They are at it again, spreading fear and hysteria and promoting lockdowns as a cure

If I told you that it was proven that wearing a mask when in public would have a positive effect on the spread of the virus, would you wear one?

 
See: CDC chief issues stark warning on possible second wave and more lockdowns as global cases top 5 million

5/21/20

”As the world reached 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases Thursday, the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said he can’t guarantee whether a second round of lockdowns is coming as a possible second wave of the virus looms.”

So, instead of offering a common sense and logical approach to a possible second wave ___ protecting those most susceptible to the deadly effects of the virus, namely the elderly, and more specifically those with underlying medical conditions, which account for the vast majority of deaths due to the virus, and allowing the rest of our population to go about its business ___ the evil doers at the CDC promote a remedy which knowingly will cause more harm to the American people and its vital economic base.

Is it not obvious by now we have a Fifth Column movement in the United States whose mission is to weaken and destroy America’s economic base, and make its population totally dependent upon government for its economic needs?

JWK

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ Benjamin Franklin, 1755



OH MY GAWD.......WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!



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Yep, that's what they want you to believe. Problem is, the survival rate is 99%+.

There's not a democrat alive you can trust.

An example Our Fifth Column’s propaganda:



Here are some highlights to know Thursday:




  • ”If social distancing in the U.S. had started two weeks before the time most people began staying at home, it could have prevented a stunning 54,000 deaths and 960,000 cases, researchers have found.”

The above ought to have read:




  • If those most susceptible to the deadly effects of the virus were immediately isolated from the rest of our nation’s population and treated if contaminated with the virus, as the epidemiological findings suggested and was known almost from the begining, it could have prevented untold deaths in the United States while keeping America’s economy intact.



JWK


Our country is infested with a Fifth Column movement at MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists, who work hand in hand with the Democrat Party socialist/communist leadership to undermine and destroy our free market, free enterprise system.
 
See: CDC chief issues stark warning on possible second wave and more lockdowns as global cases top 5 million

5/21/20

”As the world reached 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases Thursday, the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said he can’t guarantee whether a second round of lockdowns is coming as a possible second wave of the virus looms.”

So, instead of offering a common sense and logical approach to a possible second wave ___ protecting those most susceptible to the deadly effects of the virus, namely the elderly, and more specifically those with underlying medical conditions, which account for the vast majority of deaths due to the virus, and allowing the rest of our population to go about its business ___ the evil doers at the CDC promote a remedy which knowingly will cause more harm to the American people and its vital economic base.

Is it not obvious by now we have a Fifth Column movement in the United States whose mission is to weaken and destroy America’s economic base, and make its population totally dependent upon government for its economic needs?

JWK

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ Benjamin Franklin, 1755
The thread premise is ignorant, hyperbolic nonsense and demagoguery.

The issue concerns the spread of the virus by healthy individuals to those vulnerable.

This can be mitigated by healthy individuals following the health and safety guidelines recommended by the CDC.

What’s obvious is this is more whining from the right about the necessary, proper, and Constitutional health and safety guidelines because conservatives perceive such appropriate measures as a threat to Trump’s reelection bid and jeopardizing the GOP’s control of the Senate.
Wrong. Lockdowns are only to prevent overwhelming medical facilities. That has been moot almost since the outset. Quarantines only work before a virus has spread, before an outbreak. The only thing necessary right now is for the vulnerable to protect themselves. Everyone else needs to get back to work.
Democrat states won’t allow that because they need to grant Bill Maher and his Maher-ons their wish of a bad economy to use against trump politically. Totally creepy and cruel.
 
See: CDC chief issues stark warning on possible second wave and more lockdowns as global cases top 5 million

5/21/20

”As the world reached 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases Thursday, the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said he can’t guarantee whether a second round of lockdowns is coming as a possible second wave of the virus looms.”

So, instead of offering a common sense and logical approach to a possible second wave ___ protecting those most susceptible to the deadly effects of the virus, namely the elderly, and more specifically those with underlying medical conditions, which account for the vast majority of deaths due to the virus, and allowing the rest of our population to go about its business ___ the evil doers at the CDC promote a remedy which knowingly will cause more harm to the American people and its vital economic base.

Is it not obvious by now we have a Fifth Column movement in the United States whose mission is to weaken and destroy America’s economic base, and make its population totally dependent upon government for its economic needs?

