There Is No al Qaeda In Iraq

[The Rabbi]

They weren't there until after George Dumbya Boooosh, the Cross Eyed War Monkey, stupidly invaded Iraq, killing thousands needlessly, wasting trillions, and giving iraq a pro-Iran government.

You'd think the 2006 loss of Congress, and the two Presidential losses in 2008 and 2012 would have conservatives learning a lesson from their Iraq mistake, but that's obviously not what's happened. Conservatives remain oafishly belligerent and clearly haven't learned a thing.

Saddam was a 20 year state sponsor of terrorism all over the world.
Now go finish your beer.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Christmas in Iraq...

Christmas Day bombings in Iraq's capital kill 37
December 25, 2013 - — Militants in Iraq targeted Christians in three separate Christmas Day bombings in Baghdad, killing at least 37 people, officials said Wednesday.


And the far left propaganda continues to roll on.

Yeah, propaganda.

"They will welcome us a liberators." The Dick, February 2003

I didn't include any figures for Iraqi civilians deaths, wounded or displacements. But they don't count to idiots like you. They're not "'Muricans".

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Right?

Al-Qaeda Live Tweet Attack On Police Station, Mall In Kirkuk, Iraq, Up To 70 Injured

Al Qaeda had a twitter account live tweeting the attack. We will not be linking to the account to give them any publicity. Despite requests to shut down the account, Twitter has not deleted the account as of this writing. The attack in the area is still ongoing and they are still tweeting. They are apparently holed up in the shopping mall.

There is video of the part of the attack. Warning in advance for graphic nature of violence.The camera crew is on the run with the police officers defending the police station.

(Edge: I'm not going to post it here.)

Via Daily Star:

Insurgents attack police headquarters in Iraq | News , Middle East | THE DAILY STAR

Kurdish anti-terror forces deployed in Kirkuk a few hours ago to eliminate Al Qaeda terrorists who had overrun a mall

BAGHDAD: Iraqi authorities say insurgents have attacked a security headquarters in a northern city, killing four people.

Police officials say the assault on Wednesday took place when a car bomb exploded at the gate of the Police Intelligence Department in the religiously-mixed city of Kirkuk. Later, suicide bomber entered the building and set off his explosive belt among police members.

A gunbattle between attackers and security forces erupted immediately after the bombings, said police. They said another 46 people were wounded.

Hospital officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to media, confirmed the casualty figure.

Wednesday’s attack came only one day after a similar assault on a mayor’s office in the Sunni town of Tarmiyah that left 10 people dead.

Edge:

Yeah, this would belong in another forum except for the fact that libs keep telling us how there's no al Qaeda in Iraq. Now or ever.

Funny. I bet there's some Kurds that might not agree

They weren't there until after George Dumbya Boooosh, the Cross Eyed War Monkey, stupidly invaded Iraq, killing thousands needlessly, wasting trillions, and giving iraq a pro-Iran government.

You'd think the 2006 loss of Congress, and the two Presidential losses in 2008 and 2012 would have conservatives learning a lesson from their Iraq mistake, but that's obviously not what's happened. Conservatives remain oafishly belligerent and clearly haven't learned a thing.

Sorry, but removing Saddam was not a bad thing, it was good for the world.

It was also good for Bush, 18 months after Saddam was removed from power, the American people re-elected George Bush with the first majority in the popular vote since 1988!

Yes, based on the lie that he and Cheney perpetuated about preventing another attack on American soil. They based their campaign on nothing more than fear.

There are plenty of dictators in Africa but they don't have any oil.

 

[zeke]

Yeah, propaganda.

"They will welcome us a liberators." The Dick, February 2003

I didn't include any figures for Iraqi civilians deaths, wounded or displacements. But they don't count to idiots like you. They're not "'Muricans".

Nah, these super lovers if Iraq will not talk about the people that were killed. Those numbers are real and verifiable.

No, they would rather talk about their fantasy number of "lives" saved.

And how mean Saddam was. Of course when Saddam was OUR mean man, he was ok.

Nah the super lovers of Iraq don't mind that we tax payers of the USA spent trillions of money in Iraq. That was mostly wasted or used to bribe people.

