There Isn't Anti-Semitism

[Annie]

Anyone see a pattern here?

http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/mideastdispatches/archives/000625.html

Venezuelan President Chavez: “The descendants of the Christ-killers” control the world
January 02, 2006

* Chavez’s Christmas speech: Jews own all the gold and water, the “good lands” and the petrol
* UK chief rabbi: A “tsunami of anti-Semitism” threatens parts of world



CONTENTS

1. Chavez makes anti-Semitic Christmas speech
2. UK chief rabbi fears a “tsunami of anti-Semitism” across much of the world
3. BBC: Israeli roadblocks would stop Jesus’ parents reaching Bethlehem
4. Israeli readers’ reaction to the BBC
5. Norway’s Israel boycott
6. London mayor Livingstone hosts Chanukah event
7. “Chief Rabbi warns of anti-Semitic ‘tsunami’” (Sunday Telegraph, Jan. 1, 2006)
8. “BBC: Jesus’ parents would get stuck in roadblock” (Ynetnews, Dec. 25, 2005)
9. “Norway: Parliament shuns Israeli products” (Ynetnews, Dec. 22, 2005)
10. “Mayor hosts Chanukah event” (London Jewish News, Dec. 29, 2005)



[Note by Tom Gross]

CHAVEZ MAKES ANTI-SEMITIC CHRISTMAS SPEECH

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez announced in a Christmas speech that “the descendants of those who crucified Christ” have appropriated the riches of the world.

Speaking at a rehabilitation center on December 24, the controversial left-wing president said “the descendants of those who crucified Christ... have taken ownership of the riches of the world, a minority has taken ownership of the gold of the world, the silver, the minerals, water, the good lands, petrol, well, the riches, and they have concentrated the riches in a small number of hands.”

For Spanish speakers on this list, the full speech can be found at
www.gobiernoenlinea.gob.ve/docMgr/s...ta_Centro_Manantial_de_los_suenos24122005.pdf (The remarks about Jews are on page 18.)

UK CHIEF RABBI FEARS A “TSUNAMI OF ANTI-SEMITISM” ACROSS MUCH OF WORLD

In an interview with BBC Radio yesterday to mark the Christian New Year, Britain’s normally mild-mannered chief rabbi, Jonathan Sacks, warned that a “tsunami of anti-Semitism” is threatening to engulf many parts of the world. Dr Sacks said he was “very scared” by the rise in anti-Jewish feeling, which had led to Holocaust denial, attacks on synagogues and a boycott of Jewish groups on university campuses.

Among British concerns, he cited the fact that since 2002, Jewish student groups on 17 British campuses have faced the threat of expulsion from fellow students who claim to merely be anti-Israeli rather than anti-Semitic. Dr Sacks said attempts to “silence and even ban” Jewish student groups were “quite extraordinary” because most of Britain’s 350,000 Jews regarded themselves primarily as “British citizens”.

Sacks added: “If, God forbid, one could imagine a world in which the state of Israel did not exist and, I repeat, God forbid, then not one of the world’s conflicts would be changed by one millimeter – there would still be conflict in Chechnya, in Ossetia, in Indonesia, in the Philippines. So to make this [Israeli-Palestinian] conflict – where the two sides have worked now for 12 years in a process of peace – the epicenter of global politics is not merely wrong … but it is also quite troubling.”

BBC: JESUS’ PARENTS WOULD GET STUCK IN ISRAELI ROADBLOCK

In a broadcast just before Christmas, the BBC claimed that the historical trip from Nazareth to Bethlehem made by Jesus’ parents, Joseph and Mary, would have been rendered impossible today, due to Israeli army restrictions.

Israel’s highest circulation newspaper, Yediot Ahronot, said that the report by BBC correspondent Matthew Price brought the already shaky relations between the BBC and Israel to “a new low.”

An Israeli Foreign Ministry official said: “This is one of the most dreadful stories ever broadcasted by the BBC, adding that they plan to officially protest the report to the channel’s heads.”

