The US is on an "unsustainable" fiscal track, so how do we fix it? (Poll)

[struth]

You didn't answer - why all the tax cuts including corporate tax cuts?

what tax cuts?

 

[Dante]

Neither party is interested in doing anything.

Not true.

and any "summary of US finances including projections up to 2036" suggests things stay static

I remember well the 1980s/1990s and the web (www) explosion

AI is coming

 

[Dante]

Except we are not doing anything. We are borrowing about 30% of what we spend.

Try that at home and see how long it lasts.

Comparing running a nation to running a household budget?

Oh good lawd!


Have another drink -- on the House

 

[kyzr]

Single payer is a savings not an expense.
I dont like your version cuz you are focusing on taking away welfare and medical care for the poor. I appreciate the cap gains break and SS cap. Not sure I understand the transaction tax - seems like a tax on wealthy investors so I might be good with it.

1. Not taking anything away from the poor, just splitting the costs 50/50 state/Feds
2. The "transaction tax" is to stop computer traders, day traders, all high volume short term trades. Most people are stuck with "buy and hold" while the big shots play games. A transaction tax would make stocks more fair.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Neither party is interested in doing anything.

One party wants to eradicate 50 million parasites and their anchor baby spawn…One wants to stop funding a war in Ukraine, one wants to end government waste, one wants to shame degenerates into becoming productive citizens.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Comparing running a nation to running a household budget?

Oh good lawd!


Have another drink -- on the House

Many experts do the same thing. Take it up with them.

BTW: Thanks for showing how that is wrong. Oh, wait......well, I know you mean to post it but it just didn't take.

And those same experts seem more than a little concerned with the direction we are going.

My favorite: Cato

https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/case-federal-deficit-reduction-spending-cuts-avoid-fiscal-crisis

The United States is heading for a fiscal crisis, sooner or later, if it does not reduce its federal budget deficit to curb the growth of debt. Federal budget deficits are already high and set to rise further.

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And projected deficits are simply not realistic. We'll be in big trouble long before we hit some of the projections.

Now, what was your point ?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Not true.

It is true because if they were they'd stop running deficits.

 

[IM2]

hahaha…Your fake black ass has ZERO credibility here, you’re literally never right about anything.

Summary of the Latest Federal Income Tax Data, 2025 Update

New IRS data shows the US federal income tax system continues to be progressive as high-income taxpayers pay the highest average income tax rates. Average tax rates for all income groups remain lower after the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA).

taxfoundation.org

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I'm right about everything I said white man. So keep believing I'm not black.

 

[IM2]

One party wants to eradicate 50 million parasites and their anchor baby spawn…One wants to stop funding a war in Ukraine, one wants to end government waste, one wants to shame degenerates into becoming productive citizens.

One party finances the wealthy parasites that are the real drain on our economy. That would be the Republicans.

 

[there4eyeM]

Do what was done in the past; set a new standard for "wealth". The value of money was once based on a metal. In the latter part of the twentieth century, it was based upon G.D.P. Make life the basis (life being, after all, the only absolute upon which any "value" is based), and adjust the general population's share accordingly.

 

[IM2]

Do what was done in the past; set a new standard for "wealth". The value of money was once based on a metal. In the latter part of the twentieth century, it was based upon G.D.P. Make life the basis (life being, after all, the only absolute upon which any "value" is based), and adjust the general population's share accordingly.

America was losing even more money in the past due to racism. The policies that excluded everyone but whites cut off a whole lot of revenue.

 

[candycorn]

Will Republicans cut taxes and borrow more? Will the Freedom Caucus stand up and save the US from fiscal disaster?

Here is a good summary of US finances including projections up to 2036.

The Budget and Economic Outlook: 2025 to 2035

By the NumbersThe Budget Outlook, by Fiscal YearNotesSee Appendix B.

www.cbo.gov

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1. Focus on the total deficit, its not coming down fast enough to stop the DEBT from exploding.

2. I don't see "Tariffs" as a major source of revenue.

3. I don't see Welfare as a major expense, yet I know it is?

4. We need to phase non-Federal expenses back to the states. Welfare to work, 2-year max lifetime, Medicaid/Obamacare goes back to 50/50 Federal/State cost sharing.

You’re right about one thing, Tariffs are not a mjor source of revenue.

 

[candycorn]

Idiot. They cost us more than they contribute.

The Economic Impact of Illegal Immigration: Analyzing Costs and Benefits to the United States​

The economic impact of illegal immigration on the United States represents one of the most contentious aspects of the immigration debate. With approximately 10.9-15.5 million undocumented immigrants currently residing in the country, understanding the fiscal costs and benefits is essential for informed policy discussions. This report examines the evidence from multiple studies, exploring both the economic burden and contributions of illegal immigrants to the American economy.

Fiscal Costs of Illegal Immigration​

The direct fiscal costs of illegal immigration to American taxpayers have been estimated by several organizations, with significant variation in methodology and conclusions.