It's the poor people here in this country that really piss off the Iraq lovers. They wouldn't spend a dime on the poor people here. Would rather send that money to Iraq.

Maybe it's a "guilt" thing they are trying to resolve.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Nah, these super lovers if Iraq will not talk about the people that were killed. Those numbers are real and verifiable.

No, they would rather talk about their fantasy number of "lives" saved.

And how mean Saddam was. Of course when Saddam was OUR mean man, he was ok.

Nah the super lovers of Iraq don't mind that we tax payers of the USA spent trillions of money in Iraq. That was mostly wasted or used to bribe people.

It's the poor people here in this country that really piss off the Iraq lovers. They wouldn't spend a dime on the poor people here. Would rather send that money to Iraq.

Maybe it's a "guilt" thing they are trying to resolve.

Feelings of guilt would first require a conscience. Your average far right wing idiot doesn't have one of those.

 

[The Rabbi]

Feelings of guilt would first require a conscience. Your average far right wing idiot doesn't have one of those.

I recall all the sympathy the left showed for Kurds slaughtered by Saddam and his chemical weapons. Also the who-knows-how many Iraqis killed by the regime.
Don't lecture anyone about sympathy, you sociopath.

 

[Kosh]

Yeah, propaganda.

"They will welcome us a liberators." The Dick, February 2003

I didn't include any figures for Iraqi civilians deaths, wounded or displacements. But they don't count to idiots like you. They're not "'Muricans".

Even more far left propaganda.

 

[Kosh]

Feelings of guilt would first require a conscience. Your average far right wing idiot doesn't have one of those.

1) I did not post this so please edit your post to reflect that
2) Even more far left religious dogma.

 

[waltky]

Uncle Ferd says we bugged-out too soon...

7,818 Iraqi Civilians Killed in 2013--Highest Death Toll in Years
January 1, 2014 - — The United Nations said Wednesday that violence claimed the lives of 7,818 civilians in Iraq in 2013, the highest annual death toll in years.

Over eight months of escalated violence has sparked fears that the country may be returning to the widespread bloodshed of 2004-2007 that saw tens of thousands killed each year. Death tolls dipped following a U.S. troop surge and an alliance of Sunni militias with U.S. forces against al-Qaida, but soaring sectarian distrust appears to be allowing the extremist network to rebuild.

Violence spiked in April after the Shiite-led government staged a deadly crackdown on a Sunni protest camp. Iraq's al-Qaida branch has fed on Sunni discontent and on the civil war in neighboring Syria, in which mostly Sunni rebels fight a government whose base is a Shiite offshoot sect. It has targeted civilians, particularly in Shiite areas of Baghdad, with waves of co-ordinated car bombings and other deadly attacks.

The U.N. figures gave a total of 759 people killed in December alone, including 661 civilians and 98 members of the security forces. Another 1,345 were wounded, the statement said. The U.N.'s monthly figures for both civilians and security forces over the year totaled 8,868. Mission chief Nickolay Mladenov called on Iraqis to take the necessary steps to stem violence. "This is a sad and terrible record which confirms once again the urgent need for the Iraqi authorities to address the roots of violence to curb this infernal circle," Mladenov was quoted in the statement as saying. The insurgency appears to have capitalized on a protest movement by Sunnis angered at what they consider second-class treatment, and the government's crackdown on it.

On Wednesday, al-Qaida gunmen fanned out in the streets of towns in the volatile western province of Anbar amid Sunni anger over the arrest of a prominent Sunni lawmaker and the dismantlement of a year-long sit-in the provincial capital Ramadi in recent days. A provincial spokesman told The Associated Press that al-Qaida fighters brandished their weapons in the streets of Ramadi and other towns, taking over police stations and military posts after security forces left. Dhari al-Rishawi said in the former insurgent stronghold of Fallujah, gunmen broke into the main police station, setting free dozens of inmates and taking weapons.

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[georgephillip]

Uncle Ferd says we bugged-out too soon...

7,818 Iraqi Civilians Killed in 2013--Highest Death Toll in Years
January 1, 2014 - — The United Nations said Wednesday that violence claimed the lives of 7,818 civilians in Iraq in 2013, the highest annual death toll in years.

