There's no point in trying to have alleged constructive debate with a leftist as, there IS no debate. It's either agree with the leftist or...forget it. I'd make more progress smacking my head against a brick wall than I would trying to enter into supposed constructive debate with a leftist. And, I've already had constructive debate with leftists on how we might find consensus solutions to our problems and, they didn't listen, they still elected that condescending arrogant punk anyway. And, your delusions that anything is a surefire way to guarantee anything? That's all they are...delusions. Although you like to revel in this win, you forget one thing. While those identifying themselves as Republican/Lean or conservative over the past three years (2009, 2010 and 2011) has increased (with a slight dip in 2011 from 2010 identifying themselves as Republican/Lean), those identifying themselves as Democrat/Lean or liberal has been declining. So, don't count on your dreams of continued Democratic dominance. Just like 2008, I think it's more of a matter of Republicans and conservatives not voting which was key to his re-election, rather than anything special on your part. And oh...by the way? Those identifying themselves as moderates has been declining...too.