JWK

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ Benjamin Franklin, 1755
I am sure you would rather just be surprised so you could say, "Well I'll be damned, never saw that coming." Guess we will see if one comes or not and if it does, how it will be handled.
Just keep it away from the nursing homes this time, and it'll be fine.
Basically impossible. Nursing homes are staffed by people who are going to be exposed to the virus much more frequently when social distancing goes away.
SMH Cuomo was putting known infected patients into nursing homes to free up hospitals beds that were never at full capacity.
Thousands died in the nursing homes.
That’s false. Hospitals surged bed availability by around 50% and were well over that during the peak. Keeping any institutionalized patient inpatient would have required an additional surge well beyond anyone’s capabilities.
During the peak they had 1000 beds in a convention center not being used and a military ship that wasn't being used.
Having said that, do you believe that it was a prudent thing to do as to put infected patients into nursing homes
with the aged? Please use some common sense before you answer.
Cuomo just last week ended that practice and even stated that it was a bad idea.

One of the main reasons that the COMFORT wasn't utilized as much as it could have been was because they wouldn't take on any COVID 19 cases, and the screening for a person to be put onboard that ship was quite extensive. The reason it was underutilized was because of the rules they put in place about who could and couldn't be treated onboard.
 
See: CDC chief issues stark warning on possible second wave and more lockdowns as global cases top 5 million

5/21/20

”As the world reached 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases Thursday, the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said he can’t guarantee whether a second round of lockdowns is coming as a possible second wave of the virus looms.”

So, instead of offering a common sense and logical approach to a possible second wave ___ protecting those most susceptible to the deadly effects of the virus, namely the elderly, and more specifically those with underlying medical conditions, which account for the vast majority of deaths due to the virus, and allowing the rest of our population to go about its business ___ the evil doers at the CDC promote a remedy which knowingly will cause more harm to the American people and its vital economic base.

Is it not obvious by now we have a Fifth Column movement in the United States whose mission is to weaken and destroy America’s economic base, and make its population totally dependent upon government for its economic needs?

JWK

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ Benjamin Franklin, 1755
The thread premise is ignorant, hyperbolic nonsense and demagoguery.

The issue concerns the spread of the virus by healthy individuals to those vulnerable.

This can be mitigated by healthy individuals following the health and safety guidelines recommended by the CDC.

What’s obvious is this is more whining from the right about the necessary, proper, and Constitutional health and safety guidelines because conservatives perceive such appropriate measures as a threat to Trump’s reelection bid and jeopardizing the GOP’s control of the Senate.
Wrong. Lockdowns are only to prevent overwhelming medical facilities. That has been moot almost since the outset. Quarantines only work before a virus has spread, before an outbreak. The only thing necessary right now is for the vulnerable to protect themselves. Everyone else needs to get back to work.
Democrat states won’t allow that because they need to grant Bill Maher and his Maher-ons their wish of a bad economy to use against trump politically. Totally creepy and cruel.

You know, that was one of the dumber things that Trump did. He stopped all the traffic coming from China, but did nothing about the people coming from Europe until it was too late.

IMHO, as soon as this thing started, we should have been screening everyone coming into the country, and if not that, at least checking their temps and if they felt any flu symptoms.
 
See: CDC chief issues stark warning on possible second wave and more lockdowns as global cases top 5 million

5/21/20

”As the world reached 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases Thursday, the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said he can’t guarantee whether a second round of lockdowns is coming as a possible second wave of the virus looms.”

So, instead of offering a common sense and logical approach to a possible second wave ___ protecting those most susceptible to the deadly effects of the virus, namely the elderly, and more specifically those with underlying medical conditions, which account for the vast majority of deaths due to the virus, and allowing the rest of our population to go about its business ___ the evil doers at the CDC promote a remedy which knowingly will cause more harm to the American people and its vital economic base.

Is it not obvious by now we have a Fifth Column movement in the United States whose mission is to weaken and destroy America’s economic base, and make its population totally dependent upon government for its economic needs?

JWK

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ Benjamin Franklin, 1755
Yes there will be a second wave as we come out and back into society. This virus will be around until it burns its way through the earth’s population. The 1918 pandemic lasted 2 years.

As far as fear mongering, there are going to be people with agendas taking advantage of the situation. They are going to try to keep us dependent on the government.