Over eight months of escalated violence has sparked fears that the country may be returning to the widespread bloodshed of 2004-2007 that saw tens of thousands killed each year. Death tolls dipped following a U.S. troop surge and an alliance of Sunni militias with U.S. forces against al-Qaida, but soaring sectarian distrust appears to be allowing the extremist network to rebuild.

Violence spiked in April after the Shiite-led government staged a deadly crackdown on a Sunni protest camp. Iraq's al-Qaida branch has fed on Sunni discontent and on the civil war in neighboring Syria, in which mostly Sunni rebels fight a government whose base is a Shiite offshoot sect. It has targeted civilians, particularly in Shiite areas of Baghdad, with waves of co-ordinated car bombings and other deadly attacks.

The U.N. figures gave a total of 759 people killed in December alone, including 661 civilians and 98 members of the security forces. Another 1,345 were wounded, the statement said. The U.N.'s monthly figures for both civilians and security forces over the year totaled 8,868. Mission chief Nickolay Mladenov called on Iraqis to take the necessary steps to stem violence. "This is a sad and terrible record which confirms once again the urgent need for the Iraqi authorities to address the roots of violence to curb this infernal circle," Mladenov was quoted in the statement as saying. The insurgency appears to have capitalized on a protest movement by Sunnis angered at what they consider second-class treatment, and the government's crackdown on it.

On Wednesday, al-Qaida gunmen fanned out in the streets of towns in the volatile western province of Anbar amid Sunni anger over the arrest of a prominent Sunni lawmaker and the dismantlement of a year-long sit-in the provincial capital Ramadi in recent days. A provincial spokesman told The Associated Press that al-Qaida fighters brandished their weapons in the streets of Ramadi and other towns, taking over police stations and military posts after security forces left. Dhari al-Rishawi said in the former insurgent stronghold of Fallujah, gunmen broke into the main police station, setting free dozens of inmates and taking weapons.

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Do you and Ferd think fewer Iraqis would have died last year if we still occupied their country?

 

[U2Edge]

They weren't there until after George Dumbya Boooosh, the Cross Eyed War Monkey, stupidly invaded Iraq, killing thousands needlessly, wasting trillions, and giving iraq a pro-Iran government.

You'd think the 2006 loss of Congress, and the two Presidential losses in 2008 and 2012 would have conservatives learning a lesson from their Iraq mistake, but that's obviously not what's happened. Conservatives remain oafishly belligerent and clearly haven't learned a thing.

Sorry, but removing Saddam was not a bad thing, it was good for the world.

It was also good for Bush, 18 months after Saddam was removed from power, the American people re-elected George Bush with the first majority in the popular vote since 1988!

Yes, based on the lie that he and Cheney perpetuated about preventing another attack on American soil. They based their campaign on nothing more than fear.

There are plenty of dictators in Africa but they don't have any oil.

No one lied, and all of the issues about the Iraq war came out before the election. The American public saw it all, in addition to multiple liberal movies slamming Bush including Michael Moore's film, a concert tour by Rock n' Roll veterans to defeat Bush and much much more.

The American public looked at all that and rejected liberal America's opinion and re-elected Bush and Cheney to four more years. The fear mongers in the fall of 2004 before the election were not the Republicans, it was the Democrats. But they lost.

 

[U2Edge]

Nah, these super lovers if Iraq will not talk about the people that were killed. Those numbers are real and verifiable.

No, they would rather talk about their fantasy number of "lives" saved.

And how mean Saddam was. Of course when Saddam was OUR mean man, he was ok.

Nah the super lovers of Iraq don't mind that we tax payers of the USA spent trillions of money in Iraq. That was mostly wasted or used to bribe people.

It's the poor people here in this country that really piss off the Iraq lovers. They wouldn't spend a dime on the poor people here. Would rather send that money to Iraq.

Maybe it's a "guilt" thing they are trying to resolve.

The Iraq war was good for poor people in America as well. Why? Removing Saddam removed the biggest threat to global energy supplies. That ensures that oil still has a chance to keep up with global demand which keeps the price of fuel, energy and food from rising to fast. The first people to feel the effects of sharp rises in global energy prices are the poor. It impacts everything including the price they pay to put food in their mouth. Why? Because food has to be moved from the farm and factory to the supermarket. The more it cost to transport it there, the more that cost is passed on to the consumer.

