The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy
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Dante
"The Libido for the Ugly"
2016 Putin and others didn't want Hillary in power. Republican controlled committees said Putin helped Trump, as did Trump's own intelligence agency experts.
That may be counterintuitive to people like you who are programmed to stick with rightwing narratives, stories, and outright lies.
Dante
"The Libido for the Ugly"
"Enough new information has come to light about the communists in the U.S. government that we may now say that point by point Joe McCarthy got it all wrong and yet was still closer to the truth than those who ridiculed him."
Nicholas von Hoffman, a columnist for the New York Observer, is a frequent contributor to Outlook.
stick with truth
"The nearly 1,000-page report, the fifth and final one from the Republican-led Senate intelligence committee on the Russia investigation, details how Russia launched an aggressive effort to interfere in the election on Trump’s behalf. It says the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers."
Senate panel finds Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election
The report purposely does not come to a final conclusion, as the other reports did, about whether there is enough evidence that Trump’s campaign coordinated or colluded with Russia to sway the election, leaving its findings open to partisan interpretation.www.pbs.org
note bodecea These dupes and dopes believe ever lie Trump spouts.
No one said Russia didn't try to interfere in the election, Einstein. That isn't the question. Gawd you're stupid
Dante
"The Libido for the Ugly"
You're just completely fucking stupid
Dante
"The Libido for the Ugly"
You're welcome, glad to do it. I'm so sorry you were such a genetic loser in life. Someone should give you a What's up.
So, what's up?
Marchimedes
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How do you know that and why? Your Mother is not a source, neither is your boyfriend.
Roger that. Republicans are suddenly wholesome truth tellers...
when they say what you want to hear.
Correct? It has all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation....
Also I love you, the check is in the mail and I promise not to...
Did you just 'you people' me? That's racist.
What the fu(k right wing narrative have you seen me parrot? Quote me and bring that $h!t right here!
Here we go again...
I've a thread in The Flame Zone. Mostly all me and my original thoughts.
Read until you can find me spewing the right wing narrative. I'd bring stuff up here but that'd be a nice banning. But then you'd like that.
Talk is cheap, saying crap is easy. Back it up, Junior!
Far as I've seen so far this site has never had anything like me and ya'll don't know what the fu(k to do.
Or...
A Monday for me.
You afeared of going to The Taunting Arena where Mother moderator can't protect you from me?
The Sage of Main Street
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War Between Two Princes
His mistake, compounded by the CIA with Fidel Castro, was to go after only Communist Party members instead of the spoiled-brat Preppy Progressives who were too degenerate to go under the Party's strict discipline. They took over the movement soon after McCarthy was censored and were as successful as Fidel was. The Robert Redford movie, Havana, reveals who the Communists really are and always have been.
The ruling class wouldn't dare expose the fact that it is their own bossy Born to Rule children who become Marxists, in a conflict with the ones who become laissez-faire leeching lizards.
Dante
"The Libido for the Ugly"
My mother? How many times have you been knocked unconscious, and have you ever had a bat to the face or head? Curious?
Dante
"The Libido for the Ugly"
When Russia set out to interfere with the 2016 election, it went all out.
Over the course of the election, a wide-ranging group of Russians probed state voter databases for insecurities; hacked the Hillary Clinton campaign, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic National Committee; tried to hack the campaign of Sen. Marco Rubio and the Republican National Committee; released politically damaging information on the internet; spread propaganda on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Instagram; staged rallies in Florida and Pennsylvania; set up meetings with members of the Trump campaign and its associates; and floated a business proposition for a skyscraper in Moscow to the Trump Organization.
Here's What We Know So Far About Russia's 2016 Meddling
It included hacking, spreading propaganda on social media and even staging rallies.
Blaster
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McCarthy was a great Senator.The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy
20 Nov 2016 ~~ By Andrew Bernstein
Joseph McCarthy is the most unjustly demonized individual in American history.
In February 1950, McCarthy, a Republican senator from Wisconsin, launched a massive campaign against alleged Communists and Soviet agents working for, and perhaps spying on, the U.S. government. In Senate hearings stretching across much of the first half of the 1950s, he accused numerous U.S. government employees, including many in the State Department, of being Communists or even agents of Soviet Intelligence. He was bitterly opposed by powerful members of the Senate, by numerous high-ranking officials within both the Truman and Eisenhower administrations, and by the overwhelming preponderance of the press corps. He was finally censured by the U.S. Senate in December 1954 and died, possibly of effects of alcoholism, several years later. He was forty-eight.
The demonization's, then and now, involve charges that McCarthy lied, badgered, intimidated, victimized innocents, and fanned the flames of a massive anti-Communist hysteria. A typical account of his methods is provided by History.com’s “This Day in History,” which claims, “In widely publicized hearings, McCarthy bullied defendants under cross-examination with unlawful and damaging accusations, destroying the reputations of hundreds of innocent officials and citizens.” 1
The pejorative term “McCarthyism” was coined by his critics to denote “The practice of making accusations of disloyalty, especially of pro-Communist activity, in many instances unsupported by proof or based on slight, doubtful, or irrelevant evidence.”2
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Soviet Espionage Penetration of the U.S. Government
The Soviets targeted the Communists’ main ideological enemy, the capitalist United States, even during World War II, when the two nations were supposedly allied in a death struggle against fascism. Soviet agents achieved widespread penetration of the American government, spying, stealing secrets, ultimately supplying data enabling Stalin’s blood-drenched regime to develop an atomic weapon years earlier than otherwise.