What we have to remember when we hear too much BS is the common sense thing to do has already been done. We’ve flattened the curve, shifted our industry into making the medical supplies that we didn’t have and needed, started work on treatments and vaccines, put necessary precautions into place for the general health of the public and now we are going back into the world hopefully a little better prepared. We have to be careful but we also have to get on with life. Let the second and possibly third wave come because it’s not ending any time soon.
 
See: CDC chief issues stark warning on possible second wave and more lockdowns as global cases top 5 million

5/21/20

”As the world reached 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases Thursday, the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said he can’t guarantee whether a second round of lockdowns is coming as a possible second wave of the virus looms.”

So, instead of offering a common sense and logical approach to a possible second wave ___ protecting those most susceptible to the deadly effects of the virus, namely the elderly, and more specifically those with underlying medical conditions, which account for the vast majority of deaths due to the virus, and allowing the rest of our population to go about its business ___ the evil doers at the CDC promote a remedy which knowingly will cause more harm to the American people and its vital economic base.

Is it not obvious by now we have a Fifth Column movement in the United States whose mission is to weaken and destroy America’s economic base, and make its population totally dependent upon government for its economic needs?

JWK

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ Benjamin Franklin, 1755
The thread premise is ignorant, hyperbolic nonsense and demagoguery.

The issue concerns the spread of the virus by healthy individuals to those vulnerable.

This can be mitigated by healthy individuals following the health and safety guidelines recommended by the CDC.

What’s obvious is this is more whining from the right about the necessary, proper, and Constitutional health and safety guidelines because conservatives perceive such appropriate measures as a threat to Trump’s reelection bid and jeopardizing the GOP’s control of the Senate.
Wrong. Lockdowns are only to prevent overwhelming medical facilities. That has been moot almost since the outset. Quarantines only work before a virus has spread, before an outbreak. The only thing necessary right now is for the vulnerable to protect themselves. Everyone else needs to get back to work.
Democrat states won’t allow that because they need to grant Bill Maher and his Maher-ons their wish of a bad economy to use against trump politically. Totally creepy and cruel.

You know, that was one of the dumber things that Trump did. He stopped all the traffic coming from China, but did nothing about the people coming from Europe until it was too late.

IMHO, as soon as this thing started, we should have been screening everyone coming into the country, and if not that, at least checking their temps and if they felt any flu symptoms.
It wasn’t dumb. Only in hindsight which is dishonest.
 
See: CDC chief issues stark warning on possible second wave and more lockdowns as global cases top 5 million

5/21/20

”As the world reached 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases Thursday, the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said he can’t guarantee whether a second round of lockdowns is coming as a possible second wave of the virus looms.”

So, instead of offering a common sense and logical approach to a possible second wave ___ protecting those most susceptible to the deadly effects of the virus, namely the elderly, and more specifically those with underlying medical conditions, which account for the vast majority of deaths due to the virus, and allowing the rest of our population to go about its business ___ the evil doers at the CDC promote a remedy which knowingly will cause more harm to the American people and its vital economic base.

Is it not obvious by now we have a Fifth Column movement in the United States whose mission is to weaken and destroy America’s economic base, and make its population totally dependent upon government for its economic needs?

JWK

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ Benjamin Franklin, 1755
There IS going to be a second wave

This is what has been happening in China since 2013....they are in the 6th wave

I started a thread I believe in March EXACTLY about this...it was closed

 
See: CDC chief issues stark warning on possible second wave and more lockdowns as global cases top 5 million

5/21/20

”As the world reached 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases Thursday, the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said he can’t guarantee whether a second round of lockdowns is coming as a possible second wave of the virus looms.”

So, instead of offering a common sense and logical approach to a possible second wave ___ protecting those most susceptible to the deadly effects of the virus, namely the elderly, and more specifically those with underlying medical conditions, which account for the vast majority of deaths due to the virus, and allowing the rest of our population to go about its business ___ the evil doers at the CDC promote a remedy which knowingly will cause more harm to the American people and its vital economic base.

Is it not obvious by now we have a Fifth Column movement in the United States whose mission is to weaken and destroy America’s economic base, and make its population totally dependent upon government for its economic needs?