In addition, now that Saddam is removed, Iraq is no longer under sanctions and has invested heavily in its oil industry to repair it and rebuild it in order to yield the highest production levels Iraq has ever seen. That will have a positive impact on energy prices around the world. So not only is Saddam's threat to the region and its energy supply removed, but Iraq can now grow into the large oil producing nation it has been held back from being for the past 30 years.

Everyone benefits from that including America's poor because everyone is impacted by the price of energy worldwide.

 

[georgephillip]

"December 7 - As required by UN Security Council Resolution 1441, Iraq files a 12,000 page weapons declaration with the U.N. Security Council. Although it is supposed to be a complete declaration, it is seen as incomplete by the Security Council and weapons inspectors."

2002 in Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Al-Qaeda-linked militants took control of the central areas of the city of Fallujah in Iraq, an Al Arabiya correspondent reported on Saturday.

"The reports came as a senior security official in the western Anbar province said the Iraqi government had lost control of the city to the militants.

"'Fallujah is under the control of ISIL,' the official said, referring to al-Qaeda-linked group the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

"The al-Qaeda fighters have seized military equipment provided by the U.S. Marines to Fallujah police, whose headquarters have been taken over, Uthman Mohamed, a local reporter in the city in Iraq’s western Anbar province, told Bloomberg news agency..."

"'Fighting between police and allied tribesmen on one side and ISIL militants on the other killed more than 100 people in Ramadi and Fallujah on Friday, security officials said.

"'It was the deadliest single day for Iraq in years.'"

Mission Accomplished!

Iraq government loses control of Fallujah | Al Bawaba

 

[Moonglow]

Yeah, this would belong in another forum except for the fact that libs keep telling us how there's no al Qaeda in Iraq.

As soon as a GOP member gets in the White House we can re-invade Iraq to deal with them.

 

[U2Edge]

"December 7 - As required by UN Security Council Resolution 1441, Iraq files a 12,000 page weapons declaration with the U.N. Security Council. Although it is supposed to be a complete declaration, it is seen as incomplete by the Security Council and weapons inspectors."

2002 in Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Al-Qaeda-linked militants took control of the central areas of the city of Fallujah in Iraq, an Al Arabiya correspondent reported on Saturday.

"The reports came as a senior security official in the western Anbar province said the Iraqi government had lost control of the city to the militants.

"'Fallujah is under the control of ISIL,' the official said, referring to al-Qaeda-linked group the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

"The al-Qaeda fighters have seized military equipment provided by the U.S. Marines to Fallujah police, whose headquarters have been taken over, Uthman Mohamed, a local reporter in the city in Iraq’s western Anbar province, told Bloomberg news agency..."

"'Fighting between police and allied tribesmen on one side and ISIL militants on the other killed more than 100 people in Ramadi and Fallujah on Friday, security officials said.

"'It was the deadliest single day for Iraq in years.'"

Mission Accomplished!

Iraq government loses control of Fallujah | Al Bawaba

Its a setback, but the Iraqi's will deal with it. They have come along way from 10 years ago when there was essentially no Iraqi police or military and the United States military was doing all the fighting and performing many of the governmental functions. Now the Iraqi's are doing this on their own without any U.S. troops involved.

Saddam's regime is Loooonnnggg gone! Kuwait is more safe and secure than at any time in its history! Mission Accomplished indeed!

 

[Moonglow]

Iraq was a stable democracy when Bush left office.

In what universe?? ...

Honest question. Why do you have to kill each other?

Now I don't want a pile on. I'm asking honestly. Sunni vs Shiite to me is so much like the Protestants vs the Catholics in Ireland.

I don't understand this Sunni Man. Sigh. Maybe one day we will talk about it. But I just don't understand it.

Mohammad had no heirs, so:
One side believes that the descendants of Mohammad should lead the govt. and be the national religious leader.
The other side thinks that the clerics should govern the nation and be the national religious leader.

