The war on vapers

[dblack]

You right wing ***** made HEROES out of David Koresh and Randy Weaver.

Some of them have, no doubt. Kinda like left wing ***** did with Rodney King or Eric Garner. But here's the thing: when government is looking for someone to bully, it's always going to start with disreputable targets. They're not going to go after the deacon at your church. They know that if they focus on targets most people don't like anyway, authoritarian bigots, such as yourself, will cheer for them.

 

[JoeB131]

Some of them have, no doubt. Kinda like left wing ***** did with Rodney King or Eric Garner.

Um. Okay. Let's compare heroes.

Eric Garner was a guy who sold cigarettes and was murdered by police.
Rodney King was a guy who drove reckelessly and was beaten by police.

vs.

David Koresh molested kids, stockpiled weapons, shot four federal agents and then incited his crazy followers into mass suicide.
Randy Weaver was a racist nut who murdered a Federal Agent serving a valid arrest warrant.

But here's the thing: when government is looking for someone to bully, it's always going to start with disreputable targets. They're not going to go after the deacon at your church. They know that if they focus on targets most people don't like anyway, authoritarian bigots, such as yourself, will cheer for them.

Um. No. Koresh and Weaver broke laws and killed people. That's why the government "Bullied" them.

 

[dblack]

Some of them have, no doubt. Kinda like left wing ***** did with Rodney King or Eric Garner.

Um. Okay. Let's compare heroes.

Eric Garner was a guy who sold cigarettes and was murdered by police.
Rodney King was a guy who drove reckelessly and was beaten by police.

vs.

David Koresh molested kids, stockpiled weapons, shot four federal agents and then incited his crazy followers into mass suicide.
Randy Weaver was a racist nut who murdered a Federal Agent serving a valid arrest warrant.

But here's the thing: when government is looking for someone to bully, it's always going to start with disreputable targets. They're not going to go after the deacon at your church. They know that if they focus on targets most people don't like anyway, authoritarian bigots, such as yourself, will cheer for them.

Um. No. Koresh and Weaver broke laws and killed people. That's why the government "Bullied" them.

Yeah, yeah. "It's different when we do it!"

 

[beautress]

One good thing about businessmen is that they assess situations before jumping in. Trump wants our America to be a good place to live. Nothing is good when thousands of families are depressed because they lost a loved one to fentanyl or vaping. Those are two wars we can win, and fentanyl takes 300 lives per week last count I heard about. I'm not sure how frequently people die from vaping, but it must be a lot. I don't know if there are even any stats out on predictable deaths if it hangs in there as a mind-altering substance abuse route. There are studies in Europe that support people quitting, but not all the details are known why this happens there and not here. There is likely an apple-and-oranges reason, but that would require someone to scrutinize the goings on in two different hemispheres. Such as, is there a chemical cleaner in the European stations that kills the craving on a permanent basis or something as equally obscure--a flavor, other products such as a tea that influences the outcome?

Hey, I just went over here and found some information recorded by doctors: Is Vaping Dangerous? What the Science Shows | Physician's Weekly

I'm paraphrasing several of the potential problems vaping has shown a propensity to:

(1) While it is true that vaping has helped some smokers quit, researcher published in July showed that only 10% of nearly 1,300 former smokers who turned to vaping to help quit were successful in doing so.

(2) there are a multitude of harmful effects that come along with vaping. The flavoring additives, so popular with teenagers, have come under scrutiny. Study findings published in July in an American Heart Association journal suggest that e-cigarette flavorings may damage blood vessels and the heart. One sentence issues a caution to teens who over-vape because they like the flavors.

(3) Pyrazine additives in ecigarettes. Pyrazines are known as being potentially toxic to the reproductive tract, and thus are a concern to child-bearing years adults, and in particular, teens. Vape and say goodbye to the next generation? Who knew Thalidomide would cause birth defects when they were prescribed as a miracle sedative back in the 50s. The teratogenic disaster that followed cost thousands of newborns their arms, fingers, toes, legs, and all sorts of body parts to disappear or be so deformed and unsightly people were horrified. Often its user's baby was just stillborn. Who knows what was missing inside?

Damage of vessels to the vessels and the heart could cause sudden death any time in a person's life that stress strained a vessel with a burst aneurism effect, which could be quite fatal when the doctor doesn't know which vessel is causing the interneal bleeding, or multiple vessels could be affected.

Will vaping increase the deaths from heart problems years later? We have no knowledge one way or another, but from what the article says, it is not a good outlook.

In short, could vaping bring about who knows what kind of disaster on mankind?​

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Some of them have, no doubt. Kinda like left wing ***** did with Rodney King or Eric Garner.

Um. Okay. Let's compare heroes.

Eric Garner was a guy who sold cigarettes and was murdered by police.
Rodney King was a guy who drove reckelessly and was beaten by police.

vs.

David Koresh molested kids, stockpiled weapons, shot four federal agents and then incited his crazy followers into mass suicide.
Randy Weaver was a racist nut who murdered a Federal Agent serving a valid arrest warrant.

But here's the thing: when government is looking for someone to bully, it's always going to start with disreputable targets. They're not going to go after the deacon at your church. They know that if they focus on targets most people don't like anyway, authoritarian bigots, such as yourself, will cheer for them.

Um. No. Koresh and Weaver broke laws and killed people. That's why the government "Bullied" them.

Randy Weaver won a judgment against the government and got 3.1 million dollars because he was bullied.