A previous dispatch on this list titled BBC: How the Israelis have stolen Christmas (March 4, 2003), illustrated how in December 2002, BBC correspondent Orla Guerin reported from Bethlehem on how “the Israelis have stolen Christmas”. In her report there was no mention of the Palestinian terrorists who had occupied the Church of the Nativity earlier that month and no context given to Israel’s actions.

ISRAELI READERS’ REACTION TO THE BBC

The story last week about Jesus’ parents generated many comments made by readers to Yediot Ahronot. Here are some of them:

“What the BBC doesn’t tell us is that Jesus’ parents would have been murdered by Palestinian groups just like any Jews would have if they went into PA-occupied areas.”

“Jesus’s parents would have been kicked out of Bethlehem as illegal Jewish settlers. And Jesus would never have been born there.”

“The BBC does this every Christmas… yammering on about how bad Israel is and how they can’t go and worship Jesus. Wait until Hamas take over Bethlehem, then we’ll see how much they truly miss Bethlehem.”

“Why is the BBC tolerated in Israel? Is there some reason why the BBC and its correspondents are accredited and allowed to work in Israel? The damage they do is enormous. They need to be kicked out and the reasons for their expulsion need to be widely publicized. Israel has no obligation to cooperate in anti-Israel propaganda. This is not freedom of the press. A standard of fairness should be applied to all foreign media working in Israel as part of the accreditation process.”

For more on the BBC see Living in a Bubble: The BBC’s very own Mideast foreign policy.

NORWAY’S ISRAEL BOYCOTT

Three days before Christmas, the Norwegian Provincial Government of Sor-Trondelag voted to boycott Israeli products in protest at “Israel’s oppression of Palestinians.”

The boycott is in violation of the freedom of commerce provisions of the World Trade Organization.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center issued a statement saying the resolution to boycott Israeli products was “an act of anti-Semitism in the spirit of Hitler’s ‘Don’t buy from Jews’ campaign of the 1930s.”

The Anti-Defamation League condemned the ruling, saying the “decision only serves to exacerbate tensions and ill-will.”

Norway had a particularly shameful collaborationist history against Jews in the past under its own pro-Nazi leader, Vidkun Quisling.

For more on Norway please see the dispatch (1) Norway school bans Star of David (2) Norwegian says she infiltrated the Mossad (Oct. 25, 2005).

KEN LIVINGSTONE HOSTS CHANUKAH EVENT

Several politicians have expressed cynicism over London Mayor Ken Livingstone’s late decision to host a menorah-lighting ceremony at London’s City Hall. The mayor said he hoped the event would become an annual one to mark the importance of the Jewish community to London.

But a number of observers questioned Livingstone’s motives given his ongoing tribunal over his “Nazi slur” row. Councillor Brian Gordon said: “After all the hostility Livingstone has shown towards Israel and the Jewish community his sudden desire to celebrate Chanukah sounds to me like an absolute farce.”

Liverpool MP Louise Ellman said of her party colleague: “I welcome this recognition of Chanukah but it is no substitute for making a proper apology for offence he has given previously.”

The final article below, on this subject, is a follow up to a number of recent dispatches on Livingstone. The last of which was London Mayor Ken Livingstone may be Jewish: ‘I could be a self-hater, couldn’t I?’ (Nov. 30, 2005).

I attach four articles below.

-- Tom Gross

 

[dilloduck]

Anyone see a pattern here?

http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/mideastdispatches/archives/000625.html

jews get attacked and attackers solicit Christian help-----jews defend themselves ??

 

[archangel]

No...just the ranting of the BBC and Hugo...and the Tsunami would be more :huh: akin to the ACLU attack on Christianity...in my humble opinion mind ya! and thats my disclaimer.

 

[Annie]

You guys need to consult more.

 

[dilloduck]

You guys need to consult more.

Why dont you just tell us the pattern?

 

[Annie]

Why dont you just tell us the pattern?

Perhaps because you can use the excercise?