 

[georgephillip]

"December 7 - As required by UN Security Council Resolution 1441, Iraq files a 12,000 page weapons declaration with the U.N. Security Council. Although it is supposed to be a complete declaration, it is seen as incomplete by the Security Council and weapons inspectors."

2002 in Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Al-Qaeda-linked militants took control of the central areas of the city of Fallujah in Iraq, an Al Arabiya correspondent reported on Saturday.

"The reports came as a senior security official in the western Anbar province said the Iraqi government had lost control of the city to the militants.

"'Fallujah is under the control of ISIL,' the official said, referring to al-Qaeda-linked group the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

"The al-Qaeda fighters have seized military equipment provided by the U.S. Marines to Fallujah police, whose headquarters have been taken over, Uthman Mohamed, a local reporter in the city in Iraq’s western Anbar province, told Bloomberg news agency..."

"'Fighting between police and allied tribesmen on one side and ISIL militants on the other killed more than 100 people in Ramadi and Fallujah on Friday, security officials said.

"'It was the deadliest single day for Iraq in years.'"

Mission Accomplished!

Iraq government loses control of Fallujah | Al Bawaba

Its a setback, but the Iraqi's will deal with it. They have come along way from 10 years ago when there was essentially no Iraqi police or military and the United States military was doing all the fighting and performing many of the governmental functions. Now the Iraqi's are doing this on their own without any U.S. troops involved.

Saddam's regime is Loooonnnggg gone! Kuwait is more safe and secure than at any time in its history! Mission Accomplished indeed!

I hope you are right, but all the evidence I've seen indicates Iraq and Syria are being broken into pieces in order to accommodate the creation of a New Middle East.

If you look at the map in the link at the end of this post you'll see Iraq fragmented into an Arab Shia State nestling against Iran, a Sunni Iraq enclave bordering Syria, and Baghdad redrawn as a 21st century city-state.

The biggest geopolitical change in the New Middle East is the creation of a 'Free Kurdistan" to the north of today's Iraq and Syria. This new state will likely be garrisoned by NATO troops in order to protect oil pipelines running from the Caspian Sea to the eastern Mediterranean.

Two months after 911 a retired general named Wesley Clark met with an old friend in the Pentagon and learned not only was the US on course to invade Iraq, but that was part of a five year plan to topple the governments of seven Muslim states.

Iraq and Libya have fallen.
Lebanon, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, and Iran are on deck.

Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a ?New Middle East? | Global Research

Scroll down the link for a few pages and check out the map.
It's why millions of Iraqis have been maimed, murdered, and displaced in the last ten years, and it foretells what's in store for Syrians and Lebanese over the next ten.

 

[U2Edge]

"Al-Qaeda-linked militants took control of the central areas of the city of Fallujah in Iraq, an Al Arabiya correspondent reported on Saturday.

"The reports came as a senior security official in the western Anbar province said the Iraqi government had lost control of the city to the militants.

"'Fallujah is under the control of ISIL,' the official said, referring to al-Qaeda-linked group the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

"The al-Qaeda fighters have seized military equipment provided by the U.S. Marines to Fallujah police, whose headquarters have been taken over, Uthman Mohamed, a local reporter in the city in Iraq’s western Anbar province, told Bloomberg news agency..."

"'Fighting between police and allied tribesmen on one side and ISIL militants on the other killed more than 100 people in Ramadi and Fallujah on Friday, security officials said.

"'It was the deadliest single day for Iraq in years.'"

Mission Accomplished!

Iraq government loses control of Fallujah | Al Bawaba

Its a setback, but the Iraqi's will deal with it. They have come along way from 10 years ago when there was essentially no Iraqi police or military and the United States military was doing all the fighting and performing many of the governmental functions. Now the Iraqi's are doing this on their own without any U.S. troops involved.

Saddam's regime is Loooonnnggg gone! Kuwait is more safe and secure than at any time in its history! Mission Accomplished indeed!

I hope you are right, but all the evidence I've seen indicates Iraq and Syria are being broken into pieces in order to accommodate the creation of a New Middle East.

If you look at the map in the link at the end of this post you'll see Iraq fragmented into an Arab Shia State nestling against Iran, a Sunni Iraq enclave bordering Syria, and Baghdad redrawn as a 21st century city-state.