Direct Government Expenditures​

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) calculates that illegal immigration costs American taxpayers approximately $150.7 billion annually on a net basis3. Their analysis suggests that while illegal immigrants contribute roughly $32 billion in taxes, the gross costs reach approximately $182 billion, resulting in a cost burden of approximately $8,776 per illegal immigrant or citizen child3. According to this study, the majority of costs are borne at the state and local levels, with K-12 education representing the largest expense category at around $70 billion annually1.


Healthcare represents another significant expenditure. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that Medicaid spending on emergency services for illegal immigrants has exceeded $16.2 billion under the current administration, representing a 124% increase compared to the previous administration11.

Long-Term Fiscal Impact​

Beyond annual costs, several studies have attempted to quantify the lifetime fiscal impact of illegal immigrants:


The Manhattan Institute estimates that the recent border surge will cost approximately $1.15 trillion over the lifetime of these illegal immigrants, with the average undocumented immigrant imposing a net fiscal burden of about $130,00056. Their analysis suggests that immigrants without a high school diploma who arrive between ages 18-24 can receive up to $332,000 in taxpayer-provided benefits over their lifetime6.


A House Oversight and Accountability Committee testimony estimated the lifetime fiscal drain for each illegal immigrant at approximately $68,000, though this estimate carries several caveats10. The Heritage Foundation calculated that if amnesty were implemented, the average adult unlawful immigrant would receive $592,000 more in government benefits over their remaining lifetime than they would pay in taxes9.

$592,000... really.

So as a “legal” person...how many government benefits do you receive?

 

[IM2]

$592,000... really.

So as a “legal” person...how many government benefits do you receive?

That study is full of the far-right anti-immigration all stars.

CIS, FAIR, The Manhattan Institute, the Heritage Foundation. LOL! And we are supposed take what they say as absolute fact. LOL!

 

[leftwinger]

Suck on it Utah Mac&Cheese dic:
New findings, Items that you are OK with and WANT to continue.
Medicare is being stolen to collapse it. Deep State mission to get rich and kill the country.
Then rebuild County into Communism or 100% Socialism (after hiding all their theft).
Trump is for the people, our last real chance to clean it up and stop collapse.
After the USAID debacle you deep state loons should be somewhat ashamed. But you are incapable of rational thought.
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• $1 billion in Medicare funds went to individuals fraudulently registered in multiple states.
• $200 million spent on housekeeping services, unrelated to Medicaid’s core mission.
• $10 million diverted to student loan repayments, robbing funds from life-saving treatments like gene therapy for sickle cell anemia.
• $14 million squandered on DEI initiatives and labor union childcare benefits.
• 250,000 ineligible individuals registered in the marketplace, siphoning resources.

Oz emphasized these findings aren’t rounding errors — they’re the result of deliberate, organized criminal activity, sometimes even tied to foreign adversaries.

“The $31 million that I know of last week is a great example. We stopped that money — using new technology, modernizing how Medicare and Medicaid work — from even leaving the building because we knew something was fishy about the bills,” said Dr. Oz.

“These aren’t just small mistakes. These are organized criminal efforts to hurt our country, some launched by foreign countries. These are serious issues we are digging into — and that’s why we have this war room.”

 

[leftwinger]

Finally found Care4all and candycorn two of the biggest idiots on the planet.



Do you two bean brained stooges really need attention this badly?
I know nobody has had the will or the guts to "service" either one of you over many decades but really?

 

[leftwinger]

Just the easy stuff to date. Top level FRAUD (in a few DEPTS) and Trans period cycle studies halted.
Suck it up Stain:

 

[Care4all]

Suck on it Utah Mac&Cheese dic:
New findings, Items that you are OK with and WANT to continue.
Medicare is being stolen to collapse it. Deep State mission to get rich and kill the country.
Then rebuild County into Communism or 100% Socialism (after hiding all their theft).
Trump is for the people, our last real chance to clean it up and stop collapse.
After the USAID debacle you deep state loons should be somewhat ashamed. But you are incapable of rational thought.
***********************************

• $1 billion in Medicare funds went to individuals fraudulently registered in multiple states.
• $200 million spent on housekeeping services, unrelated to Medicaid’s core mission.
• $10 million diverted to student loan repayments, robbing funds from life-saving treatments like gene therapy for sickle cell anemia.
• $14 million squandered on DEI initiatives and labor union childcare benefits.
• 250,000 ineligible individuals registered in the marketplace, siphoning resources.

Oz emphasized these findings aren’t rounding errors — they’re the result of deliberate, organized criminal activity, sometimes even tied to foreign adversaries.

“The $31 million that I know of last week is a great example. We stopped that money — using new technology, modernizing how Medicare and Medicaid work — from even leaving the building because we knew something was fishy about the bills,” said Dr. Oz.

“These aren’t just small mistakes. These are organized criminal efforts to hurt our country, some launched by foreign countries. These are serious issues we are digging into — and that’s why we have this war room.”

Have there been any arrests for this alleged organized criminal activity or is that term being used liberally?

 

[kyzr]

Just the easy stuff to date. Top level FRAUD (in a few DEPTS) and Trans period cycle studies halted.
Suck it up Stain:
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My DOGE clock only has $160b

Got a link for that $359b?

 

[leftwinger]

My DOGE clock only has $160b

Got a link for that $359b?

https://www.usdebtclock.org/