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McCarthy’s Critics
Even today, some of McCarthy’s critics deny the extent, or even the existence, of Soviet espionage on the part of CPUSA members. But given the evidence now available, this position is impossible to uphold honestly. Evidence from numerous sources definitively establishes a massive Soviet espionage barrage, employing numerous CPUSA partisans, against the United States government.
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The Causes of McCarthy’s Demonization
Why, then, the endless denunciations of McCarthy and the widespread use of the epithet “McCarthyism” as a pejorative? There are several reasons.
One is that, as noted, the full data necessary to assess his cases was locked away in archives of both Cold War adversaries until at least the mid-1990s. It is only in the past twenty years that this information, a little at a time, has become accessible to researchers.
~Snip~
McCarthy’s major enemies are (for the most part) either supporters of communism or sympathetic to it, or, at the very least, unwilling to recognize its murderous totalitarian nature. This is the dirty little secret of the anti-McCarthy hysteria that continues to permeate both American history texts and contemporary journalistic references to him.
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Because of the dirty little secret mentioned above. American journalists and intellectuals have romanticized socialism—full socialism, real socialism—so much that they cannot bring themselves to see that communism is evil and that a man who exposed this evil within the U.S. government is a hero for having done so. They recognize and properly denounce the murderous totalitarianism of race-based socialism (National Socialism, aka Nazism)—but obdurately refuse to do so regarding the equivalent evils of class-based socialism (Communism). Instead, they are unrestrained in their vicious denunciations of the courageous man who typifies and symbolizes American opposition to this murderous creed.
Commentary:
Far from being an evil “witch Hunter” McCarthy was a Patriot and perhaps one of the 3 greatest Americans of the 20th century.
While 7 years old this article shows conclusively that communist agents had and were still actively infiltrating and working to destroy the USA from within. It names them and offers proof of his accusations mostly being accurate by documents that later surfaced such as the 'Venona Files'.
Note that the DSA Democrats (funded by CPUSA) are the first to accuse members of the GOP as Putin's allies.Venona Documents
www.nsa.gov
In my view, Joe McCarthy never needed vindication.
Just look at the fact that the former Director of the CIA John Brennan is an admitted Commie sympathizer.
CIA Director Reveals He Was Once a Communist Sympathizer
But Congress is being chill about it.nymag.com
Marchimedes
Platinum Member
I'm sorry if she has passed, I meant no disrespect on her specifically it's the usual generic Mother joke.
That presumes I've been knocked out so please to reword and use the correct King's English.
Been in many fights, never swung first and won every single last one with ease but then by my conservative estimate I've at least 5,000 hours getting busy on the heavy bag. That doesn't count all the work in the Dojo. Folks used to give me cash to teach them how to fight. I can describe how to throw a jab but then I'd be giving it away for free. Used to have an eyelet in my living room for my heavy bag that I used to take down to hang a swing for my children. I'm six(6) feet tall and 175 lbs. soaking wet but I'm 60 years old now and can no longer kick a 6'6" tall man in the skull in the skull with authority so I know my limitations. I'm still fast as fu(k and that is key cause mass times speed equals boom.
Any time you want to talk $h!t about fighting I'll be right here.
You sound like one of these snowflake warriors...
You gonna need a fu(kin bat that I'll take away from you and stuff up you azz if the other guy you have sneaking up behind me doesn't get me first but then one day a Father tried me with his Son sneaking up behind me and I sent them packing and bleeding.
Fu(k you and your thinly veiled threats of violence. I'm a man, I run towards the screaming.
Marchimedes
Platinum Member
Most every nation on God's Green Earth does the same to most every other nation. It's to be expected and guarded against.
What's your fu(kin point and what did you do and learn when YOU were in the military?
Wasn't Podesta's password 'password?" That's not so much hacking as it's 'logging on.'
I don't speak Jibberish but I do have an app for it...
Marchimedes
Platinum Member
He was a right-wing authoritarian thug who thought his path to glory and power was ginning up hate in America at those that didn't agree with his politics despite the 1st amendment.
The left wants to silence those that disagree with them "for the good of the nation."
McCarthy was no different.
"He that desires to silence debate has already lost the debate." - Machimedes circa not so long ago.
Let them speak so I can identify and get busy on them.
I've been called names today by both the left and the right. Like calling names debate makes.
"Strong is the level of retardation at this site." - Yoda circa a long time ago.
2016:
1. Why didn't the Russians want Hillary in power?
2. How did Putin help Trump?
3. Was it enough to change the outcome of the election?
2020:
1. Why didn't the Chinese want Trump in power?
2. How did they help Biden?
3. Was it enough to change the outcome of the election?
Please think before responding and enumerate your answers.
The Duke
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Not quite.
There's some things that are better left alone.
Rosie O'Donnell, for instance.
Marchimedes
Platinum Member
She's drunk, stupid, ugly and easy with war.
He didn't. He miscalculated.
Crap like that only matters to stupid liberals, so, all of them.
Tariffs that represent reality he wants a very tuff military.
The Yellow Menace gave us The Satan Bug while Trump was president.
Yes.
I refuse such demands as Rush Limbaugh told me what to think.
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