The biggest geopolitical change in the New Middle East is the creation of a 'Free Kurdistan" to the north of today's Iraq and Syria. This new state will likely be garrisoned by NATO troops in order to protect oil pipelines running from the Caspian Sea to the eastern Mediterranean.

Two months after 911 a retired general named Wesley Clark met with an old friend in the Pentagon and learned not only was the US on course to invade Iraq, but that was part of a five year plan to topple the governments of seven Muslim states.

Iraq and Libya have fallen.
Lebanon, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, and Iran are on deck.

Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a ?New Middle East? | Global Research

Scroll down the link for a few pages and check out the map.
It's why millions of Iraqis have been maimed, murdered, and displaced in the last ten years, and it foretells what's in store for Syrians and Lebanese over the next ten.

I've already seen such maps and its just the fantasy of anarchist or those that like to criticize US policy in the region. A relatively little town in fallugah being taken over by extremist does not mean a new map in the middle east.

The kurds in Iraq are still heavily involved with the Iraqi government and have their own troops in the Baghdad area helping to fight the extremist. The fact is, the vast majority of Iraq is still under control of Maliki's government and Maliki is going to be re-elected in April of this year.

In Syria, years after everyone said Assad would soon be overthrown, Assad is still in power. Lebanaon is still a country decades after pundits said it was dead!

After all this time, plus the Arab Spring there are no new states in the middle east and there is not about to be any time in the near future either.

 

[georgephillip]

Its a setback, but the Iraqi's will deal with it. They have come along way from 10 years ago when there was essentially no Iraqi police or military and the United States military was doing all the fighting and performing many of the governmental functions. Now the Iraqi's are doing this on their own without any U.S. troops involved.

Saddam's regime is Loooonnnggg gone! Kuwait is more safe and secure than at any time in its history! Mission Accomplished indeed!

I hope you are right, but all the evidence I've seen indicates Iraq and Syria are being broken into pieces in order to accommodate the creation of a New Middle East.

If you look at the map in the link at the end of this post you'll see Iraq fragmented into an Arab Shia State nestling against Iran, a Sunni Iraq enclave bordering Syria, and Baghdad redrawn as a 21st century city-state.

The biggest geopolitical change in the New Middle East is the creation of a 'Free Kurdistan" to the north of today's Iraq and Syria. This new state will likely be garrisoned by NATO troops in order to protect oil pipelines running from the Caspian Sea to the eastern Mediterranean.

Two months after 911 a retired general named Wesley Clark met with an old friend in the Pentagon and learned not only was the US on course to invade Iraq, but that was part of a five year plan to topple the governments of seven Muslim states.

Iraq and Libya have fallen.
Lebanon, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, and Iran are on deck.

Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a ?New Middle East? | Global Research

Scroll down the link for a few pages and check out the map.
It's why millions of Iraqis have been maimed, murdered, and displaced in the last ten years, and it foretells what's in store for Syrians and Lebanese over the next ten.

I've already seen such maps and its just the fantasy of anarchist or those that like to criticize US policy in the region. A relatively little town in fallugah being taken over by extremist does not mean a new map in the middle east.

The kurds in Iraq are still heavily involved with the Iraqi government and have their own troops in the Baghdad area helping to fight the extremist. The fact is, the vast majority of Iraq is still under control of Maliki's government and Maliki is going to be re-elected in April of this year.

In Syria, years after everyone said Assad would soon be overthrown, Assad is still in power. Lebanaon is still a country decades after pundits said it was dead!

After all this time, plus the Arab Spring there are no new states in the middle east and there is not about to be any time in the near future either.

"A relatively unknown map of the Middle East, NATO-garrisoned Afghanistan, and Pakistan has been circulating around strategic, governmental, NATO, policy and military circles since mid-2006.

"It has been causally allowed to surface in public, maybe in an attempt to build consensus and to slowly prepare the general public for possible, maybe even cataclysmic, changes in the Middle East.

"This is a map of a redrawn and restructured Middle East identified as the 'New Middle East.'

MAP OF THE NEW MIDDLE EAST

"Note: The following map was prepared by Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters.

