"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese"

[Hossfly]

Originally stated by european jews the founders of the state of Israel
"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese"

And this is coming from a sorry bunch of ethnic Russian, Ukrainian and Polish invaders pathetically trying to sell themselves as the direct descendents of an ancient semitic people whose genetic heritage was all but totally dilluted about 1500 years ago in order to justify the landgrab and the supremacist state they impose on the arab people of Palestine.

You do realize that over 1 million Jews from the Arab world came to Israel when they were expelled from the Arab countries in 1948 don't you?

You do realize that there are Arab Muslim women that look European don't you?
Look at these Arab models.

The Hottest Arab Women of 2010 (50 pics) - Izismile.com

There's a 51st picture that wasn't included: This Iranian beauty from Arkansas.

 

[Coyote]

All you hot dudes (or dudettes) - come visit this thread and post a picture - http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-r...ont-be-shy-pictorial-nsfw-87.html#post7961479

It's a friendly thread - no attacks, just fun

 

[toastman]

All you hot dudes (or dudettes) - come visit this thread and post a picture - http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-r...ont-be-shy-pictorial-nsfw-87.html#post7961479

It's a friendly thread - no attacks, just fun

Did you post a pic of yourself ??????

 

[Coyote]

All you hot dudes (or dudettes) - come visit this thread and post a picture - http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-r...ont-be-shy-pictorial-nsfw-87.html#post7961479

It's a friendly thread - no attacks, just fun

Did you post a pic of yourself ??????

Affirmative.

 

[José]

Originally posted by ForeverYoung436
Ashkenazi Jews, even if their complexions are not so dark, rarely have blonde hair.

Bullshit.

My very first job was as a porter at a international hotel. During the time I worked there I had the opportunity to meet hundreds of Askhenazis... I've never seen so many blonde, blue eyed people in my whole life.

They were so white that I could never tell the difference between them and anglo-american tourists until they started talking in Hebrew or Yiddish or in the case of american Askhenazis until they told me themselves.

At least 35% of them were as white as you can get... complete with pink skin, blond hair and blue eyes. The rest had dark hair and brown eyes but looked totally european just like Russians and Poles who happen to have that physical appearance.

Now... of course the majority of Askhenazis are not blond, blue eyed.. last time I checked those were recessive genes/traits in human genetics not dominant. Contrary to your belief not even in Sweden, Norway and Denmark are blond people in the majority.

GENETICALLY, and I repeat, only GENETICALLY, Askhenazis are caucasians from eastern Europe.

If most russian Gentiles are not blond why should Russians who happen to follow the jewish faith be any different?

 

[José]

Originally posted by toastman
Jose, you have it all wrong. This thread is not to dehumanize people, it is just a rebuttal to the repetitive claims of Palestinians and their supporters that they are the same people that have lived on the land between the river and the sea for centuries.
If I could just make a suggestion..if you are not sure what the intention of a certain thread is, why don't you just ask the OP for an honest answer ?

When FY says Palestinians are a "made-up people" and you agree with him 100% you do not leave much to the immagination, toastman.

Even with all the good will in the world I'd still have to conclude you joined him in dehumanizing the palestinian people.

Listen, I can say freely:

"The modern jewish people are not descendants from the ancient jewish people who lived in the Middle East before the diaspora."

You can say without any fear:

"Palestinians do not descend from Canaanites, Philistines or any other biblical people." (if you say this I will be the first poster to side with you on this one).

We won't be dehumanising neither the modern jewish people nor Palestinians because pointing out the fact that MITHOLOGICAL ORIGINS OF PEOPLES are indeed the product of the human imagination is not dehumanization, it's not an offense, it's telling the truth and the truth cannot be dehumanising, offensive.

If there are thin-skinned Jews and Palestinians who find this fact offensive, this is their problem not ours. They are the ones who have to find a way to come to terms with the reality of their ancient ancestry and not try to shout us down or intimidate us into not talking about a uncomfortable, painful truth.

