The US could Save $5.6B a year if it Switched from Coal to Solar – study

[skookerasbil]

If this thread was a newspaper story today in a 100 page newspaper, it would be on page 98!!
Just in front of the story on the National Navel Gazing Championships!

 

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Slight regional cooling at the panels, slight regional warming at point of use.
If that's your evidence for a new ice age from solar power, you came up short again.

So happy that you finally acknowledged the cooling effect of solar farms.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So happy that you finally acknowledged the cooling effect of solar farms.

Tell me again how lower albedo ends up cooling the planet.

You'll get a Nobel Prize for sure!!!

 

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Tell me again how lower albedo ends up cooling the planet.

You'll get a Nobel Prize for sure!!!

cooling at the panels

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Net.

So much for your Nobel.

 

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regional cooling

Agreed

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Agreed

Yup.
Lower albedo is the best way to cause the glaciers to advance.

 

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Yup.
Lower albedo is the best way to cause the glaciers to advance.

If lower albedo was the dominant factor there wouldn't be regional cooling at the solar farms, dummy.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If lower albedo was the dominant factor there wouldn't be regional cooling at the solar farms, dummy.

Why does lower albedo at the farms cause the globe to cool?
Explain it from an engineer's viewpoint.

 

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Why does lower albedo at the farms cause the globe to cool?
Explain it from an engineer's viewpoint.

I have already many times, what did I tell you? What does the paper say?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I have already many times, what did I tell you? What does the paper say?

If you have a paper showing that lower albedo cools the globe, post it.
If you have a paper showing that using solar power cools the globe, post it.

 

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If you have a paper showing that lower albedo cools the globe, post it.
If you have a paper showing that using solar power cools the globe, post it.

You have already agreed with me. Game over.

regional cooling at the panels

 

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Solar panels change the way sunlight is reflected and absorbed by the Earth. Any radiation they take in is radiation that's not being absorbed by the Earth. This leads to a cooling effect in the region surrounding the array.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/11/02/surprising-study-finds-that-solar-energy-can-also-cause-climate-change-a-little/

 

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We find that solar panels alone induce regional cooling by converting incoming solar energy to electricity in comparison to the climate without solar panels.

Impact of solar panels on global climate

This study considers how large-scale application of solar panels will affect climate. Electricity generation leads to regional cooling but this is countered by the power's use, affecting global circulation patterns with changes in regional rainfall.

ui.adsabs.harvard.edu

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You have already agreed with me. Game over.

I agree, you don't have a paper showing that lower albedo cools the globe.
I agree, you don't have a paper showing that using solar power cools the globe.

 

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I agree, you don't have a paper showing that lower albedo cools the globe.
I agree, you don't have a paper showing that using solar power cools the globe.

You already agreed solar farms cause regional cooling at the farms, dummy.

See?

regional cooling at the panels

You lose.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Solar panels change the way sunlight is reflected and absorbed by the Earth. Any radiation they take in is radiation that's not being absorbed by the Earth. This leads to a cooling effect in the region surrounding the array.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/11/02/surprising-study-finds-that-solar-energy-can-also-cause-climate-change-a-little/

Solar panels change the way sunlight is reflected and absorbed by the Earth.

Any radiation they don't reflect back to space is absorbed by the Earth.
This leads to a global warming effect.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You already agreed solar farms cause regional cooling at the farms, dummy.

See?

You lose.

regional cooling at the farms

Still don't know what global means? LOL!

 

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Solar panels change the way sunlight is reflected and absorbed by the Earth.

Any radiation they don't reflect back to space is absorbed by the Earth.
This leads to a global warming effect.

You are arguing against yourself which is pretty dang funny.

regional cooling at the panels

 

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regional cooling at the farms

Still don't know what global means? LOL!

It's called extrapolation.