 

[dilloduck]

Perhaps because you can use the excercise?

I'm in tip top shape, thank you. Guess the "pattern" is something only you can see.

 

[Annie]

I'm in tip top shape, thank you. Guess the "pattern" is something only you can see.

Yeah, that's it.

 

[Annie]

Why dont you just tell us the pattern?

Hitler, Mussolini anyone. Perhaps you neo-Nazis would enjoy more David Dukes? Go for it Dillo and Co.

 

[dilloduck]

Hitler, Mussolini anyone. Perhaps you neo-Nazis would enjoy more David Dukes? Go for it Dillo and Co.

Ahhhh--anti-semitism. Now I see it---along with anti-Americanism, anti-Christianity, anti-conservatism, anti-Catholism, anti-communism, anti-islamism, anti-terrorism, anti-chauvinism, anti-palestinians etc.

Yes, unfortunately the are haters everywhere--and they all feel so justified while doing it too.

 

[Annie]

Ahhhh--anti-semitism. Now I see it---along with anti-Americanism, anti-Christianity, anti-conservatism, anti-Catholism, anti-communism, anti-islamism, anti-terrorism, anti-chauvinism, anti-palestinians etc.

Yes, unfortunately the are haters everywhere--and they all feel so justified while doing it too.

Again, you would know, issues close to your heart.

 

[dilloduck]

Again, you would know, issues close to your heart.

You mean to tell me that you are really trying to convince us that anti-semitism is real? Who here has ever said it doesn't exist?

 

[IIIX]

I think this issue is very delicate. On one hand, some Israelis like to pretend that as they are jews, any action commited against Israel is an antisemite action. On the other hand, many antisemites like to say that they are merely criticizing a state, and not being racists.

In this particular case I find the accusation against Norway to be unfair, especially the reference to nazism: Norway never was antisemite. There's a joke going like "there isn't much racism in [insert one state of the center of the USA]: that's too much energy wasted on 12 people". The same goes for Norway; its collaboration with the nazis had other reasons than antisemitism.

However, Chavez is going to have troubles justifying himself on this one.

The rabbi who says that Israel isn't geopolitically important is clearly wrong. The Israelo-Palestinian conflict is essential. It is one of the main events, if not THE event that created islamic terrorism as we know it, and created a muslim/arab identity.
Muslim populations around the world identify themselves to the palestinians - in southern Asia, Chechnya, Iraq - and call themselves victims. It's these muslims that are today's antisemites, not the small minority of white neo-nazis, or even the misguided ultra-leftists anti-imperialists. For many of them, Jews, Israelis, that's the same: the enemy.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

The Israelo-Palestinian conflict is essential. It is one of the main events, if not THE event that created islamic terrorism as we know it, and created a muslim/arab identity.

There was a muslim arab identity before israel. Islam has always been an intolerant violent religion. You are very wrong with both these assertions.

 

[IIIX]

There was a muslim arab identity before israel. Islam has always been an intolerant violent religion. You are very wrong with both these assertions.

It allowed it to grow to proportions not reached since a very long time ago. Panarabism is an idea that will not be realized any time soon, but Israel helped arabs feel like one block. Perhaps mondialisation played a role, too.


About Islam: by today's standarts, you're right. However, in the beginning of the previous millenium, Islam was definitely less violent and intolerant than Christianism. Since that time, christianism evolved, and Islam did not .

 

[rtwngAvngr]

It allowed it to grow to proportions not reached since a very long time ago. Panarabism is an idea that will not be realized any time soon, but Israel helped arabs feel like one block. Perhaps mondialisation played a role, too.


About Islam: by today's standarts, you're right. However, in the beginning of the previous millenium, Islam was definitely less violent and intolerant than Christianism. Since that time, christianism evolved, and Islam did not .

Yes. Let's just give them what they want. Maybe they will stop beheading innocent people. Have you forgotten how horribly appeasement failed you with Hitler? You're smarter that this. Why can' you learn from history?