JWK

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ Benjamin Franklin, 1755
I am sure you would rather just be surprised so you could say, "Well I'll be damned, never saw that coming." Guess we will see if one comes or not and if it does, how it will be handled.
Just keep it away from the nursing homes this time, and it'll be fine.
Basically impossible. Nursing homes are staffed by people who are going to be exposed to the virus much more frequently when social distancing goes away.
SMH Cuomo was putting known infected patients into nursing homes to free up hospitals beds that were never at full capacity.
Thousands died in the nursing homes.
That’s false. Hospitals surged bed availability by around 50% and were well over that during the peak. Keeping any institutionalized patient inpatient would have required an additional surge well beyond anyone’s capabilities.
During the peak they had 1000 beds in a convention center not being used and a military ship that wasn't being used.
Having said that, do you believe that it was a prudent thing to do as to put infected patients into nursing homes
with the aged? Please use some common sense before you answer.
Cuomo just last week ended that practice and even stated that it was a bad idea.

One of the main reasons that the COMFORT wasn't utilized as much as it could have been was because they wouldn't take on any COVID 19 cases, and the screening for a person to be put onboard that ship was quite extensive. The reason it was underutilized was because of the rules they put in place about who could and couldn't be treated onboard.
How about the convention center beds? Again, hardly used.
 
Grocery stores running amok and flexing their muscles. Giant should learn how to get toilet paper before they bullshit mark the floors with one way arrows and have everybody spraying everything. Had a broom pusher tell me my mask was on improperly. I asked him to call security. A snowflake muttering followed.
 
See: CDC chief issues stark warning on possible second wave and more lockdowns as global cases top 5 million

5/21/20

”As the world reached 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases Thursday, the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said he can’t guarantee whether a second round of lockdowns is coming as a possible second wave of the virus looms.”

So, instead of offering a common sense and logical approach to a possible second wave ___ protecting those most susceptible to the deadly effects of the virus, namely the elderly, and more specifically those with underlying medical conditions, which account for the vast majority of deaths due to the virus, and allowing the rest of our population to go about its business ___ the evil doers at the CDC promote a remedy which knowingly will cause more harm to the American people and its vital economic base.

Is it not obvious by now we have a Fifth Column movement in the United States whose mission is to weaken and destroy America’s economic base, and make its population totally dependent upon government for its economic needs?

JWK

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ Benjamin Franklin, 1755



OH MY GAWD.......WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!



giphy.gif

source.gif
Yep, that's what they want you to believe. Problem is, the survival rate is 99%+.

There's not a democrat alive you can trust.

SEE:
‘The Data Is In — Stop The Panic And End The Total Isolation’: Fmr. Stanford Chief Of Neuroradiology Discusses Viral Column



Fact 1: The overwhelming majority of people do not have any significant risk of dying from COVID-19.

Fact 2: Protecting older, at-risk people eliminates hospital overcrowding.

Fact 3: Vital population immunity is prevented by total isolation policies, prolonging the problem.

Fact 4: People are dying because other medical care is not getting done due to hypothetical projections.

Fact 5: We have a clearly defined population at risk who can be protected with targeted measures.

JWK

Our country is infested with a Fifth Column movement at MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists, who work hand in hand with the Democrat Party socialist/communist leadership to undermine and destroy our free market, free enterprise system.
 
See: CDC chief issues stark warning on possible second wave and more lockdowns as global cases top 5 million

5/21/20

”As the world reached 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases Thursday, the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said he can’t guarantee whether a second round of lockdowns is coming as a possible second wave of the virus looms.”

So, instead of offering a common sense and logical approach to a possible second wave ___ protecting those most susceptible to the deadly effects of the virus, namely the elderly, and more specifically those with underlying medical conditions, which account for the vast majority of deaths due to the virus, and allowing the rest of our population to go about its business ___ the evil doers at the CDC promote a remedy which knowingly will cause more harm to the American people and its vital economic base.

Is it not obvious by now we have a Fifth Column movement in the United States whose mission is to weaken and destroy America’s economic base, and make its population totally dependent upon government for its economic needs?

JWK

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ Benjamin Franklin, 1755
There IS going to be a second wave

This is what has been happening in China since 2013....they are in the 6th wave

I started a thread I believe in March EXACTLY about this...it was closed



SARS-CoV-2 and influenza virus co-infection

FYI...If you look at the web address from the cdc link
you'll notice nc after www

This was also in the web address on PRC and China cdc
BEFORE we knew it as novel coronavirus and was VPUE

Always has struck me as odd
 
Lockdowns and mitigation were never meant as a cure for C-19. They have always been meant as tools for reducing the spread of C-19 and preventing unnecessary deaths. The debate is about defining "Acceptable Casualties" and what sacrifices and costs should be incurred for keeping those casualties as minimal as possible.