But if I say:

"The modern jewish people is a made-up people".

or you say (as FY and you really did):

"Palestinians are a made-up people".

then we are definitely crossing the red line and entering the realm of the dehumanization of a group of human beings through the denial of their national identity.

 

[José]

José, et al,

For the benefit of an old man, what are we talking about here?

Judge for yourselves.

(COMMENT)

We all have our particular leanings.

What is the nuance I'm missing here?

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco,

You’ll have a hard time finding a lazier poster than I.

I contribute to the Board only once in a while but everytime I come here my mind starts boiling with literally dozens of new ideas for threads on a variety of subjects but 98% of these threads never see the light of day because I’m so incredibly lazy.

I have been promising a thread on the jewish national identity for at least 5 years but there was no power on Earth that could make my lazy ass write it.

But I finally gather the strength to overcome the inertia and typed the thread thanks to your request. So you perfomed a small miracle and haven’t even noticed yet.

You can all either thank or curse Rocco because he’s the only responsible for this thread.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/israel-and-palestine/320465-jose-s-totally-awesome-thread-on-the-jewish-national-identity.html#post8038164

 

[docmauser1]

When FY says Palestinians are a "made-up people" and you agree with him 100% you do not leave much to the immagination, toastman.

Even with all the good will in the world I'd still have to conclude you joined him in dehumanizing the palestinian people.

Listen, I can say freely:

"The modern jewish people are not descendants from the ancient jewish people who lived in the Middle East before the diaspora."

You can say without any fear:

"Palestinians do not descend from Canaanites, Philistines or any other biblical people." (if you say this I will be the first poster to side with you on this one).

We won't be dehumanising neither the modern jewish people nor Palestinians because pointing out the fact that MITHOLOGICAL ORIGINS OF PEOPLES are indeed the product of the human imagination is not dehumanization, it's not an offense, it's telling the truth and the truth cannot be dehumanising, offensive.

If there are thin-skinned Jews and Palestinians who find this fact offensive, this is their problem not ours. They are the ones who have to find a way to come to terms with the reality of their ancient ancestry and not try to shout us down or intimidate us into not talking about a uncomfortable, painful truth.

But if I say:

"The modern jewish people is a made-up people".

or you say (as FY and you really did):

"Palestinians are a made-up people".

then we are definitely crossing the red line and entering the realm of the dehumanization of a group of human beings through the denial of their national identity.

Drivel. And, bth, palistanians still aren't a people, of course.

 

[docmauser1]

I contribute to the Board only once in a while but everytime I come here my mind starts boiling with literally dozens of new ideas for threads on a variety of subjects but 98% of these threads never see the light of day because I’m so incredibly lazy.

Very good.

 

[Roudy]

Originally posted by toastman
Jose, you have it all wrong. This thread is not to dehumanize people, it is just a rebuttal to the repetitive claims of Palestinians and their supporters that they are the same people that have lived on the land between the river and the sea for centuries.
If I could just make a suggestion..if you are not sure what the intention of a certain thread is, why don't you just ask the OP for an honest answer ?

When FY says Palestinians are a "made-up people" and you agree with him 100% you do not leave much to the immagination, toastman.

Even with all the good will in the world I'd still have to conclude you joined him in dehumanizing the palestinian people.

Listen, I can say freely:

"The modern jewish people are not descendants from the ancient jewish people who lived in the Middle East before the diaspora."

You can say without any fear:

"Palestinians do not descend from Canaanites, Philistines or any other biblical people." (if you say this I will be the first poster to side with you on this one).

We won't be dehumanising neither the modern jewish people nor Palestinians because pointing out the fact that MITHOLOGICAL ORIGINS OF PEOPLES are indeed the product of the human imagination is not dehumanization, it's not an offense, it's telling the truth and the truth cannot be dehumanising, offensive.

If there are thin-skinned Jews and Palestinians who find this fact offensive, this is their problem not ours. They are the ones who have to find a way to come to terms with the reality of their ancient ancestry and not try to shout us down or intimidate us into not talking about a uncomfortable, painful truth.