U.S. to Pay $3.1 Million for '92 Idaho Shootout : Court: Settlement in Weaver case reflects loss of mother, son in Ruby Ridge incident. But wrongdoing is denied.

 

[JoeB131]

One good thing about businessmen is that they assess situations before jumping in. Trump wants our America to be a good place to live.

"My boss is a genius" said no working guy ever. I've never seen a case where businessmen make humane decisions or even smart ones.

Trump wants America to be a good place for rich white people to live. You dumb white trash cling to your guns and your bibles and wonder why your lives get worse.

 

[JoeB131]

Randy Weaver won a judgment against the government and got 3.1 million dollars because he was bullied.

That was the mistake. What they should have done was said, "You're a Nazi Fuckwad who got his family killed", and then took him into a back room and beat him with rubber hoses for half an hour before dumping him on the street.

Yeah, yeah. "It's different when we do it!"

Weaver and Koresh killed people. Garner and King didn't. That's a pretty big distinction.

 

[Blues Man]

They aren't working because we do not enforce them

It really isn't rocket science

No, they aren't working because they are designed to NOT be enforced.

You right wing ***** made HEROES out of David Koresh and Randy Weaver.

Bullshit

When Richmond VA decided to enforce them their murder rate dropped over 20% in a single year and all gun related crimes dropped precipitously as well.

 

[JoeB131]

Bullshit

When Richmond VA decided to enforce them their murder rate dropped over 20% in a single year and all gun related crimes dropped precipitously as well.

More Cherry picking without a link?

 

[dblack]

Randy Weaver won a judgment against the government and got 3.1 million dollars because he was bullied.

That was the mistake. What they should have done was said, "You're a Nazi Fuckwad who got his family killed", and then took him into a back room and beat him with rubber hoses for half an hour before dumping him on the street.

Wet dream?

 

[JoeB131]

Randy Weaver won a judgment against the government and got 3.1 million dollars because he was bullied.

That was the mistake. What they should have done was said, "You're a Nazi Fuckwad who got his family killed", and then took him into a back room and beat him with rubber hoses for half an hour before dumping him on the street.

Wet dream?

Nope, just someone whose family came from a country where the Nazis did take over, and has very little patience for them.

You know what they do to you today if you walk down the street wearing a swastika? They throw your ass in jail.

 

[mudwhistle]

I see Donny is taking on the vaping industry after 6 deaths might have been caused by these things.

I wonder if there are any other industries where he could apply this logic ?

It's not Trump, you asshat...it's the left wingers in the Federal bureaucracy....you moron.....foolish people thought it was about smoking and your health.....for left wingers it is always about control...they have a mental illness the forces them to control others...

No....No....No.....everything bad is Trump's fault.

 

[dblack]

Randy Weaver won a judgment against the government and got 3.1 million dollars because he was bullied.

That was the mistake. What they should have done was said, "You're a Nazi Fuckwad who got his family killed", and then took him into a back room and beat him with rubber hoses for half an hour before dumping him on the street.

Wet dream?

Nope, just someone whose family came from a country where the Nazis did take over, and has very little patience for them.

It sounds sort of like the way abusers pass on their evil to their victims, and then - when they get the chance - the victims become the abusers. There are good therapy solutions that can help you break the cycle of anger and violence.

 

[JoeB131]

t sounds sort of like the way abusers pass on their evil to their victims, and then - when they get the chance - the victims become the abusers. There are good therapy solutions that can help you break the cycle of anger and violence.

Oh we can just break Nazi heads... that works, too.

Kind of like you cut out dead tissue before gangrene kills the whole body.

 

[dblack]

t sounds sort of like the way abusers pass on their evil to their victims, and then - when they get the chance - the victims become the abusers. There are good therapy solutions that can help you break the cycle of anger and violence.

Oh we can just break Nazi heads... that works, too.

Kind of like you cut out dead tissue before gangrene kills the whole body.

 

[JoeB131]

You never had relatives who went to concentration camps, or had screaming nightmares for the rest of their lives from what they saw in Europe in 1944 and 1945.

**** these losers who want to call themselves Nazis...

 

[Blues Man]

Bullshit

When Richmond VA decided to enforce them their murder rate dropped over 20% in a single year and all gun related crimes dropped precipitously as well.

More Cherry picking without a link?

Pot kettle

and I have linked to Project Exile at least a dozen times some of those in response to your inanity. Is your memory that bad?


Study 1
Firearm Homicide Rates, Project Exile
Rosenfeld and colleagues (2005) found a statistically significant intervention effect for Project Exile. Firearm homicides in Richmond exhibited a 22 percent yearly decline, compared with the average reduction of about 10 percent per year for other large U.S. cities. The difference is statistically significant.

 

[JoeB131]

Pot kettle

and I have linked to Project Exile at least a dozen times some of those in response to your inanity. Is your memory that bad?

Naw, I just ignore links from Gun Nuts because you get crazy shit like "Pools kill more people than Guns" (Only if you discount most gun deaths and count lakes, rivers and floods as "Pools".)

 

[Blues Man]

Pot kettle

and I have linked to Project Exile at least a dozen times some of those in response to your inanity. Is your memory that bad?

Naw, I just ignore links from Gun Nuts because you get crazy shit like "Pools kill more people than Guns" (Only if you discount most gun deaths and count lakes, rivers and floods as "Pools".)

Well this is a government web site hence the .gov at the end of the URL

National Institute of Justice (NIJ) - Office of Justice Programs (OJP)

 

[JoeB131]

Well this is a government web site hence the .gov at the end of the URL

Again, still ignoring anything from Gun Nuts...