There's only one way votes should be counted.

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Congress uses voter ID, because it is important each vote be legitimate.

People oppose voter ID laws because it almost certainly prevents far more legitimate votes than illegitimate ones and would you look at who mostly gets wrongly turned away.

 

[saveliberty]

Congress sees the benefit.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Congress sees the benefit.

Is that a new standard for your personal approval?

Congress "sees the benefits" of a lot of things.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Congress uses voter ID, because it is important each vote be legitimate.

People oppose voter ID laws because it almost certainly prevents far more legitimate votes than illegitimate ones and would you look at who mostly gets wrongly turned away.

Explain how is that possible.

 

[konradv]

Sounds like another way to suppress the vote. Leave it to the wingnuts to try and make it hard for everyone to exercise the right to vote. Thumbs down on this stinker.

 

[saveliberty]

Congress sees the benefit.

Is that a new standard for your personal approval?

Congress "sees the benefits" of a lot of things.

It follows logically that if Congress values accurate voting in Congress, it should also value accurate count in getting them TO Congress.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Congress uses voter ID, because it is important each vote be legitimate.

People oppose voter ID laws because it almost certainly prevents far more legitimate votes than illegitimate ones and would you look at who mostly gets wrongly turned away.

People also oppose voter ID laws because they know they're unwarranted and devoid of merit.

 

[occupied]

Congress sees the benefit.

I

Congress uses voter ID, because it is important each vote be legitimate.

People oppose voter ID laws because it almost certainly prevents far more legitimate votes than illegitimate ones and would you look at who mostly gets wrongly turned away.

Explain how is that possible.

You are not stupid, you know the real purpose of the ID laws is suppression, only in your mind is voter fraud a widespread problem when it is just the excuse.

 

[saveliberty]

Congress uses voter ID, because it is important each vote be legitimate.

People oppose voter ID laws because it almost certainly prevents far more legitimate votes than illegitimate ones and would you look at who mostly gets wrongly turned away.

People also oppose voter ID laws because they know they're unwarranted and devoid of merit.

Making each vote reflect that person's intent and actual vote, without the specter of voting fraud is definitely merited. Again, Congress sees the merit too.

 

[occupied]

Congress uses voter ID, because it is important each vote be legitimate.

People oppose voter ID laws because it almost certainly prevents far more legitimate votes than illegitimate ones and would you look at who mostly gets wrongly turned away.

People also oppose voter ID laws because they know they're unwarranted and devoid of merit.

Yes that too. Not nearly enough cases to make it the dire emergency to our voting process that republicans make it out to be.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The OP's contempt for the fundamental right to vote is noted, along with those foolish enough to agree with him.

 

[saveliberty]

Congress sees the benefit.

I

Congress uses voter ID, because it is important each vote be legitimate.

People oppose voter ID laws because it almost certainly prevents far more legitimate votes than illegitimate ones and would you look at who mostly gets wrongly turned away.

Explain how is that possible.

You are not stupid, you know the real purpose of the ID laws is suppression, only in your mind is voter fraud a widespread problem when it is just the excuse.

How many fraud votes are acceptable then?

 

[saveliberty]

The OP's contempt for the fundamental right to vote is noted, along with those foolish enough to agree with him.

The right is one person, one vote.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Congress sees the benefit.

Is that a new standard for your personal approval?

Congress "sees the benefits" of a lot of things.

It follows logically that if Congress values accurate voting in Congress, it should also value accurate count in getting them TO Congress.

Do you really not see any difference between Congressional votes that have less than 500 voters total and public elections in this country?

The lack of understanding that scale changes things is a recurring problem with Conservatives - it's the same mindset that leads to thinking international macroeconomics are the same as balancing your household checkbook, or that individual quarantine procedures are the same as quarantining entire countries.

 

[occupied]

Congress uses voter ID, because it is important each vote be legitimate.

People oppose voter ID laws because it almost certainly prevents far more legitimate votes than illegitimate ones and would you look at who mostly gets wrongly turned away.

People also oppose voter ID laws because they know they're unwarranted and devoid of merit.

Making each vote reflect that person's intent and actual vote, without the specter of voting fraud is definitely merited. Again, Congress sees the merit too.

Far more cases of election tampering in America than voter fraud and yet for some reason you cannot get people who are so concerned about pushing the ID issue to even talk about it.

 

[saveliberty]

Congress sees the benefit.

Is that a new standard for your personal approval?

Congress "sees the benefits" of a lot of things.

It follows logically that if Congress values accurate voting in Congress, it should also value accurate count in getting them TO Congress.

Do you really not see any difference between Congressional votes that have less than 500 voters total and public elections in this country?

The lack of understanding that scale changes things is a recurring problem with Conservatives - it's the same mindset that leads to thinking international macroeconomics are the same as balancing your household checkbook, or that individual quarantine procedures are the same as quarantining entire countries.

Doesn't seem to be a problem issuing social security cards. Military IDs. Driver's licenses...

 

[saveliberty]

Congress uses voter ID, because it is important each vote be legitimate.

People oppose voter ID laws because it almost certainly prevents far more legitimate votes than illegitimate ones and would you look at who mostly gets wrongly turned away.

People also oppose voter ID laws because they know they're unwarranted and devoid of merit.

Making each vote reflect that person's intent and actual vote, without the specter of voting fraud is definitely merited. Again, Congress sees the merit too.

Far more cases of election tampering in America than voter fraud and yet for some reason you cannot get people who are so concerned about pushing the ID issue to even talk about it.

Wouldn't the ID system also help the tampering issue to a degree?

 

[saveliberty]

Democrats don't seem to answer the question how much fraud is okay?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Congress uses voter ID, because it is important each vote be legitimate.

People oppose voter ID laws because it almost certainly prevents far more legitimate votes than illegitimate ones and would you look at who mostly gets wrongly turned away.

People also oppose voter ID laws because they know they're unwarranted and devoid of merit.

Making each vote reflect that person's intent and actual vote, without the specter of voting fraud is definitely merited. Again, Congress sees the merit too.

Far more cases of election tampering in America than voter fraud and yet for some reason you cannot get people who are so concerned about pushing the ID issue to even talk about it.

Wouldn't the ID system also help the tampering issue to a degree?

How would it?

Voter ID is an incredibly expensive solution to a problem that simply doesn't exist.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Democrats don't seem to answer the question how much fraud is okay?

How many innocent people in prison is "okay"?

How much collateral damage is "okay"?

We could play this game all day.

 

[occupied]

Congress sees the benefit.

Is that a new standard for your personal approval?

Congress "sees the benefits" of a lot of things.

It follows logically that if Congress values accurate voting in Congress, it should also value accurate count in getting them TO Congress.

Do you really not see any difference between Congressional votes that have less than 500 voters total and public elections in this country?

The lack of understanding that scale changes things is a recurring problem with Conservatives - it's the same mindset that leads to thinking international macroeconomics are the same as balancing your household checkbook, or that individual quarantine procedures are the same as quarantining entire countries.

Good point, a single fraudulent vote in congress would be equal to hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes, an almost ridiculous impossibility.