But if I say:

"The modern jewish people is a made-up people".

or you say (as FY and you really did):

"Palestinians are a made-up people".

then we are definitely crossing the red line and entering the realm of the dehumanization of a group of human beings through the denial of their national identity.

The Jewish people is not made up. Jews have been around for thousands of years and have learned to adapt and survive. Just open any history book and you will see Jewish people part of most empires and civilizations, contributing along the way. . The Palestinian Arabs on the other hand are indeed a made up people. They stole the name Palestinian from the label given to a Jews and officially adopted this identity as of 1967. There has never been a Palestinian people, country, civilization, capital, currency, language, food, culture, rulers, etc. I think you get the drift. However you cut it, Palestinian is a total hoax and a fraud.

 

[José]

Originally posted by Roudy
The Jewish people is not made up. Jews have been around for thousands of years and have learned to adapt and survive.

True.

But since this jewish people:

is not genetically related to this jewish people:

we must talk about two separate jewish peoples.

The ancient jewish people (of semitic stock) who lived in the Middle East during the Iron Age and developed (most of) the cultural dimension of both jewish peoples and the modern jewish people including european jews (Israel's founders) with nothing but the most dilluted semitic heritage one can imagine (if any).

Their legitimacy as a separate ethnic group (from european Gentiles), as a real people who deserve to be recognized and respected as such is not even open for debate.

What is beyond absurd, shameful and ridiculous is what you're doing right now:

Using the mithological origin of the european followers of the ancient jewish culture and faith to "legitimise" the jewish racial dictatorship they created in Palestine.

The Askhenazim were total foreigners in Palestine just like the English in America, the Spanish in Mexico and the Dutch in South Africa.

 

[Roudy]

Originally posted by Roudy
The Jewish people is not made up. Jews have been around for thousands of years and have learned to adapt and survive.

True.

But since this jewish people:

is not genetically related to this jewish people:

we must talk about two separate jewish peoples.

The ancient jewish people (of semitic stock) who lived in the Middle East during the Iron Age and developed (most of) the cultural dimension of both jewish peoples and the modern jewish people including european jews (Israel's founders) with nothing but the most dilluted semitic heritage one can imagine (if any).

Their legitimacy as a separate ethnic group (from european Gentiles), as a real people who deserve to be recognized and respected as such is not even open for debate.

What is beyond absurd, shameful and ridiculous is what you're doing right now:

Using the mithological origin of the european followers of the ancient jewish culture and faith to "legitimise" the jewish racial dictatorship they created in Palestine.

The Askhenazim were total foreigners in Palestine just like the English in America, the Spanish in Mexico and the Dutch in South Africa.

Well Jose, since you are so concerned about "the Jewish people" you'd be happy to know that majority of the Jewish people in Israel are Mizrahi Jews,mor descendants of, who are from Middle a Eastern countries, and who can trace their ancestry directly back to the fall of the first and second temples in Jerusalem.

 

[Roudy]

I would call Jose's attempts at making ALL Ashkenazi Jews "blond haired blue eyed" Scandinavian looking Europeans, pretty pathetic. Here are some well known Ashkenazi Jew that look Semitic. And there's more where that came from. Light bulb, you're NOT Jose:

Jesus:

Ben Bernanke:

Adam Sandler

 

[ForeverYoung436]

I would call Jose's attempts at making ALL Ashkenazi Jews "blond haired blue eyed" Scandinavian looking Europeans, pretty pathetic. Here are some well known Ashkenazi Jew that look Semitic. And there's more where that came from. Light bulb, you're NOT Jose:

Ben Bernanke:

Adam Sandler

You're right Roudy. Even if we forget about Mizrahi/Sephardic Jews, and only focus on Ashkenazi, then dark hair and eyes and long noses are still the norm. Jose is making it sound like blond hair and blue eyes are common among Jews, when they are the exception, though some do exist. During my 12 years of schooling in Yeshiva (Hebrew school), there was only one blond guy who really stood out in the crowd.