The lockdown was the flatten the curve as to not overwhelm our medical infrastructure.

Period.

I thought we have discussed this a million times since March.

Christ you liberals have the memories of a goldfish.
 
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Of course there is the possibility and likelihood of a second wave.

Once again, why do people have such fucking short memories?
 
Lockdowns and mitigation were never meant as a cure for C-19. They have always been meant as tools for reducing the spread of C-19 and preventing unnecessary deaths. The debate is about defining "Acceptable Casualties" and what sacrifices and costs should be incurred for keeping those casualties as minimal as possible.

The lockdown was the flatten the curve as to not overwhelm our medical infrastructure.

Period.

I thought we have discussed this a million times since March.

Christ you liberals have the memories of a goldfish.


Why are you insulting goldfish?

JWK

Our country is infested with a Fifth Column movement at MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists, who work hand in hand with the Democrat Party socialist/communist leadership to undermine and destroy our free market, free enterprise system.
 
This country would never have happened if everyone in 1776 was like the pussyfied Democrats today.

Try to make the distinction between the communist/socialist democrat party leadership and the weak-minded which the play like a fiddle.

JWK

Our country is infested with a Fifth Column movement at MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists, who work hand in hand with the Democrat Party socialist/communist leadership to undermine and destroy our free market, free enterprise system.
 
Fauci cleverly has changed his tune.


Now that a large segment of our nation's population has figured out Fauci's approach was irrational and caused more harm than good, he is trying to con us again by cleverly embracing what was known from the beginning.

There is something very suspicious about Fauci’s original advice, and even more suspicious when we consider our Fifth Column Media embraced Fauci’s illogical approach, and the fear and hysteria he created when subtilty attacking by innuendo anyone who dared to question his irrational advice.

If the object was to limit the death rate from the virus, and it was known almost from the beginning that the vast majority of deaths due to COVID-19 were among the elderly, and more specifically, those with underlying medical conditions such as heart disease, diabetes, chronic lung disease, etc., the obvious course of action was to focus on and protect the susceptible group while allowing the rest of our nation’s population to go about its business. Instead, Fauci constantly focused on the increase in the number of reported cases instead of the death rate being among an identifiable group which ought to have been the focus, and how to protect them.

And now he is trying to con us again, even after the devastating destruction he has caused by offering a totally irrational and suicidal approach to deal with the virus.

JWK

Our country is infested with a Fifth Column movement at MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists, who work hand in hand with the Democrat Party socialist/communist leadership to undermine and destroy our free market, free enterprise system.
 
Dr. Birx now admits what thinking people knew almost from the beginning, but ignored when recommending a shelter in place and shutdown of American’s economy.

See: Places of worship ‘may not be safe’ for some, Birx says 1

05/24/2020

”Places of worship “may not be safe for those with preexisting conditions” despite orders from President Donald Trump that they be allowed to reopen immediately, White House coronavirus coordinator Deborah Birx said Sunday.”

“Although it may be safe for some to go to churches and social distance, it may not be safe for those with preexisting conditions,” Birx told Chris Wallace on "Fox News Sunday.” “That’s why in ‘phase one’ and ‘phase two,’ we’ve asked for those individuals with vulnerabilities to really ensure that they are protected and sheltering in place while we open up America.”


Well, isn’t this peachy? Now that thinking Americans across the country have figured out those most susceptible to the deadly effect of the virus is limited to an identifiable segment of the population and are protesting the suicidal approach first recommended by Dr. Birx and her sidekick Fauci, Birx now tells us that those individuals with vulnerabilities should be protected and should be the group that shelters “in place while we open up America."

The problem is, the advice these two have given us has already led to unnecessary and untold deaths in the United States, and irreparable damage to our economy. But, instead of admitting they offered an irrational and suicidal approach to deal with the virus at the beginning, they now pretend nothing has happened on their behalf and continue to project themselves as our saviors.

These two monsters need to hide their faces in shame and ask for forgiveness for the suicidal path they recommended from the beginning.

JWK
 

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