your proposals for, e.g., funding Social Security?

As Motley Fool recently reported, Social Security’s problem isn’t that too many undocumented immigrants are crossing into the U.S. and draining the system. Instead, it’s that net-legal immigration has been in decline for the past 25 years — and payroll taxes from those immigrants have declined as well.​

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According to a recent analysis from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO), the balance in the SSA’s Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund – which helps fund retirement benefits — will be depleted by 2033. When that happens, you can expect a big reduction in monthly Social Security payments – as much as 23%, according to some estimates.​

​

These kinds of scenarios are based on data compiled by the Social Security Board of Trustees, which tracks employment and other trends. Intermediate cost models in the 2022 Trustees Report are based on average annual total net immigration of 1,246,000 people, Motley Fool reported. However, that figure does not align with recent trends. Between July 1, 2012, and June 30, 2017, fewer than 955,000 total net migrants entered the U.S. per year, according to data from the World Bank.​

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If net migration into the U.S. continues to hold steady or decline even further, it’s “all but a certainty” that Social Security’s funding shortfall will increase, according to Motley Fool...​

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[F]ocus centering on... illegal immigrants coming into the country... misses an important point: Immigrants without legal status often pay into Social Security but don’t get to claim benefits when they retire, MarketWatch reported.​

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What’s more, illegal immigrants who pay into Social Security also don’t qualify for the program’s other protections, including long-term disability and survivor insurance protection. The result is a net gain for Social Security, which is something the program can sorely use right now, experts say.​

[Social Security: How Immigration Is Playing an Unexpected and Key Role in Fund Shortage]​

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[The Decline in U.S. Net Migration | Econofact.]​

If we want these programs (and most Americans do) then they have to be funded plain and simple. Illegals in the country is not the answer as they bring more costs with them than benefits. So what needs to happen is a much higher employee/ employer contribution rate to make the program survive. If people feel it's too costly for the benefit, then it's time to work on plans on phasing out Social Security and move to the private market for our retirement solutions, not bringing in more uneducated, untrained people.

 

[Unkotare]

C_Clayton_Jones is obviously an illegal ...

There's that LOSER "logic" again.

 

[Papageorgio]

For conservatives that ‘concern’ is the product of nativist racism, bigotry, and hate, of white grievance politics and racist replacement theory.

That an immigrant is undocumented doesn’t mean he’s ‘illegal.’

What conservatives wrongly attack as ‘illegal’ is in fact consistent with immigration law: migrants, refugees, and asylum seekers lawfully pursuing applications for refugee status.

The government says you are wrong. Once again you prove to be a liar or really stupid.
https://www.dshs.wa.gov/faq/what’s-difference-between-legal-and-undocumented-immigrants

What’s the difference between legal and undocumented immigrants?​

Legal immigrants are foreign-born people legally admitted to the U.S. Undocumented immigrants, also called illegal aliens, are foreign-born people who do not possess a valid visa or other immigration documentation, because they entered the U.S. without inspection, stayed longer than their temporary visa permitted, or otherwise violated the terms under which they were admitted.

 

[Unkotare]

...r barely legal immigrant ....

There is no such thing, loser.

 

[Unkotare]

It wasn't even so much fewer people, it was also better because it was way less diverse. Too much diversity ruined a lot of our country.

When you have a society that looks similar, all speak the same language, all had a basic understanding of customs in America, there were much fewer religions and the ones we did have they were similar, they all had a shared common love for America, and so on. Commonality and familiarity are a breeding ground for comfort and understanding.

Now America has too much diversity and all of the things that brought us together above now are too spread out. We have too many people from too many countries, speaking too many languages, too many religions, too many customs and so on. So now we have a country of people who don't want to conform to America, they want America to conform to them.

Know Nothing nonsense.

 

[Unkotare]

In 1970, you have been living under the Democratic New Deal for 40 years, and life was good.

In 2023, you have been living under Reagan's Great Society for 40 years and the nation is on the verge of civil war.

Life is happier and better for everyone, when Democrats are in charge.

YOU are still not a US citizen, so STFU.