"It was published in the Armed Forces Journal in June 2006, Peters is a retired colonel of the U.S. National War Academy. (Map Copyright Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters 2006).

"Although the map does not officially reflect Pentagon doctrine, it has been used in a training program at NATO’s Defense College for senior military officers.

"This map, as well as other similar maps, has most probably been used at the National War Academy as well as in military planning circles.

This map of the 'New Middle East' seems to be based on several other maps, including older maps of potential boundaries in the Middle East extending back to the era of U.S. President Woodrow Wilson and World War I.

"This map is showcased and presented as the brainchild of retired Lieutenant-Colonel (U.S. Army) Ralph Peters, who believes the redesigned borders contained in the map will fundamentally solve the problems of the contemporary Middle East."

Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a ?New Middle East? | Global Research

 

[U2Edge]

I hope you are right, but all the evidence I've seen indicates Iraq and Syria are being broken into pieces in order to accommodate the creation of a New Middle East.

If you look at the map in the link at the end of this post you'll see Iraq fragmented into an Arab Shia State nestling against Iran, a Sunni Iraq enclave bordering Syria, and Baghdad redrawn as a 21st century city-state.

The biggest geopolitical change in the New Middle East is the creation of a 'Free Kurdistan" to the north of today's Iraq and Syria. This new state will likely be garrisoned by NATO troops in order to protect oil pipelines running from the Caspian Sea to the eastern Mediterranean.

Two months after 911 a retired general named Wesley Clark met with an old friend in the Pentagon and learned not only was the US on course to invade Iraq, but that was part of a five year plan to topple the governments of seven Muslim states.

Iraq and Libya have fallen.
Lebanon, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, and Iran are on deck.

Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a ?New Middle East? | Global Research

Scroll down the link for a few pages and check out the map.
It's why millions of Iraqis have been maimed, murdered, and displaced in the last ten years, and it foretells what's in store for Syrians and Lebanese over the next ten.

I've already seen such maps and its just the fantasy of anarchist or those that like to criticize US policy in the region. A relatively little town in fallugah being taken over by extremist does not mean a new map in the middle east.

The kurds in Iraq are still heavily involved with the Iraqi government and have their own troops in the Baghdad area helping to fight the extremist. The fact is, the vast majority of Iraq is still under control of Maliki's government and Maliki is going to be re-elected in April of this year.

In Syria, years after everyone said Assad would soon be overthrown, Assad is still in power. Lebanaon is still a country decades after pundits said it was dead!

After all this time, plus the Arab Spring there are no new states in the middle east and there is not about to be any time in the near future either.

"A relatively unknown map of the Middle East, NATO-garrisoned Afghanistan, and Pakistan has been circulating around strategic, governmental, NATO, policy and military circles since mid-2006.

"It has been causally allowed to surface in public, maybe in an attempt to build consensus and to slowly prepare the general public for possible, maybe even cataclysmic, changes in the Middle East.

"This is a map of a redrawn and restructured Middle East identified as the 'New Middle East.'

MAP OF THE NEW MIDDLE EAST

"Note: The following map was prepared by Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters.

"It was published in the Armed Forces Journal in June 2006, Peters is a retired colonel of the U.S. National War Academy. (Map Copyright Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters 2006).

"Although the map does not officially reflect Pentagon doctrine, it has been used in a training program at NATO’s Defense College for senior military officers.

"This map, as well as other similar maps, has most probably been used at the National War Academy as well as in military planning circles.

This map of the 'New Middle East' seems to be based on several other maps, including older maps of potential boundaries in the Middle East extending back to the era of U.S. President Woodrow Wilson and World War I.

"This map is showcased and presented as the brainchild of retired Lieutenant-Colonel (U.S. Army) Ralph Peters, who believes the redesigned borders contained in the map will fundamentally solve the problems of the contemporary Middle East."

Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a ?New Middle East? | Global Research

Well, Ralph Peters is wrong. The map in the Middle East is going to be the same as it is now in 2020 as well as 2030 and beyond. Why? Because Ralphs ideas would lead to more chaous and bloodshed and nationalism and the idea of the state is much stronger today in the middle east than it was in 1920. Only the extremist and the crazies want to redraw the map.