 

[Coyote]

Originally posted by toastman
Jose, you have it all wrong. This thread is not to dehumanize people, it is just a rebuttal to the repetitive claims of Palestinians and their supporters that they are the same people that have lived on the land between the river and the sea for centuries.
If I could just make a suggestion..if you are not sure what the intention of a certain thread is, why don't you just ask the OP for an honest answer ?

When FY says Palestinians are a "made-up people" and you agree with him 100% you do not leave much to the immagination, toastman.

Even with all the good will in the world I'd still have to conclude you joined him in dehumanizing the palestinian people.

Listen, I can say freely:

"The modern jewish people are not descendants from the ancient jewish people who lived in the Middle East before the diaspora."

You can say without any fear:

"Palestinians do not descend from Canaanites, Philistines or any other biblical people." (if you say this I will be the first poster to side with you on this one).

We won't be dehumanising neither the modern jewish people nor Palestinians because pointing out the fact that MITHOLOGICAL ORIGINS OF PEOPLES are indeed the product of the human imagination is not dehumanization, it's not an offense, it's telling the truth and the truth cannot be dehumanising, offensive.

If there are thin-skinned Jews and Palestinians who find this fact offensive, this is their problem not ours. They are the ones who have to find a way to come to terms with the reality of their ancient ancestry and not try to shout us down or intimidate us into not talking about a uncomfortable, painful truth.

But if I say:

"The modern jewish people is a made-up people".

or you say (as FY and you really did):

"Palestinians are a made-up people".

then we are definitely crossing the red line and entering the realm of the dehumanization of a group of human beings through the denial of their national identity.

The Jewish people is not made up. Jews have been around for thousands of years and have learned to adapt and survive. Just open any history book and you will see Jewish people part of most empires and civilizations, contributing along the way. . The Palestinian Arabs on the other hand are indeed a made up people. They stole the name Palestinian from the label given to a Jews and officially adopted this identity as of 1967. There has never been a Palestinian people, country, civilization, capital, currency, language, food, culture, rulers, etc. I think you get the drift. However you cut it, Palestinian is a total hoax and a fraud.

No one is a "made up people" - that's nothing more than a canard intended to disenfranchise real living people with rights - whether Jewish or Palestinian. If you can make them non-people, then that's just one more step on the road to justifying extreme measures.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

I would call Jose's attempts at making ALL Ashkenazi Jews "blond haired blue eyed" Scandinavian looking Europeans, pretty pathetic. Here are some well known Ashkenazi Jew that look Semitic. And there's more where that came from. Light bulb, you're NOT Jose:

Jesus:

Ben Bernanke:

Adam Sandler

Don't forget Jerry Seinfeld.
During the Holocaust, those few Jews who had blond hair and blue eyes were able to pass for Aryans, like the movie "Europa, Europa" represents. (It was a true story.) So that was not the common look among Jews.

 

[Roudy]

I would call Jose's attempts at making ALL Ashkenazi Jews "blond haired blue eyed" Scandinavian looking Europeans, pretty pathetic. Here are some well known Ashkenazi Jew that look Semitic. And there's more where that came from. Light bulb, you're NOT Jose:

Jesus:

Ben Bernanke:

Adam Sandler

Don't forget Jerry Seinfeld.
During the Holocaust, those few Jews who had blond hair and blue eyes were able to pass for Aryans, like the movie "Europa, Europa" represents. (It was a true story.) So that was not the common look among Jews.

Exactly. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I can usually spot a Jew pretty easily. Ashkenazi or Mizrahi they have some very distinct and obvious features that separate them from other people. I guess Jose Feliciano won't be posting pictures of blond Jews any longer.

 

[toastman]

I can sense if a person is Jewish as well. I call it the Jew Sense

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -

Actually that is true, Roudy, as they are all part of the House of Esau that is prophesied about in Obadiah 1:18. This is the modern day house of Esau. - Jeri